IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 October 2014   (all times are UTC)

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<gdi2k>
hi, anyone with good epoptes knowledge around?
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02:12
<bennabiy>
!ask | echo gdi2k
02:12
<ltsp`>
gdi2k ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
02:16
<gdi2k>
we have an issue with epoptes where some machines stop showing the actual screen of the user and instead just show the "fat" icon, as if no-one was logged into them. I've asked about it before and it happens if the client disconnects from the server for some reason. My question is, is there something on the client I could periodically check with a cron to see if it is working, and start / restart if not? we have this with 3 - 4 clients out of 30ish each day,
02:16
but rarely the same ones
02:17
* and start / restart if it is not running (via cron)
02:17
<bennabiy>
Is this happening when the user is still logged in?
02:17
<gdi2k>
yes
02:17
<bennabiy>
what happens if you view the client?
02:17
<gdi2k>
if I monitor the user, I can see their screen as normal
02:17
<bennabiy>
and does the preview return to normal?
02:18
the icon
02:18
<gdi2k>
no, once it's gone, it never returns to normal
02:18
<bennabiy>
hmm
02:18
<gdi2k>
only a reboot
02:18
(possibly if they log out and log back in, not sure)
02:18
<bennabiy>
I would post a report on launchpad for Phantomas
02:21
<gdi2k>
ok thanks, will do that. so I file it as a bug against epoptes? or is there some way I can report it direct to Phantomas?
02:21
or as a question?
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02:22
<bennabiy>
Well, Phantomas is one of the main maintainers for epoptes, so if you file the bug, he should get the report
02:22
and yes, against epoptes, not ltsp
02:22
<gdi2k>
ok thanks, will do that
02:23
<bennabiy>
check back here later (he is on greek time if I recall correctly, so might be coming back in the near future.)
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02:35
<bennabiy>
stgraber: are there any repositories still hosting files for raring?
02:36
stgraber: or do you know if it could be a smooth transition from Raring to Trusty if done as an online upgrade through dist-upgrade?
02:36
<stgraber>
bennabiy: old-releases.ubuntu.com
02:39
<bennabiy>
stgraber: thank you
02:40
stgraber: what about upgrading directly to trusty? Do you think it would work, or would a fresh install be the only option? I have a lab that is still running Raring
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02:44
<bennabiy>
stgraber: unstable connection?
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03:54
<gdi2k>
bennabiy, reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/epoptes/+bug/1376552
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07:59
<roy>
hello all :)
08:00
trying to install ltsp on centos 7 - got some bad dependnecies...
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08:26
<Ca11um>
Is it possible to change the desktop wallpaper in Raspi-LTSP?
08:26
Also how would we go about blocking certain default applications, such as Minecraft Pi?
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15:49
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: were you going to work on the ldm-themes packaging soonish?
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16:56
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: I was, yes
16:56
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: i seem to recall last time we tried ldm didn't support .svg, and i don't think that's changed.
16:57
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: then work destroyed all my plans. I'm at a conference today and tomorrow, if there's a boring talk tomorrow I'll get to it. ldm does indeed not support .svg, and it's too late for new features in Debian (as far as I understand), so the images would have to be converted to .png
16:58
vagrantc: other than that there's no feature changes in the ldm-themes package, it will just be images, so I doubt it would be a problem if it still makes it in soon(ish)? I'm looking at having it ready a week from now at the latest
16:58
<vagrantc>
dunno what desktop-base ships
16:58
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: but I don't want to be a bottleneck either, so if there's someone else ready to update it, then please don't let me block
16:59
vagrantc: all kinds of things at the moment. there's suggestions on splitting up theming better, but not sure if there's enough time to actually do that
16:59
(got to run, bbl)
16:59
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: we can wait a bit longer... but not too much :0
16:59
:)
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22:55
<gbaman>
vagrantc: how do groups work with LTSP? I notice they are not in /etc/group on the client?
22:57
i am getting completely different group IDs on the server and the client
22:57
<vagrantc>
they're handled very poorly
22:58
but there is some attempt to handle them
22:58
GID conflicts are highly likely
22:58
it tries to match them up when possible
22:58
but there may even be gid conflicts between the chroot and server.
22:58
it's a non-trivial problem.
23:01
<gbaman>
vagrantc: my main issue is Bindfs uses the IDs... not the names
23:01
which aren't matched
23:01
so fails
23:01
well, actually uses a completely different group
23:02
so I just created a new group (with a custom ID away from any other IDs) and tried it, client seems to know nothing about it, just the number
23:02
no name
23:03
and so no permission