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can anyone help with edubuntu and thin-clients not logging in?
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anyone? really need help getting the thin-clients to authenticate
loginhelp, what error?
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this is from the auth.log
sshd: pam_lwidentify(sshd:auth) PAM config: global:krb5_ccache_type 'FILE'
sshd: pam_lwidentify(sshd:auth): failed to get GP info
sshd: pam_lwidentify(sshd:auth): getting password (0x00000000)
sshd: pam_lwidentify(sshd:auth): request failed
sshd: pam_lwidentify(sshd:auth): User 'xxx' is not known
what kind of authentication are you using?
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try ssh user@serverip from another PC
on the server itself it connects and from another computer using terminal. but it asks about some rsa key
The authenticity of host '192.168.1.11 (192.168.1.11)' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is 26:24:40:d9:cd:27:8f:dc:d6:e6:41:7e:b9:ce:96:21.
but it logs in after accepting
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loginhelp, ltsp-update-sshkeys and rebuild image
yes. done. but still cannot login.
*from the thin-client
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it gave me this
Info: port 2000 is already defined with /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img in inetd.conf
Info: taking no action
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need some help
i got thin clients that stop booting...
it gives me a blinking cursor
can someone help me?
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i'm still trying to figure out how to get it to log on. maybe you can check your server if its still running
u talking with me?
Silvergti: it did happen with me but there was another DHCP server which was not giving a TFTP root
check from which DHCP they are getting the info .
i only have one dhcp
and they get the image from tftp
but when it should give the login screen, it gives a blinking cursor
i can loggin on server via ssh
i really aprecciate any help, it's a production server
"*Setting up LTSP client....
Disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done
Negotiation: Error: Server closed connection"
...and blinking cursor
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where are the localization packages for firefox? My chroot firefox is in English, my server firefox is Portuguese... I tryed to use the same apt repo but them it says the firefox is broken ...
maginot: Ubuntu, right? What does this give you? cat /etc/default/locale /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/locale
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alkisg, /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/locale doesn't exist but I have put the same that is on /etc/default/locale in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/profile
maginot: 8.10 installation with the desktop cd?
OK, a friend of mine had the same problem...
You need to do ltsp-update-image to get the language settings right, but I don't know if you have to install some firefox locales or what...
before on 7.10 and I think that in 8.04 I have pt_br localization packages for firefox... now I cant seen to find them
ltsp-update-image just seting the locale variables doesnt work
I think I have to install some lang package
My friend saw greek interface in firefox only by changing this file and doing ltsp-update-image.... that's what I'm reporting, don't know any more details.
well, I copied locale to chroot location
I will give a try now
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may I ask for some advice?
just ask =)
well, I have deployed an LTSP setup in a high school
with 1 server and 22 clients
what ubuntu version ?
now I would like to add more servers and clients
and would like to keep the management centralized
it is ubuntu 8.04 lternate Cd
what is the best approach?
that depends of what you have in mind ... are you trying to have all users in just one server?
I want users and home dirs be accessible from any client
no, I said I want to add more servers
so that they share the load
it already works with one server-to 22 clients
you know, I have the same question, sparing the load trhough multple servers
I know that you can have several servers each with its own dhcp and serving for the clients that are added in dhcpd.conf
lets see if some of the experts here have anyidea
maginot, ltsp already supports load balancing via get_hosts script, see documentation in the topic
you need shared /home and openLDAP server
I imagine that
cyberorg, there is any need of both servers be using the same ubuntu version ?
here is how it works on opensuse http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Cluster
so basicly is a nfs /home share and a openldap sharing the information
but users will not get same experience when they log into another/older version
may be their settings could get messed up
this is in pipeline http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Fatclient/Cluster, diskless cluster nodes ;)
alkisg, just updating default locale in chroot didnt solved.. I will look a workaround
maginot, very simple load balancing can be done with LDM_SERVER variable in lts.conf
I was going to research that, but since csaba_ come with the question ...
I confess that I did not read all the manual yet, hope to finish this weekend
but, thanks... Im looking the links now
I have two servers here, I was thinking about using the older for something else, but maybe its a good oportunite to make a load balance... I think it good to backup too
start with this first http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
yes, I've print the pdf version
wow, sounds interesting
many thanks , i will look into it
is there a step-by-step like paper on this
perhaps with only the major steps
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csaba_, last link above ^^
the manual is pretty short, you can read all in one afternoon =)
bom saber. mas é melhor manter as conversações sobre o LTSP em inglês. ;)
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alkisg, copyng /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.3/chrome folder to the chroot solved the language problem. =)
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what is spected to happen when using for example LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEM = firefox ?
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if you have: LOCAL_APPS_MENU = True
and LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = firefox
(not ITEM, ITEMS)
and have firefox installed in your chroot
and a recent enough LTSP with localapps activated, your firefox in your menu will be a local one instead of a remote one
stgraber, Does LOCAL_APPS_MENU = True work with kiwi-ltsp? Also do you put that in the lts.conf?
