IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 31 March 2009   (all times are UTC)

00:00vvinet has quit IRC
00:42alkisg has joined #ltsp
00:46leio has joined #ltsp
00:48cyberorg has quit IRC
01:14Subhodip has quit IRC
01:23gate_keeper_ has joined #ltsp
01:37cyberorg has joined #ltsp
01:41vagrantc has quit IRC
01:48yggdrasill_ has joined #ltsp
01:48F-GT has quit IRC
01:51F-GT has joined #ltsp
01:59Shingoshi has quit IRC
01:59lucascoala has quit IRC
02:00Shingoshi has joined #ltsp
02:06leio has quit IRC
02:07leio has joined #ltsp
02:20hanthana has joined #ltsp
02:25tjikkun_work has joined #ltsp
02:42japerry has quit IRC
02:50alkisg has quit IRC
02:52F-GT has quit IRC
03:09F-GT has joined #ltsp
03:26mikkel has joined #ltsp
03:27bobby_C has joined #ltsp
03:40try2free has joined #ltsp
03:50ltspbot` has joined #ltsp
03:50ltspbot has quit IRC
03:55mikkel has quit IRC
03:56Shingoshi has quit IRC
03:58mikkel has joined #ltsp
04:34try2free has left #ltsp
04:45hanthana_ has joined #ltsp
04:50Subhodip has joined #ltsp
04:51hanthana has quit IRC
05:34zirconiumks has joined #ltsp
05:39Subhodip has quit IRC
05:47din_os has joined #ltsp
05:56hanthana_ is now known as hanthana
06:05aakash has joined #ltsp
06:09din_os has left #ltsp
06:18alkisg has joined #ltsp
06:25pmatulis has joined #ltsp
06:34alkisg has quit IRC
06:38alkisg has joined #ltsp
06:39csaba_ has joined #ltsp
06:39carniel has joined #ltsp
06:39
<csaba_>
hi
06:39
is anyone here?
06:50
<Appiah>
alot of people in here!
06:51alkisg has quit IRC
06:54
<csaba_>
ok, sorry, first time for me here
06:54
I have deployed a ltsp in a high school
06:54
we have 1 server with some 25 clients
06:54
now I would like to add more servers and clients
06:55
I am looking for a detailed guide as how to add more servers
06:55
and setup so they balance load between them
06:57maginot has joined #ltsp
06:58
<maginot>
Good morning.
07:06cliebow has quit IRC
07:12RobertLaptop has joined #ltsp
07:17zirconiumks has quit IRC
07:18cliebow has joined #ltsp
07:23try2free has joined #ltsp
07:23Remaille has joined #ltsp
07:26
<Remaille>
hi
07:27cyberorg has quit IRC
07:28
<Remaille>
my ltsp server is inside a windows network (plenty of XP computers and a 2003 server)
07:28
how could hide some network windows shares on the network
07:29
hide or forbid the acces from the thin clients ?
07:29
thanks
07:31alkisg has joined #ltsp
07:34
<alkisg>
Remaille: I think the correct way would be to protect them from within Windows - i.e. passwords for access, ntfs security rights etc
07:34
As a workaround, maybe you could use iptables to drop the packets if they use smb port for some specific IPs?
07:35
*I mean if the target port = samba port
07:36
<Remaille>
yes alkisg , but i can't modify windows rights...
07:36
eg , i need to allow acces to P: and not J: or X:
07:37
<alkisg>
In the same machine?
07:37
<Remaille>
(theses are shares on the server)
07:37
yes
07:37
so same IP
07:37
:s
07:37
<alkisg>
Well, then definately windows-side
07:38
<Remaille>
I won'be allowed to de that (strange ok)
07:38
nothing i can do on the ltsp server ?
07:39
<alkisg>
Too much of a workaround... the only thing I can think of is to cut all the traffic to this server, but allow a certain program (smbmount) so that it mounts P: to some path on the server... :(
07:40
But you should really fix your network - what, now anyone with a laptop can access shares that he shouldn't have?
07:40
<Remaille>
I know alkisg
07:41
in my school, we have a software who need is directory to be read/write for everybody to execute itself on the network
07:42
in middle school, no laptop :)
07:42
exept teachers
07:42
on wondows boxes those shares are just hidden
07:43
on a thin client you see all of them
07:44
so, the clue could be tweaking smb ?
07:45aakash has quit IRC
07:50try2free has quit IRC
07:50mikkel has quit IRC
07:50
<cliebow>
maybe just add browseable=no would be enough?
07:51
<Remaille>
cliebow, where ? in the smb.conf ? (thanks)
07:51
<alkisg>
He says he doesn't have access to the windows server configuration...
07:52csaba_ has quit IRC
07:53
<cliebow>
arrgh
07:53
heh..i misread
07:53dropally_ has quit IRC
07:53Trey__ has quit IRC
08:00japerry has joined #ltsp
08:07
<Remaille>
hum it should be possible by the way
08:07
there is a kiosk mode for ltsp
08:07
in this mode, i think that you can't browse the network
08:07
nothing on google for that
08:07* Remaille : still searchning
08:08Gadi_eeepc has joined #ltsp
08:09cyberorg has joined #ltsp
08:10
<cliebow>
ITS GADI!!!
08:11
<Gadi_eeepc>
morning, cliebow
08:11
t al
08:11
*et
08:13
<cyberorg>
moin Gadi_eeepc cliebow all :)
08:27
<maginot>
Hmm I have some reports of firefox crashing as localapps when running some javascripts ... =)
08:27
<Gadi_eeepc>
maginot: it definitely sounds like you have some underllying filesystem issues
08:28
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc, Hmm why you think that?
08:31
<Gadi_eeepc>
well, you reported that localapps firefox was not saving user preferences
08:31
that would only happen if it could not write to the user's homedir
08:31
if it cannot write to the homedir, that means it probably cannot lock files and do other things
08:31
which may compromise the stability of the program
08:32
<maginot>
well, not exactly not saving preferences... it saves well, but if the user disconnects THEM reconnect without rebooting the client all prefes comes reseted, but they are ther
08:32
<Gadi_eeepc>
are they actually i the files?
08:33
in other words, look at the contents of the user's prefs.js
08:33
do you have any server-side login script that you added to reset things upon login?
08:35
<maginot>
no, all default... what I have is 2 plugins, Acroread and Java... but after testing evince I notice that it crashed no more when printing pdf with barcode.. so Im going use it
08:35
and Im going to keep localapps in test and use the on-server procedure with firefox to maitain stability
08:37
localapps is still to much unstable, I will keep testing, will ubuntu 9.10 come with any change for localapps ?
08:44
<Gadi_eeepc>
are you using stgraber's repository?
08:44
!stgraber-ppa
08:44
<ltspbot`>
Gadi_eeepc: "stgraber-ppa" is https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa
08:45
<Gadi_eeepc>
if you use that, it will be the same as Jaunty
08:45
his intrepid packages are latest upstream
08:46
(which may be more stable for localapps - I know we cleaned up a few things)
08:47cyberorg has quit IRC
08:47
<yggdrasill_>
Hi gadi
08:48
<Gadi_eeepc>
hi
08:48
<yggdrasill_>
I'm still having problem with X...
08:48rjune has quit IRC
08:48
<yggdrasill_>
I tried your suggestions but as you told me
08:49
the problem is that the driver recognize the card as a laptop
08:49
and uses the wrong settings
08:50
seems to find an LVDS and DVI output
08:50
<Gadi_eeepc>
right
08:50
<yggdrasill_>
but I can't disable the lvds
08:50
<Gadi_eeepc>
what distro are you on?
08:50
intrepid?
08:50
<yggdrasill_>
I tried to set X_OPTION_01= "\"IgnoreEDID\" \"true\""
08:50
no Hardy
08:51
8.04
08:51
<Gadi_eeepc>
ah
08:51
hmm...
08:51
that makes things tougher
08:51cyberorg has joined #ltsp
08:51
<yggdrasill_>
why?
08:51
<Gadi_eeepc>
you should make a special xorg.conf then
08:51
<yggdrasill_>
i see...
08:51
<Gadi_eeepc>
because hardy does not have the same infrastructure as intrepid
08:51
so, we cannot do an easy hack
08:51
<yggdrasill_>
I should make a custom xorg.conf
08:52
<Gadi_eeepc>
yeah
08:52
<yggdrasill_>
and load it on lts.conf
08:52
<Gadi_eeepc>
make a custom xorg.conf
08:52
<yggdrasill_>
isn't it?
08:52
<Gadi_eeepc>
and in lts.conf, use: X_CONF=/path/to/myXorg.conf
08:52
<yggdrasill_>
i see...
08:52
<Gadi_eeepc>
make sure that xorg.conf has the sectioin to ignore LVDS
08:52rjune has joined #ltsp
08:53
<yggdrasill_>
I have to define in device
08:53
<Gadi_eeepc>
yes
08:53
<yggdrasill_>
or in driver?
08:53
<Gadi_eeepc>
or do this:
08:53
[FUTRO]
08:53
X_CONF = "/path/to/mYXorg.conf"
08:53
[AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF]
08:53
LIKE=FUTRO
08:53
...
