IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 May 2012   (all times are UTC)

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03:43
<krfkeith>
I am so lost: I need help trying to netboot over pxe
03:43
if anyone could oblige me
03:45
<alkisg>
krfkeith: is that about the BIOS flashing?
03:45
<krfkeith>
yes
03:45
<alkisg>
You don't need to netboot, grub and syslinux have support for booting floppy images
03:45
<krfkeith>
ugh, I almost want to cry, I've been trying to get this to work all day
03:45
<alkisg>
Do you have a local linux installation?
03:45
<krfkeith>
except there's no floppy drive
03:46
yes, I'm on one right now
03:46
<alkisg>
"floppy images" == a file called "myfloppy.img"
03:46
Not a drive, a file
03:46
<krfkeith>
oh right, sorry
03:46
misread you
03:46
<alkisg>
So just put a grub entry for it
03:46
<krfkeith>
I don't need to boot linux on the machine, just Freedos to run the flasher
03:46
I can't get tftp to work
03:46
<alkisg>
Just put a grub entry for freedos then
03:46
You don't neet network booting
03:47
So no need for tftp, dhcp or anything else
03:47
<krfkeith>
that's the only way the machine will boot
03:47
<alkisg>
It doesn't have a local linux installation then?
03:47
<krfkeith>
no, my main machine does, I'm trying to update the BIOS for a thin client
03:47
<alkisg>
Ah, so the thin client doesn't have a local disk or anything else for local booting?
03:48
<krfkeith>
it has Windows CE on it, not too useful :(
03:48* vagrantc wonders about win32-installer.exe
03:48
<alkisg>
win32loader? yeah that's what I was thinking
03:49
Can that run any normal .exe, or it's not "real" windows?
03:49
<krfkeith>
I've tried every permutation of dnsmasq, udhcp, tftpd-hpa, etc
03:49
hmm, I dunno? unfortunately I have no windows machines
03:49
<alkisg>
OK let's get you a network booting environment then, shouldn't take long...
03:49
<krfkeith>
basically, I can't figure out how to set up dhcp
03:49
<alkisg>
What distro/version do you have in your main machine, which is to be the boot server?
03:50
<krfkeith>
Ubuntu 11.10
03:50
well, Xubuntu specifically
03:51
<alkisg>
OK, and what's your networking like? E.g. 1 network card on the server, 1 router functioning as the dhcp server etc...
03:52
<krfkeith>
right now it's just this one machine (a laptop) connected to a wireless router, I have it physically connected to the thin client over it's one ethernet port (but obviously they're not talking)
03:52
and yes my crummy 2wire is the dhcp server
03:53
<alkisg>
OK lets simplify it, can you connect both of them with wired connections to your router (it's a 4 port switch too?)
03:53
<krfkeith>
okay sure, I can do that
03:53
<alkisg>
Also uninstall dhcp3-server
03:54
<krfkeith>
I purged dhcp3-server, dnsmasq, and anything else I might've screwed up
03:54
brb, let me connect everything, I might disconnect
03:54
<alkisg>
ok
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03:57* alkisg has tried debian testing and found out that upstream gnome's default font (cantarell) doesn't include greek glyphs!!! It only has 391 symbols, as opposed to dejavu's 3471 glyphs... :(
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03:57
<kevin_>
ok
03:57
<vagrantc>
alkisg: oh no!
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03:58
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I'll mail the greek fedora list and see what they come up with...
03:58
krfkeith_: wired connections now?
03:58
<vagrantc>
alkisg: it's really an upstream thing?
03:58
<krfkeith_>
alright, sorry this is going to take a little more time, I need to move the thin client now (I have to physically move it and its monitor)
03:58
<alkisg>
vagrantc: yup, since 2010 when they switched fonts
03:58
krfkeith_: np ping when you're ready
03:58
<krfkeith_>
but thank you SO MUCH, I really appreciate it :)
03:58
<vagrantc>
alkisg: they tested gnome3 on like 6 people...
