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Channel log from 28 September 2009   (all times are UTC)

00:01
<map7>
I've already tried ' X_DEVICE_OPTION_01='"SWCursor" "1"'' in my lts.conf and that didn't change anything
00:05
<dberkholz>
did you actually shut down the client for ~5-10 seconds before rebooting?
00:05
sometimes these things can persist across warm reboots
00:05
<map7>
each time I've made sure I'm doing a cold boot on the client
00:06
<dberkholz>
hmm. if you're using an older radeon driver, SWcursor might actually default off instead of on. have you tried 0 instead of 1?
00:07
<map7>
Yes I have, there was no difference
00:08
<dberkholz>
next thing i'd do is look for a newer version of the driver to try
00:08
<map7>
I'm not sure if that syntax is correct it could be ignoring that line in the config file
00:09
<dberkholz>
take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the client when it's booted
00:09
should be easy to tell what's there and what's not
00:09
i need to go to bed, it's past midnight here. good luck with your problem
00:09
<map7>
thanks
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00:43
<johnny>
/me wonders where dberkholz is that it is past midnight
00:43
must not be his normal stomping grounds
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05:24
<leOn>
hello
05:26
in version 5 of ltsp, from what i know, xdmcp was abbandoned in favour of an ssh tunnel, and seems like remote device mounting, such as pen drives is no longer supported .. could someone confirm this for me?
05:29
<ogra>
localdevice access works fine with ltsp5
05:29
thats what the tunnel is used for :)
05:30
(among all other extra features)
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06:07
<leOn>
ogra: could you point me to the docs detailing that part?
06:07
<ogra>
!docs
06:07
<ltspbot>
ogra: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
06:08
<ogra>
the tunnel is the core communication channel for everything
06:08
<leOn>
ogra: i've been looking that the html version of that document, but found nothing regarding the remote mounting of local volumes ...
06:09
<ogra>
well, ltspfs uses the tunnel for issuing the mount commands on the server once a local device is detected
06:11
i.e: you plug in a device, udev notices it, notifies ltspfsd through an udev script, that calls ltspfs on the server side to start a network mount with the ltspfs protocol ... if the mount is successfull, a dir owned by the user is creasted in /media/$USER/<devicename>
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06:12
<ogra>
the communication for all this happens through the ssh tunnel
06:22
<leOn>
hmm.. think the problem might have to do with group membership (fuse)
06:23
<ogra>
yes, ltspfs uses a fuse based FS
06:29
<leOn>
awsome
06:29
http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg33167.html
06:29
this solved my problem
06:30
=)
06:30
very neat trick .. should be in the wiki IMO
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08:52
<sbalneav>
leOn: So, go ahead and put it there :)
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09:54
<jammcq>
Gooood morning everyone
09:54
sbalneav: ping
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09:54
<cliebow>
!j
09:54
<ltspbot>
cliebow: "j" is jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:55
<jammcq>
cliebow: hey, it's getting close to lahbstah time
09:55
<cliebow>
you bet!
09:55* jammcq was in Boston last week and had a wonderful lobster meal
09:55
<cliebow>
looks like a good turnout
09:55
cool!
10:03
<CAN-o-SPAM>
hey jammcq!
10:04
<sbalneav>
jammcq: Pongity
10:05
<cliebow>
heh
10:05
<jammcq>
sbalneav: hey
10:06
sbalneav: weren't we talking about having a hackfest in europe sometime?
10:06* cliebow cliebow listens loningly
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10:13
<sbalneav>
jammcq: Sure!
10:14
How about we hit up our buddy ogra to scope out a cheap venue for us somewhere in Deutchland
10:14
<jammcq>
that might work
10:15* ogra can do that
10:15
<jammcq>
but for now, let's keep it open to other areas too
10:15
<sbalneav>
Well, sure.
10:15
<jammcq>
ogra: what's the big city near you?
10:15
<sbalneav>
I'm just throwing idears out ther.
