IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 December 2018   (all times are UTC)

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12:53
<alkisg>
mmarconm: the ltsp server usually is a template for the clients; but nowadays that installations may only have fat clients, it can be without desktop environment too; it's just not usual
12:54
<mmarconm>
O
12:54
Ok
12:55
<alkisg>
In general, following the installation page will save you much trouble and give you the best advice on distro, de, configuration, etc etc
12:55
!install
12:55
<ltsp>
install: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
13:14
<mmarconm>
Thanks, i followed both installation, chroot and chrooless, buth working, using chroot installation
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16:25
<josefig>
hey gm, ma' friends
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16:59
<vagrantc>
alkisg: what's the minimum ubuntu version you support? 18.04 ?
16:59
alkisg: looking at bumping the debhelper dependency for ltsp...
17:10
<alkisg>
vagrantc: sure
17:10* alkisg isn't sure why that's a good thing, but it doesn't hurt now
17:11
<alkisg>
(i mean, "no recent debhelper" is always a problem in many package buidls in launchpad, and I don't know when bumping the version actually helps, if we don't need anything from the new version anyway...)
17:12
<vagrantc>
it's more just housecleaning, from my perspective
17:12
we don't *need* it, per se
17:13
<alkisg>
I thought >= version was defined only when specific things were needed...
17:13
anyway, I don't have any issue regarding ltsp/debhelper
17:13
For epoptes, it'd be nice to keep it compatible with at least 16.04
17:14
<vagrantc>
ok
17:15
16.04 + backports ok, if it comes up?
17:15
apparently alreaddy broke that for epoptes
17:17
there's a newish thing that allows setting only a build-depends on debhelper-compat (=X) rather than setting it both in debian/compat and build-depends >=X
17:18
i'm not sure if it's in ubuntu versions or not
17:20
so it'd be nice to not specify compat level in two places
17:31
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I think the last time I needed to upload epoptes for 16.04, it didn't build on launchpad, so I built it for bionic and copied the binary instead
17:32
I can do that again if it makes your life easier, so go ahead and do the changes you're thinking
17:32
<vagrantc>
alkisg: well, the epoptes changes were already pushed
17:32
in september or so
17:32
<alkisg>
I mean the debhelper-compat thing, that's not yet pushed, is it?
17:33
<vagrantc>
no
17:33
it's not a huge deal either way
17:33
18.04 supports debhelper 11, but maybe not a new enough version for debhelper-compat mechanism
17:34
so i can stick to the old method and it's fine
17:37
<alkisg>
vagrantc: how easy would it be to get epoptes 1.0 to stretch-backports?
17:37
I just tried to install it on raspbian and I had to use the ubuntu ppa...
17:44
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i would have to request upload rights to stretch-backports, and i suspect the upload would be simple
17:44
alkisg: but raspbian isn't supported in stretch-backports
17:45
alkisg: it's a separate distro, like ubuntu
17:45
(or derivative)
17:45
<alkisg>
vagrantc: eh, they're based on stretch etc
17:46
They do copy the packages... not sure about the backports... but I would just put debian's repository anyway
17:46
for epoptes
17:46
apt policy epoptes => 500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian stretch/main armhf Packages
17:46
They don't even use different names, it's plain stretch there
17:50
<vagrantc>
could cause issues as raspbian isn't really armhf, it's armhf backported to armv6
17:50
it really shouldn't have used the same architecture name
17:52
<alkisg>
armv6 is for rpi1, while rpi2 is armv7?
17:52
<vagrantc>
yeah
17:52
<alkisg>
Hmm that's why the epoptes ppa worked :D
17:52
<vagrantc>
but some of your binaries built for amrv6, and some built for armv7 ... maybe result in unexpected behavior
17:53
it's likely to work, but ... there could be difficult perplexing issues
17:53
<alkisg>
Btw raspbian ships the newest realvnc, it's way better than the other vnc viewers
17:54
Automatic scaling, -listen accepts multiple connections...
17:54
I wonder if I should write a wiki page about it, for people asking how to have automatic scaling...
17:56
<vagrantc>
you've got the taste for all the best vintage VNC clients
17:57
they seem to change eery other year
17:58
<alkisg>
Eh, the default one in debian doesn't work...
17:58
It doesn't even allow the teacher to multicast his screen :/
18:01
Wow raspbian stretch chrome supports hw acceleration in youtube!
18:01
Full screen youtube is possible! Wow! :)
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23:05
<vagrantc>
alkisg: hrm. ltsp-config can't have it's example files in /usr/share/ltsp-server/examples ... it breaks the program when nodoc is built...
23:09
and not very gracefully...
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23:29
<alkisg>
vagrantc: where would we put them?
23:38
move them from /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples to /usr/share/ltsp-server?
23:57
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i've committed a patch locally to /usr/share/ltsp/examples
23:57
although maybe "templates" would be more appropriate
23:58
alkisg: it's simple to fall-back to /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples