IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 11 December 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<val_>
morning
02:29
why i couldn't connect to win2003 terminal server? I see only X-server when my client start up
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<Big-K>
hi
04:27
have big problems restarting ldm
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when I logout or restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace screen remains black
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any idea
04:28
?
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<daduke>
Big-K: they were discussing this yesterday... do you use xterminator? it's somehow related to it. Gadi knows more.
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<Big-K>
no I even never heard that
05:05
do u mean xterm?
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<daduke>
Big-K: and it's not running? They discussed exactly this behavior. But I just read it.
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<Big-K>
not runnind cannot even find a package with that name
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<daduke>
Big-K: guess you'll have to wait for Gadi and/or vagrantc then
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<Big-K>
ok thx
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<val_>
daduke hi
05:34
<daduke>
val_: hey
05:34
<val_>
may be U can help me )
05:35
i couldn't connect to win2003 terminal server
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my client load only window like X style
05:35
<daduke>
val_: using LTSP?? For some reason, I'm not very surprised...
05:37
<val_>
ye. client load ltsp
05:38
<daduke>
val_: ltsp does not speak the Windows TS protocol!
05:39
val_: not unless you use the RDF client that is.
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<val_>
in lts.conf i try put "RDPSERVER = 192.168.0.13"
05:40
what is rdf client?
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i want to see result like http://linuxgazette.net/issue93/levkovich.html
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<daduke>
val_: ok, then you're using the rdp client. What's the problem? I don't think I can help much, I've never used it.
05:49
<Big-K>
ok found my problem
05:49
my /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.conf was wrong
05:49
<daduke>
Big-K: duh!
05:49
<Big-K>
used vmware hardware, cause the ltsp runs on an virtual machine ...
05:50
thx for the gelp daduke ;)
05:50
-g +h
05:50
<daduke>
Big-K: help, like pointing out unrelated things? welcome ;)
05:51
<Big-K>
^^
05:55
<val_>
ls /etc/network
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<val_>
daduke some problem witj ltsp^ something resisting load rdesktop
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<ogra>
val_, is that ltsp5 ? you need to instal the rdesktop package in the client chroot if you want rdesktop with it ...
06:12
<val_>
ltsp 4.1
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<ogra>
oh, well
06:13
thats old an unmaintained, no idea what you need to do there ...
06:16
<val_>
when i put SCREEN_01 = shell
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loading was saccesful
06:20
when i try from console start rdesktop - i see log : faild to open display
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<ogra>
indeed, since you started with the shell option there is no X display up
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<ari_stress>
evening all
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<val_>
ogra rdesktop installed yet
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<val_>
may be some wrong in ltsp 4.1?
06:44
i have new 5.0
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how i can installed it?
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just copy files?
06:45
daduke, ogra
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<daduke>
val_: which distro?
06:46
<val_>
now i use debian etch
06:46
so, i download pack ltsp 5.0 for etch
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<daduke>
val_: how about asking google? You can also have a look at my install notes at https://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/233
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<val_>
daduke google write me for ltsp.org. where i can found some versions
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<val_>
but installation 4.2 by ltspadmin was broken
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so i start whith 4.1
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<daduke>
val_: I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and install 5.
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<val_>
about http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/
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<daduke>
val_: you aware of apt-get and/or aptitude, right?
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<Blinny>
Hallo! Anyone heard of success getting flash sound working on terminals connected to 64-bit Gutsy?
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<johnny>
a common problem, i haven't yet tried to solve
09:43
as i do not have sound on my thin clients
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<val_>
:(
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<johnny>
sbalneav, lemme know if you ever have any patches you wanted tested for ltsp
11:35
i have nice virtualbox setup now
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and i learned some debian/ubuntu packaging
11:35
i applied francis` autologin patch for example..
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<loather-work>
mmm, autologin
12:47
that's something i need.
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i had to hack the python ldm to give that functionality
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<johnny>
the developer of ldm2 has autologin working
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but many other folks do not
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and the patch isn't integrated upstream
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<loather-work>
ldm2, that's the one written in C?
12:50
<johnny>
yes
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<loather-work>
excellent. i need to install ubuntu to a box and build me a new chroot.