10:15
<ogra>
hannover or frankfurt are equally near
10:15
i live in the middle between them
10:15
<jammcq>
frankfurt is really easy to get to, because of the big airport
10:16
or flughaft
10:16
<dro>
you guys having a meeting about ltsp?
10:16
<cliebow>
dro:yup!
10:16
<ogra>
kassel (where i live) would be cheap and surely easy to find smth. but its an additional 1.5h trainride from the airport
10:16
<jammcq>
dro: just discussing possibility of having a LTSP hackfest somewhere in europe
10:16
<sbalneav>
Or, maybe alkisg might like to host us somewhere in in .gr
10:16
<jammcq>
trainrides are perfectly OK in my mind
10:16
<dro>
cliebow: hwo far in the future?
10:16* alkisg reads up...
10:17
<jammcq>
dro: i'm thinking next summer or so
10:17
<sbalneav>
See mount olympus
10:17
<ogra>
jammcq, depends when you arrive :)
10:17
<cliebow>
dro:this is jut in the hash stage..
10:17
<dro>
I live in the US, wonder if my boss would send me out
10:17
<ogra>
jammcq, trains only go until 11pm in germany
10:17
<alkisg>
Sure!!!! I'd be glad to! :)
10:17
<cliebow>
dro:how about Maine?
10:17
<jammcq>
dro: you could come to our hackfest in Maine in 3 weeks
10:17
<alkisg>
Summer is better, nice beatches over here... ;)
10:17
<dro>
jammcq: thats an idea! whats the date
10:17
<ogra>
jammcq, if your plane arrives late you're screwed and have to pay an extra hoteö
10:17
*hotel
10:18
<sbalneav>
We could twist Asmo's arm to come.
10:18
<cliebow>
dro oct 22-25
10:18
<jammcq>
ogra: everytime I've flown to frankfurt, I arrived early in the morning
10:18
<dro>
cliebow: cool i'll see whta I can do
10:18
city in maine?
10:18
<ogra>
sbalneav, we could open a donation pot ;)
10:18
<cliebow>
look on wiki.ltsp.org for deatails of bts
10:19
<ogra>
jammcq, well, from the US, yes :)
10:19
<cliebow>
dro:well not exactly a city..more a hamlet..Tremont
10:19
<jammcq>
dro: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2009
10:19
ogra: in all likelyhood, somewhere in Germany would probably be the easiest
10:20
<ogra>
its pretty central
10:20
<jammcq>
it's easy to get there, easy to get around, has good beer
10:20
<CAN-o-SPAM>
jammcq: are you driving again?
10:20
<jammcq>
what more could we ask for
10:20
CAN-o-SPAM: yes
10:20
<ogra>
romania would be 5% of the pricing though :)
10:20
<jammcq>
well... driving to Maine. Not driving to Germany
10:20
oh?
10:20
<CAN-o-SPAM>
heh
10:20
<ogra>
or hungary
10:20
<jammcq>
I could do romania
10:20
<ogra>
or something else in the east
10:20
<jammcq>
yes, I'm hungary
10:20
lunch is coming soon
10:20
<ogra>
haha
10:20
<CAN-o-SPAM>
jammcq: i think RCC is going in my place
10:20
<jammcq>
how about finland?
10:21
CAN-o-SPAM: super. are you going to LA ?
10:21
<ogra>
big distances ... i have no experoience with .fi
10:21
<CAN-o-SPAM>
jammcq: thats the plan
10:21
<cliebow>
norway?
10:21
<alkisg>
Hungary for Turkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAMA9P-4qCk
10:21
<cliebow>
ehere is ragnar?probably houston
10:22
<CAN-o-SPAM>
jammcq: you have any interested in Admin privs on LinkedIn LTSP group? Or twitter uname/pass?
10:22
<jammcq>
cliebow: ragnar won't be joining us this year :( He's got a college reunion to attend
10:22
CAN-o-SPAM: prolly not necessary
10:23
<CAN-o-SPAM>
k
10:23
<cliebow>
ok..too bad..
10:24
<ogra>
jammcq, pfft, he could do that at the next reunion in 20 years as well :P
10:24
lame excuse imho
10:25
<jammcq>
well... just a misplaced sense of priorities
10:25
<ogra>
i have an ubuntu release to babysit and am still coming :P
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10:40
<alkisg>
Can anyone test a new ica-launcher script?
10:40
<Ahmuck_Sr>
what's an ica-launcher
10:40
<alkisg>
It's for italc
10:41
<Ahmuck_Sr>
btw, knowing it's not the network, what else could be slowing things down. didn't you say you were getting x fps on a low end pc?
10:41
<alkisg>
Ahmuck_Sr: I'm in the middle of hacking ica-launcher, can we talk about this later?
10:41
<jammcq>
hey alkisg: if we had a LTSP hackfest in Germany, would you be able to join us?
10:42
<Ahmuck_Sr>
alkisg i'm in no rush
10:42
<alkisg>
jammcq: I'd try really hard - but I got 3 little kids, so I can't promise anything :(
10:42
<Ahmuck_Sr>
ltsp hackfest, as in coders?
10:42
<jammcq>
alkisg: we're talking next summer, possibly.
10:42
Ahmuck_Sr: anybody
10:43
<alkisg>
Unless some major problem occurs, I'm there! :)
10:43
<jammcq>
we'll talk more later, to see what works for people
10:44
<alkisg>
Sure... keep in mind that Greece has beautiful seas and islands ;)
10:44
<jammcq>
oooh, Asmo is offering something in Finland to get us there
10:45
KDE's Akademy will be in Finland around late June or early July
10:45* alkisg needs to find some cool photos of greek islands with cheeks etc to raise the stakes... :P
10:46
<jammcq>
cheeks? or chicks ?
10:46
<ogra>
lol
10:46
akademy
10:47* ogra isnt really eager about being bashed to death
10:47
<alkisg>
Ooops
10:47
<Ahmuck_Sr>
nobody makes hardware in ivory anymore
10:57
<alkisg>
stgraber or anyone else: to get a list of the ports in use in a computer, I do: netstat -nap 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's/unix[^0-9]*[0-9]*[^0-9]*\([0-9]*\).*/\1/p;s/tcp[^:]*:\([0-9]*\).*/\1/p;s/udp[^:]*:\([0-9]*\).*/\1/p' | sort -n
10:57
But vino doesn't show in those ports... how could I detect if it's running? With nc?
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11:12
<dro>
*Dances* Looks like there is a good chance I'll be at ByTheSea2009
11:12
<jammcq>
dro: awesome. Just add your info to the wiki page
11:12
dro: where are you coming from?
11:14
<dro>
Oklahoma
11:14
I will when my boss confirms it
11:14
<jammcq>
wow, cool
11:15
dro: there may be a boat ride on thursday afternoon, for the people who can be there by noon or so.
11:16
<dro>
not sure when I would arrive, probably be friday in the morning though
11:16
<jammcq>
k
11:16
I gotta run out for a bit. I'll be back
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11:39
<maxagaz>
hi
11:39
hi alkisg
11:39
<alkisg>
Hi
11:39
Did you have any progress?
11:40* Lns waves to #ltsp ppl
11:42
<Lns>
I'm hoping to get anyone interested in getting some momentum behind this Open Office / LTSP bug to visit http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=97906 and comment... There seems to be no movement by the OOo team and I think we need to get more voices/votes in for them to take it more seriously.
11:43
If you can, test it out on your clients (especially if they have =< 128MB) and you'll most likely see them crash after changing slides 5-7 times.
11:48
<Guest1151>
it's not voices that are needed Lns
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11:48
<johnny>
it's somebody to do it ..
11:48
<Lns>
johnny: the more people that tell them they're being affected, the more likely someone will be to hop on it and spend time fixing it.
11:49
Right now it's just one person (me). They're going to pay more attention to bugs that affect many more people.
