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Channel log from 7 April 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<mum>
how to set default homepage in ltsp when we open frefox browser
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<alkisg>
It's the same as without ltsp
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<mum>
but i wanted to set in ltsp for all user
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<alkisg>
Did the fstab thing work?
00:18
If you're using the kiosk plugin, just set KIOSK_OPTIONS in lts.conf to the page you want.
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<mum>
we are trying with fstab
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and what is this kisk plugin
00:25
where to set ?
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how to set it ?
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we want ur support
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<alkisg>
I think you need to write down a paragraph about your setup, so that people here know what are you trying to do, and how
00:27
E.g. I thought some days ago you said that you are using the kiosk plugin
00:27
If you're now asking "what is this", then you're obviously not using it
00:27
So I don't know how you present a local firefox to your users.
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And *if* you want, stop changing names, because people then don't know that you're the same user using the same setup that you described
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<mum>
allkisg : m using kiosk plugin but m asking about how to set that KIOSK_OPTION in lts.conf to the page
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<alkisg>
mum, did you read the ltsp docs?
00:34
Also, here's the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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<mum>
k
00:34
i will read ...u got my problem or u want more explanation from my side
00:35
because we really want ltsp in our production
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<alkisg>
What I understood is this: you're using the kiosk plugin with Ubuntu 9.10, then point your users to a specific web page where a java applet presents them some kind of remote desktop solution
00:36
If that's accurate, then I got your problem. If not, nope.
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<mum>
yes exacly
00:37
exactly
00:38
now after that we want local hardisk of user to be shown in that desktop
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<alkisg>
sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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Put there the following:
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[Default]
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SCREEN_02=shell
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SCREEN_07=kiosk
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KIOSK_OPTIONS="the web page you want"
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For the kiosk plugin to be working, I assume you already have put stuff there
00:39
So I wonder why you were asking on how to edit lts.conf...
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<knipwim>
hmm, i don't see the KIOSK_OPTIONS in the lts.conf man page though ...
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<mum>
no i haven't put these thing u wrote above ,,, i putte only LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=false
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after [default]
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thats y m asking what are the thing i need to put over there
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<alkisg>
mum, ok, try what I said above
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<mum>
k
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<alkisg>
knipwim: well, it's not the only undocumented option :)
00:49* alkisg doesn't even know who wrote the kiosk plugin, but yeah it needs documentation
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<mum>
k
00:52
let me try with this
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if it works ...
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<mum>
alkisg: i have done whatever u said but it is not working
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<alkisg>
mum, what is not working? the home page?
02:13
<mum>
no local hardisk
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<alkisg>
Did you put SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf?
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<mum>
home page also not comming we are putting manually
02:13
yes i put
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<alkisg>
Then press alt+ctrl+f2 on the thin client
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Do you get a shell?
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<mum>
that i din't try it
02:15
you want to check my configuration if u can
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<alkisg>
Try it it now, press alt+ctrl+f2 on the thin client
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<mum>
u mean to say when i get firefox , i need to put alt-ctrl+f2
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<alkisg>
Yes
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<mum>
k
02:16
let me check
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02:20
<mum>
alkisg : m getting console
02:20
now tell me what i do
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<alkisg>
cat /etc/fstab
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Is this the fstab you created?
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If you seat on that thin client, do you have internet access?
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If so, you can browse to "/etc/fstab" from within firefox, so that you can then paste here
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file:///etc/fstab
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<mum>
ya i can browse
02:25
it is showing drive
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<alkisg>
OK, paste your fstab then
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<mum>
to u
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<alkisg>
Here
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<mum>
.
02:28Last message repeated 1 time(s).
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<mum>
dev
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dev/root / unionfs defaults 0 0
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tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 0
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this is m getting here
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<alkisg>
So it's not the fstab you created
02:29
That's why it doesn't work.
02:29
Now try something else, in the console
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mkdir /media/disk
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mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
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Those commands manually mount your drive
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<mum>
k but it is having localhardisk which is also not comming
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<alkisg>
See if it shows up on your java desktop after those
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<yassinet>
hello
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i need help about ltsp cluster
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some one can explain me the diff role of ltsp cluster
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and the architecture of implemontation
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please !
03:06
where is the community !!
