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Channel log from 3 November 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<roshan08>
i have just now installed KIWI
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how to add clients
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i am able to boot the client but i have not set any username or password how to do that
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<Ryan52>
roshan08: it's just your servers username and password.
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roshan08: once people log in to the client, they are really on the server.
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so just add users on your server as you normally would.
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<roshan08>
Ryan52: ok it means simply adding normal users to the server computer
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<Ryan52>
yes
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<roshan08>
Ryan52: ok i thought they were some other users
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Ryan52: thanks
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<Ryan52>
no problem :)
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<alkisg>
Intrepid changed the default panel icons (e.g. added fusa). To reset all user panels to the defalts, I delete .gconf/apps/panel, i.e. (IFS=$'\n'; for f in $(ls /home); do rm -rf "/home/$f/.gconf/apps/panel/"; done). Is this a proper way to do it?
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<kwak>
hi, im installing xubuntu/ltsp and I get installation step on build ltsp chroot.
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any suggestions on what to do?
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<Ryan52>
kwak: can you rephrase that?
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<kwak>
i mean installation step problem
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the step is build ltsp chroot
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<Ryan52>
okay, what is the problem?
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<kwak>
it says building ltsp chroot, it reaches 50% then i get the the screen with red background (error)
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<kwak>
can i try doing that step later on and just proceed with grub installation? i don't why ltsp chroot installation fails
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<Ryan52>
you might be able to do "ctrl-alt-f4" and see more errors.
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<kwak>
ok,
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errors
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<Ryan52>
and those errors would be what?
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<kwak>
/opt/lts/i386 already exists
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WARNING:: Configuring 'ltsp-client-builder' failed with error code 1
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main-menu WARNING: menu item 'lts-client-builder; failed
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<Ryan52>
that's probably because you've choosen the retry already. can you scroll up and see other errors?
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<kwak>
DEBUG: Resolver (libnewt0.52): package doesn't exists (ignore) and also efi-modules
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<Ryan52>
hrm. I'm not sure then.
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if it lets you then you can just skip setting up the chroot and build it later.
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<kwak>
k
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trying
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grub installation successful. restarting now
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<Ryan52>
then once you boot up you'll want to delete /opt/ltsp/i386 and run ltsp-build-client
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<Appiah>
Does anyone have a good solution for setting the same startpage(Firefox) for all users? and lock it? Dont think you can do it with gconf
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<Appiah>
oh nevermind , firefox.txt ;)
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<Appiah>
.cfg*
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<kwak__>
what does this mean.
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ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid.,,, does not exist. Dropping to shell!
03:20
my installation still not booting
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<Ryan52>
is that from the client or from the server?
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either way, it's probably a question for #ubuntu...you've got something messed up.
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<kwak__>
from the server. i was in initramfs prompt then issued "return" command. then the login screen came up
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ltsp chroot is still not functiong. tying to build
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<generalsnus>
using edubuntu 8.10 ltsp server, when thin clients boots, they halt at this message: ltsp disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done
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<generalsnus>
using edubuntu 8.10 ltsp server, when thin clients boots, the booting stops at this message: "ltsp disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done" whats wrong?
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<generalsnus>
using edubuntu 8.10 ltsp server, when thin clients boots, the booting stops at this message: "ltsp disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done" whats wrong?
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<Davor>
Does anybody know how to run LTSP (x session) without ssh tunneling to increase performance/speed(Ubuntu 7.04)?
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<kwak_>
someone in this list suggested to add LDM_DIRECTX=T in lts.conf to solve that.
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<Appiah>
True
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<Davor>
But that wot
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<Appiah>
it works
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The login will still be tunneld (secured)
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<Davor>
But that setting works only with the latest LDM (Ububtu 8.04)
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<Appiah>
naa
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Where does it say that?
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<kwak_>
ic
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<Nubae>
works since 7.10 I believe
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and the latest LDM is Intrepid, not Hardy
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<Appiah>
I'm sure it works Davor
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<Davor>
OK if I change my lts.cong with LDM_DIRECTX=True do I need to run ltsp-update-kernels or something else?
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<Appiah>
depends on where you put it
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<Appiah>
if its LTSP 5.0 you dont need to update
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just reboot the client
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/var/lib/tfptboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf (for LTSP 5.0)
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<Davor>
there is no lts.conf in /var/lib/tfptboot/ltsp/i386/ . I changed /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf but avi files are still streaming through ssh (this however works well on 8.04)
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<Appiah>
there is no lts.conf per default
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<Nubae>
make the lts.conf
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<Appiah>
an easy way to see if its going thru SSH or not is to open up a terminal and do echo $DISPLAY
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it should say <ipnr> instead of localhost:11
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[Default]
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LDM_DIRECT=True
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thats enough
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<Davor>
Sorry, it does not work. You can check www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf#LDM_DIRECTX
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<Appiah>
check it for what?
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<updates>
question: Will ltsp server work without GUI installed?
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<Nubae>
updates: no
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<Appiah>
What would be the point then updates ?
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I mean what are you planing to use?
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<Davor>
Output is "localhost:10.0". If I look at /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz, there is no LDM_DIRECTX option at all. sshd is still taking over 30% of CPU. Once again, LDM_DIRECTX=True is working fine on 8.04, but we need to test 7.04 because end-user needs it.
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<Nubae>
why are u using 7.04?
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thats totally unsupported
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not even LTS
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<updates>
Appiah, thanks. sorry for the late reply. i have to go home. talk to you later when i get home. thanks!
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<Nubae>
currently supported are 6.06 (for a couple months more), 8.04, and 8.10
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<Davor>
I understand, but end-user is educational institution and we expect over 4000 thin-client deployments (20-30 per class)
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End-user does not want to upgrade Edubumtu
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<Nubae>
then u should definetly NOT be using 7.04
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they do realise, that means no security update
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u should be using 8.04 which is LTS and supported until 2013
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<Davor>
Unfortunately I can not change their decision
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<Nubae>
well I'm quite sure 7.04 had directx=True as well, but like I said, it being unsuppored, you'll find difficulty getting help
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<Davor>
I'll check once again, I'll reinstall everything from the scratch if I need to, your information is usefull anyway. I'll also talk to decision making guys and tell them what you suggested since I noticed several bugs as well.
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<Nubae>
yeah running 7.04 is asking for trouble
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a hackers paradise
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might as well be running windows :-)
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<ogra>
Davor, 7.04 is EOL since some weeks
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no security support or upgrades
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<Nubae>
ogra: did directx=true work for 7.04?
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<ogra>
no
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<Nubae>
when did it come in 7.10?
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<ogra>
and there is no easy way to make it work apart from rewriting half the code
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iirc 7.10, yes
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<Nubae>
well, as both of us just told him, he shouldnt be running that :-)
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<ogra>
but 7.10 will only get security support for another 6 months
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i'd go with 8.04 or 8.10 for production if building up something fresh
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<Nubae>
yeah, don't quite get the logic behind, they dont want to upgrade...
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<ogra>
well, if Davor wants to take responsibility for something insecure, up to him
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<Nubae>
yeah, people can run warty if they like too :p
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<ogra>
i wouldnt base a business on it :) but yes, people can
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<Nubae>
ogra: u gonna be at the edubuntu meeting Wednesday?
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<ogra>
not sure
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<Nubae>
will RichEd be there u think?
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<ogra>
no idea
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i havent seen him for a while
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<Blinny>
Hrm. I have one user that cannot login. His username changed while being logged into a thin terminal. All others (who weren't logged in when the script changed usernames) work fine. Where should I start looking? Permissions in his home look OK with the new username. /tmp files look OK too (though I have rebooted the server)
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<alkisg>
Blinny, any messages if you try ssh -l username from the TC console?