03:59
<alkisg>
I'm starting to understand why canonical had problems collaborating with upstream gnome :
03:59
:(
03:59
<vagrantc>
alkisg: is it fairly easy to switch fonts?
04:00
alkisg: i.e. could debian default to a more worldly font?
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04:00
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I had to install gnome-tweak-tool to change it for the current user, dunno about setting it system-wide... yeah I guess it's just some theme setting
04:00
I'll try to file bugs for it on both upstream + debian though, as Ubuntu's getting harder for ltsp setups, it's focusing too much on the desktop user...
04:01
<vagrantc>
alkisg: definitely worth a bug in the debian BTS ... then they can wrangle with upstream
04:01
<alkisg>
Will do
04:01
<vagrantc>
(or both, and mention the existance of both)
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04:02
<alkisg>
I found an upstream bug for cyrillic glyphs, and they were added to cantarell and the bug was fixed, but I didn't find any bugs filed for other "common" language glyphs
04:03
<vagrantc>
in a world that seems to mostly default to UTF-8 these days, you'd think they'd pick a font that covers a wider range of languages
04:03
<alkisg>
Yeah there are even complains about that in the wikipedia cantarell entry
04:04
I'm starting to love debian's policy of "get it working _first_ and make it default once it's ready" more and more
04:04
<vagrantc>
:)
04:04
<krfkeith_>
alkisg, alright both are now physically connected to my router
04:04
<alkisg>
Unity, upstart, local resolver... ubuntu's becoming too difficult to set up straight
04:05
krfkeith_: it'll be much faster if we share a screen (console), would you mind?
04:05
<krfkeith_>
uh sure, no problem
04:05
<alkisg>
I.e. i'll be entering commands on your pc, but you'll be seeing what I do
04:05
OK, sudo apt-get install screen socat
04:05
<krfkeith_>
cool, cool
04:06
let me install that
04:07
alright done
04:08
how do I enable it?
04:08
<alkisg>
socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:alkisg.dyndns.org:25547 & screen -l -S ra
04:16
krfkeith_: write here now, what's going on?
04:16
<krfkeith_>
it booted!
04:17
I just have to figure out how the flashrom thing works, but I can do that
04:17
<alkisg>
Nice :)
04:17
<krfkeith_>
thank you, SO MUCH
04:17
<alkisg>
For your reference, we did something like this:
04:17
!proxydhcp
04:17
<ltsp`>
alkisg: I do not know about 'proxydhcp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'proxy-dhcp'
04:17
<alkisg>
!proxy-dhcp
04:17
<ltsp`>
alkisg: proxy-dhcp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
04:17
<krfkeith_>
the good news is that once the BIOS is flashed I can boot from usb
04:17
<alkisg>
OK I left "screen"
04:17
<krfkeith_>
thanks man :)
04:17
<alkisg>
You don't have any open ports so you don't need to uninstall anything
04:17
np
04:19
It should also work over wireless (server connection), if you ever need it, but only for that 192.168.* subnet
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04:40
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i need to re-think how i'm doing the ltsp-update-image workaround to prevent it from automatically transforming debian setups into NBD ...
04:41
alkisg: i've got 3 use-cases ... NFS (do nothing), NBD + regular fs (configure nbd-server, no image mangling), and NBD + squashfs (configure nbd-server, create squashfs image from dir)
04:41
ideally, i'd like to be able to switch between at least NFS/NBD+sqaushfs and have both work simultaneously...
04:42
alkisg: and i know you've got most excellent plants for all this.
04:43
<krfkeith_>
alkisg, is the tftp directory /var/lib/tftpboot?
04:45
<vagrantc>
it's frequently /var/lib/tftpboot, though also could be /srv/tftp or /tftpboot
04:46
(well, it could be anywhere, but those are fairly common locations)(
04:46
<krfkeith_>
okay
04:46
you used tftpd-hpa right?
04:47* vagrantc uses tftpd-hpa, dnsmasq or atftpd
04:47
<vagrantc>
depending on the whim of the moment, and weather i need to access symlinks outside the tree.