11:52
<CAN-o-SPAM>
Lns: it's out to the twitter world.
11:52
<Lns>
thanks CAN-o-SPAM ! =)
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12:00
<johnny>
Lns, perhaps send a note to ltsp-discuss for people to vote on it, also to the linkedin group
12:01
<Lns>
johnny: good idea :)
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12:39
<maxagaz>
alkisg, sorry, i just saw you message
12:40
<ph27>
is gnome-watchdog the best way to clean up orphaned processes when someone just pulls the plug on an ltsp client?
12:41
<shawnp0wers>
Is there an lts.conf example file anywhere downloadable, with many of the useful options listed either commented out or with the default values?
12:41
I'm setting up some Ubuntu LTSP machines
12:41
<johnny>
shawnp0wers, sorta
12:42
look for lts-parameters.txt.gz
12:42
<shawnp0wers>
ok - I hand't unzipped that yet, but thanks
12:42
<maxagaz>
no, still the same error message after removing /opt/ltsp/i386 and reinstalling the thinclient with: ltsp-build-client ; ltsp-update-sshkeys ; ltsp-update-image
12:42
<johnny>
you never need to run sshkeys after install unless you changed the ip since
12:42
so the last 2 steps were pointless
12:42
<maxagaz>
i still can't log with my user/passwd
12:43
<johnny>
and your users are on the server?
12:43
try ssh from a different computer
12:43
<maxagaz>
alkisg
12:43
<johnny>
don't try to log into the same user you already have logged in either
12:43
via gui
12:44
<maxagaz>
johnny, yes, the users are on the server
12:45
<shawnp0wers>
johnny: eiw, just explanations, not an actual default file. Ok, I'll go make one. :)
12:45
<johnny>
then make sure ssh works was one of those users
12:45
shawnp0wers, most people don't need any of the options
12:45
it would just confuse people
12:45
<shawnp0wers>
well, until they DO need the options
12:45
;)
12:45
<johnny>
altho fedora does do one iirc
12:45
check in the ltsp bzr repo for what fedora has
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12:45
<johnny>
altho it might be in their rpm
12:46
<alkisg>
shawnp0wers: if you make a good lts.conf example, do submit it to ltsp-developer for the devs to consider putting it upstream :)
12:46
<maxagaz>
johnny, alkisg it works... :D
12:46
<alkisg>
maxagaz: I really don't know why it isn't working for you. ^H^H^H^H^H^ really?
12:46
What was wrong?
12:47
<maxagaz>
alkisg, johnny, it was because my keyboard on the server is azerty, and this of the thinclient is qwerty !!
12:47
<alkisg>
I was *just* thinking about keyboard layouts... :(
12:47
<maxagaz>
alkisg, johnny, i figured it out when trying to log with another user as johnny suggested
12:47
<johnny>
alkisg, we already have on in fedora
12:48
<alkisg>
But why did it work with ssh? The layout didn't take effect?
12:48
johnny: could you please put it to pastebot?
12:48
<johnny>
i don't know where it is
12:48
i just know warren provides one
12:48
<alkisg>
OK
12:49
johnny: in Ubuntu, there is one there: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts.conf
12:49
...but it's not as good as e.g. the example dnsmasq.conf from the dnsmasq package...
12:50
<johnny>
well maxagaz i'm glad you figured it out :)
12:50
<maxagaz>
alkisg, because on the tty2, the keyboard layout was qwerty
12:50
<alkisg>
Heh... lesson learned: 1234 is the best password ever :P
12:50
<johnny>
there might be an lts.conf variable for that?
12:51
<maxagaz>
alkisg, ;)
12:51
<sbalneav>
shawnp0wers:
12:51
!docs
12:51
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
12:51
<sbalneav>
^^^
12:52
<maxagaz>
alkisg, now, i've two new steps to do... making thin client boot without the grub on the harddrive, and then making it boot with the dhcp on my router
12:53
<alkisg>
maxagaz: well... is your router configurable? can it provide a boot filename?