06:52
Has anyone used an (e.g. cisco) router instead of the dhcp3-server package? I got it working just fine, but it doesn't send dynamic dns updates to my dns server. Are router supposed to do that, or their dhcp server ...sucks?
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<Blinny>
alkisg: Thanks - Let me check
06:55
alkisg: No errors, logged in just fine
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<alkisg>
Blinny, did you chown -R username:group /home/userdir? Maybe some file in some subdirectory doens't have the right permissions...
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<Blinny>
alkisg: Yes.
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alkisg: Though I should mention that the uid didn't change, just the name
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So theoretically, none of the file permissions changed either. But yes, I did a chown -R user:group /home/user
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<alkisg>
Blinny, I can't think of anything else, wait for someone more experienced! :)
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(log files etc)
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<Blinny>
Dig. Thanks anyway.
07:00
This whole .gtk-bookmarks thing is dumb way of storing the Places links
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I need to suggest a better way.
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<alkisg>
Blinny, why don't you try usermod -l newname oldname two more times? (one to change it to a fake one, one to restore it to the real one)
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(But I did several times change the username of students while they where logged in, and I never got this problem...) :(
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<Blinny>
Good idea, thank you.
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<Gadi>
!s
08:35
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:35
<sbalneav>
Hey Gadi!
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<Gadi>
has ragnar been in the channel recently?
08:36
<sbalneav>
I just got here, dunno.
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<Gadi>
!seen laprag
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<ltspbot>
Gadi: laprag was last seen in #ltsp 2 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 58 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <laprag> enough hacking tonight. good night all.
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<sbalneav>
Wasn't in on Saturday when I was here
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<Gadi>
!seen mistik1
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<ltspbot>
Gadi: mistik1 was last seen in #ltsp 2 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <mistik1> take care Jim
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<Gadi>
*sigh*
08:36
everybody's on a 2 week vacation ;)
08:37
<sbalneav>
Gadi: So, I came up with a fix for the X server race condition that Warren identified on friday.
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<Gadi>
catch me up a bit
08:37
I dunno how much I was paying attention
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:)
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<stgraber>
moin sbalneav
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<sbalneav>
Well, we have a problem sometimes, on slow machines, where we spawn off the X server, then start issuing commands to it.
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<stgraber>
hi Gadi
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<Gadi>
hola, stgraber
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<sbalneav>
Meanwhile, it hasn't even got it's input channels plumbed yet
08:38
hey stgraber
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<Gadi>
ah - so what symptoms do you see?
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unresponsive keyboard?
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<sbalneav>
So, th the proper solution is to set SIGUSR1 to SIG_IGN before we spawn off the X server.
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This tells the X server that, once it's got it's act together, and is ready to serve clients, it'll send a SIGUSR1 to the parent process
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which is ldm
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<Gadi>
ah
08:40* Gadi likes simple fixes
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<sbalneav>
So, we just wait for that signal, via the sigsuspend() call
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When we get it, then, we've got a functioning X server, no race.
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<Gadi>
brilliant work, professor
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:)
08:42
now, if you could only get the coconut radio going - we could get off this island
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<ltsppbot>
"sbalneav" pasted "Fix X race condition." (165 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/88
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<gate_keeper_>
how to disable pulse audio in X11 for ltsp?
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: SOUND=false?
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<gate_keeper_>
hmm
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i'm having problems with X11
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<warren>
sbalneav: how well tested?
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<gate_keeper_>
huge lo on X11
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*traffic
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<sbalneav>
Tested on two terminals at home :)
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Worked there.
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<gate_keeper_>
ubuntu server by default does not install pulse audio
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as far i can see, ltsp is configured to call pulse audio :-/
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/etc/X11
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: You've been here before with this. Have you Identified what's actually GENERATING the traffic, via wireshark or something?
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<Gadi>
sbalneav: and the devnull redirects fix Xsession -right?
08:47
no more killing
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:D
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<gate_keeper_>
yes, we've talked for this
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<sbalneav>
Gadi: Yup, that eliminates the need for the kill -1.
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<Gadi>
\o/
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<sbalneav>
Plus, TONS of processes that used to hang around before now exit.
08:48
That part I have tested.
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<Gadi>
and now the K* scripts work?
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<Blinny>
Yea!!
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<sbalneav>
I've backported the /dev/null bits to hardy, works a treat.
08:48* Blinny applauds loudly
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<gate_keeper_>
http://pastebin.com/d581de38d
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: ...aaaaaaand? What's generating the traffic? Pulse audio for sure? or you're just guessing
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<gate_keeper_>
guessing
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<warren>
how does the /dev/null fix work?
08:49
ssh held open because of stdin or stdout?
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<sbalneav>
localhost:ldap localhost:41233 ESTABLISHED openldap 128789 19000/slapd
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You running openldap?
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<gate_keeper_>
yes, with or without ldap
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it's the same
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<sbalneav>
warren: correct
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<gate_keeper_>
http://pastebin.com/d78072ab4
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: have you run wireshark on lo to see what's generating the traffic?
08:50
<gate_keeper_>
just using iptraf
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and standard in-out net tools
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<sbalneav>
A huge chunk of those connections are ldap.
08:51
<gate_keeper_>
i've made auth for the users via ldap
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<sbalneav>
Using openldap for your passwd and group lookups?
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<gate_keeper_>
localhost:50017 localhost:6027 ESTABLISHED
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most of the traffic on lo is happing on X11 ports
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6011-6047
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tcp 0 0 localhost:6011 localhost:36407 ESTABLISHED
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<warren>
sbalneav: are you committing both /dev/null and the X race fix at the same time?
08:52
sbalneav: probably best to have people test them independently
08:52
<sbalneav>
I haven't committed anything.
08:52
I don't touch -trunk
08:52
I leave that to others.
08:53
I'll update my branch today.
08:53
<Gadi>
sbalneav: of all people, I would want you to touch ldm-trunk most :)
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but not in a creepy kind of way
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: can you paste your lts.conf file, and your /etc/nsswitch.conf file?
08:54* sbalneav offers ldm-trunk some candy from the back of his van.
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<gate_keeper_>
sbalneav, fresh install
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without openldap
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http://pastebin.com/d7d32e7ee
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lts.conf is empty afaik in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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<sbalneav>
Oh, well if lts.conf is empty, no LDM_DIRECTX=true
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<gate_keeper_>
8.10 ubuntu-server
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ltsp 5.1
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<sbalneav>
then all the traffic on lo's the encrypted X going though ssh
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X talks to the ssh session, which encrypts the X traffic.
08:58
that'll happen over lo
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<gate_keeper_>
hm..
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:-/
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<sbalneav>
gate_keeper_: Should be /var/lib/tftboot/ltsp/i386 anyway for lts.conf
09:00
gate_keeper_: Do you want your X to be encrypted?
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<gate_keeper_>
whatever, what's best ..
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<sbalneav>
Dude.
09:01
That's up to you.
09:01
You want encrypted X, then leave it as it us.
09:02
as it is, sorry
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<gate_keeper_>
encrypted :)
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<sbalneav>
if you want your X faster, but unencrypted, then set LDM_DIRECTX=true
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Then you're going to have a lot of traffic on lo.
09:02
there's your answer.
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<gate_keeper_>
btw in /var/lib.... there's no lts.conf
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<sbalneav>
right
09:03
there isn't, be default
09:03
<ogra>
create one
09:03
<sbalneav>
s/be/by/
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<sbalneav>
he wants his X encrypted. He can just leave it as-is.