04:51
<alkisg>
vagrantc: in a couple days I'll upload a rewritten ltsp-update-image, let's check how it works by default on debian after I upload
04:51
krfkeith_: yes, /var/lib/tftpboot
04:51* alkisg gets kids to school, bb in 30'
04:51
<krfkeith_>
bye bye
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: so... if someone runs ltsp-update-image on debian, and that creates an nbd image and an nbd-server configuration without modifying his bootprompt options configuration (so by default == nfs boot again), would that be a bad thing?
05:34
<vagrantc>
alkisg: no, probably not.
05:34
it's the habit of actually defaulting it to NBD that was my main problem ...
05:35
although it also takes quite a lot of time for a step that shouldn't be strictly necessary
05:35
<alkisg>
bootprompt_options would be defined per distro in /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf if we decide to always ship one instead of hardcoding it...
05:35
<krfkeith_>
alkisg, well good news! I successfully flashed the BIOS, and managed to boot up tinycore linux without a hitch, thank you so much for your help :)
05:36
<vagrantc>
alkisg: what i really want is to be able to support both NFS and NBD concurrently
05:36
<alkisg>
vagrantc: we can do that if we enable pxe menus by default, and it's probably safe to enable them when there's more than 1 boot options
05:37
I can also put code in ltsp-update-image to prompt "are you sure" if bootprompt options contains nfs, is that more reasonable?
05:37
krfkeith_: you're welcome :)
05:37
<vagrantc>
alkisg: that might work.
05:38
alkisg: although, "are you sure" prompts are obnoxious
05:38
<alkisg>
Maybe a "use --force if you really meant that" ?
05:38
<vagrantc>
alkisg: especially if the configuration is actually intentionally suppoirting both
05:39
<alkisg>
True.. well we can do anything, let's decide what's better
05:40
Another idea is "you seem to be using NFS, the nbd image will be generated, press ctrl+c if you didn't want that"
05:40
So until mksquashfs finishes, the user has the time to press ctrl+c without having his configuration changed
05:41
I.e. only a warning for people that didn't know that ltsp-update-image isn't really necessary on debian
05:43
Btw ltsp-pnp will basically be "ltsp-update-image /" now
05:43
I'll make ltsp-update-image accept a path to the source directory or .vdi or .qcow etc image
05:44
So I guess that some debian users will do that too, even if the default is nfs
05:44
(as one wouldn't want to export / with nfs without a cleanup phase)
05:45
The resulting nbd file name will default to "arch.img" for /, and to the .vdi filename otherwise
05:46
And it will be possible to override it with --arch=xxx
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05:49
<alkisg>
And btw #2, my small roadmap is first to commit client/ltsp-cleanup[+ .d], then ltsp-update-image, then some pxe menus support
05:50
At that point I'll send a mail for testing, to add more cleanup stuff that people might need
05:51
<Hyperbyte>
reset
05:52
<alkisg>
"Are you sure? [y/n]"
05:53
<Hyperbyte>
ugh... damn mobile keyboards... way too small
05:53
<alkisg>
Ah and maybe we can talk about the trunk/packaging changes I mentioned in the ML, i.e. to have a trunk dir for <client>/usr/share/ltsp and distro overrides for everything in there
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07:50
<user__>
live webcam "stream" from asmok's ltsp workshop http://arkki.info/webcam/cubox/
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08:17
<Hyperbyte>
user__, why would anyone here want to watch that? :P
08:18
You can't see the projection screen
08:18
Nor hear what's said
08:18
Basically... it's pictures of people sitting behind computers.
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09:19
<dhana013>
Hi Guys this is correct TIMEZOME="Asia/Calcutta"
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09:25
<dhana013>
Hyperbyte, Hi
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09:30
<dhana013>
Guys How to set TIMEZONE in lts.conf file please guide me.