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bud313, it should, if it does not there is a bug somewhere, after all LTSP is exactly same on all distros
cyberorg, Awesome I will try it right now.
bud313, you wont have to install firefox, it is already installed and you should have all plugins available too :)
bud313, you can add note to this http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Localapps after your test
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bud313, how much download remaining?
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cyberorg, I am at 87%
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during installation with ubuntu alternate CD (LTSP server) I got an error saying that I have to config manually the devices DHCP should listen on eth0, how should I modify /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to do so?
benste, I don't have enough knowledge to help you directly but does this page help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943518
bud313 I'll try when I get back my GUI :-)
I know typically when I have a problem when setting up a dhcp server it is just that their isn't a network face setup with the correct ip addresss. Then I just configure one and restart dhcp
benste: you only have 1 nic? the alternate cd assumes you have 2 nics...
alkisg I use only one NIC - cause I'm runinng all in a VM
i remeber from previous version that I just had to insert one line somthing with listen on eth0
stgraber, I have everything you said ... but starting from menu is not loading localy ...
benste: no, you just have to use a static ip and ensure that the dhcp ranges in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf are within this ip subnet
benste: but you could also use 2 nics in the vm and everything would be done automatically...
it wasn't auto configured in 8.10 using one eth0 and wlan0
but hold on a minute, I'm just trying to get my GUI back :-)
I think wlan doesn't count, it needs two ethX... k
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alkisg: got it in the forum:
# On what interfaces should the DHCP server (dhcpd) serve DHCP requests? # Separate multiple interfaces with spaces, e.g. "eth0 eth1". INTERFACES="eth0"
is necaesarry :-)
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Yeah, ok, too late for him to listen that this is wrong...
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|14:57||* vagrantc will be tagging ltspfs-trunk shortly|
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although i noticed some uncommitted code i had lying around ... hmmm... maybe not.
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|15:08||* Gadi waves to vagrantc|
Gadi: finally getting around to hopefully uploading your last ltspfs commits to debian :)
just gotta test my one patch, and then i'll upload.
Gadi: though it still doesn't work properly with localmounts and cdpinger
hey, do you have any LTSP servers out there running in VMs?
serving up to real users?
Gadi: only on VMs
all xen, for the real users
any limitations imposed by the VM that may cap the number of users?
|15:09||* vagrantc was hoping to upgrade those to virtual users as well, someday|
Gadi: not that i'm aware of
I know that, for example, vmware server can only use 2 CPUs
and others have limits on network throughput
i use all xen, virtualbox, and occasionally qemu ... all of which don't tend to put arbitrary limits on things.
its not software limits I am worried about
it is technical limits of the VM engine
xen doesn't have a limit on CPUs, for sure. you can even specify more virtual CPUs than you actually have.
in other words, don't use a VM that sees only 2 CPU cores on a quad-core Xeon
if you've got a quad-core xeon, my guess is KVM would be your best bet, though i haven't tried it.
since we don't get much, if any hardware that has the in-hardware virtualization support
yeah - unfortunately, the tools for the lay-admin are lacking
"vagrantc" pasted "one last ltspfs patch before upload, hopefully" (30 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/297
Gadi: how's that look to you? ^^
Gadi: i'm very happy with xen
but maybe the tools for it aren't the sort of tools you're looking for
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1st: code looks good and definitely shorter
I would keep some comments, tho
just so we know what we're doing there
i tried to keep the comments, but i guess i didn't keep enough
2nd: with the VM stuff, I'm looking for something easy to administer and easy to teach others to administer
Gadi: 2nd: namely, GUI interfaces?
but easy cli is ok
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Gadi: suggestions for improving the comments?
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I guess those comments are good
go for it
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tagged and pushed ltspfs 0.5.11 ...
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vagrantc: was it only cdpinger that it didn't like? were floppies and USB ok?
|15:57||* Gadi forgets already|
Gadi: didn't test USB or floppies
i may have tested at some point
but forget also
i'll test after i upload, since it's a non-default feature anyways.
maybe we can fix it then, too
|15:58||* vagrantc loves uploading 3 new upstream versions in a single day|
|15:58||* Gadi noticed a lot of tagging|
have there been changes between these tags?
or are they only for pkging purposes?
Ryan52 did a bunch of minimal to non-changes
i also did a tag of ltsp that only really added a single language translation
did rounds of translation updates for ldm and ltsp
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and finally got cyberorg's patches in upstream
the NOMAD stuff
but overall, everything has been pretty stable.
that means we aren't doing our job
I guess thats why we need a hackfest
it's working too well- quick, let's break things!
the way of the world, my friend
stupid stable software, nothing to point your finger at
|16:07||* vagrantc suspects there are pleny of bugs in ltsp|
See that's microsoft's whole thing! fix stuff, then break stuff. Sell the broken stuff, get people to complain, release SP1.