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<gate_keeper_>
k,thx
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<sbalneav>
morning Ogra!
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<ogra>
as described in the documentation
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!docs
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<ltspbot>
ogra: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<sbalneav>
ogra: http://pastebot.ltsp.org/88
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Fixed the race.
09:04
<ogra>
where's the bot ?
09:04
!docs
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<ltspbot>
ogra: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<sbalneav>
showing up for me
09:05
I see the docs factoid
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<gate_keeper_>
ok, added
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09:22
<sbalneav>
So, I've been trying to find a worthy recipient of a bunch of our old Via EPIA 5000 mobo's
09:22
<chrisinajar>
me
09:22
<sbalneav>
Turns out the local university's robotics lab uses them.
09:22
So, I'm donating 50 of them, in exchange for a tour :)
09:23
So, tomorrow afternoon, I'm gonna go see robots :)
09:23
chrisinajar: I can drive 'em to the robotcs lab, where are you?
09:24
<ogra>
hey sbalneav (sorry, was in a conf call)
09:24
<sbalneav>
NP
09:24
<ogra>
sbalneav, really they use slow VIA ? not arm ?
09:25
<sbalneav>
Dunno, guess they use what they can get their hands on :)
09:25
<ogra>
heh
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09:38
<gate_keeper_>
guys, it's working
09:38
thx
09:38
:)
09:39
<sbalneav>
You went with LDM_DIRECTX?
09:39
<gate_keeper_>
yup
09:40
<sbalneav>
Problem solved.
09:42
<gate_keeper_>
yup
09:42
thanks a lot!
09:42
<Gadi>
another LDM_DIRECTX success story
09:42
<sbalneav>
NP
09:42
<gate_keeper_>
:)
09:42
<sbalneav>
Oh!
09:42
ohohoho!
09:42
ogra: See the updates today?
09:42
They fixed the gvfs-fuse hanging thingy
09:43
So, if we can push out the /dev/null thingy, that should eliminate most of the hung jobs issues.
09:44
stgraber: Lets you and I sit down this hackyfest, and coordinate with ogra, and get SRU's for a couple of these bugs I've sqwashed, and get 'em in the queue.
09:45
I think that'll make a lot of Hardy users happy
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09:55
<gate_keeper_>
laters..
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09:59
<Gadi>
sbalneav: what cipher do we default to for ssh?
09:59
in ldm
09:59
tell me it aint 3des
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10:04
<stgraber>
sbalneav: sounds good
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10:13
<warren>
what is the plan for hte hackfest? arrive 6th?
10:13
depart 9th?
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10:19
<sbalneav>
Gadi: Not sure.
10:20
I think it just defaults to whatever ssh defaults to
10:23
warren: I think so
10:24
<warren>
does anyone need a ride to/from Boston?
10:24* Gadi asks the same thing - s/Boston/NY/
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10:25
<sbalneav>
Gadi: Are you brining Mistik?
10:26
<Gadi>
if I can find him to twist his arm
10:26
but-
10:26
!seen mistik1
10:26
<ltspbot>
Gadi: mistik1 was last seen in #ltsp 2 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 34 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <mistik1> take care Jim
10:26
<sbalneav>
Gadi: looks like we don't have any ssh options other than OVERRIDE_PORT
10:26* Gadi has no reggae CDs of his own :(
10:27
<Gadi>
sbalneav: yeah, saw that
10:27
<sbalneav>
Suggestions for a generic SSH option varaible that we can use to pass any custom ssh commands to the session?
10:27
<Gadi>
also saw that default = 3des for protocol1 and aes128-cbc for 2
10:27
LDM_SSH_OPTIONS
10:27
<sbalneav>
LDM_SSH_OPTIONS or just SSH_OPTIONS
10:27
<Gadi>
;)
10:27
no - needs LDM
10:28
<sbalneav>
okie
10:28
easy to add.
10:28
<Gadi>
I like knowing that all LDM_ params affect only the ldm session
10:28
<sbalneav>
Sure, makes sense.
10:28
<Gadi>
at some point, I would like to explore passing LDM_ options via ldminfod
10:28
or some such
10:29
<warren>
i'm not sure that's a good idea
10:29
easily interceptable unencrypted directive to run with arbitrary parameters?
10:29
<Gadi>
ie, having the LDM config being controlled by the app server and not by the boot server
10:29
warren: ah, good point
10:29
maybe if we integrate stgraber's cluster stuff
10:29
we can get some config info via https
10:30
<chrisinajar>
warren: what's hackfest?
10:30
<Gadi>
prior to session launch
10:30
<warren>
chrisinajar: sounds sinister huh?
10:30
<chrisinajar>
warren: hackfest == ltsp bts?
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10:30
<Gadi>
chrisinajar: yes
10:30
<chrisinajar>
ok
10:30
I'll be there :)
10:30
<Gadi>
well, in the fall ;)
10:31
I should say: this hackfest == ltsp bts
10:31
but not all hackfests are ltsp bts
10:31
<chrisinajar>
ok, that makes sense..
10:31
<Gadi>
anyone ready for the LSAT? :P
10:32
<chrisinajar>
so what exactly is hackfest? I haven't heard of it before, but I'm going to LTSP bts
10:32
<ogra>
LSAT ? new TV transmission system ?
10:32
<Gadi>
ogra: standardized test for Law school in the US - lots of logic problems
10:32
:)
10:32
<ogra>
heh
10:33
<pscheie>
warren, do we have any sort of autologin on K12?
10:33
<chrisinajar>
google: Did you mean hawkfest?
10:33
<warren>
pscheie: LDM itself has autologin things, but I have no clue how it works
10:33
<chrisinajar>
no google, no i did not
10:34
<ogra>
chrisinajar, at the hackfests we usually focus on developing new features ... the BTS is additionally a traditional thing to get together loosely and socialize
10:34
<pscheie>
even if it's possible at this time, I don't think it's documented anywhere
10:34
<warren>
sbalneav: IIRC there's no whiteboard at that motel right?
10:34
<chrisinajar>
ogra: oh, that's cool, well looking at the registration there aren't very many people going to bts, are the hackfest people not included in this registration?
10:34
<pscheie>
bring a chalkboard
10:35
<sbalneav>
warren: Last time McQuillan brought a blank paper flipchart
10:35
Want me to ask him to bring it again?
10:35
<Gadi>
if I remember, I will throw a whiteboard in my trunk
10:36
but, I prolly won't remember
10:36
and it may not fit
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<Gadi>
sbalneav: is Jim gonna still bring a shuttle box?
10:38
<warren>
i'm bringing a few laptops to act as thin clients
10:38
<sbalneav>
Gadi: not sure.
10:38
I'll ask him today.
10:43
<chrisinajar>
so how many people do you think will be at bts/hackfest?
10:50
<stgraber>
we'll bring a server with ltsp-cluster on it and at least two netbooks (Atom based) as thin clients (and probably some networking too, depending on what we can put in the car)
10:52
(the server is installed as an openvz host, so if someone bring a network card we'll be able to run more than one LTSP network on it)
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
maybe a post on the wiki ... hardware your bringing / hardware you'd like brought?
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<pscheie>
is anyone bringing switches to tie this all together?
10:57
<CAN-o-SPAM>
DisklessWorkstations can bring some thin clients, if anyone is interested ...
10:58
<chrisinajar>
how is the conference aranged? like, would i want to bring a laptop or would it be acceptable to bring a workstation?