03:20
<knipwim>
https://www.ltsp-cluster.org/documentation/technical-introduction
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<mum>
m not able to see the local hardisk on desktop
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alkiisg : how to do that let me know
03:35
<alkisg>
(01:33:26 PM) mum: m able to see the localdisk
03:35
So u r able or not?
03:35
Anyway, /me needs to do some work. Later...
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<mum>
#ulteo
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<_UsUrPeR_>
goooood morning all
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<evil_root>
morning
05:26
<_UsUrPeR_>
a quandry: where does the LTSP client get it's username/password from upon boot if ldm_autologin is set to "yes"?
05:26
I want to change the hostnames assigned to the clients.
05:27
instead of ltspxxx
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and using LDM_USERNAME=<something> for each client in the lts.conf is a pain :/
05:33
<muppis>
Do you have any pattern to use in usernames?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
muppis: yeah, all names start with css
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<Hyperbyte>
Hmm... I've had some people complaining that their audio on the LTSP terminal sounds 'hollow', compared to their IP telephony on Windows before... anybody any idea what could cause this?
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<anivair>
So i'm hoping someone can give me a hand. My server is up and running, but the connection is really iffy. It will stutter and play catch up. It's like I'm getting weird network lag.
08:53
I'm watching the processor and it looks good
08:53
but things are still moving at a crawl here.
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<anivair>
any suggestions would be appreciated.
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<anivair>
it's a lot like my network is playing catchup.
09:13
it's happening on the server, but it doesn't get to the clients as it should
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<anivair>
ouch ... i'm getting terribly slow network times. if I ping from my ltsp server to my desktop, i get anywhere from 5 to 100 ms.
09:19
from another machine right next to it on the network, i get 0.2.
09:20
pings TO the ltsp server are equally slow.
09:20
WTF
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<anivair>
nevermind ... nic card.
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<Hyperbyte>
Heheheh
10:33
<Roasted_>
when I change the IP address of the server, do I have to edit any files to specifically link the images over for the thin clients?
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<tastle73>
anybody ever have trouble with the dlws 1220 and ubuntu 10.04 ltsp?
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<knipwim>
wow, there's even a specific ltsp manual for it
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<tastle73>
I think it is actually the stupid acer monitor
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<anivair>
Anyone happen to know what this means?
11:28
ltsp1:~$ sudo ltsp-update-image Error: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist.
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<abeehc>
/opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist ?
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<anivair>
well, i get that
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<abeehc>
i figured
11:31
does it exist?
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<anivair>
it doesn't, but I'm not sure if that error means that the update failed
11:32
<abeehc>
nah i think that scripts expects the chroot to exist in the first place
11:32
if not it doesn't do anything;' did you already do ltsp-build-image?
11:32
<anivair>
i'm getting a "no response from server" error
11:33
so I did an upsate-sshkeys
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and then an update image
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(is that not the uisual order?)
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<abeehc>
yeah that sounds right
11:37
<anivair>
sadly, still no login
11:37
<abeehc>
once you update image you do need to rebvoot the client i imagine you know that
11:37
<anivair>
I do
11:37
<abeehc>
i guess you have unlocked shell on the client?
11:37
<anivair>
oddly, i also can't use the external network at all
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<abeehc>
ah
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<anivair>
it sees my gateway, but I can't get to the internet
11:38
DNS servers are correct
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<abeehc>
are you doing the dual nic setup or whatever?
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or do the clients have direct internet?
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<anivair>
yeah. I had everything running on eth0 but that card crapped out t his morning so i nmoved to eth1
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<abeehc>
I see
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<anivair>
everyone can get on the server fine (or could till now)
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<abeehc>
are you using ubuntu?
11:39
even after you made that change?
11:39
<anivair>
but after an hour or so it won't let people log in.
11:39
ubuntu, yes
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<abeehc>
i assume the client can ping the server
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<anivair>
not sure.
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<abeehc>
personaly i'd be tempted to switch eth1 to eth0
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<anivair>
actually, yes, of course it can
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<abeehc>
hehe
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<anivair>
it loads fine. they get a login prompt
11:40
just can't actually log in.
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<abeehc>
and your auth is against normal linux users on the server?
11:40
<anivair>
yes. I tried my admin login just to be sure
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<abeehc>
or something more interesting?
11:40
ok
11:40
coudl you patestbin the bad ldm.log
11:40
maybe interesting maybenot
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<anivair>
umm ... I don't seem to have any ldm.log.