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<johnny>
hopefully there will be an update for gutsy, the patch just needs to be slimmed
12:51
but my C is mostly poor
12:51
<loather-work>
my C is excellent. A little rusty these days from lack of use, but I used to be fluent.
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<johnny>
there's a few things i still want in ldm, trying to get my C knowing friend to do it, but he is kinda busy
12:53
i wanted timed autologin
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<mattwalston>
Using ubuntu gutsy with ltsp standalone I have amd64/pxelinux.0 but not i386/pxelinux.0 what do I need to do?
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<loather-work>
timed autologin would be nice
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<mattwalston>
Using ubuntu gutsy with ltsp standalone I have amd64/pxelinux.0 but not i386/pxelinux.0 what do I need to do?
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<loather-work>
install the i386 version of pxelinux?
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it's part of the syslinux package.
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<mattwalston>
loather-work: thanks... got me on the right path... fyi, in ubuntu ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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<loather-work>
ah, indeed
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<mattwalston>
not documented in the wiki... i guess i ought to find out hom to contribute
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<mattwalston>
my clients wont boot and display Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument... this issue is known but no one has posted a resolution
13:49
<Gadi>
mattwalston: sounds like the initramfs cannot find your rootfs
13:49
what distro?
13:52
ahh... I scrolled up - looks like you are on amd64 but building an i386 chroot
13:52
chances are you built that i386 chroot second
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and my guess is that your dhcpd.conf file still points to an amd64 chroot
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so, check /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and make sure references are to: /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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and not: /ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0
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then, restart dhcp
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<mattwalston>
ubuntu
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<mattwalston>
negative, in fact that is an extra problem
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dhcpd.conf is hard coded as i386
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could nbd be the problem?
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** (process:19101): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Unknown error
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<Gadi>
mattwalston: check /etc/inetd.conf
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: it appears normal
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<Gadi>
and /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: anything specific?
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<Gadi>
keep an eye on the ports
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: both refrence the correct port
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<Gadi>
default is 2000 for nbd
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for a second chroot, it will increment and have a kernel param
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<mattwalston>
yeah
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2001
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<Gadi>
and, ps -ale|grep nbd
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does it show nbd processes?
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<mattwalston>
no
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<Gadi>
it should once you boot the client
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<mattwalston>
when i attempt to start I get:
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** (process:19145): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Unknown error
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** Message: Nothing to do! Bye!
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<Gadi>
it should run out of inetd
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dont start by hand
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<mattwalston>
oh ok]
14:06
now this machine has xinetd
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<Gadi>
ah, that could be the problem
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did you uninstall inetd?
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you should use one or the other - not both
14:07
inetd is recommended
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for ubuntu
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<mattwalston>
no, did not uninstall
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<Gadi>
do you need xinetd?
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<mattwalston>
i am removing xinetd as it was only installed to get tftpd to work
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<Gadi>
or just more comfortable with it?
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<mattwalston>
no
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<Gadi>
nah
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tftp will run out of inetd
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after you remove xinetd, restart inetd
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then, reboot the client
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<mattwalston>
ok
14:10
it is doing more
14:12
it booted
14:12
thanks
14:13
<rance1>
Id like to setup ltsp in a lab setting for testing, problem is that the lab already has a working dhcp/pxe/tfpd environment complete with scripts that launch diskwipers, memtest, etc via the network, how hard would it be to integrate ltsp into that environment as a boot option from one of the menus?
14:13
I should say that dhcp/dns/tftp is all provided by dnsmasq in the lab
14:15
<mattwalston>
anyway to autologon a user for ltsp? idealy creating 2 x sessions
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<Gadi>
mattwalston: you on gutsy or feisty?
14:35
ideally, LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD in lts.conf
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<mattwalston>
gutsy
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<Gadi>
but I hear there are bugs in gutsy's autologin
14:35
but, give it a try
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: that causes X not to load
14:35
yeah
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<Gadi>
ah, then there is a patched ldm somewhere
14:36
check the ldm bugs on launchpad.net
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: also, what can be done to tweak start-up and operational speed? all hardware is identical
14:36
Gadi: oh I see
14:36
<Gadi>
you can use LDM_DIRECTX
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to increase session video performance
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: is their a complete list of options somewhere?
14:36
<Gadi>
yes
14:36
<mattwalston>
where?