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10:59
<jammcq>
Goood morning LTSP
10:59
<sbalneav>
jammcq says yes to the switch, no to the whiteboard, and no to the shuttle.
11:00
<brendan0powers>
i could bring a whiteboard or two
11:01
there not that big, but fine for colaborative doodling
11:02
<jammcq>
I think a whiteboard would be great to have
11:02
<sbalneav>
chrisinajar: I think you're welcome to bring whatever the heck you can carry :)
11:02
<jammcq>
somewhere, I've got a flipchart easle type thinggy, but dunno where it is
11:03
<chrisinajar>
sbalneav: well, i've never been to one of these (me and brendan are going together) so i don't really know physically how it's aranged
11:03
i believe we have 2 pretty small whiteboards... like, 3 feet by 4 feet...
11:05
<Gadi>
42" plasma?
11:05
anybody?
11:05
makes a great whiteboard
11:05
<chrisinajar>
got one of those too :-P
11:05
<Gadi>
cool - I'll bring the dry-erase markers ;)
11:05
<sbalneav>
chrisinajar: LTSP hackfests don't tend to be highly structured affairs. We just all bring some hardware, usually talk for a bit about whatever happens to be the burning issue/problem/feature/s we'd like to work on, then just hack.
11:06
Y'know, the way a hackfest SHOULD be.
11:06
<Gadi>
don't worry - I'll have an agenda
11:06
:)
11:06
and alcohol
11:06
<chrisinajar>
sbalneav: that's cool. I work at a place that has an ltsp-ish solution and as of late we've been trying to get more into the community...
11:07
<sbalneav>
I've got 3 things I'd like to work on:
11:07
<chrisinajar>
bbl
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11:07
<pscheie>
I think someone should hack together one of Johnny Chung Lee's wiimote-whiteboard markers
11:07
<sbalneav>
1) pushing recent bugfixes, and identifying any other burning bugs that need my attention
11:08
2) more doco cleanup
11:08
3) finishing up on Gadi's suggestion of moving X startup outside of LDM to the screen script.
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<Gadi>
sbalneav: *cough* wiki *cough* http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
11:08* sbalneav hands gadi some cough syrup
11:09
<Gadi>
man, thanks
11:09
that's gettin nasty
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11:13
<Nubae>
so its totally US and Canada centric :-)
11:13
<ogra>
yeah
11:13
evil them
11:13
<Nubae>
heh
11:13
<jammcq>
hey, we've got a norwegian coming
11:13
that counts for something
11:13
<ogra>
pseudo nrwegian
11:14
or did he move ?
11:14
<jammcq>
he's living in Oslo. how norwegian does he need to be?
11:14
<sbalneav>
Gadi: That make you happy? :)
11:14
<ogra>
i thought he lived in the US now
11:14
<jammcq>
he does alot of business in the US, but his home base is still the other side of the pond
11:14
<Nubae>
well I was just reading the coming from part
11:15
<pscheie>
ogra, are you coming?
11:15
<ogra>
pscheie, sadly not
11:15
<pscheie>
bummer
11:15
<ogra>
the first one i'm not attending since 3 years :(
11:16
<Nubae>
who's the Norwegian?
11:16
<Gadi>
sbalneav: it is beautiful - but here in the US, we "impact" we don't "inpact"
11:16
:)
11:16
<jammcq>
Nubae: Ragnar Wisloff
11:16
<ogra>
Nubae, ragnar
11:17
<Nubae>
ah
11:17
<sbalneav>
It's impact in Canada as well. That's just my bad sppeling
11:18
Gadi: Fixeed
11:18* jammcq wonders if there'll be a hurricane again this year
11:19* sbalneav hopes so.
11:19
<jammcq>
be careful what you wish for
11:19
<sbalneav>
cliebow promised me one.
11:19
jammcq: We BOTH loved the hurricane last year :)
11:20
What's the temp down there looking like? Anyone looked already to save me the google? Should I brink parka + snowboots?
11:21
<jammcq>
sbalneav: yeah, but this summer we had what seemed like a tornado in our town. not sure i'd like to see the full wrath of mother nature
11:21
forcast for SWHarbor calls for rain and 58F from thursday through sunday
11:21
<ogra>
it was beautiful
11:22
<jammcq>
dunno about snow boots, but a parka might be good for those long walks on the beach
11:23
<sbalneav>
58? I'll just bring sweaters & raingear then. Layering should handle that if it's gonna be above zero.
11:24
<jammcq>
k
11:24
<sbalneav>
0C that is.
11:29
<warren>
how many people are going?
11:29
do we have a website to point at?
11:29
with details
11:29
<sbalneav>
Gadi: So, I've been doing some investigating, and it turns out that the xinit command actually does the waitfor SIGUSR1. So, I'm thinking, if we're going to start X from outside LDM, instead of calling X directly, we should go through the xinit command, and start ldm as the client that gets started up after X.
11:29
!bts
11:29
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "bts" is LTSP By The Sea 2008: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
11:30
<sbalneav>
warren: That should have it.
11:30
<warren>
sbalneav: I think we should use the waitfor SIGUSR1 ourselves, everything else like gdm or rhgb does it themselves
11:31
<sbalneav>
warren: Only problem with that is, I'm not sure if we can do that from within the shell
11:32
Gadi wanted to move the starting of X outside of LDM to the screen script
11:32
<warren>
sbalneav: we could build a small C binary
11:32
<sbalneav>
certainly, within the shell, we can trap SIGUSR1, but I'm not shu...
11:32
yeah, I was just going to suggest that.
11:32
heh
11:32
<warren>
sbalneav: ideally we want a binary to run and monitor X so we can cleanly handle cleanup
11:33
it can detect more than just SIGUSR1 of "i'm ready"
11:33
also early death
11:33
etc.
11:33
<Gadi>
sbalneav: yeah, calling thru xinit was my plan
11:33
<sbalneav>
Well, really, what we want from LDM is to actually make it X aware.
11:33
So, have it do an XOpenDisplay, and monitor X events.
11:34
That way, if X disappears, we'll see that, and can do the cleanup.
11:34
Let's hash it out in Bah Hahbah
11:35
I'll add some notes to the wikikiki
11:36
<Gadi>
sbalneav: plus, if we call through xinit, we can add a special xinitrc.d/ directory that can be common with other screen scripts to support non-LDM-specific init scripts
11:37
which can be useful for more proper support of rdesktop and other screen scripts
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11:37
<warren>
as we discussed in thie last hackfest
11:37
<Gadi>
warren: correcto
11:38
<sbalneav>
Sounds like xinit's looking to be the way to go.
11:38
I think we need like a 1/2 hour of discussion, then maybe Gadi and I can sit down together and code it up.
11:39
<Gadi>
ooh - it's only Monday and I already have a date!
11:39* Gadi doesn't mean to brag
11:40
<Q-FUNK>
:D
11:40
<warren>
sbalneav: is xinit really common for all distros?
11:40
sbalneav: including location?
11:41
sbalneav: I still think we need a binary that runs X so we can monitor all signals
11:41
sbalneav: there is no better way to detect failures and cleanup
11:43* Gadi wonders how a binary running X helps with that
11:43
<Gadi>
Can we not cleanup if X dies?
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<warren>
I'll try to get input from our desktop team
11:43
Gadi: you mean like what we do now? =)
11:44
<sbalneav>
Well, if X dies, and LDM has the X display open, we'll get an X error, we can trigger cleanup from that.
11:45* Lns waves happy Monday to chan.. And ogra: I'm here whenever you can work with me on the nbd_swap bug(s)
11:45
<sbalneav>
Certainly, we don't handle some things as gracefully as we should, and I think we've got a great opportunity here to clean some of this stuff up, and make it more robustified.