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09:35
<muppis>
!lts.conf
09:35
<ltsp`>
muppis: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
09:35
<muppis>
dhana013, take a look at that ^
09:38
<dhana013>
ltsp`, I have set TIMEZOME="Asia/Calcutta" but no effect in client pc
09:39
ltsp`, in ldm login screen showing wrong time
09:40
<muppis>
ltsp` is a bot..
09:40
Try defing a ntp server to a lts.conf
09:41
<dhana013>
I have already define TIMESERVER = 192.168.1.50 but no effect
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09:46
<muppis>
Open a root shell and try to update manually. To do that, specify screen_02=shell and screen_07=ldm to lts.conf and reboot client
09:46
Then you have a root shell in alt+ctrl+f2
09:49
<dhana013>
muppis, I fix this TIMEZONE = Asia/Calcutta without codes working showing correct time
09:51
and changed TIMESERVER = 192.168.1.50
09:52
<muppis>
Good.
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10:06
<dhana013>
muppis, The main important thing is set ntp server ip TIMESERVER = 192.168.1.50 otherwise not work
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10:20
<Gremble>
morning all
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10:38
<dhana013>
I try auto login with my client [e0:69:00:e5:9c:00]
10:38
LDM_USERNAME = test
10:38
LDM_PASSWORD = test123
10:38
SCREEN_07 = startx
10:38
it's not working
10:39
any clues
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11:01
<cyberorg>
dhana013, SCREEN_07 = ldm and LDM_AUTOLOGIN = True
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<dhana013>
cyberorg, thanks i try
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11:13
<dhana013>
cyberorg, it's works on particular macaddress client working other client not shows login screen, show blank screen
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<dhana013>
HI Guys I want Hide nautilus Filesystem to my client pc, Client pc only show is home directory only please guide me
15:59
<dead_inside>
is this ltsp related?
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<dhana013>
dead_inside, yes
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<dead_inside>
and by pc did you mean windows?
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<dhana013>
my client doesn't see my root filesystem
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<dead_inside>
ok then did you build the client as a fat client instead of thin client?
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<dhana013>
no
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<dead_inside>
why does your client need the root then? thin clients run everything on the server side
16:02
<dhana013>
my server desktop gnome all content show my client pc's as per user account
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dead_inside, I want hide nautilus filesystem tab to client pc's
16:03
dead_inside, in file system hide folders in possible using .hide file
16:04
<dead_inside>
um i dont know how to do that, i would suggest just uninstalling nautilus if you dont want them to have it, or chmod 000 the bin file
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<dhana013>
sorry .hidden file
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dead_inside, I try and get back you, one question i can remove nautilus How user browse files in home directory
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<dead_inside>
they could use a terminal and the ls and cd command
16:06
lol
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<dhana013>
dead_inside, sorry my client pc users doesn't know how to use terminals
16:08
<dead_inside>
i dont have an answer for ya then, i know the server end and not much about the desktop end
16:08
<dhana013>
dead_inside, thanks for your kindly answer
16:08
<dead_inside>
np
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19:37
<Webgen>
Hi all
19:37
abyone has info about runing windows apps over LTSP fat client?
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<dead_inside>
you mean like using wine Webgen?
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<Webgen>
yes, i tried to use wine
20:01
is wine runing stable on LTSP?
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<dead_inside>
dont know never tried it
20:02
i have a strict no windows policy
20:02
<Webgen>
i need to run quickbooks on LTSP
20:02
no way arround that...
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<dead_inside>
aww
20:03
if you have the fat client running
20:03
you can test and install wine on the client and not the image, that way if it no work just reboot the client
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<||cw>
is quickbooks works in wine, I don't see why it wouldn't work
20:19
dead_inside: if it's a fat client, it's kind of already "on the client"
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<dead_inside>
if they installed wine on the image
20:20
<||cw>
sure
20:20
just that I don't really see ltsp affecting wine operation at all, except for graphics performance on thin clients
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<dead_inside>
indeed it should run fine if the client is fat enough
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<||cw>
and if the software works in the first place
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<dead_inside>
lol true
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<||cw>
Webgen: I think the more common method would be to run a windows virtual machine and use the thin client rdesktop screen profile
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<Webgen>
thanks CW.