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, it seems it can
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12:54
<alkisg>
...and a next-server == tftp server?
12:54
If so, yeah, you could do that easily...
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12:54
<alkisg>
I don't know about the booting problem, though. Does it really say realtek pxe? without mentioning intel at all?
12:54
<maxagaz>
alkisg, i'd like to solve first the pxe problem
12:55
<alkisg>
maxagaz: no, don't start with that
12:55
Do them both together
12:55
Because your bios may be semi-broken and not work with dhcp3-server, but it may work with your router dhcp server, or vice versa
12:55
So better go for the final configuration at once...
12:55
<maxagaz>
alkisg, i see
12:56
<alkisg>
To test the router, you also have gpxe
12:56
<maxagaz>
alkisg, so actually, i have nothing to change in my bios config right ?
12:56
<alkisg>
Well... if you see the pxe boot prompt, trying to acquire a dhcp address, and it fails, I don't see what else you can do from the bios
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<alkisg>
...and you checked the cables (i.e. you put it to the mainboard nic), so...??? just test with your router now.
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<alkisg>
maxagaz: you could also try *removing* the other nic, in case the bios gets mixed up.
12:58
<maxagaz>
alkisg, yes i did those tests...
12:59
alkisg, good idea
12:59
alkisg, i'm checking the router's config...
12:59
<alkisg>
OK, try with gpxe first
12:59
<maxagaz>
there is something about tftp...
13:00
file: r402mv2.bin, and tftp server ip: 192.168.1.101
13:01
<alkisg>
Right. Change it to /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 and tftp server = the ltsp server.
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, the file name can't exceed 20 chars, and it's 21 chars!
13:07
alkisg, can i use an alias ?
13:07
<alkisg>
maxagaz: then you'll need to move them in your server dir
13:08
e.g. do a copy of all i386/* to ..
13:08
ah sorry
13:08
yeah you're right
13:08
/ltsp/i386/pxe.0 => symlinked to pxelinux.0
13:09
<maxagaz>
alkisg, without /opt at the begining of the path ?
13:09
<alkisg>
No, those files are in /var/lib/tftpboot
13:10
<maxagaz>
ok, sorry
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, ok, now i have "pxelinux.0 -> ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" in /var/lib/tftpboot
13:12
<alkisg>
No no don't do that
13:12
Make a symlink in the same dir
13:13
I.e. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxe.0 => pxelinux.0
13:13
This way you won't have to make symlinks for the kernel and other dirs etc
13:13
So the filename for your router would be: /ltsp/i386/pxe.0
13:14
(all the paths are relative to the tftpboot dir)
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, ok :) (it seems I was gonna broke my router)
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, the file was refused by the router
13:18
<alkisg>
Meaning? it doesn't want slashes?
13:19
<maxagaz>
it says "the version number is incorrect"
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<alkisg>
Hrmwhat?
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, "check again your file"
13:20
alkisg, i'm perhaps in the wrong place...
13:21
alkisg, the router is in chinese actually, i can't change the language...
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<alkisg>
maxagaz: if you don't manage to do it with your router, here's an alternative: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
13:21
This way you keep your router as a dhcp server, but your ltsp-server provides the boot filename.
13:22
<maxagaz>
alkisg, it seems i'm in the page to update the router, not to configure the tftp boot
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<alkisg>
Heh!
13:22
You were about to flash the router.. nice :)
13:23
<maxagaz>
alkisg, :)
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<alkisg>
stgraber: ping?
13:30
<maxagaz>
alkisg, thanks a lot for your help
13:30
<alkisg>
You're welcome
13:30
<maxagaz>
alkisg, i will keep this step for tomorrow
13:31
<alkisg>
Sure... give yourself enough time to learn chinese :P :D
13:32
<maxagaz>
alkisg, but could you explain me how this works, i mean, how the thin client knows on which dhcp-server to take its informations from ?