11:45
<Gadi>
right - the X client can be informed of X dying without having a parent binary to the Xserver
11:46
<sbalneav>
I think the key is making LDM an actual X application that monitors the X server via XOpenDisplay, and receiving X errors.
11:47
Rather than what it is now, which is just an app that starts a bunch of stuff, and crosses it's fingers and hopes everything works :)
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<Gadi>
yummy - app fingers....
11:50
<sbalneav>
Lunch time. Be back in an hour
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<ogra>
/join #ubuntu-classroom
11:59
bah
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12:08
<warren>
pscheie: you need a pick up from Bangor?
12:11
<pscheie>
warren, no, I'm catching a ride with fgiraldeau & stgraber
12:12
I looked at the map and saw they have to come through Bangor, whereas I wasn't sure about anyone else actually driving that far north
12:13
warren, how many people are coming with you?
12:14
<warren>
pscheie: currently nobody
12:14
pscheie: are you staying the entire time?
12:15
<pscheie>
yep, my plane leaves Bangor at around 3:30pm on Sunday
12:16
on the wiki page, David Johnston is looking for a ride from Boston
12:16
I don't know him, but I think jammcq does
12:16
warren, you going to be there the whole time?
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12:17
<warren>
pscheie: apparently
12:17
if they're coming from north then probably better
12:17
my route doesn't go past there
12:18
<stgraber>
yeah and we'd have been around Bangor at the same time pscheie land so it's really no problem :)
12:18* pscheie thanks stgraber for his hospitality
12:19
<pscheie>
and his great sense of timing
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12:24
<Gadi>
ragnar!
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12:26
<laprag>
hey gadi
12:26
<Gadi>
still need a lift from NY?
12:26
(on thursday)
12:26
<laprag>
ah. thanks a ton, but it looks like i won't come to ny.
12:27
so no thanks!
12:27
<Gadi>
hope it wasn't something I said
12:27
;)
12:27
<laprag>
appreciate the offer though
12:27
heh, nothing you said :)
12:27
<Gadi>
does that mean you will miss out on the Papy Van Winkles this weekend?
12:27
<laprag>
nono
12:28
just that i managed to wriggle out of the meeting in ny
12:28
<Gadi>
ah, so where do you fly into?
12:28
<laprag>
now i'm working on flying out thursday morning rather than night
12:28
boston
12:29
it's a six hour drive from boston, isn't it?
12:29
but i'm just loading the laptop with ltsp now
12:29
so i can do something useful, possibly
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12:31
<Gadi>
laprag: Im driving from NY, so if you need a lift from Boston, lemme know
12:31
when do you land?
12:32
<chrisinajar>
So, hypothetically, if I were to go to ltsp BTW/hackfest for only 1 day, which would be the most interesting?
12:32
*bts
12:33
<laprag>
Gadi: hopefully around 1pm
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<laprag>
Gadi: so you will drive through boston?
12:33
<Gadi>
I can
12:33
its on the way
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12:34
<Gadi>
so, 1pm, then customs, so you'll be out by ~2pm
12:34
unless they sniff your suitcase....
12:35* Gadi should give you my cell
12:35
<Gadi>
:)
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<laprag>
hmmm, what's the easiest way to get the dhcp config right? mine looks quite default. symlink to somewhere?
12:45
ah
12:45
<warren>
jammcq: OK, confirmed I'm coming to the hackfest. Possibly with another RH engineer. Could you please be sure I have a room with 2 beds reserved?
12:45* laprag finds it
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<TheBS>
Hey all. I have LTSP up'n running without issues. Pretty much straight-forward. I used Warren's Fedora 9 chroot (client) on both a Fedora 9 server, as well as a RHEL 5 server (with the appropriate additives).
12:48
What I'm having difficulty figuring out now is some of the LTSP init/upstart aspects -- such as where LDM is called
12:48
<pscheie>
warren, http://www.seawallmotel.com/
12:48
<laprag>
hmm
12:49
<TheBS>
I didn't see it in prefdm (and LDM seems to be more like a "startx" init), and didn't see any related environment aspects, but I think I'm just overlooking some things
12:49
<laprag>
ubuntu is a bit too helpful. it kills off the network interface when i turn off the client
12:49
<warren>
pscheie: err... I figured it would be better for jammcq to handle the group? I dunno.
12:50
who is David Johnston?
12:51
<laprag>
warren: he's from Charlotte NC, was there last year
12:51
<warren>
I vaguely recall, was he the really annoying guy?
12:52
He wrote that he wants to share a car from Boston
12:52
<laprag>
heh, probably me that
12:52
<warren>
but if that is the guy I'm thinking of, I do NOT want to drive with him
12:52
Now if that person I'm referring to is in this channel, I'm sorry.
12:52
laprag: oh, not you
12:52
laprag: you're cool
12:52* Blinny goes to sulk in the corner
12:53
<laprag>
warren: i doubt if he's the one, he's quite calm and reserved
12:53
<Blinny>
j/k (l
12:53
<johnny>
we need to send warren to charm school
12:53
<warren>
screw that
12:53
I know how to curtsy.
12:54
<johnny>
more flys with honey than vinegar and all that..
12:54* johnny hangs out with warren in a dress
12:54
<warren>
fruit flies are really attracted to vinegar...
12:54
<laprag>
ooooh, it's as sweet as ever to see those nice startup lines on the mointor :)
12:54
<warren>
makes a great trap
12:55
<johnny>
lol.. i must be the really annoying guy then.. oops :(
12:55
<pscheie>
warren, maybe; I made my own reservation
12:55
<warren>
johnny: no, wasn't you
12:55
It might have been me.
12:55
<johnny>
hehe
12:56
<TheBS>
Anyone wanna talk technical specifics with a noob? Most directly, the Fedora 9 LTSP 5 concepts around how LDM is launched in Init?
12:56
<johnny>
it's launched by ltsp-client-launch in fedora
12:56
<warren>
TheBS: were you the guy that e-mailed me directly?
12:56
<TheBS>
Yes
12:56
;)
12:57
Where is ltsp-client-launch called?
12:57
During init?
12:57
<johnny>
yes
12:57
<warren>
Bryan?
12:57
<TheBS>
I didn't locate it in Upstart/init
12:57
Yes
12:57
<johnny>
it should be in there..
12:57
<TheBS>
BS = Bryan Smith
12:57
I'm blind
12:57
;)
12:57
It comes up
12:57
Just can't find it
12:57
<warren>
TheBS: You e-mailed me during some terribly crazy travel and 13 hour timezone shift
12:57
<TheBS>
In the chroot, or is it dynamically created?
12:57
<johnny>
in the chroot
12:57
<warren>
TheBS: you might be interested to hear that we're working on an official LTSP5 backport to RHEL5 son
12:58
<TheBS>
Oh, no need to explain Warren. Totally understand.
12:58
<warren>
TheBS: with RHEL5 as the client chroot as well
12:58
<TheBS>
Oh, I was kinda doing that already. ;)
12:58
I already started hacking your latest package. So it builds the client (although not vm)
12:58
<chrisinajar>
So, hypothetically, if I were to go to ltsp BTS/hackfest for only 1 day, which would be the most interesting?... I have a friend who might only be able to make it for 1 day.
12:58
<warren>
TheBS: please send any notes or patches to the list...
12:58
<TheBS>
I have it working other than a few details
12:58
Yes, I'm working on an unified initrd creator for both diskless and LTSP
12:59
Really simple stuff
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<johnny>
warren, so.. i finally came up with a reason why we should do tftp in the initramfs/initrd
12:59
<warren>
[root@newcaprica ~]# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sysconfig/desktop
12:59
DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
12:59
johnny: ?