08:54
then, for each futro client, you can just use MAC and LIKE
08:54
<_UsUrPeR_>
yggdrasill_: http://pastebin.com/m5ff3d675
08:54
that's some documentation I have saved for our DLW 1520. it should apply
08:55
<Gadi_eeepc>
oh yeah, CONFIGURE_X=True
08:55
man, we made some good changes since Hardy
08:55
:)
08:56
<yggdrasill_>
yes, I set CONFIGURE_X=True
08:56
<_UsUrPeR_>
yggdrasill_: just ignore the parts about creating new images...
08:56
<yggdrasill_>
ok
08:56
<_UsUrPeR_>
err wait
08:56
<yggdrasill_>
and if I would upgrade to Intrepid?
08:56
would things be easier?
08:57
<Gadi_eeepc>
well, in intrepid, we have a directory in which to add hacks for Xorg.conf
08:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
yggdrasill_: is this for a single laptop or a thinclient?
08:57
<yggdrasill_>
thin clients only
08:57
<Gadi_eeepc>
so, we could just drop a hack file in that says "if it detects this chipset, add this to xorg.conf"
08:57
<yggdrasill_>
the futro s450
08:58The_Code has joined #ltsp
08:58
<yggdrasill_>
I have 4 futro thin clients that are identical
08:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi_eeepc / yggdrasill_: here's that specific stuff. It was written by stgraber... http://pastebin.com/m334e6909
08:58
<yggdrasill_>
but since they use large graphic charts
08:59
we bought large displays 1680x1050 22"
09:00mikkel has joined #ltsp
09:01
<yggdrasill_>
this are for 8.10. works in 8.04 too?
09:02
<Gadi_eeepc>
no - for 8.04 use the custom xorg.conf
09:02
<yggdrasill_>
ah ok..
09:03
<Gadi_eeepc>
bbiab
09:03
<yggdrasill_>
just another question: I would like in the next future to upgrade the system to debian. What about?
09:03
is Debian better or not?
09:04
I mean what about LTSP under debian?
09:04
<NeonLicht>
sure it is
09:04
<cliebow>
depends on who you talk to 8~)
09:04
<yggdrasill_>
Well I moved 5 users from window to linux and I chose a soft impact with ubuntu
09:05
<cliebow>
i do believe..i do believe
09:05
<yggdrasill_>
but I would like to move them to debian
09:06
and I wanted to know if this was a good idea
09:06
:)
09:07
I guess it is...
09:08Remaille has quit IRC
09:13
<_UsUrPeR_>
m
09:16alkisg has quit IRC
09:18
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc, well, Im not going to use localapps yet, Im going to keep inside the lab on test before open to production, Im still waiting for the official release of jaunty to test it... for now Im liking very much of the intrepid updates like evince.
09:22Selveste1 has joined #ltsp
09:30shrek has joined #ltsp
09:33bobby_C has quit IRC
09:48Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC
09:49Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp
10:01shrek has quit IRC
10:02gate_keeper_ has quit IRC
10:10staffencasa has joined #ltsp
10:21Subhodip has joined #ltsp
10:26CAN-o-SPAM has joined #ltsp
10:31Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC
10:32
<CAN-o-SPAM>
stgrabber: ping
10:37elisboa has quit IRC
10:38elisboa has joined #ltsp
10:40apocn has joined #ltsp
10:45Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp
10:46Nubae1 has joined #ltsp
10:50tjikkun_work has quit IRC
11:02ogra has quit IRC
11:03ogra has joined #ltsp
11:15The_Code has quit IRC
11:15Gadi_eeepc1 has joined #ltsp
11:15Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC
11:41japerry has quit IRC
11:51
<apocn>
Hello, when my thin client boots Its not going directly to the chroot environment (for example when I execute touch /tmp from a thin client, Its not being created at /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp). How can I fix that?
11:54japerry has joined #ltsp
11:56
<Gadi_eeepc1>
apocn: the thin clients share the chroot as a read-only mount
11:56
if it were read-write, it would be disasterous
11:57
also, /tmp is a tmpfs in thin client memory
11:57
and has nothing to do with the chroot
11:57
just as the /tmp on the server does not write to the hard drive
11:59
<Nubae1>
apocn: thats totally normal behaviour, think of the thin client as being an extension of the server, just a keyboard, a mouse and a monitor connected...
12:04
<apocn>
Gadi_eeepc1: ok, but I see the created file in the server
12:05hanthana has quit IRC
12:05
<apocn>
Nubae1: ok, so if I want to chroot users to their home directories I will need to do it as if its locally (without thinking about ltsp)
12:06
<Nubae1>
/home is on the server, not the client
12:06
<apocn>
Nubae1: sure, but I dont want the clients to go outside their home directory
12:06
so I just need to do that on the server
12:06
<Nubae1>
so set permissions to 600
12:07hanthana has joined #ltsp
12:07
<apocn>
Nubae1: to that homedir? (chmod -R 600 /home/user) ?
12:08
<Nubae1>
yup, users are anyway pushed to /home/user by default, but if u dont want them to see other users home dirs, change the perms
12:08
<apocn>
ok
12:08
<Nubae1>
I dont believe u can lock them in to just /home/user though
12:08
<apocn>
I'll try doing a chroot jail (http://www.fuschlberger.net/programs/ssh-scp-sftp-chroot-jail/)
12:08
<Nubae1>
I might be wrong though, Gadi_eeepc1 probably knows more about this
12:14ajohnson has quit IRC
12:15ajohnson has joined #ltsp
12:19mikkel has quit IRC
12:20spectra has joined #ltsp
12:23Nubae has joined #ltsp
12:26
<apocn>
it worked but not with gnome (only the shell), maybe I'll just use Pessulus and Sabayon
12:26
thanks a lot guys!
12:27carniel has quit IRC
12:28
<Nubae>
sabayon is very buggy, I wouldn't rely on that
12:29
<apocn>
ok
12:29evilx has joined #LTSP
12:31Nubae1 has quit IRC
12:32Lns has joined #ltsp
12:33
<Nubae>
greets Lns
12:33
<Lns>
hey Nubae
12:33* Lns likes his shiny new cloak
12:34apocn has quit IRC
12:34
<Lns>
Nubae: how've you been? Haven't chewed the fat in a while
12:35
<Nubae>
yeah, quite busy... I'm taking on a job running an Altix SGI system
12:35
64 cores
12:35
<Lns>
wow!
12:35
<Nubae>
but SLES :-(
12:35
<Lns>
eewwww... =p j/k
12:35alkisg has joined #ltsp
12:35
<Nubae>
yeah, I'd rather it be debian or even redhat
12:36
<Lns>
hey alkisg
12:36
Nubae: what's it that you don't like about sles?
12:36
<Nubae>
I'd love to install LTSP on it =)
12:36
<alkisg>
Hello Lns, Nubae (long time no see), everyone :)
12:37
<Nubae>
hi alkisg
12:37
<Lns>
it's like a reunion! =p
12:37
<Nubae>
well, I just generally dont like Suse, everything is ass backwards on it
12:37
<Lns>
Nubae: how so?
12:37
<maginot>
what to do when after loading the client it stays in the login prompt and dont start ldm? I tried setting shell to screen 3 and ldm to 7 but doesnt work... screen 7 is just with a cursor blinking, screen 1 have thre prompt and screen 3 have nothing...
12:38
<Nubae>
well for one /var/www is at /srv
12:38
I'm stuck using stupid yast
12:38* Lns wonders if /var/www is lfs?
12:38
<Nubae>
lots of little things like that
12:38
<Lns>
Nubae: well, it *is* a different distro, you gotta expect stuff like that ;)
12:38
<Nubae>
well fedora, debian, centos, redhat, ubuntu all put it there
12:39
ltsp is also not under /opt/ltsp
12:39
<Lns>
yeah, that really is kinda the standard place
12:39
<Nubae>
not that it matters to much, but its just all these irritating little things
12:39
anyway, I'm looking for a good batch processing system
12:40
something to keep users happy and the system from getting bogged down
12:41
<Lns>
maginot: did you revert those screen stanzas and see if it works?
12:43
<maginot>
Lns, well, I have set the screen_03 and screen_07 because wasnt working without them so I tried this to debug, which didnt worked, so with or without it doesn't work, I only have the login prompt in screen_01 and nothing on 07 and nothing on 03 ...
12:43
<Nubae>
graphics problems?
12:43* ogra hopes maginot uses SCREEN_* not screen_*
12:43
<maginot>
I have my XSERVER = vesa and X_MODE = 1024x768
12:44
ogra, yeah, Im using uppercase...
12:44
but Im not using any kind of quote
12:47
I don't know what to do... this client was freezen before I disable sound in bios, I receive some "module-detect: failed to detect any sound hardware" and "E: module.c: failed to load "module-detect" (argument: ""):initialization failed" and "failed to initialize daemon"
12:47
and after that a lot of codec errors and client hangs
12:47
so I put SOUND = false on lts.conf and disabled sound in bios
12:48
<Nubae>
ignore that error
12:48
<maginot>
now the client is booting but when comes to start ldm nothing happens but I can do a ctrl+f1 and see the server prompt
12:48
<Nubae>
happens when thin client loads to quickly
12:48
<maginot>
Nubae, I couldnt ignore, because wasnt booting until disabling sound....