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<abeehc>
sorry that would be a file on the client
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<anivair>
ahh
11:42
hold on
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<abeehc>
var/log/ldm.log
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<vagrantc>
abeehc: do you have 65-bit clients?
11:44
abeehc: you probably want to run ltsp-update-image --arch i386
11:44
<abeehc>
64 bit clients i assume
11:44
65sounds better though
11:44
<vagrantc>
sure ...
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<abeehc>
I don't myself not in production anyway
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<vagrantc>
or should i directed that to anivair
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<abeehc>
anivair:
11:45
is the person with the troubles
11:45
<vagrantc>
ah
11:45
<anivair>
from the cmd line on the client:
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<abeehc>
he kkinda skipped over the first issue though
11:45
<vagrantc>
anivair: you probably want ltsp-update-image --arch i386
11:45
<abeehc>
i asusme his chroots are correct now
11:45
http://ltsp.pastebin.com
11:45* vagrantc is just trying to pipe in by reading backscroll
11:45
<anivair>
hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd = 0 x1435012
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<abeehc>
vagrantc: much appreciated
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<anivair>
running the update image
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<abeehc>
I just jump in while the timezones are in my favour normaly
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and the backscroll readers tend to correct me on many points about 8 hours later
11:51
<anivair>
no change.
11:51
after the update image and rebooting the clients
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getting the same spurious response message as well.
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<abeehc>
i'm not sure if the spurious thing is important.. my machines do funny things like that i think
11:53
so you cannot login?
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<abeehc>
i'd still be interested int he client /var/log/ldm.log after a failed login try
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<anivair>
er ... what is the login i'm supposed to be using for the client?
11:54
because I can't say I have ever logged into a client (well, not in the last year)
11:54
<abeehc>
to get that file you'd need the root acount unlocked within the chroot
11:54
I see
11:54
<anivair>
if I F1 on the client, it's asking for a login and p-assword
11:54
<abeehc>
traditional clients only have a root account I think
11:54
that said if it's a fresh chroot, the accoutn will not be unlocked
11:54
<anivair>
these are disklessworkstation clients.
11:54
if that matters
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<abeehc>
nope I don't think so
11:55
<anivair>
so no idea about the password?
11:55
<abeehc>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UnlockChrootRootAcct
11:55
i always unlock the account myself; I also install openssh in the chroot too so i can remotely deal with wierd things
11:56
I think those instructions apply.. I could be mistaken and the ldm.log won't say anything cool bu tnot sure.. I think having the root account unlocked is pretty useful anyway
11:56
<anivair>
I'm confused. Am I not logging into the thin client?
11:57
oh, i see
11:57
<abeehc>
ok, a fresh chroot (filesystem on the
11:57
ok
11:57
<anivair>
give me a sec
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<abeehc>
you will probly want to setup SHELL_02 directive in lts.conf if you haven't already
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<anivair>
okay ... pair of ldm.log's in hand
12:06
here is the login data:
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Process 3069 exited with status 0
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ssh_session: ssh -Y -t -M -S /var/run/ldm_socket_2902_100.100.100.18 -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=1 rossman@100.100.100.18
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echo LTSPROCKS; /bin/sh -
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<abeehc>
hey do pastebin
12:06
<anivair>
ldm_spawn: pid = 3078
12:06
<abeehc>
it'll be prettier
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<anivair>
you lost me, but here's a link
12:07
http://anivair.com/downloads/WORK/ldm.log
12:07
that's a reboot, one login attempt, and then the login prompt resetting
12:08
<abeehc>
ok have you got the root account unlocked?