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<Gadi>
heh
14:36
I knew you'd ask
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read /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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<mattwalston>
i have found a few partial lists but nothing seems official and complete
14:37
oh i see
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<Gadi>
in the comments, it points to a file on your server
14:37
nobody ever reads the comments ;)
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<mattwalston>
change it there not in tftpboot?
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<Gadi>
no change in tftpboot
14:38
read the comments
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<mattwalston>
oh ok
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<Gadi>
that should have been: yes - change in tftpboot
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<mattwalston>
Gadi: i see in docs
14:43
Gadi: thanks
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<Gadi>
np - gotta run
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<cliebow_>
mattwalston, there is a file in the chroot documenting usable lts.conf params
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<cliebow_>
:/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples$
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<lns>
Is there something I'm forgetting to do after installing Ubuntu w/ltsp to get pulseaudio support? I thought it was built in Gutsy
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<lns>
can anyone give me a url for a howto on getting PulseAudio working in Gutsy thin clients? I don't see it as an option in System -> Preferences -> Sound, and my gnome mixer applet is complaining too...
18:29
I forget how I got it going last time
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<Munkie>
ins: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
18:47
I think you need the sections on esound and gnome and maybe the package pulseaudio-esound-compat which sets up a few things too
18:49
lns: sorry bad eyes made me spell your nick wrong
18:49
<lns>
yikes..yeah, the perfectsetup page is nice but i know PA should be installed by default in gutsy..just not sure about ltsp chroot install (or if it needs anything special)
18:49
heh..lots of people do that
18:49
pulseaudio-esound-compat sounds familiar thou
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<Munkie>
its late, my eyes are red and burning and it still won't load the blasted nvidia module...I thnk I have to stop now. Nearly there though..
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<lns>
hmm...hopefully it's not as hard as getting ATI Radeon drivers going =p
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<Munkie>
I had to give up on pulseaudio as it seems to be alsa only and I of course use OSS. Ugh Radeon. Pulleeze. I had a work laptop with radeon chipset and it was a nightmare
18:52
<lns>
WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?? lol
18:52
<Munkie>
That was before the AMD takeover. I remember reading some topman's blurb over how wonderful and open things would be from now on. Did they get there yet I wonder? ;-)
18:53
<lns>
hahaha...NO
18:53
i know it's preaching to the choir in here but ... didn't people learn how to share in kindergarten?
18:54
<Munkie>
Sharing, isn't that like for people that have tihings?
18:55
<lns>
tihings?
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<Munkie>
Yeah, posessions and stuff
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<ari_stress>
morning all :D
18:56
<lns>
aaah
18:56
<Munkie>
morning
18:56
<lns>
hey ari_stress !
18:57
so what's up w/the ubuntu package 'ltsp-client' ? I don't remember using this before, but it seems to have lots of juicy dependencies
18:58
http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ltsp-client
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<BGomes>
ari_stress: night
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<Munkie>
er, rather goodnight. its 2am again....
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<lns>
Is this some sort of metapackage that makes ltsp installs easier?
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<BGomes>
Munkie: here is 21:58 pm
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<ari_stress>
i'm on GMT+7
18:59
wazzup everyone
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<lns>
wazzzzaaaap
19:00
can anyone tell me what that package is for, exactly?
19:00
<ari_stress>
guys, i setup a printer in client1. from client1 i can print to it ok. but from another client or from the server, i cannot print to it. do i need to set any configuration for it?
19:01
<lns>
ari_stress, afaik you have to set it up in lts.conf
19:01
<ari_stress>
the error message is "host is busy. will retry in 30 seconds"
19:01
lns, i have setup the printer in lts.conf for client1. should i setup again in lts.conf for another client that wants to print to it?
19:02
<lns>
ari_stress, no
19:02
ari_stress, how did you specify the client in lts.conf - mac, ip, hostname?
19:02
also, i ran into a problem with printing a couple weeks ago regarding apparmor (a new package regarding printing security in gutsy)
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<ari_stress>
lns: using mac, is it correct?
19:03
<lns>
ari_stress, mac should be fine
19:03
<ari_stress>
i'm using feisty, how do i check for apparmor?
19:04
<lns>
ari_stress, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530
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<ari_stress>
ok
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