12:48
<Nubae>
sounds like a graphics card problem to me
12:49
<maginot>
Hmm
12:49
XSERVER=vga ?
12:49
<Nubae>
why not let it autodetect?
12:49
what card is it?
12:50
<maginot>
Hmm I dont know... I think its a via card... but I cant set to autodetect because other clients were having problems so I prefer to set per client configuration or default to vesa... at least its working great for the other clients
12:51
<Nubae>
other clients with the same graphics card?
12:51
<maginot>
no, this I'm testing is a different one, an older one...
12:51
Im trying with XSERVER to vga
12:51
<alkisg>
maginot: why don't you try X -configure on the client and see the xorg.log ?
12:52
<maginot>
alkisg, I'm not getting a shell ...
12:52
<alkisg>
Ah, I thought that with Alt+Ctrl+F1 you got a shell
12:52
<ogra>
try without setting SCREEN_07=ldm
12:53
<maginot>
ops, I get it now after XSERVER=vga...
12:53
problem loading ztv ?
12:53
what is this ?
12:55
alkisg, looks like ztv is the problem ... how to block it on lts.conf?
12:55
<alkisg>
I have no idea what ztv is :)
12:55lucascoala has joined #ltsp
12:56
<alkisg>
maginot: maybe it's a graphics module for your graphics card?
12:56
<maginot>
looks like a graphic module, i found this: "This package provides the X.org driver for AMD Geode GX/LX video chipsets. It provides the 'amd' and 'ztv' modules."
12:57
but isnt to work just with vesa or vga ?
13:03
<Lns>
maginot: what distro are you using?
13:04
<maginot>
this client is for ubuntu 7.10
13:05
<Lns>
yikes... why are you using such an old version?
13:05
<maginot>
Im still finishing the tests on 8.10 to put on production, but for now Im with this server
13:05
<Lns>
the AMD geode drivers (if that's what your client has) are probably broken in gutsy
13:06
<ogra>
7.10 is dead on april 23rd
13:06
<maginot>
ogra, well, until there i hope to have 8.10 up and running =D
13:06* Lns laughs at the irony of skipping the lts version =p
13:06
<ogra>
geode was completely broken in 7.10
13:06
dont waste your time on it
13:07
<Lns>
ogra: there might be a ppa for it, there was for hardy
13:07
<maginot>
wow... danm it ... so.. what workaround should I do ? What I'm thinking a kind of odd is that it should work with vesa driver ... dont it ?
13:07
<ogra>
no
13:07
<Lns>
maginot: geode has a rather "strange" history back then
13:08
<ogra>
Gadi_eeepc1 might have a gutsy package, not sure
13:08
<Lns>
i dealt with a lot of it myself in trying to get it to work.. you def. need an updated package, if that is in fact what your client has
13:10
<maginot>
well, the good is that I can skip this client and use another box ... :)
13:10
I think this box was using win98 before O.o
13:11
<Lns>
mmm.... malware... *drool*
13:11
<maginot>
hehe
13:12Nubae has quit IRC
13:13Nubae has joined #ltsp
13:17ajohnson has quit IRC
13:19
<Gadi_eeepc1>
I have geode drivers for gutsy
13:19
and from what I have found, newer ones are no better
13:20
back in gutsy days, it is the amd" driver
13:20
pre-"geode"
13:24
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc1, you think using amd driver could solve?
13:25
dont harm to try ...
13:26
<Gadi_eeepc1>
maginot: first, you should delete the ztv
13:26
it is broken and not necessary
13:27
I didnt catch what chipset it was
13:27
GX2?
13:27
LX?
13:28
<maginot>
let me see.. just a sec
13:29Gadi_eeepc has joined #ltsp
13:29Gadi_eeepc1 has quit IRC
13:29
<maginot>
tell me if is this write, lspci is showing as: VT8378 [S3 Unichrome]
13:29
strange... its trying to load this ztv module ...
13:29
<Gadi_eeepc>
that's a via chipset
13:29
not amd at all
13:29
:)
13:30
<Nubae>
let it autodetect it
13:30
no point in forcing it
13:30
<maginot>
X -configure gives an error trying to load ztv...
