IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 11 March 2017   (all times are UTC)

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09:31
<hima>
hi
09:32
i connect to ltsp server using both thin client and rdp
09:33
xrdp
09:33
i use the same user to login
09:35
whatever i change while using xrdp , it shows instantenously
09:36
on fat thin client
09:37
what i change on fat-thin it shows instantenously on other XRDP , but when change at XRDP , it will now show on thin-fat client unless i prefresh
11:03
<vlt>
hima: How high are you?
11:05
<hima>
vlt , i think you are at the wrong place
11:05
<vlt>
I think you need to explain (at least to me) what you mean with a “change” that “shows”, what a “fat thin” client is and what a “thin-fat”, the difference between “while using xrdp” and “at xrdp”, what “prefresh” is and if you mean “not” when you say “now”.
11:26
<hima>
i am talking about connecting to ltsp server using fat client
11:36
<vlt>
hima: You’d help me understand the problem if you took each of my marked phrases and explained it (maybe with an example).
11:42
hima: Can you give an example for a “change”?
11:49
<quinox>
What kind of changes are you talking about... installing applications, changing UI colors?
12:01
<hima>
craeting folders
12:02
first example
12:03
i iam logged in to the Fat Client , and at the same time logged using XRDP with the same user
12:05
<vlt>
And?
12:06
hima: Details.
12:06
<hima>
on fat client :if i created a folder on desktop , it reflects rapidly on xrdp
12:07
but if i create or rename or do whatever on xrdp , it will refresh on fat client after i press f5
12:08
i think it is a matter of screen refresh
12:08
in fat-client client
12:09
<vlt>
I don’t.
12:10
<hima>
may be it is something in lts.conf?
12:11
<vlt>
Your fat client writes to the remote file system. This occurs immediately.
12:11
xrdp is a session running locally on the server.
12:12
<hima>
i could show you s nap of viedo
12:12
<vlt>
Why?
12:13
<hima>
cause it did not refresh at my fat client while remote session is running
12:13
any way , thanks for giving the hint ,that it should not be like that
12:13
<vlt>
Are you even listening?
12:14
If you change something locally in the xrdp session it might not get “announced” to all the remote file systems that very moment.
12:15
<hima>
then , the right thing should be declared , regarding remote session and fat client syncs
12:15
<quinox>
I think most people only log in at 1 place at a time when using LTSP
12:16
<hima>
coorect
12:16
<vlt>
hima: Sorry, I didn’t understand that. Who should do what?
12:16
<hima>
but , if i want to help some one logged in at fat client, while i am online
12:16
i need to login using remote session
12:17
vlt , execuse me for my english
12:18
i mean , it would be better if someone explained that
12:18
<quinox>
if you're providing remote assistence just remember than you're working with a remote filesystem, so you have to press F5 :)
12:19
you might want to connecto the fat client, in that case you'll see precisely what the user sees including mouse cursor etc.
12:19
<hima>
yes i see
12:19
but
12:19
i am talking about case , where
12:19
someone outside the local network of ltsp server
12:20
and wanted to help a user at fat client
12:20
<vlt>
hima: I just did exactly that.
12:20
<quinox>
TeamViewer ?
12:20
<hima>
i use already
12:20
<quinox>
I have no idea how well that one works for Linux clients to be honest, I only rarely use it when helping remote Windows users
12:21
<hima>
i mean i use teamviewer all the time with windows
12:22
<quinox>
they have linux binaries on their site as well, but again I don't know if that particular product works nicely on linux
12:22
I often use Skype too btw
12:23
<hima>
do skype do functions as teamviewer?
12:23
<quinox>
you can share your desktop when you're in a video call, works decently most of the time
12:23
if you are in a video chat with someone they can share specific windows or their whole desktop
12:24
<hima>
and it is fast enogh?
12:24
<quinox>
as a remote assistent you cannot click, but you can see what they see
12:24
I never want to click anyway, I want to teach people what to do so they won't call me again :-)
12:24
<hima>
teamviewer is a dominat in windows area
12:24
<quinox>
fast enough for helping people - it's not nearly as fast as RDP
12:25
<hima>
i used to use teamviewer
12:25
helping people in localnetwork
12:25
<quinox>
Speed wise what I think it goes like this: X11 - VNC/Skype - TeamViewer - RPD
12:25
<vlt>
hima: I use x11vnc on the client to help users.