13:32
<alkisg>
maxagaz: there's only 1 dhcp server
13:32
The other one is complementary, it only adds the filename + the next-server dhcp options
13:33
It doesn't send an IP or other dhcp stuff.
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<maxagaz>
alkisg, and this modem/router has a story! it was bought by a guy working in a foreign company in beijing, because it was only in chinese, he wrote "out of service" on it and through it until someone found it and gave it to me :)
13:38
alkisg, if i had two ltsp server, how the thin would make its choice, and i could i influence this choice ?
13:38
s/i/how
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<alkisg>
In a usual setup, you'd use *one* dhcp server, *one* tftp server, and two ltsp servers
13:39
You'd point to the correct ltsp server either with nbdroot, or with ldm_server in lts.conf
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<alkisg>
stgraber: I'm trying to make the italc's 5800/5900/10000/11000 ports configurable, mainly for the case that they're already in use. ica-launcher is ready, it correctly (I hope) selects another port if the one requested is in use. My problem is how can italc-launcher learn about the port that ica-launcher selected...
13:43
<maxagaz>
alkisg, in such usual setup, which server speaks the first a client when it's booting ? (even if the client doesn't use one or the other service) ?
13:44
alkisg, s/speak/speak to
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<alkisg>
Server "A" is a dhcp / tftp / ltsp server. Server "B" is only an ltsp server.
13:44
So, server "A" would be the first one to speak to all the clients
13:45
Then, the clients would select whichever server *you* told them to select, either A or B.
13:45
You could do that based on mac address, based on a random number or however you want.
13:50
<maxagaz>
alkisg, thanks again!
13:51
alkisg, i'll tell you again tomorrow about my tests if you are here
13:51
alkisg, good night!
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<warren>
Anyone still touching ltsp-trunk? I need to tag soon.
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<Remaille>
hi
14:31
I have a tricky problem in my school with LTSP
14:31
I would like to do that : http://img180.imageshack.us/i/ltspserveur01.png/
14:31
<shawnp0wers>
Hmm... i'm not sure where to ask other than here -- are there still REALLY long bootup issue with some thin clients?
14:32
ie, the HP-5000 series
14:32
<Remaille>
what could i do with my PXE menu (I guess this is the point) ? thanks
14:33
maybe it is a "mode" in wich LTSP can not work ?
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<warren>
I'm tagging ltsp-trunk
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<dro>
Remaille: so what are you really trying to do? have a windows dhcp server issue dhcp to pxe client?
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<Remaille>
dro, yes
14:49
serveur01 is a windows 2003 server
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and we can't use another DHCP (forbidden)
14:49
<dro>
Remaille: how many nics in your ltsp server
14:49
<Remaille>
dro, nics ?
14:49
<dro>
network interface cards
14:50
<Remaille>
ah ok : one
14:50
<dro>
perfect and what release?
14:50
ubuntu?
14:50
<Remaille>
yes
14:50
<dro>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
14:50
look for windows dhcp
14:51
gives you a howto with screenshots
14:51
search for: LTSPWindowsDHCP
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<dro>
Remaille: the howto tells you to make a reservation for the specific mac address, but i didn't in my setup
14:52
i just used the default scope, which is what I suggest you do
14:52
it won't hurt for your regular clients to receive the extra stuff
14:53
<Remaille>
ok thanks :)
14:53
dro, in the PXE menu we must keep a "norton ghost" entry
14:54
if we do that will this entry will work ?
14:54
<dro>
Remaille: define pxe menu
14:54
Remaille: one of the scope options is for norton ghost?
14:54
<Remaille>
pxe menu loads perfectly
14:54
yes item 1 : ghost
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item 2 : LTSP
14:55
<dro>
Remaille: so you want a duel boot type setup?
14:55
Remaille: dual boot type setup
14:55
<Remaille>
hem yes, that's it
14:55
<dro>
where the client boots up, and you press 1 to boot into norton ghost and then 2 for PXE
14:55
and now, it just boots directly to pxe correct?