13:31
Im kind of lost here, lspci show via, X -configure give an error trying to load ztv ... Im not sure of what to do
13:31
<Nubae>
I have S3s and they load fine with autodetection
13:31
<Gadi_eeepc>
rm /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ztv*
13:31
ltsp-update-image
13:32
:)
13:32
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc, okay, I did already both
13:32
no need to specify XSERVER in lts.conf ? (note that already have XSERVER = vesa in global)
13:32
<Gadi_eeepc>
X -configure will load all modules present
13:32
<maginot>
okay, let me try and see what happen
13:34
<Nubae>
does LTSP work on itanium chipsets?
13:40
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc, okay, after X -configure it complains about the mouse but no error, I them run X -config //xorg.conf.new and I have the gui showing up, the cursor in the cross type (mouse is working fine) and the background is just a grid and nothing happen ...
13:44hanthana has quit IRC
13:45
<Gadi_eeepc>
perfect!
13:46
<maginot>
but I still havent LDM...
13:47* maginot thinking about #startx to see what happen
13:48
<Nubae>
maginot, copy xorg.conf.new to xorg.conf, restart
13:48
<Gadi_eeepc>
no
13:49
ok
13:49
at this point
13:49
XSERVER=auto does not work?
13:49
if not, try simply: CONFIGURE_X=True
13:50
<maginot>
I can try... but this can be a per client configuration right ?
13:51
<Gadi_eeepc>
sure
13:52
<maginot>
Gadi_eeepc, you know, you are a kind of smart dude ;) everything went fine now, the client is booting normaly and I used XSERVER=auto =)
13:52
thanks again
13:53
<Gadi_eeepc>
:)
13:56
<cliebow>
GADI ROCKS!
13:57
<maginot>
hehe yeah, I must agree with that =)
13:57Nubae has quit IRC
13:59
<maginot>
but to be fair I have received help of a lot of people here
13:59
sometimes Im feeling a bit annoying but its the way ... =X
14:03ajohnson has joined #ltsp
14:07moosetek has joined #ltsp
14:12vagrantc has joined #ltsp
14:14
<NeonLicht>
hey, vagrantc, I have installed the backports for Lenny, as you told me yesterday they were needed for localapps... I've been able to run a few localapps already and, best of all (the reasson why I wanted them in the first place) I've been able to dd a disk image into an USB stick w/o having to go to the server room to place it into the server, hahaha, thanks a lot man, for the great job and the so useful information!
14:16bobby_C has joined #ltsp
14:16
<vagrantc>
NeonLicht: glad to hear it! :)
14:16
NeonLicht: sometimes all we hear is what's broken, so thanks. :)
14:17
<NeonLicht>
well, it works very nicely for me, actually, perhaps I'll find some problems in the future, but for now it has solved the inconviniencies I had, vagrantc :-)
14:18
well sometimes we also have to tell when something works, shoudn't we? XDD
14:18
and not only complain when they don't, hehe
14:23cliebow has quit IRC
14:27Subhodip has quit IRC
14:28
<alkisg>
vagrantc, I've been working with LTSP in my ancient pc school labs for 2 years now with only minor problems, thanks a lot to you and all the LTSP team! :) :) :)
14:29
(no pun intented :))
14:30
<NeonLicht>
hahaha
14:30
<ogra>
great to hear
14:31* ogra really needs to find the time to test jauntys ltsp before release
14:31
<vagrantc>
ogra: just wait till after the release, then it'll be stable. :)
14:31
<ogra>
so many beautiful additions and i have no time to try them
14:31
heh
14:32
i'd still love to merge my arm work in
14:32
but that would require a bit of spare time
14:33* ogra was hacking up flash-kernel the whole day ... and still washing my eyes out
14:33
<ogra>
seems everyone adding code there invented a new scripting style ... fun
14:34
ltsp code seems so straight and clean compared to that
14:34
even with Gadi_eeepc's hacks :P
14:48vagrantc has quit IRC
14:56lucascoala has quit IRC
15:00vagrantc has joined #ltsp
15:00maginot has quit IRC
15:11tier1_ has joined #ltsp
15:14moosetek has quit IRC
15:21dropally has joined #ltsp
15:22
<dropally>
would you guys recommend on doing the alternate install of ubuntu ltsp, or installing ubuntu intrepid and installing ltsp from there for a single nic setup
15:24
<alkisg>
alternate - mounts the cd and saves a lot of bandwidth for ltsp-build-client
15:24
<dropally>
using the alternate build I'm having issues right out of the box
15:24
tftp and dhcp errors
15:25
maybe I got spoiled from using k12linux, it works right after the install
15:27
<vagrantc>
most ubuntu installs work right after the install too
15:27
<dropally>
ok thats good to know, I'm using virtualbox for my testbed, maybe thats my problem
15:28
<vagrantc>
it's really easy to do a 2 NIC setup with virtualbox
15:28
<dropally>
yes I've used it before
15:28
wonder what i did wrong
15:28
i didn't have any internet either
15:28
both nic's, eth0 and eth1 had the same ip
15:29
maybe since it's virtual it got mixed up having the same nic
15:30
<vagrantc>
i always set up two nics, one with "NAT" and one on an "internal" network.