12:08
<anivair>
I do
12:08
<abeehc>
that kinda look slike ssh keys still to me
12:08
try ssh as root to the server, i think, that should login with not prompt
12:08
<anivair>
I can do them again, i guess. see what happens
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<abeehc>
from the client
12:08
usually i run update-keys acouple times haha
12:08
but it should have no affect
12:09
it could be your nic change is the root cuase here but I don't know where that might be changed
12:09
<anivair>
well, it's odd that after the nic change, people logged in just fine
12:09
and now they are not
12:09
very weird
12:09
<abeehc>
yeah for sure :|
12:10
nvm, it should ask you for a root pass i was mistaken
12:10
do youi see anything cool in the server's /var/log/auth.log
12:18
<anivair>
a) new ldm.log is exactly the same as the old one with the new pids
12:18
b) auth.log DOES show something interesting. it's showing none of these attempts
12:18
so they're not hitting the server at all
12:18
or at least not deep enough to get to the log
12:19
<abeehc>
can you go to a client shell, and try ssh username@server
12:19
where username is the normal user your are trying to login to ldm with
12:19
it should ask for a pass and hten log you in.. if not somethings bad
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<anivair>
I can. note that I can sftp to my own machine. that';s how I got the ldm files
12:19
but I'll try the server
12:19
<abeehc>
ok
12:19
from client to server is most important i think
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<anivair>
odd
12:22
I can ssh to my desktop, but not to the client (same network)
12:23
also, i can ping the server, but not ssh
12:23
so that's it, somehow
12:23
second odd thing: I also cannot ssh to the server (anymore) from my desktop
12:23
I could before, because I'm sitting in an ssh session right now
12:23
<abeehc>
hehe
12:24
ssh isn't listening on that new nic i guess
12:24
try restarting openssh-server?
12:24
<anivair>
why was it before?
12:24
because ssh stopping was the reason I got into this mess in the first place
12:24
<abeehc>
ssh shouldn't stop
12:24
look over the daemon.log?
12:25
or start from the beginning again as far as what poroblems you were having with ssh?
12:25
<anivair>
restarted with no change.
12:25
long story (very) short
12:25
about 12:00 nobody could log in if they logged out
12:25
I hadn't rebooted in like 3 months, so I figured that would help
12:25
it did not
12:26
rather, it would let people in, but the network was terribly slow
12:26
so I figured maybe the nic had gone bad
12:26
changed to the new nic, everything worked
12:26
for 2 hours
12:26
and now it's starting again
12:26
(that's the abridged version ... the trade paperback is getting bad reviews)
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<abeehc>
it's hard to understand why ssh isn't listenning on that interface
12:28
if it's gone away recently, you should see something in /var/log/daemon.log
12:28
<anivair>
well, it's a recent development, so there's that
12:29
<abeehc>
in fact if ssh can't bind to eth1 it should say so in one of those logs
12:29
<anivair>
sshd -d gives me a lot of bind failures
12:30
<abeehc>
you might need to do /etc/init.d/ssh stop first
12:30
then try running it with -d maybe that'll be interesting
12:30
mind you if you have clients that are working you don't want to interrupt
12:30
we are getting close to messing them up
12:30
<anivair>
I do, indeed, have clients that are working
12:31
I can return when they go home for the day, but I'm not sure what good it'll do, sadly.
12:31
<abeehc>
what does ssh do when you tried from the client?
12:31
<anivair>
hangs
12:31
<abeehc>
try with -vvv
12:31
<anivair>
I just get nothing
12:31
<abeehc>
do you have nmap around?
12:31
<anivair>
let me see how long i can get it to go
12:31
<abeehc>
i imagine your pings times werent' bad
12:32
<anivair>
I got in this time, but it was about 20 seconds
12:32
<abeehc>
nmap to confirm that ssh is listening would be good probly
12:32
well that's a good thing
12:32
<anivair>
i'm running it with a -vvv right now
12:32
<abeehc>
take a look in the server auth.log maybe it'll also say something about that suceesful login and why it took 20seconds
12:32
<anivair>
ah ha1
12:33
it's trying for the private key authentification first
12:33
that's probably the issue with ltsp
12:34
it's not wanting to wait that long
12:34
maybe
12:35
no how do i turn that off?
12:35
<abeehc>
no i think you want it to do key auth first
12:35
i could be mistaken.. there are smarter pepople that will readh this log and come up with the answer
12:36
<anivair>
hehe
12:36
well, i know that there's an authentication that slows ssh way down
12:36
RSAAuthentication, maybe?
12:36
<abeehc>
sorry i got nothing
12:36
mine's pretty slow too
12:36
but I think that ltsp relies on priv key auth for the boot process
12:37
<anivair>
drat
12:37
I thought I was getting it
12:38
<abeehc>
i think ssh keys are still the most likely issue
12:38
<anivair>
GSSAPIAuthentication, maybe?
12:39
<abeehc>
in my experience with stock ubuntu you should not have to change anything like that
12:39
<anivair>
that's my experience as well
12:39
<abeehc>
i'm uyst seeing how i can confirm the ssh keys are correct in my thin clents
12:40
ok here's what i didn't ask
12:40
when you ssh from client to server, does ssh promtp you to trust the key??