12:26
<quinox>
I never use Windows, but I'm seriously impressed by the performance and functionality of RPD
12:26
<vlt>
I can reduce the colordepth of the transmitted image on the fly in case it’s too slow.
12:27
<quinox>
nice
12:27
<hima>
i use thinstation to initiate rdp for windows hosts
12:27
we have alot of 600Mhz 128MB ram\
12:28
using thinstation image on CDROM
12:28
and can connect to any remote session
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12:35
<hima>
vlt
12:36
is the only function of LTSP server to have fat or thin clients
12:36
is there a way to use it as remote boot server for different os
12:40
<vlt>
hima: Yes, there is. I use its tftp and nbd parts for print servers, for example.
12:42
<hima>
what is the main difference between pxelinux.0 and ndb
12:42
so all what i need is preparing the other image
12:43
change default configs in pxelinux.cfg directory
12:43
???
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16:45
<hima>
hi alkisg
16:46
i read somewhere i can RDP to windows from fatclient
16:46
using SCREENS
17:01
<alkisg>
Yes, SCREEN_07="xfreerdp params"
17:02
<hima>
it did not work for me
17:02
i set it like that
17:03
SCREEN_08="xfreerdp"
17:03
RDP_SERVER="55.55.55.55"
17:03
could i give SCREEN_08 ti RDP m while SCREEN_0 for ldp?
17:04
<alkisg>
If you mean ldm, then yes
17:04
I don't know what ldp is
17:04
<hima>
ldm yes
17:04
rdp ddi not work for my
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17:05
<hima>
#SCREEN_08="rdesktop xx.yy.zz.ee"
17:06
<alkisg>
I don't know what ddi is
17:07
<hima>
mistyping
17:07
ddi not = did not
17:08
<alkisg>
Put SCREEN_08=xterem
17:08
xterm
17:08
From that xterm, find an xfreerdp command that works
17:08
Then, put that command in SCREEN_08, in one line
17:08
Don't use RDP_SERVER etc
17:19
<hima>
i am managing now
17:36
no way
17:37
SCREEN_08="xterm xfreerdp /v:IP"
17:37
if set SCREEN_08="xterm" it opens the terminal
17:38
if i issued xfreerdm command from the termainl it come to certificate
17:45
i think the problem is with certification mismatch
17:46
now
17:46
it is working
18:19
xfreerdm /v:195.43.8.242 /p:3389 /u:user /p:password
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19:43
<hima>
alkisg???
19:43
i had seached for xfreerdp
19:44
it uses RDP_SERVER
19:44
RDP_SERVER
19:44
<alkisg>
As I said, don't use it, it was there for the ltsp-cluster user interface
19:45
<hima>
RDP_SERVER=
19:45
RDP_OPTIONS=
19:45
<alkisg>
Just don't put those variables anywhere, forget that they exist
19:46
<hima>
MENU_COMMAND=
19:46
that was the only way it worked for medireclty
19:46
such config brings me a menu screen
19:46
to choose wich system
19:46
to use
19:47
including ldm
19:48
<alkisg>
Do you have some question there?
19:48
<hima>
there?
19:49
<alkisg>
You said a few things which I don't agree with, but I didn't understand if you are asking me something or not
19:49
Are you asking something?
19:50
<hima>
i will pastebin
19:52
httpd://goo.gl/oib4MH
19:54
<alkisg>
You pasted that instead of pasting the url, https://jphein.com/spice-session-screen-script-for-ltsp-thin-clients-running-under-ubuntu/ ?
19:54
This talks about writing a spice screen script, which has nothing to do with rdp
19:54
<hima>
the script includes rdp
19:55
is it a different scenario?
19:55
<alkisg>
rdp support is in the xfreerdp screen script
19:55
There's no need to go to random sites and do random things
19:57
<hima>
i tried the same script but it ddi not work when i set screent to xterm
19:58
it did not work when i set SCREEN_07=xterm
20:32
<vlt>
hima: In case `xfreerdm /v:195.43.8.242 /p:3389 /u:user /p:password` from xterm did not work: try xfreerdp instead.
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<hima_>
vlt thanks