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Channel log from 24 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<rjune>
cliebow_:
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<a5benwillis>
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Good Morning. When I connect to SSH and enter my password the "prompt" is never displayed. It just sits there on the client side. When I check the auth.log on the server I see that the login was authenticated successfully. The last thing in the log is "do_pam_account: called".
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Anyone have an idea where to look?
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<JREwing>
hello, may I ask here for help? for two days Iam fighting with configuration of LTSP client
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<jammcq>
sure, go ahead and ask your question
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<JREwing>
thanks.. Iam near of fully functional client, but i have problem with Keybord.. It works fine in command line, but if start X session, keyboard become inactive
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<jammcq>
how is your mouse connected ?
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<JREwing>
my mouse and keyboard is USB
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<jammcq>
hmm
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what do you have in lts.conf ?
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<JREwing>
[Default]
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SERVER=192.168.0.150
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XF86CONFIG_FILE=/etc/xorg.conf
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XSERVER=vesa
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X_MODE_0=1024x768
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X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL="ExplorerPS/2"
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X_MOUSE_DEVICE="/dev/input/mice"
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X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION=400
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<mistik1>
wow
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<JREwing>
X_MOUSE_BUTTONS=3
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USE_XFS=N
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SCREEN_01= startx
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SCREEN_02= shell
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SOUND=N
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USE_NFS_SWAP=Y
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SWAP_SERVER=192.168.0.150
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NFS_SWAPDIR=/opt/ltsp/swap
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RUNLEVEL=5
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XKBMODEL="pc105"
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XKBLAYOUT="us"
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<jammcq>
why do you have a special XF86CONFIG_FILE ?
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<jammcq>
why do you have a special XF86CONFIG_FILE ?
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<JREwing>
I had to make my own xorg.conf because my monitor can use much better resolution then my graphic card can have..
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it is full xorg.conf
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<jammcq>
ok, do you realize that when you use a xorg.conf file, it completely ignores all other X settings in lts.conf ?
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there's no point in saying things like : X_MOUSE_DEVICE="/dev/input/mice"
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<JREwing>
even mouse and keyboard settings?
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<mistik1>
yes
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<JREwing>
I thought only graphic is override?
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<jammcq>
yes, all those X_ settings are used to construct a xorg config file during boot up. By you specifying your own config file
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you are responsible for ALL things related to X
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keyboard and mouse are all part of the Xorg.conf file
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so, if your keyboard isn't working, maybe you've not defined a keyboard section in your xorg.conf file
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what kind of video card do you have?
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<JREwing>
so there are two solutions, I need to force an autodetect to use less resolution or find mistake in xorg.conf
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<jammcq>
what resolution do you want?
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<JREwing>
I use vesa driver, I dond know the type of card because I have thinclient box with AMD geoder processor
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<jammcq>
what resolution do you want?
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<JREwing>
I want 1024x768
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<jammcq>
that's the default
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<JREwing>
if i place X_MODE_0 to lts.conf, it was ignored
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<jammcq>
you didn't get 1024x768 before trying your own xorg.conf ?
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it's ignored now, because you have a XF86CONFIG_FILE entry
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<JREwing>
still use max resolution ( the monitor resolution is 1600x1200 for max )
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<jammcq>
and for geode, you probably don't want 'vesa', you probably want 'nsc'
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<JREwing>
that was the reason of my xorg.conf file, I've try it without, but have 1600x1200 screen
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<jammcq>
so try without, and set XSERVER = nsc
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and X_MODE_0 = 1024x768
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<JREwing>
so, I'll try
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<jammcq>
so ok :)
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btw, i've NEVER seen a geode do better than 1280x1024
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<JREwing>
autodetect give me a vesa driver
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yes, this is the max resolution, but monitor can more
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<jammcq>
try 'nsc' instead of 'vesa'
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<JREwing>
by the way, this thin client si wonderful thing.. it need only 10W for work
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so, screen is now usable, but keyboard is still dead :-/
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<jammcq>
take out those 'XKB...' lines. English is the default for ltsp
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<JREwing>
:-(
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<JREwing>
still the same
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<a5benwillis>
hi people
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<erdinc>
hi everyoner
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<zald>
hi how do i customize all the application running on ltsp client?