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<mnevans>
I am looking for some help getting ltsp going on a ubuntu 12.04 fresh install.
21:25
After installing the plain desktop system, I updated and upgraded via apt-get and synaptic to newest kernel, etc.
21:26
I then installed ltsp-server-standalone, then ran ltsp-build-client for both i386 and amd64 clients.
21:26
The message after building clients said run "service nbd-server restart" so I did.
21:27
First network interface is eth1 and 192.168.0.26 (set manually in network manager).
21:27
Second network interface is eth0 and 192.168.1.1 (set manually in network manager).
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(I am asking NM to ignore ipv6 in both cases.)
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ifconfig eth1 reports correctly the settings, and I have internet; for eth0 I don'
21:28
t see the ip address I set manually take.
21:28
Running service isc-dhcp-server restart merely gives " Job failed to start".
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I suspect a problem in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf. Here it is in pastebin:
21:30
pastebin.com/GhaK9f9m
21:31
Thanks in advance for any help.
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<alkisg>
What's the output of nm-tool ?
21:31
option domain-name-servers 128.8.74,2,128.8.76.2; => you have a comma there instead of a dot
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<mnevans>
Thanks alkisg; nm-tool > pastebin.com/ErFhvYVP
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alkisg, I think the help says separate dns-servers with a comma.
21:33
<alkisg>
State:             disconnected => check your cable, and also click on the connection to connect if it's not set to autoconnect
21:33
mnevans: read again; two commas there , the first one is wrong
21:33
128.8.74 , 2
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<mnevans>
alkisg - got it, thanks - fixed in dhcpd.conf.
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<alkisg>
Before restarting dhcpd, check your connection first
21:35
Cable, click on connection menu to connect etc
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<mnevans>
Cable is connected; I started the connection using NM; now nm-tool shows a connection (duh!)...
21:36
<alkisg>
Better make it a "system connection", and with "autoconnect: on"
21:36
<mnevans>
Now I tried to restart the isc-dhcp-server service: no dice.
21:36
<alkisg>
Check syslog
21:36
<mnevans>
alkisg, how do I make it a system connection?
21:37
<alkisg>
In the connection properties there's a checkbox to allow the connection for all users or something (using translated menus here so not sure about the exact wording)
21:37
<mnevans>
Check 'connect automatically' in NM?
21:37
<alkisg>
Yes, that one too
21:37
<mnevans>
Yes, it is checked: available to all users.
21:38
<alkisg>
OK, check syslog for dhcpd messages
21:38
<mnevans>
Ok - connect automatically too.
21:38
Let's see, you said check the syslog...
21:41
aha - I see some errors... Hmm, it says I'm missing a semicolon on line 26 but I'm not. Maybe somewhere else...
21:43
hmm, can't find it. I am copying from a working system. pastebin.com/09S7SRt4
21:43
let me check some more...
21:51
OK - so I copied a working dhcpd.conf from my nontest server; pastebin.com/Qu5vUtEn
21:51
This seems to work - the service starts. Hooray! Now I'll try booting a client...
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<mnevans>
Hmm - according to syslog, client is offered a lease on 192.168.1.x, but the client says, tftp open timeout. Did I need to start a tftp daemon on the ltsp server?
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<mnevans>
uncommented out the next-server line, restarted isc-dhcp-server, restarted client...
22:00
Here are syslog messages: pastebin.com/dpKvJ34D
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<Mip5>
Hey Gang - how's ltsp on 12.04 - I've got a new install coming up, and would like to use it. Any experience?
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<alkisg>
!tftp
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<ltsp`>
alkisg: tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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<alkisg>
mnevans: ^
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<mnevans>
@Mip5, I am just trying to do this myself on a test system, so I can then do a bare metal install on an operating server. Have you found any documentation?
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<alkisg>
Mip5: except for a couple of glitches, it should be ok
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<Mip5>
I haven't tried it at all yet, but have had great success with 10.04 for the past 2 years. I'll be trying it out in about a week.