12:59
<johnny>
shows how much i know about fedora..
12:59
<TheBS>
I also found I can build a chroot just using YUM with an alternative root
12:59
<johnny>
:(
12:59
<warren>
TheBS: that's what prefdm runs at the end of bootup
13:00
<TheBS>
Right, understand prefdm, but didn't catch where LDM is called, it is a variable set?
13:00
<johnny>
warren, the reason. is that you can run a different chroot/nfs/nbd for different clients
13:00
<warren>
TheBS: oh, could you please provide the recipe that you use for yum?
13:00
<TheBS>
?
13:00
<Lns>
Has anyone been having issues obtaining IP addresses for TCs after the latest Ubuntu updates of the past week or so?
13:00
<warren>
TheBS: /var/lib/tftpboot/i386/lts.conf SCREEN_07=ldm
13:00
<TheBS>
Just a package list
13:00
I'm actually going to scrape it from a Kickstart (and eventually use PyKickstart calls proper)
13:01
<warren>
TheBS: read the scripts from /usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch which runs screen_session which runs specified screen scripts from lts.conf
13:01
<johnny>
so you could provide [client] CHROOT=amd64fat
13:01
<warren>
TheBS: there's actually other people in RH wanting to backport the necessary stuff to make a supported version of livecd-tools for RHEL5.
13:01
<TheBS>
Yes, I caught the parameters in lts.conf
13:02
But where does it insert that for prefdm? Or call it directly?
13:02
<warren>
TheBS: I would suggest helping that group, because there are benefits to relying on kickstart files.
13:02
<TheBS>
What program, process, etc...?
13:02
I'm really not into doing full up puppet right now
13:02
<warren>
TheBS: read /usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
13:02
<TheBS>
This has to be working by end-of-week
13:02
;)
13:02
<johnny>
warren, wouldn't it be nice to have different clients use different roots without modifying the dhcp server?
13:02
<TheBS>
Including some way to automate, which I've already started by using Perl to scrape a kickstart
13:02
<warren>
johnny: yes, but I think lts.conf is the wrong way to do that.
13:03
<johnny>
hmm.. what would be another way?
13:03
it has to be something in the initrd
13:03
<warren>
TheBS: is this weekend deadline for proof of concept or the actual thing the customer would use?
13:03
TheBS: you could make something that works for the weekend, and help the official way after
13:03
<johnny>
unless we all used the same union mounting
13:03
which we don't..
13:03
<TheBS>
A working prototype that is semi-deployable
13:03
Yes, that's what I'm doing
13:03
There are other people that are waiting on the solution
13:03
<warren>
TheBS: you could also provide the client chroot as a tarball for now
13:04
<TheBS>
Then we'll come back
13:04
They won't accept F9 as a client
13:04
<warren>
a LOT less trouble than the customer finding a network source for the RHEL packages
13:04
TheBS: I mean RHEL5 client
13:04
<TheBS>
Oh, yes, I know, but there still needs to be updates
13:04
<warren>
that's fine
13:04
initial install I mean
13:04
from tarball
13:04
<TheBS>
They are more keen on RHEL 6 for later
13:04
I know
13:04
I'm just trying to get the LDM aspects up
13:04
<warren>
dude
13:04
I told you what you need
13:04
/usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch read this script
13:05
<TheBS>
I'm trying to figure out where in F9's init that the lts.conf settings are applied to what files
13:05
And /usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch is called where
13:05
<warren>
none of the lts.connf settings are applied
13:05
<TheBS>
??
13:05
In the initrd?
13:05
<warren>
no
13:05
lts.conf in Fedora isn't downloaded from the server until /usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
13:05
which is at the end of the boot
13:05
<TheBS>
Where is that called at the end of the boot?
13:05
<warren>
johnny: you coming to the hackfest? better to discuss that in person witih everyone
13:06
<johnny>
warren, i can't afford it
13:06
<ogra>
phew ...
13:06
<TheBS>
Trying to find the exact init
13:06
<johnny>
maybe next time
13:06
<ogra>
my fingers are glowing
13:06* TheBS is thickheaded
13:06
<johnny>
i'll be online tho
13:06
<warren>
TheBS: [root@newcaprica ~]# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sysconfig/desktop
13:06
DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
13:06* TheBS is blind too
13:06
<johnny>
maybe you can export your gobby sessions somehow ..
13:06
<TheBS>
That's exactly what I needed!
13:06
Thanx!
13:06
<warren>
TheBS: after all initscripts are done, and rc.local, I think it runs this from prefdm
13:06
<TheBS>
Totally missed it
13:06
Yep
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13:06
<TheBS>
It spawns it
13:06
Told you I was blind
13:06
;)
13:07
<ogra>
johnny, they could use gobby.ubuntu.com, its a public gobby server
13:07
<johnny>
is it reliable?
13:07
<TheBS>
I should have done a grep -i ltsp on /etc/sysconfig/*
13:07* TheBS smacks himself
13:07
<warren>
TheBS: My suggestion for shipping something this weekend 1) provide a tarball for client chroot, the chroot creation tool will be fixed by other people real soon 2) focus on mkinitrd which is really the only other problem
13:08
TheBS: we might even fix mkinitrd for RHEL5 this weekend
13:08
<TheBS>
Really?
13:08
<warren>
yes
13:08
<TheBS>
Hmmm, okay
13:08
I was just modifying the mkinitrd from stateless/diskless
13:08
<warren>
stateless/diskless has a separate mkinitrd tool?
13:08
<TheBS>
With a script modification ("updateDiskless")
13:08
<ogra>
johnny, well, we use it with some thousand people during UDS usually ... currently it's rather idling
13:08
<warren>
TheBS: there's like three separate departments in RH working on the same fucking problem now. separately.
13:09
<TheBS>
Which includes using some newer mkinitrd support in RHEL 5 (seems it is based on RHEL 3/4 timeframe developments)
13:09
<warren>
TheBS: My goal is to get the LTSP5 stuff backported to RHEL5.4 mkinitrd
13:09
<TheBS>
Yeah, I totally understand
13:09
Hey man, the more you can feed me from future RHEL 5, the better
13:09
<ogra>
johnny, sbalneav and jammcq know about it and have used it before, its free for public use so if there are specs we should work together one gobby.ubuntu.com might be a good thing to use
13:09
<warren>
TheBS: now you can do MOST of the nfs root boot stuff without modifying RHEL5 mkinitrd
13:09
<TheBS>
Right
13:09
<warren>
it is a little unreliable though
13:09
<TheBS>
Right, it won't be perfect
13:09
<warren>
TheBS: how many different types of client hardware for this customer?
13:10
<TheBS>
But it should work for most PCs
13:10
<warren>
TheBS: priv msg
13:10
<TheBS>
Not many, and they would test before any purchase
13:10
Oh, sorry
13:10
<warren>
do you see my priv msgs?
13:10
<TheBS>
Yep
13:10
<warren>
k
13:12
<laprag>
if the authentication using ldm takes a long time, what might be wrong?
13:15
<Gadi>
laprag: dns
13:16
<laprag>
k
13:16* laprag tries to fix that
13:17
<ogra>
laprag, !
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<laprag>
hey there herr oliver
13:19
<ogra>
:)
13:22
<Lns>
Anyone wanna help me fix some nbd swap issues? :)
13:23
<Gadi>
so, if I have a USB-serial adapter connected to a serial printer -whats the cups uri?