14:56
<Remaille>
when you boot on the network, students can choose LTSP of Ghost (password protected, just for admins)
14:56
menu 1, with ghost stuff is working ok
14:56
<dro>
Remaille: but menu 2 with pxe is not?
14:56
<Remaille>
we would like to configure properly menu 2
14:56
yes that menu 2 should say to the client where ltsp server is
14:57
<dro>
Remaille: ok so when the pc boots up, you only get Option 1, and you want to add Option 2 that is pxe, correct?
14:57
<Remaille>
and where in kernel to load, where is nfs (if i understood things properly)
14:57
exact :)
14:58
<dro>
Remaille: ok my first question is how did you get norton to be Option 1? is it loaded directly onto the hard drive?
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<Remaille>
dro (sorry) no with pxe
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i copy/paste a part of tis menu
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<dro>
Remaille: wait
14:59
use pastebin
14:59
!pastebin
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<ltspbot>
dro: "pastebin" is try !pastebot
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<dro>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
dro: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
15:00
<Remaille>
http://pastebin.com/m4ab261ff
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<dro>
Remaille: ok so you have configure dhcp scope options to boot to norton ghost
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<ltsppbot>
"remaille" pasted "DEFAULT vesamenu.c32 menuconf/" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/563
15:01
<Remaille>
yes
15:01
menu 1 is working, ghost "kernel" loads from server (not on HD) so that admins can backup or whatever
15:02
problem is menu 2
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<dro>
Remaille: what OS is on the hard drive
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<Remaille>
on the client ? OS is not used in PXE, ghost kernel is sent by the serveur
15:02
on serveur : 2003
15:02
on ltsp : ubuntu 9.04
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<Remaille>
LABEL GHOST : is working
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<dro>
Remaille: i understand what you're trying to do
15:03
<Remaille>
LABEL LTSP : no,
15:04
sorry dro it is difficult to explain when you don't know exactly where the problem is ! ;-)
15:04
art of problem solving ;)
15:04
<dro>
Remaille: i understand, give me a couple minutes
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<Remaille>
I would be very gratefull, if we could solve this :) the problem will be the same for the otehrs schools in my district
15:05
and we are quite a few willig to uses LTSP and Linux in our schools (SW of France)
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<dro>
Remaille: so what pxe info do you need to add to your config file?
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<Remaille>
you mean the pxelinux.0/default ?
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or something like that
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<dro>
# 017 Root Path: /opt/ltsp/i386
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#
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066 Boot Server Host Name: <ip address>
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# 067 Bootfile Name: ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 # for Edgy and up
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# 067 Bootfile Name: ltsp/pxelinux.0 # for Dapper
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<Remaille>
pxelinux.cfg\default
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<dro>
Remaille: do you already have those scope options set in your windows scope for ghost?
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<Remaille>
i don't know
15:10
i think all is default
15:10
dhcp server is tftpd32
15:10
not widows built in one
15:10
if i change it will it affect ghost ?
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<dro>
Remaille: you tell me, you're the one with the server
15:12
Remaille: but to save you the trouble, sounds like you can either boot to one or the other
15:12
Remaille: not both at the same time
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<sbalneav>
Remaille: I suspect you'll have better luck on either the Etherboot or gPXE lists and/or channels. You're problem really isn't an LTSP problem, it's a problem with the PXE bootloader and/or menu.
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<dro>
sbalneav: agreed
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<Remaille>
yes you are right, ltsp works fine when he is the dhcp server...
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<sbalneav>
It will ultimately depend on the PXE implementation on the thin clients wether or not they will even support the menu options.
