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Channel log from 21 June 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<Pascal_1>
bonjour
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<KingstonAsus767>
hello
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I have a problem with ltsp in edubuntu 8.04
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can anyone give some ideas?
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I have installed edubuntu 8.04 in a greek classroom
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and the problem is tha even though
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the server supports fully greek
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all the clients cannot change language between english-greek
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strange thing is that: gdm appears in english
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at all clients but in greek in the server
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I have thought to downgrade in edubuntu 7.10
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because I didn't have tha issue
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any ideas ?
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<happywithltsp>
hi, I just finished installing LTSP via alternate CD for 64 architecture and need some help
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I have done this before for Edubuntu 7.04, but things have changed quite a bit
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Anyone willing to help for a few minutes?
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Is Ogra around?
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<laga>
just ask a question :)
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<happywithltsp>
Sure here it goes
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I used alternate CD for LTSP install on a 64bit machine
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I want to use this for my lab, not just a classroom
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my lab has multiple architectures, i386, 86=64 and PowerPC
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My server has two nics
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Both nics connect directly to Router
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Actually through gigabit switch
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all other machines connect in same manner via gigabit switch
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I would like to have the option to either start all the machines as clients
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but not as dedicated clients
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in other words, I want the other machines to start other OS as a BIOS option
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<laga>
well, that should be possible. i guess they'll have a hard disk with that other OS
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<happywithltsp>
To test this on an i386
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I did a "sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386"
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but after I turn on the client machine I get the DHCP trying to connect, but it fails
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First question:
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<ogra>
you cant connect both NICs to the same router
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<happywithltsp>
I see,
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Should I just unplug one?
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<ogra>
also make sure to not have a second dhcpd running in your network
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<happywithltsp>
I can turn off the dhcp from the router
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, but should I disconnect one of the nics from the network?
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Or should I do a "Internet --- Router ---- LTSP Server ---- Switch ---- Other computers"
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<ogra>
right
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, when is the meeting you need the praise for on the wiki ?
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<happywithltsp_>
Ok, I turned off the DCHP from the router
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Let me try again
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, also dont hesitate to ask cr3 for more, i guess he has some good words about your contributions
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<laga>
Q-FUNK: you applying for MOTU?
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: I haven't scheduled myself yet.
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<ogra>
KingstonAsus767, 7.10 definately has that issue too, ldm (the display manager used for logins in ltsp) just got translated now
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<Q-FUNK>
laga: for ubuntu member.
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<laga>
nice.
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i should do that, too.
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<ogra>
KingstonAsus767, translaed ldm wont be in ubuntu before 8.10
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laga, !!!
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you aent already ?
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<laga>
no
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<ogra>
*arent
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tsk
07:07* ogra shakes head
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<laga>
well, it doesn't really have any advantages for me
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<ogra>
you can annunce your cool stuff on planet
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have an ubuntu.com address
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<Q-FUNK>
these days, I spend more time on ubuntu that debian, so I figured that I might as well become a member.
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<ogra>
a cloak on IRC
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etc
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<laga>
ogra: i already have a nice "cloak" and an email address ;)
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that's why i haven't applied so far, but i guess i'll just do nit
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<ogra>
hey, and members get more hugs :)
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<laga>
heh
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<ogra>
that should be a definate reason
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<laga>
yay, geek hugs :)
07:12* ogra grins about fedora copying andscape
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<ogra>
*landscape
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for the fact that "ubuntu doesnt give back" fedroda copies quite a lot of our concepts *g*
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<Q-FUNK>
*g*
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I guess it's called "the GPL"
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<laga>
dear launchpad. please be more usable. love, laga
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<ogra>
well, landscape is a nonfree service canonical lives of
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seems they grabbed the free parts of it and desiged their own backend
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but it looks pretty identical
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http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/
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<Q-FUNK>
heck, even the name as a soyuz sound to it
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has..
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<ogra>
yeah, indeed
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<KingstonAsus767>
orga: thank you very much, does that include and the keyboard switching between greek-english?
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ogra: thank you very much, does that include and the keyboard switching between greek-english?
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<ogra>
no, thats unrelated to UI translations
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you should be able to add the right lts.conf values for that with the XKB_OPTIONS variable or so
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/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz has a list of valid variables
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<KingstonAsus767>
oh
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I thing I tried
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https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPClientKeymap
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I tried instead of
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de
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to use
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gr
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or even
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us.gr
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but it didn't work
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<ogra>
well, gr should have worked
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but not switchable without extra options indeed
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<KingstonAsus767>
for my X server
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I use
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Option "XkbLayout" "us,gr"
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Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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<ogra>
using: XKBLAYOUT="us,gr" XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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in lts.conf should help then
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<KingstonAsus767>
i see, dont I have to
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update image or recreate the client?