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<a5benwillis>
Anybody around
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<JREwing>
yep
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<a5benwillis>
Still looking for help with this nss, pam, ssh issue
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<a5benwillis>
About to post a questino to who ever may be listening! LOL
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.
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I need help with an NSS, PAM, NCP with SSH issue. Im using an NSS/NCP module in my nsswitch.conf file to do a user lookup on an NDS server.
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When I try to log in via SSH the user is found with the NSS module, authenticated via an NCP so module but I still can't log on.
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I see in the /var/auth.log file that the user is successfully authenticated.
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.
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The last message I get in my auth.log is
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-ssd[6995]: debug1: do_pam_account: called
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.
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When this happens the ssh client side accepts the password and just sits there.
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.
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Eventually another error is logged in auth.log
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-Fatal: Timeout before authentication for 127.0.0.1
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<freemindx>
jammcq are you there?
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<msaul>
Is there anyone that can walk me thru LDA?
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I'm running Edubuntu 6.10
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<msaul>
Hey Jim, how are you?
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<jammcq>
hey msaul
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<msaul>
You got to come up to TO again!
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<jammcq>
yeah
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<msaul>
It's been a while!
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<jammcq>
in fact, I'll be in TO on thursday
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<msaul>
What are you doing?
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Can you visit Seneca?
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<jammcq>
scotty and I are getting together for a small hack-fest
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<msaul>
cool
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I would like to show you sometime what
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ltsp has done around TO
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<jammcq>
turns out Toronto is a good location. I can drive there easily, and scott can fly there easily
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we'll be pretty busy
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<msaul>
Next Time?
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<jammcq>
sure
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we should plan on it
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<msaul>
I have set up lab in TO
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<jammcq>
cool
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<msaul>
Students are learning Java
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on their machines
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I have Dr. Java (a learning tool on the system)
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<jammcq>
heh, Java, the COBOL of the 90's
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<msaul>
John Selmys is involved with 2-3 other highschools
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I'm setting up LTSP for a church in Orangeville
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I can take pictures and send to you if you wish
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It is picking up here a lot!
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<jammcq>
better, I'd like you to post a story on the SuccessStories page on our wiki
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<msaul>
Will Do
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<jammcq>
it's picking up in lots of places
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just heard about stuff going on in South Africa
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<msaul>
Can't keep a good idea down
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cool
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Are you good at troubleshooting LDA?
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<jammcq>
well, I know how to point you to the troubleshooting guide
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<msaul>
I got a Pentium III with a Pentium IV server running Edubuntu 6.10
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<jammcq>
but are you using LTSP-4.2 or are you using the LTSP that comes with Edubuntu ?
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<msaul>
The LTSP that comes with Edubuntu
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Sound is perfect
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I read the wiki
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<jammcq>
umm, seems like its just a matter of setting an option in lts.conf
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but i'm not sure
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<msaul>
I did add the two lines
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<vagrantc>
and adding a user to the fuse group
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<jammcq>
that's what next weekend is for, for me and scotty to get up to speed with the Ubuntu and Debian work
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: i thought thats what the september shindig was for :P
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<msaul>
LOCAL_DEVICE_01= and LOCAL_DEVICE_02= etc
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: yeah, some how, I've been too busy lately, to keep up with it
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<msaul>
I also set HOTPLUG = Y
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<jammcq>
msaul: I think those are all OLD settings
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vagrantc: do you know what to set in lts.conf ?
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<vagrantc>
LOCALDEV=True
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<msaul>
OK, that's it?
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<vagrantc>
think so
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<msaul>
Do I bother with the LDA scripts?
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<jammcq>
scripts ?
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<msaul>
In the wiki
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<jammcq>
that's old stuff
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pre LTSP-4.2 stuff
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<msaul>
So I take that out and just use that setting you just gave?
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in lts.conf
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<jammcq>
ummm
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I think so. I'm pretty sure that ogra already included everything you need
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<msaul>
That makes sense - a colleage said
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<vagrantc>
msaul: and add your users to the fuse group ... theres a page somewhere on the ubuntu wikis about it
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<msaul>
OK - will do
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Thanks for the help...
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I will try those excellent suggestions
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Jim
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Lets discuss to get you guys up to TO in October
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That conference is getting really big now
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It goes over 2 - 3 days
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<a5benwillis>
whats the fuse group????