15:32
<dropally>
I am trying to eliminate the "internal" network
15:32
<vagrantc>
because?
15:32
<dropally>
I have many rooms/labs to setup thin clients at
15:33
so I don't want to put a thin client server at each room or lab
15:34
my basic need is to have 1 thin client server
15:34
in the main server cabinet
15:34
the thin clients are primarily laptops with no hard drives
15:35
some users have them at one spot, some users move around
15:43palichis has joined #ltsp
15:48
<palichis>
hello, I have a problem with my ltsp .. when trying to login in a work station tells me that this station is not authorized to connect to the server, any idea of this error?
15:49
<vagrantc>
!release
15:49
<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "release" is please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
15:49
<vagrantc>
palichis: you'll probably need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys and maybe ltsp-update-image
15:50
<palichis>
i used ubuntu8.04 alternate
15:52
ok I will try .. there, I notice as I was
15:55
vagrantc: thanks for the help .. already works :P
15:57palichis has quit IRC
16:01pmatulis has quit IRC
16:02dropally has quit IRC
16:14CAN-o-SPAM has quit IRC
16:14Egyptian[Home] is now known as Confucious
16:17spectra has quit IRC
16:22elisboa has quit IRC
16:23alkisg has quit IRC
16:24elisboa has joined #ltsp
16:33palichis has joined #ltsp
16:34
<palichis>
hello again ... I do run my laptop as a client .. but I get the following error
16:34
Loading, please wait...
16:34
ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
16:34
ipconfig: no devices to configure
16:34
/init: .: 1: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
16:34
[ 27.323320] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
16:35
sorry by copy and paste the entire error
16:45elisboa has quit IRC
16:47elisboa has joined #ltsp
16:51tier1__ has joined #ltsp
16:54Selveste1 has quit IRC
16:56
<palichis>
anyone know this error occurs because
16:56
http://pastebin.solid-ec.org/?page=view&id=1238536529
16:57Memfis has joined #ltsp
16:57tier1_ has quit IRC
17:00
<Memfis>
evening all, I'm sucessfully running ltsp on xubuntu however I'm having problems getting local usb devices to show up. I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev however am getting stuck on obtaining a text console on the ltsp client. I have set a root passwd in the ltsp chroot. Can anyone advise?
17:10klausade has joined #ltsp
17:16F-GT has quit IRC
17:17bobby_C has quit IRC
17:19F-GT has joined #ltsp
17:25litlebuda has joined #ltsp
17:35tier1_ has joined #ltsp
17:43vagrantc has quit IRC
17:43Gadi_eeepc has quit IRC
17:43Gadi_eeepc1 has joined #ltsp
17:53tier1__ has quit IRC
18:10human_blip has quit IRC
18:11human_blip has joined #ltsp
18:13palichis has left #ltsp
18:14
<loather-work>
Memfis: ctl-alt-f1?
18:15
<Memfis>
yes
18:15
doesn't do anything
18:16
lol
18:16
does now
18:16
don't know why, didn't work on one box, just tried another and works fine. please excuse me :)
18:16
I'll carry on reading the instrustions :)
18:18
hmmm
18:19
'you're account has expired please contact administrator'
18:19
your*
18:20
did chroot /opt/ltsp/i386, passwd, exit, ltsp-update-image
18:20
did I miss something?
18:21
<loather-work>
to set the password for root?
18:21
<Memfis>
yes
18:21
client has been rebooted since performing those actions
18:22F-GT has quit IRC
18:22
<loather-work>
try usermod -e 2038-01-01 root from inside the chroot
18:23
<Memfis>
done, rebuilding image
18:24
I'm trying to get local usb sticks to work on clients, then I'm going to see about sorting out sound.
18:25
sound isn't so important tho.
18:26
also, would you know why I'm getting 'Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptor' on the clients?
18:27
still seams to work ok with this error :)
18:28
thank you, your usermod command worked perfectly., any idea on this file descriptor?
18:30
<Ryan52>
ya, and then in 2038 you're gonna get really confused. :)
18:31
<Memfis>
lol, nah this is a test system, doubt it'll be arround that long. I am aiming for a full thin client lan in the near future, just wanted to see how far I could get now :)
18:35
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev Step 4.