I think we should adopt that marketing plan
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seem to be experiencing problems with remote pulseaudio in debian/testing ...
just booted a thin client on squeeze and it started squealing horrendously
my laptop does that for all sound since I dist-upgraded :( (I only do that every few months, tho)
i noticed that sound wasn't working in virtualbox ...
so maybe it's unrelated.
|18:40||* vagrantc tries the same setup with lenny|
but at least the server part works...my (other) squeezish server is plugged into my speakers, and my fedora system plays music through it.
and I copied and pasted the pulse audio command directly from ltsp's source ;)
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there were some fairly recent changes added to the pulseaudio commandline options ... not sure if it's related or not.
always a good idea to test with real hardware ...
hrm. well the squealing sounds still happen with ltsp 5.1.64 on lenny ...
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|18:57||* vagrantc looks up the changes ...|
|18:59||* vagrantc wonders if it is ltsp-trunk 1142 ...|
might also be the recent changes with the dynamic volume setting code ...
even kicks in with SOUND=False
seems to be setting all channels to 90% volume is the culprit
setting VOLUME=10 worked without squeal
ah, it's the MIC channel.
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|19:13||* Ryan52 thinks that that should default to zero..|
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hey guys, i'd like to have my mother's computer run as a thin client using my computer as the server, is it possible to do this without my computer running a dhcp server?
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how to do ltsp5 on debian5.0 lenny without internet connection?
when i try to run
ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
it gives the following error:
NOTE: adding default dist and components to security mirror:
http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Release.gpg
E: Failed getting release signature file file:///cdrom/dists/lenny/Release.gpg
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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ibmanoj: you made a post to ltsp-discuss? i'm replying to one now.
thank u sir
ibmanoj: i prefer to keep all discussions public, so that others can benefit from the content
ok,new to irc
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vagrantc: would it be horrible for us to put a debian mirror in all of the pkg-ltsp debian/watch files?
|22:24||* Ryan52 doesn't like the "upstream found version is lower than version in unstable (a bug in the watch file?)"|
Ryan52: it won't work anyways
Ryan52: well, it will work from the commandline, but not for DEHS
|22:27||* vagrantc is using a thin client to fsck an external USB drive ...|
what about DDPO?
or will it completely break DEHS?
Ryan52: what's DDPO ? :)
i believe that just polls DEHS
Ryan52: what i've noticed is that even when fedora or ubuntu has a newer version, DEHS just grabs the first one it finds.
|22:31||* vagrantc still pines for an upstream upload location|
|22:32||* Ryan52 would like that very much|
|22:32||* Ryan52 thinks that it could even be automated from when the repo is tagged..|
or we could make something like "sf.net" or githubredir.debian.net...tho that's overkill for us :)
Ryan52: something that polls the various *-trunk branches, and puts up a URL that we can grab wouldn't be too difficult.
Ryan52: i've filed bugs to be able to do that with launchpad
hrm. the ltspfs local mounting still behaves wonky.
|22:35||* vagrantc suspects some race condition|
it also wouldn't be too difficult to just make a place for upstream tarballs ;)
Ryan52: well, fedora doesn't even use tarballs, does it?
yes it does.
bzip2, but ya.
|22:36||* vagrantc wonders why warren gave me a url to a different location|
it at least gives me the ability to poll, but didn't have a tarball that i could look at.
maybe the tarball is buried inside a .srpm or something?
until you're allowed to use format 3.0 it doesn't really matter, does it?
Ryan52: makes it hard to give it a URL for uscan
hm. lemme check where it's downloadable from.
there's makefile targets that automate this all, so I don't pay much attention to it ;)
|22:41||* vagrantc ponders uploading ltspfs 0.5.11-2 to experimental to resolve the one outstanding bug: http://bugs.debian.org/454478|
well, the one reported bug ...
strange, strange structure..
that's what you're using?
that's what i'm using
what warren told me to use
ya. the second one is what's been uploaded, the first one is what's been uploaded to the binary source file repository.
but the URL you have looks better.
|22:44||* Ryan52 thinks that this whole|
thing is strange
key question is how often will it change format.
warren assured me the kojipkgs URL wouldn't change much, if ever
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he probably only said that because a script he uses on his VPS uses it and he complains really loudly. :)
debian's ahead of all the other distros in upstream versions for once
of course, only in unstable
why haven't you uploaded the new ltspfs?
Ryan52: just uploaded today
it's current with trunk
o i c
i didn't upload ltspfs 0.5.10, because it had a number of regressions from 0.5.9, and i wanted to ensure they were fixed before uploading.
and they weren't I take it? :)
and they're fixed in 0.5.11 ... though local mounting still has some wonkiness, it's less wonky than 0.5.10
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how to give more than one mirror in the ltsp-build-client command?
ibmanoj: --early-mirror and --extra-mirror
each take a comma-separated list of mirrors ... i.e. --extra-mirror 'http://foo.bar/debian lenny main,http://baz.bat/something-else UNRELEASED/'
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copied iso images of debian 5.0 DVDs and mounted on /mnt/iso1,/mnt/iso2........./mnt/iso5.how to give the ltsp-build-client command?
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ibmanoj: ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///mnt/iso1 --extra-mirror file:///mnt/iso2,file:///mnt/iso3,file:///mnt/iso4,file:///mnt/iso5 --security-mirror none
ibmanoj: you might also have to add --accept-unsigned-packages, if the DVD's do not have Release.gpg files
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