13:23
serial?
13:23
usb?
13:23* Gadi is so confused
13:25
<ogra>
ipp ?
13:25* ogra isnt serious :)
13:25
<Gadi>
and I wont call you shirley
13:25
<ogra>
i'd guess some ttyUSB device
13:25
<Gadi>
right - but i dunno what backend to use
13:26
<johnny>
lol
13:26
<ogra>
serial i guess
13:26
<johnny>
probably the serial..
13:26
<Gadi>
ill try
13:26
<ogra>
why the heck do you even have serial printers
13:26
<Lns>
ogra: POS receipt printers i'd assume
13:27
<Gadi>
because I have a customer requesting to use one with a thin client
13:27
(oh and we have label printers here that are USB or serial)
13:28
but, I need to get the serial working
13:28
<ogra>
get new customers then
13:28
<Gadi>
lol
13:28
<Lns>
lol
13:28* Gadi forgot to put on his developer-screw-the-user hat
13:28
<Gadi>
:)
13:28
<ogra>
:)
13:29* ogra just tries to recover from his talk ... sorry i'm in sarcastic mood :)
13:29
<chrisinajar>
ogra: if only solutions were that simple.... //get new customers then//
13:30
<ogra>
heh
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<sbalneav>
Lns: So, remind me, what's the problem again?
13:46
<Lns>
sbalneav: thanks for responding :) see LP #281498
13:46
hrm..thought the bot posted urls - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/281498
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<sbalneav>
Lns: OK, so you've made the changes, does it give any error messages now, or is it just a case that the dd is hung up?
13:51
<Lns>
sbalneav: no more messages other than hanging up on the TC at "Negotiation: ", and yes, dd is hung up on the server
13:51
<jammcq>
hey, it's laprag
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<jammcq>
err, was laprag
13:54
<sbalneav>
Lns: OK, so at a command prompt on the server, what happens if you "telnet localhost 9572"
13:55
<Lns>
sbalneav: during the hang-up or does it matter?
13:55
<sbalneav>
DOesn't matter
13:55
<Lns>
sbalneav: lns@austincreekubuntu:~$ telnet localhost 9572 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'.
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<sbalneav>
Do you eventually see a string that says NBDMAGIC then some gobbdleygook?
13:56
<Lns>
lesse...
13:56
<sbalneav>
Should only take 1 second
13:56
<Lns>
then no
13:56
<sbalneav>
ok
13:57
This is on hard, right?
13:57
hardy
13:57
<Lns>
yes
13:57
<sbalneav>
k
13:57
what's the contents of your . /etc/ltsp/nbdswapd.conf
13:57
have one?
13:57
<Lns>
lns@austincreekubuntu:~$ cat /etc/ltsp/nbdswapd.conf SIZE=256
13:57
yep
13:58
(i'm removing CRs btw)
13:58
<sbalneav>
k, for the moment, lets remove it. or move it out of the way.
13:58
<Lns>
k
13:58
sbalneav: oh, you know what there is a msg, let me get it real quick
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<Lns>
sbalneav: It was that "could not parse config file nothing to do, bye!" msg - though I remember hearing that was moot
14:00
<sbalneav>
what, telnet localhost 9572 gives you that?
14:00
<Lns>
no
14:00
bootup on the server actually
14:01
<sbalneav>
So what gives you that message?
14:01
<Lns>
nbd-server
14:01
<sbalneav>
ok, you got the nbdswapd.conf file out of the way?
14:01
Try re-telnetting again
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<Lns>
yep.. ok, got the "NBDMAGICB ?? S
14:02
<sbalneav>
ok, try booting a terminal
14:02
<Lns>
ok lemme call the onsite tech
14:02
<sbalneav>
that'll give you a 32 meg swap.
14:02
lets see if that works, then we need to find out why it hangs with SIZE=256
14:03
<Lns>
ok
14:05
sbalneav: ok, the tech is rebooting a few thin clients right now
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14:07* Lns can't believe HP T5530 thin-clients still ship with only 128MB RAM
14:10
<Lns>
sbalneav: sorry, still waiting, she has to leave the phone to check on status
14:10
<sbalneav>
NP
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<Lns>
sbalneav: ok, will be ~20min before we can continue - there's now a rogue trendnet device repeatedly asking for DHCP addys, causing thin clients to fail DHCP config. This is unrelated to the nbd issue though
14:23
Can I ping you when we get that off the network to continue troubleshooting?
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<sbalneav>
Lns: No problem
14:32
I'll be on the channel till 4:15 or so local time.
14:32
<Lns>
ok
14:32
thank you =)
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<Lns>
sbalneav: still there?
16:10
<sbalneav>
For about 3 minutes
16:10
Got a result?
16:11
<Lns>
yikes :p ok.. well w/no nbdswapd.conf, the bootups seem to be a bit faster, but still around 2-3 minutes, mostly hanging at the "hardware detection" (I'm assuming it's still at nbd swap file creation)
16:11
<sbalneav>
If you set NBD_SWAP=false then it's fast?
16:12
<Lns>
hmm i'm pretty sure, lemme try
16:13
Testing..one min
16:14
quick Q while waiting..if you have a LIKE stanza in lts.conf for thinclients, but no actual options for the section it goes to, it shouldn't present issues right?
16:14
the section exists but the options for them are commented out
16:14
<sbalneav>
Dunno
16:15
If it does, it's a bug :)
16:15
<Lns>
ok
16:16
<sbalneav>
It's still booting?
16:16
<Lns>
yeah...
16:16
<sbalneav>
You've got something else wrong
16:16
<Lns>
so it looks like osme other issue right now
16:17
ugh..it sucks cuz i know it's something new that came up over the weekend now
16:17
<sbalneav>
try something like acpi=force on the pxe kernel command line.
16:17
anyway, I gotta go. I'll be on later tonight.
16:17
<Lns>
ok, thanks for your help :)
16:17
<sbalneav>
talk to you later.
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<Gadi>
Lns: you cannot have a stanza with no options
16:21
that will produce a parse error
16:21
and none of the lts.conf file params will be read
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<Gadi>
at least put a dummy variable in that stanza
16:21
like: LNS=cool
16:21
<Lns>
Gadi: so .. i have a complete "LIKE = hpt5530" stanza, with an existing [hpt5530] line..just no options listed under that
16:21
<Gadi>
right
16:21
<Lns>
oh ok
16:22
<Gadi>
under [hpt5530] put:
16:22
LNS=cool
16:22
<Lns>
lol
16:22* Lns wants that to be a real option
16:22
<Lns>
and only = true will be accepted =p
16:22
ok done..i'm off to the site to troulbeshoot more
16:23
thx Gadi =)
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<Lns_onsite>
Ok, here's an interesting q.. after, say, 10-15min of not booting any dhcp clients, i can boot a handful at a time and they'll boot to LTSP fine. If I go Options -> Reboot and they attempt PXE/DHCP again, it fails. Any ideas?
17:48
daemon.log shows dhcp is attempting DHCPOFFER but the client never accepts. Again, this is after rebooting the client after obtaining a valid lease
17:56
reboot time
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<Lns_onsite>
ok this is really weird
18:05
Is it normal for 'tail -f' and/or auth.log to delay in logging?
18:05
on a TC, i open gnome-terminal, su to root, the first time it takes like 15 seconds for me to get a root prompt.
18:06
subsequent attempts are instantaneous, but all the while I'm 'tail -f auth.log' and it takes 10-20 sec for the auth lines to pop up after su'ing.