12:41
<anivair>
after I reboot, i th ink it does.
12:42
it asked me to trust the key to my machine
12:42
(I just managed to successfully ssh to the server, but again, it took a long time)
12:42
I'll reboot and try again and see
12:43
<abeehc>
I think
12:43
if you do trust it, ldm login will work
12:43
until you reboot the client
12:43
and that means update-ssh-keys didn't work so well for you
12:44
which perhaps get back to ltsp-update-image? you need to do that after update-ssh-keys
12:44
<anivair>
correction, it did not ask
12:44
<abeehc>
ldm still no go?
12:45
are you running more than one arch
12:45
like your chroot before indicated amd64
12:46
<anivair>
I built is --arch i386
12:46
that's the build command I gave it
12:47
is there an amd64 option?
12:48
<abeehc>
i guess you server is x64?
12:48
<anivair>
my clients are, I believe, i386 which is why I run that build
12:48
<abeehc>
you could do amd64 clients but most don't
12:48
<anivair>
yes
12:48
ooh, follow this bouncing logic: I just tried a normal login (on a machine I ran an ssh from) at the same time as an ssh on another client
12:48
the server rejection came back before the password prompt
12:48
so maybe it's just timing out?
12:49
<abeehc>
what kind of reejction? it would have to be pretty crappy onthe network for it to timeout i'd think
12:51
<anivair>
well, meaning that is the ssh connection takes, say, 45 seconds, and the login prompt only waits, say, 30 seconds for a server response, then it's never going to get my password
12:51
it'll drop into "no response from server" first
12:51
(if that makes any sense)
12:52
<abeehc>
yeah
12:53
i assume your lts.conf is generic or even empty?
12:54
<anivair>
the one in /opt is blank save for the generic xomment text that comes with it
12:54
the one in /var is not empty, but is geieric
12:55
I'm seeing some ubuntu talk about adding the machine you're looking for into the /etc/host file, but it should already be in there, so that's not useful for me
12:55
ooh ... except that the actual ip address isn't in there, just the loopback
12:55
<abeehc>
yeah you should confirm that on the client, but
12:55
hello
12:55
lemme see what mine say
12:56
<anivair>
not really sure what to add there to get it in
12:56
<abeehc>
which hosts file?
12:56
the client?
12:56
<anivair>
yeah
12:56
er, no
12:56
server
12:56
/etc/hosts
12:56
<abeehc>
ok sec
12:56
<anivair>
though I'll check the client, too
12:56
<abeehc>
ok
12:57
here's what mine are
12:58
<anivair>
on the client is has the ip in there as "server"
12:58
on the host, it's not there
12:58
<abeehc>
that sounds correct and consistent with mine
12:58
http://pastebin.com/484j9J4z
12:58
the server one is important
12:58
in fact when i asked you to ssh form the client earlier, did you use "server" as the hostname?
12:59
<anivair>
nope, i used the ip address
13:00
<abeehc>
try the hostname i think that is important
13:00Nick change: evil_root -> zz_evil_root
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<abeehc>
like i say when the other timezones roll by smarter people will be able to suggest things sorry i couldn't help much
13:03
gotta get goin home gl toyou
13:04
<anivair>
FYI: asked me if I wanted to add it to known hosts, took about a minute again and let me in
13:04
still no login from the gdm screen
13:04
thanks for the help, though
13:11
if anyone else out there has any ideas, I'll gladly hear them.
13:16
<dan_l>
anyone that can help with mounting a homedir using nbd?
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<dan_l>
help with mounting an nbd home directory?
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<HrdwrBoB_>
why are you using nbd home?
17:10
<dan_l>
alkisg suggested this solution. We are running in something close to kiosk mode. Multiple users would mount the homedir with the cow option and get authorized from a gtk login box against remote server
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<dan_l>
So far - I created a 78M filesystem w/dd and mke2fs. Mounted it in loopback mode, rsynced the homedir contents to it. unmounted.
17:14
then "nbd-server 9085 /opt/ltsp/images/tfhome.img"
17:14
from the client "nbd-client hostname 9085 /dev/nbd1"
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<mum_>
how to show local hardisk in kisk mode
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<mum_>
#ubuntu
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