18:35
The ldm socket's name is "ldm_socket_<vt number ldm is running on>_<ip address of server>
18:35
How do I know what vt number ldm is running on?
18:36* Ryan52 wonders if that's even accurate anymore..
18:36
<Ryan52>
which version of ubuntu?
18:36
<Memfis>
Xubuntu 8.10 I believe
18:36
<Ryan52>
I think it's changed since then.
18:36F-GT has joined #ltsp
18:36
<Ryan52>
Memfis: do "ls /var/run/ldm_*"
18:37
<Memfis>
no such file or directory.... lol
18:37
<Ryan52>
are you logged in from the thin client?
18:38
it only works if you have a connection.
18:38
<Memfis>
sorry did you want that run on server or client?
18:38
<Ryan52>
run on the client.
18:38
<Memfis>
same result on either client or server.
18:39
<Ryan52>
please answer my question.
18:39
<Memfis>
oh, logged in, sorry didn't realise what you meant.
18:40
don't think so this time. I'll reboot.
18:40
<Ryan52>
so you're logged in to the server from the thin client?
18:40
log in as usual...
18:40
by entering your username and password into ldm.
18:40* Ryan52 is confused
18:41
<Memfis>
this pc = vista :( ssh'd to server. client next to me.
18:41
<Ryan52>
oh
18:41* Ryan52 continues to wonder how that's relevent at all....
18:43
<Memfis>
you where getting confused. right, client rebooted, logged in, found ldm socket thank you
18:44
<Ryan52>
k
18:44staffencasa has quit IRC
18:45
<Memfis>
ok ran step 4
18:45
Just says "Error: /media/memfis is not mounted"
18:46
any way to get debug info on why it didn't mount?
18:51
can't find anything useful on google.
18:54
guys?
18:59Lns_ has joined #ltsp
19:15tier1__ has joined #ltsp
19:16tier1_ has quit IRC
19:23lucascoala has joined #ltsp
19:24tier1_ has joined #ltsp
19:38tier1__ has quit IRC
19:38tier1__ has joined #ltsp
19:44tier1_ has quit IRC
19:51Gadi_eeepc has joined #ltsp
19:51Gadi_eeepc1 has quit IRC
20:04try2free has joined #ltsp
20:05Memfis has left #ltsp
20:09tier1_ has joined #ltsp
20:14F-GT has quit IRC
20:16F-GT has joined #ltsp
20:17wortley has joined #ltsp
20:20litlebuda has quit IRC
20:24
<wortley>
Hi, I'm attempting to enable local apps on LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04. I can't find the script /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/ltsp-localapps. Locate can't find it either. Am I missing a package.
20:25tier1__ has quit IRC
20:26tier1__ has joined #ltsp
20:27
<wortley>
?
20:30
<Lns_>
wortley: I don't think localapps works in 8.04
20:31
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup
20:32
<wortley>
Lns_ Hmm.. I got the instructions from the link you posted.
20:32
However, at the top of the page it says 8.10. Is this a major change from 8.04 to 8.10?
20:32
<Lns_>
i'm not sure..i've never tried localapps in hardy on any of my servers..
20:35
<Ryan52>
wortley: local apps is a fairly new thing..
20:35
I think it mostly started at the hackfest last summer..
20:35
which is after 8.04 was released.
20:35
(they could have updated the one in hardy, but still, if it says to use 8.10, use 8.10)
20:37
<wortley>
Ryan52 Thank you for the history. I'm new to this, so that is very helpful. I'm thinking about running mythtv as a localapp.
20:41tier1_ has quit IRC
20:55Ahmuck has quit IRC
21:18tier1_ has joined #ltsp
21:20vagrantc has joined #ltsp
21:21jammcq has joined #ltsp
21:21
<jammcq>
hello friends
21:28* vagrantc waves
21:28wortley has quit IRC
21:29tier1_ has quit IRC
21:31japerry has quit IRC
21:35tier1__ has quit IRC
22:02CaScAdE^1FK has joined #ltsp
22:18japerry has joined #ltsp
22:20CaScAdE^AFK has quit IRC
22:32
<rjune_>
jammcq: !
22:33
<lucascoala>
howdy
22:39try2free has left #ltsp
22:42
<Lns_>
hey jammcq
22:47Subhodip has joined #ltsp
23:04evilx_ has joined #LTSP
23:05evilx has quit IRC
23:34vagrantc has quit IRC
23:49hanthana has joined #ltsp
23:57Subhodip has quit IRC