18:07
Also, after rebooting after a kernel upgrade to .21, I tried logging on ON THE SERVER on tty1, tty2, tty3 and GDM....all of them hung after logging in. MOTD displayes on ttys, and then ...nothing. No prompt.
18:07
I rebooted the server after seeing that and everything on the server console itself seemed fine..but wtf would cause that, and now this what i'm seeing on TCs ?
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<Lns_onsite>
Ok who wants to kill me
18:33* Lns_onsite raises hand
18:33
<Ryan52>
what did you break? ;)
18:34
<Lns_onsite>
It seems as though after the last batch of kernel upgrades (amongst other upgrades), there is some sort of I/O, or other system starvation going on to where even logging onto a tty is causing a ~30sec (minimum) delay
18:34
This isn't just LTSP anymore
18:36
on the server, I reboot - logging onto tty1, tty2, tty3...and logging out, causes a major delay with no rampant processes, no disk i/o... loggign onto GDM does the same thing (hangs after password is entered and character dots gray-out). Also, same thing after booting ~8 thin-clients. 8 boot up fine (after about 10 minutes of network/system idle time), and then if i reboot, the same clients won't obtain an IP address. Something crazy is going on on the serv
18:36
er.
18:36
It's hanging on *something*, and it doesn't seem to be auth specific, since dhcp clients are acting the same way....
18:38
now the ttys are logging in fine...
18:39
<vagrantc>
DNS?
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<Lns_onsite>
vagrantc: would that cause ttys on the server console to hang on login and logout?
18:42
now that the ttys were logging in, i went back out into the lab and booted 8 thinclients...they booted fine.
18:42
i immediately rebooted them via ldm options -> reboot, and now they won't get an IP.
18:43
and now the ttys on the server console are hanging on login.
18:43
something is exhausting itself on the server.
18:44
this is the weirdest f*cking thing iv'e ever seen. pardon my french..
18:46
from my experience it seems similar to entropy running out, but i still have 3k
18:47
nbd_swap is even turned off, so that's not the issue.
18:48
at least as far as exausting i/o or some crazy thing
18:51
<vagrantc>
well, DNS with network auth ...
18:51
could definitely cause issues on the console, too.
18:52
<loather-work>
yeah, if dns isn't working it will cause console logins to take a while
18:52
dns pretty much sucks
18:54
<Lns_onsite>
well dns seems to be fine.. it's querying, on the booted-up terminals and server i never got a resolve issue when visiting pages/here
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<Lns_onsite>
and it seems completely reproducible when booting about 8 pxe/dhcp clients...i'm wondering what apic/something like that has to do with it
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<sbalneav>
Evening all!
19:31
<Lns>
sbalneav!
19:32
<stgraber>
evening sbalneav
19:32
<sbalneav>
Hey hey
19:33
<stgraber>
sbalneav: I just saw yout update to the wiki, it's interesting because it's something we'd have wanted to discuss with Francis :) (having X started from the screen script)
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sbalneav: I'm not really a fan of having everything hardcoded in C unless there is a real improvement in doing so (shell is so much easier to read/understand :))
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<Lns>
Ok I'm logging out...but anyone who wants to think about this in the bg.. With whatever Hardy kernel/other updates in the past 1 1/2 weeks or so, my servers have been able to boot a set (8 normally) thinclients fine. As soon as I turn them off and back on, DHCP will not give them an address, as well as at the server console, logging on (tty/gdm/doesn't matter) produces incredible lag. MOTD on TTYs show, prompt will not show for at least 2 minutes. After sitting idl
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e for 10-15min, everything is back to normal. Fight!
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19:37* petre agrees with stgraber
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<sbalneav>
Well, C ldm was a huge speed improvement over the python one.
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And things like cdpinger, and ltspfs would be impossible to do in sh.
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Sh's fine, but all it does is make it easier on US. C makes it easer for the people running low end clients.
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Who, after all, is who we've traditionally tried to support.
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Gadi: You about big guy?
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<loather-work>
i like the fact that it was moved to C
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the python LDM was such a dog
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<sbalneav>
It got us started, so it was a good first go around.
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<loather-work>
definitely. python for proof-of-concept is a great idea
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i just wouldn't write anything production in it
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<sbalneav>
I think it makes sense to do things in C that will give us the performance boost/memory savings we need, and anything that's non-critical, leave as much as we can in a HLL
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<loather-work>
python is *so* slow and has a resource footprint the size of the moon though. i'd say anything that can't be done in shell should be done in C.
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...and you can do a *lot* of stuff in shell.
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<sbalneav>
I'm working on adding serial support to jetpipe. Sockets, serial geometry, devices. There's something that a PITA to do in C, but will be fairly short in python.
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<Ryan52>
what's jetpipe?
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<sbalneav>
The print server
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<Ryan52>
ah
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<sbalneav>
for hanging a printer off a terminal
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<sbalneav>
We used to use lp_server, which did absolutely everything we wanted
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<sbalneav>
except come with a license that we could redistribute it legally
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<jammcq>
helloooooo
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<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq
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<Gadi>
hello
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<sbalneav>
Hey Gadi !
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<Gadi>
sbalneav: got gobby installed and branching ltsp-trunk
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will host jetpipe in a sec
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<sbalneav>
I'm already editing, let me know and I'll load in what I've done so far
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<Gadi>
hehe
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sure... start playing without me
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<Gadi>
testing. 1, 2, 3
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<sbalneav>
I'm here
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<rjune__>
!g
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<ltspbot>
rjune__: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<Ryan52>
warren: if I just want two virtual machines to talk to each other (and not my main internet), can I use a bridge and use tap devices like your example script does?
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<warren>
yes
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Ryan52: and you can add multiple tap devices to a VM
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<Ryan52>
I mean can I just have a bridge with 2 tap devices?
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<Ryan52>
cause it's not working...
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<Ryan52>
using tcp sockets I can get the thin client to get dhcp from the server vm, but then there's just moving dots for a while until I loose my patience.
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: i've had to bring the interfaces up with "ifconfig $IFACE up" and such ...
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Ryan52: my scripts not working for you?
20:53* vagrantc has been making extensive use of bridges and virtualbox the last week or so
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: yes, I tried that, and I also tried "ifconfig $IFACE up 0.0.0.0"..
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: this with kvm ?
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<Ryan52>
yup
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screw it; I'll just use a real diskless terminal at freegeek on saturday :P
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<kwak__>
help. i'm still geting the initramfs prompt while ubuntu boots
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<kwak__>
there's an error usplash: no usable theme found for 640x800
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screen init failed
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then i get initramfs prompt. in order to proceed i have to type 'return'
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<johnny>
640x800??
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is that your screen?
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<kwak__>
nope. i didn't set any screen res yet
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ubuntu is in bootup process when this came out
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<kwak_>
any suggestions?
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<kwak>
my clients are getting this error.
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after setting up ltsp client
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Receive control failed (-32)
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<sbalneav>
it's When are they getting this error exactly?
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What kind of clients are they, BTW?
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<kwak>
dell optiplex 100
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<sbalneav>
How much ram?
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<kwak>
they get the error after the line - building ltsp client
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3GB
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sorry
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the clients 128mb
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the server is 3Gb
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<sbalneav>
You're building the chroot for the clients on the server, right?
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<sbalneav>
is the server getting this error message during the ltsp-build-client, or are the clients getting it during boot. I'm not clear on that.
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<kwak2>
sbalneav. I'm getting the error from the clients. Now I'm not getting any response from the client. Can't get any dhcp response.
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I have 3 DELL optiplex GX150. i tried on 1 earlier, and it work but not for the GX100
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<sbalneav>
What's the server, 64 bit or 32 bit?
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