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alkisg: What kind of glitches - presumably you folks have found workarounds.
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<mnevans>
@alkisg, that documentation starts by saying it is specific to ubuntu through 10.10... I'll give these things a try...
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<alkisg>
mnevans: it was written then, but many things there are still valid
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!ltsp-bug
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<ltsp`>
alkisg: ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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<alkisg>
Mip5: see recent bug reports there ^
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<mnevans>
tftfp-hpa is running.
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<alkisg>
Nothing really serious
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<mnevans>
tftp files are there.
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<Mip5>
alkisg: okay - I'll start reading up. Thanks (as always!)
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<alkisg>
mnevans: ah you also had the filename commented out in dhcp, did you put it back?
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<mnevans>
OK alkisg, I tried using an external tftp client, and then running tftp [IP] -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 and get a transfer timeout.
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<alkisg>
mnevans: cat /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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(pastebin)
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<Mip5>
heading out - good evening all.
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<alkisg>
bb
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<mnevans>
aha - tftp_address is set to 0.0.0.0:69. Should this be the ltsp server address?
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<alkisg>
No
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0.0.0.0 is the "listen to all interfaces" address
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<mnevans>
pastebin.com/AK2rnLBq
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<alkisg>
Try from the server itself, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/bin/tftp localhost etc
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Also check that /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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exists
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<mnevans>
It exists. trying /opt/ltsp/i386/...tftp localhost -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 : transfer time out.
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<alkisg>
TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure" --> TFTP_OPTIONS="--verbose --secure"
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Then restart tftpd-hpa, try again and then check syslog
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<alkisg>
sudo netstat -nap|grep :69 says tftpd is running, right?
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<mnevans>
OK - added verbose logging, restarted tftpd-hpa, restarted client -- it worked.
22:30
syslog says: segfault at start of compiz.desktop. Client comes up with blank screen except desktop wallpaper.
22:30
netstat -nap|grep... shows tftpd is running, yes.
22:31
restarting the thin client...
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thin client hangs when "trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/default ok".
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restarted client again - same hang point.
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Trying a server reboot. Then a client reboot.
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<alkisg>
(01:30:02 πμ) mnevans: syslog says: segfault at start of compiz.desktop. Client comes up with blank screen except desktop wallpaper. => try putting unity-2d session
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!unity-2d
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<ltsp`>
alkisg: Error: "unity-2d" is not a valid command.
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<alkisg>
!ubuntu-2d
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<ltsp`>
alkisg: ubuntu-2d: To select ubuntu-2d as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d"
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<alkisg>
'night all
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<mnevans>
Thanks alkisg. I created lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/... with that line. Restarted isc-dhcp-server. Restarted client. Same hang. Time to go home...
22:49
Good night all. If I figure this out with your help, I will make a wiki for all of us...
22:54
Wait - on another reboot, it seems to work. This was another restart of isc-dhcp-server, and uncommenting of the standard stanza in /etc/dhcpd.conf: if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) ="PXEClient" { ...
23:05
So it looks like getting ltsp on 12.04 lts is something like the following:
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1. install 12.04 desktop
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2. apply all current updates.
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3. install ltsp-server-standalone/
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1.5. configure your NICs manually using network-manager, set to autoconnect, ignore IPv6 in my case.
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4. install ltsp-server standalone.
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<mnevans>
5. build client(s) with appropriate architectires.
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6. configure /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf accordingly to NIC setup.
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7. service isc-dhcp-server restart
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<mnevans>
8. add the lts.conf file to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/[i386,amd64]/ with LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d"
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9. Boot a client and see if it'll fly.
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I've got that in my logbook, now tomorrow I might try to replicate this from bare metal...
23:13
Did I mention that localdev support seems to be back?? Hooray!
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<mnevans>
Test: after server reboot: need to manually start isc-dhcp-server and have to have installed tftp-hpa, and restarted that too, *before* you start isc-dhcp-server. ?
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