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<ogra>
no
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make sure to use lts.conf in the right place then you dont need to touch the image for changes in the config file
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<KingstonAsus767>
I thing that
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<ogra>
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<KingstonAsus767>
"/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf"
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<ogra>
if you keep the file there you dont need to update the image
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<KingstonAsus767>
is deprecated...
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ohhhhhhhhh
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perfect......
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<ogra>
well, you can use it, but its no fun ro re-roll the image for every minor change :)
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so the tftpboot dir is the better option
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<KingstonAsus767>
yes I know.... , I have drunk many coffees until now... :)
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ogra can I ask you one more thing?
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I want all the clients
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in resolution 800x600
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because the monitors are old
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anu tutorial online?
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I cant hear my students, talling about their eyes anymore... :)
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<ogra>
X_MODE_0="800x600"
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<KingstonAsus767>
I cant hear my students, telling about their eyes anymore... :)
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<ogra>
should suffice
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<KingstonAsus767>
in the same file?
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<ogra>
try that in the default section of the file
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yeah
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<KingstonAsus767>
oh.......
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perfect...,
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I have things to try on monday...
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<ogra>
note you need at least [default] t the top of the file for the vars to take effect
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<KingstonAsus767>
thank you very much ogra....
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<ogra>
i.e.:
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[default]
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X_MODE_0="800x600"
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XKBLAYOUT="us,gr"
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XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,eurosign:e"
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like that
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this will then apply to all clients
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<KingstonAsus767>
perfect....
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so to understand in general
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"/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf"
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overrides the default variables ?
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for the clients?
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<ogra>
if you want seztings for a single client add a section below with the MAC address in angled brackets (just like the default section)
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right
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<KingstonAsus767>
perfect....
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ltsp is fantastic software....
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<ogra>
:)
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<KingstonAsus767>
my manager when he heard that he doesnt have to replace 10 old
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machines....
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he had a smile bigger that his face... :)
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<ogra>
hehe
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<xTs>
good evening.
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is there a way to forward a serial port over the network?
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<vagrantc>
xTs: not trivially
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xTs: what exactly do you need it for?
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there are a number of applications that deal with various serial hardware, if that's what it's needed for.
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if it's raw serial support, not sure.
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<xTs>
its for this kind of configuration: serial printer on thinclient in the basement and you should be able to print remotely
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<wwx>
ser2net
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<xTs>
thanks, will have a look at it
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<wwx>
http://ser2net.sourceforge.net/
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<xTs>
already found it, thanks
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<wwx>
hm. only printer?
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<xTs>
and a measuring device
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raw serial support would be best, including a virtual device
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<wwx>
raw support over tcp is a bit problematic
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<xTs>
timing?
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<wwx>
no, control (setting baud rate, bits etc)
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for printing only you can make simple hp etherjet "emulator" with netcat
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<xTs>
i dont know if this would work, because this is not a regular printer
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<wwx>
something like: nc -l -p 9100 > /dev/printer
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mhm. you can try
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<xTs>
http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public/us/us/en/model_top/p-touch/9200eus.html?reg=us&c=us&lang=en&prod=9200eus
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<wwx>
at least this is what i used here this with cups (remote printer defined as HP JetDirect)
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<xTs>
will try this, too
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thank you and good night
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<Japerry-cell>
I need to get an ssh terminal for the blackberry
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<laga>
yeah?
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this is probably not the correct channel, tho
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<Japerry-cell>
Lol tis true wrong channel. the irc client is sort wanky
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Heh I was thinking if I could then I could work on devel while in the sun
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<laga>
ssh over GPRS/GSM isn't exactly fun
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i use pssh on my treo
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for IRC ;)
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<Japerry-cell>
Hmm yah thus is jmirc.. On verizon thou
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<rjune>
ping
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<vagrantc>
pong
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<rjune>
thanks vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
anytime
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<mistik1>
japerry: Try MidpSSH
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<japerry>
mistik1: hey thanks for the suggestion! downloading
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mistik1: aww hmm on the 8830 d/l fails I'll have to test some things and see what I can do. thanks again for the link though
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<mistik1>
np
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japerry: Its what I used on my 8600
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<japerry>
hmm okay. the development or stable? and midp2.0 or 1.0?
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the dev version midp2 and 1 don't seem to work. at least not the full bundle
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<mistik1>
I was using 1.5.6
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<japerry>
hmm odd
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<mistik1>
there are some other non free clients too
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Idokorro Mobile SSH is another
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<mistik1>
I think they give you like 20 or so free connections
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<Japerry-cell>
907 Invalid JAR
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Error!: control flow verification information too large: a
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<japerry>
^^ thats what I got :-/
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and then the error ran out :-P oh well I'll give idokorro a try
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