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<Remaille>
actually, it load a PXE menu
15:16
thnaks btw ! :-)
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<dro>
Remaille: goodluck
15:16
<Remaille>
yes, I need some... ;)
15:22
<cg_uira>
hi, I have installed ltsp in ubuntu 8.04
15:22
I installer directly from alternate cd
15:22
I have a previous dhcp server in another machine
15:23
I have disabled dhcp3-server from the ltsp server with # update-rc.d -f dhcp3-server remove
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But, now when I do: ps -ef | grep dhcp3-server
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I obtain: root 6458 6447 0 15:56 pts/0 00:00:00 grep dhcp3-server
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<dro>
cg_uira: type sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server stop
15:25
cg_uira: sudo apt-get remove dhcp3-server
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<cg_uira>
I did, but it fail
15:26
<dro>
well really, read this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
15:26
<cg_uira>
if I remove or purge the package, remove ltsp-standalone too
15:26
<Remaille>
cg_uira, "root 6458 6447 0 15:56 pts/0 00:00:00 grep dhcp3-server" juste means that "root" ahs performed a grep
15:27
no other dhcp things, so dhcp is stopped
15:27
<dro>
Remaille: you are correct i missed that
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<Remaille>
try ps -ef | grep stupid_name
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<cg_uira>
It's not running?
15:27
<Remaille>
:)
15:27
yes
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<dro>
cg_uira: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server stop
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cg_uira: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status
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<dro>
cg_uira: follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
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<cg_uira>
dro: thank you, I do it
15:32
/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status > Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
15:32
It,s true not running...thanks
15:33
<Remaille>
anyway, behavior of ps -ef | grep * seems strange
15:33
and confusing
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<cg_uira>
yes, I don't understand because is the same output that my active dhcp server
15:35
for that I think that two dhcp server was running
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<sbalneav>
Remaille: It's prefectly logical. The "grep" shows up in the command list.
15:45
If you DON'T want to see a search term, use the following bit of magic.
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<sbalneav>
ps -ef | grep "[Dd]hcp"
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<Remaille>
:-o
15:46
<sbalneav>
Since this causes grep to look for either "Dhcp" or "dhcp", but it will never find the actual string "d]hcp" since there's a ] in between
15:47
"Stand back, I know regular expressions"
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: put the regular expressions down and nobody will get hurt
15:47
<sbalneav>
[Nn]|[Nn]o
15:48
:)
15:48
<jammcq>
[Yy](es){0,1}
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<sbalneav>
"Most people, when encountering a problem, think 'I know, I'll use regular expressions!' Now they have 2 problems"
15:51
http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2005-March/000268.html
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That's one big regex
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<dro>
I have a feeling I am going to be very quiet at the BTS
15:53
you kills will walk in syntax to me like a foreign language
15:53
*talk not walk
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<sbalneav>
Nah
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Some work gets done at the BTS, but IMHO, it's more of a "team building" excercise than anything else.
16:05* Lns wishes he could afford to go :( stupid family members getting married and traveling for the holidays has me broke.
16:05
<Lns>
not stupid..just stupid that i'm broke because of it ;)
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<jammcq>
Lns: there's always next year. we do this every year
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<Lns>
yeah, i was really excited about going though =(
16:08
i hope you guys have a blast though!
16:08
drink a pint for me =)
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<jammcq>
i'm certain we will
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<Lns>
hehe
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<dro>
lol
16:18
how many ppl normally show up
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<jammcq>
dro: 15-18
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<dro>
cool
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ok guys i'm out for the day
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i'm going to home and drink many pints
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lol
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night
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<shawnp0wers>
_UsUrPeR_: You around?
17:33
I'm pulling my hair out with sound in flash when firefox is a local app
17:33
sound works if the lts.conf is set to SOUND=True
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but after a few seconds of playing flash audio, it quits
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there was a discussion about whether sound could be enabled for only local apps OR server apps
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but I can't seem to figure out how to enable sound for local apps if SOUND=False is set in the lts.conf file...
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<Ahmuck_Sr>
i've got the same problem as well shawnp0wers
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<map7>
If I've updated the kernel in the ltsp image how do I tell the client to boot from that? (I'm running LTSP5, Ubuntu 9.04 i386 32bit)
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<johnny>
ltsp-update-kernels && ltsp-update-image
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<map7>
that's it, i forgot about ltsp-update-kernels thanks
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