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<jammcq>
msaul: what's the date ?
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<msaul>
That conference is really taking on a life of its own
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I'll get back to that and e-mail you.
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asap
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<vagrantc>
a5benwillis: its a unix group that, at least on debian and ubuntu, provides access to use fuse filesystems.
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a5benwillis: and ltspfs is a fuse filesystem
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<jammcq>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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<msaul>
Thanks - I wll bookmark that
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Got it.
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I hear Edubuntu is coming out with 7.-- in April
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<jammcq>
7 ?
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<msaul>
Bad memory - just let me check my e-mail for a sec
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<vagrantc>
that would be 7.04 ... as it's (200)7.04(april)
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<jammcq>
yeah
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<msaul>
yes 7.04
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John Selmys was just talking about that...
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well thanks for that great help
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Perhaps I can give you a tour of Orangeville when you come up
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I will get back to you on the dates.
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You visit and your presentation was very well received
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In fact, it was at the
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point that the conference
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started to really take-off!
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<jammcq>
cool
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<msaul>
I remember you handing out the
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device to let people see it and
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<jammcq>
toronto is easy to get to, but october is a pretty busy time for me
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<msaul>
joked, "don't let that thing go out the door!"
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I'll get a firm date
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<jammcq>
k
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<msaul>
all the best - have a great night!
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<jammcq>
thanks, you too
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<msaul>
l8r
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<andersonpaul2005>
hello, is anyone here?
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<a5benwillis>
i am, kinda
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<andersonpaul2005>
hi there, i was wondering if anyone could help with an x11 problem
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<a5benwillis>
hiya mistik1
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mistik1: Hi
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andersonpaul2005: Whats the problem exactly?
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<andersonpaul2005>
sorry, i have k12ltsp version 6 installed, x11 was working fine
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then I did something with the display settings, and I hosed my vnc connection to the server
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it just comes up with an X, and whole screen of little x's
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no login box,
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<jammcq>
is the screen gray
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<Bhaskar>
hello everybody, any success story of deployment of LTSP in any School, college
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<jammcq>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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Bhaskar: tons of success stories
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go visit the SuccessStories page on the wiki:
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SuccessStories
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<a5benwillis>
jammcq: I was looking for that link for him :)
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the grayscreen one
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<jammcq>
hmm, something happened to our SuccessStories page
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<andersonpaul2005>
thanks, i will check it out
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<jammcq>
we had about 50 stories, now it's about 6
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<andersonpaul2005>
I am working on a school success story, if I can ever get it all figured out!
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Morris Brandon elementary is a good success story
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<Bhaskar>
andersonpaul2005, in which school
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<andersonpaul2005>
I am in Hayward, Wisconsin
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<Bhaskar>
andersonpaul2005, how many client in that server
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andersonpaul2005, can u give me hardware config of server
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<andersonpaul2005>
I am using an hp dc5100, 2GB ram, (2 year old computer) for my demo server
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<Bhaskar>
HD,processor?
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<andersonpaul2005>
200 GB Hd, I think 2GHz processor?
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<jammcq>
ok, SuccessStories page is fixed
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some knucklehead removed most of the stories when they posted their own
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<andersonpaul2005>
just want to demo the unit with 5 clients or so, it is working fine booting with pxe, but not when trying to use vnc
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thats when I get the gray screen
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<a5benwillis>
Im running a dual xeon 3.6ghz, 6gb ram
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but I plan to have multiple ltsp's running on that hardware. IF I ever get this authentication problem fixed...
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<jammcq>
ok, i'm heading to bed. G'night everyone
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<a5benwillis>
night
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<vagrantc>
!grayscreen
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
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<andersonpaul2005>
I only get the gray screen when trying to connect to the server with vnc? would this still apply?
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<vagrantc>
hmmm...
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depends on how vnc is starting its session ...
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<andersonpaul2005>
it was working with the default settings, then I changed something in ithe Display (on server) and then it quit working
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all i did when it was working, is used vnc, put in address and login screen came up?
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<vagrantc>
in my limited experience with vnc, you have to start a session, which you then can connect/disconnect to ...
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<andersonpaul2005>
i think I will try to install to another drive and see if I can figure what files got changed
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