IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 June 2014   (all times are UTC)

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01:32
<Asterisks>
Why is ubuntu, and linux in general, so hateful to the end user...
01:32
<jstraw>
in what way?
01:32
<vagrantc>
because Ubuntu is linux for Humans
01:34
<Asterisks>
jstraw: every time I touch a desktop linux OS, I end up spending 1/2 my time fixing shit that shouldn't be an issue
01:34
<jstraw>
I don't tend to have that issue
01:34
my only issue is firefox vs no ram
01:34
<Asterisks>
jstraw: really, what world do you live in
01:34
<jstraw>
one where I check hardware before installing :)
01:35
most of the time, if you buy hardware that you know is good, you can do quite well
01:36
<Asterisks>
jstraw: virtualbox. ubuntu 14.04. resolution wouldn't go over 800x600, still won't go over 1024x768.
01:36
clean install. this is shit that should work every time.
01:36* Asterisks apologizes for language
01:36
<jstraw>
honestly, virtualbox is a pile of shit
01:36
use kvm or xen
01:38
<Asterisks>
mac osx host
01:39
<jstraw>
then get vmware or parallels
01:39
virtualbox worked terribly for me on every platform I have used it on
01:41
<Asterisks>
I'm not paying for virtualization software that I might use once a year.
01:41
especially not the insane prices that they ask for vmware and/or parallels
01:42
I feel like ubuntu's problem is they kick their stuff out the door before it's out of diapers.
01:43
they should have their LATEST version as a dev version, and their runner up version as the reccommened.
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02:25
<lns>
Asterisks, Ubuntu has been this way for eons. I ditched them as a desktop/LTSP OS about 5 years ago and went back to Debian. Haven't looked back.
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02:27* lns thinks it's interesting how people feel justified in their animosity toward software and the people who make it as long as it isn't a strictly community project...i.e. there is a company behind it who [ is attempting to ] make money from it
02:28
<Asterisks>
Believe me, I dislike microsoft and apple is meh
02:28
<lns>
Ultimately, the bugs in it are their responsibility, not yours, to fix.
02:29
<Asterisks>
but at least windows works most of the time and my mac is always working
02:29
<lns>
Asterisks, Windows works most of the time? :)
02:29
<Asterisks>
most of the time, it has it's faults. I keep it on my desktop cause i use it pimarily for gaming
02:30
<lns>
Asterisks, what do you think about SteamOS?
02:30
<Asterisks>
havn't used it, it's linux based, isn't it?
02:30
if it is, I'm assuming most of steams actual games won't run on it
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02:31
<lns>
Asterisks, you'd be surprised how many are supported
02:31
<Asterisks>
I know several are
02:31
but i know csgo isn't yet
02:31
and without csgo, I have 0 reason to bother with it as that's the game i primarily play
02:31
<lns>
And if it became supported?
02:32
<Asterisks>
I might consider switching to something like debian or something, though i do have other games that are still windows only
02:32
<lns>
Steam is Debian based too
02:33
err..steamos
02:33
<Asterisks>
yeah, but i do use my desktop for a bit more than JUST games
02:33
<lns>
like?
02:33
<Asterisks>
I use it for my web development a good bit
02:33
one screen for code, other for live site
02:33
<lns>
darn, and Windows is totally the best environment for web dev work ;)
02:33
<Asterisks>
yes, yes it is
02:33
<lns>
lol
02:33
<Asterisks>
photoshop is the best tool for designing, though i can do it on my macbook
02:34* lns stares down the abyss
02:34
<Asterisks>
lol
02:35
<lns>
Linux *is* user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are. :)
02:35
<Asterisks>
exactly
02:36
<lns>
I definitely don't see that as a bad thing for Linux..personally I don't want a bunch of people whining and complaining that they can't do something and expect someone to jump up and say, "I'LL FIX IT!"...because, after all, that's how the open source community works!
02:36
(I should shut up, I don't know why I'm in such a sarcastic mood)
02:37
<Asterisks>
I don't mind working through problems, but I don't have the time or patience to work through problems every time i try to do something
02:38
<lns>
Asterisks, I wouldn't blame Ubuntu on VirtualBox woes. That stuff is tricky to get perfect. I've always had issues with things like connecting USB devices, its just the nature of virtualization.
02:39
But you mentioned that the stuff you had issues with were "things that shouldn't be broken in the first place"...I feel exactly the same way, but about Windows.
02:39
<Asterisks>
oh, it happens on windows, too
02:39
<lns>
But you get to pay for those issues ;)
02:40
<Asterisks>
but while I've had problems finding drivers and stuff for windows, I've never spent 3 hours sitting trying to get the X-Server running on a windows computer
02:41
<lns>
Asterisks, wow, I haven't had issues like that with Linux for many years
02:41
You use NVidia or something?
02:41
<Asterisks>
it was a nvidia card, though that mattering is debatable
02:41* lns is fond of the memory of frying a CRT monitor because he miscrafted his xfree86.conf file
02:42
<Asterisks>
It was on old hardware with xubuntu lucid, but it was an old, mass produced, card so it not being supported AT ALL was a bit stupid
02:42
<lns>
Asterisks, regarding NVidia in Linux... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ ;) (NSFW)
02:44
<Asterisks>
it's hardware, linux should be able to support it.
02:44
especially considering the ubuntu project has time to make an entire (shitty and unneeded) window manager just for themselves, making a graphics card supported should be piss-easy
02:45
<lns>
Asterisks, I think you don't understand the open source ecosystem and what roles proprietary hardware manufacturers play in getting their stuff supported.
02:47
<Asterisks>
there are open source drivers for graphics
02:47
I know, it was one of them that FINALLY worked on the aformentioned system
02:48
and i imagine that proprietary hardware manufactures have a large part in it in many cases, however I don't think that the open source community puts enough pressure on them to keep them working
02:49
and if anything i just said makes no sense, i'm tired as hell.
03:10
<work_alkisg>
Asterisks: either install the vbox guest additions or add extra vesa modes. They're both documented in its manual. No, it wasn't supposed to run out of the box in something other than 800x600...
03:11
<Asterisks>
work_alkisg: the problem was i had the guest additions installed and it didn't work. I'm not thick
03:11
<work_alkisg>
Were did you install those? In the chroot?
03:12
<Asterisks>
work_alkisg: I wasn't talking abou LTSP, I was talking about a default, clean ubuntu install
03:12
bit off topic, but considering the normal conversatino here i wasn't exactly derailing anything
03:13
<work_alkisg>
You have ubuntu in a vbox VM, with guest additions installed, and it's not showing something other than 800x600? What's the output of `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA`?
03:13
(inside the VM)
03:14
<Asterisks>
work_alkisg: I fiddled enough and finally did a fullscreen thing that got 1024x768 but that's not exactly fantastic
03:14
will run though
03:15
<work_alkisg>
Virtualbox does have its issues, but I never had resolution issues with it after configuring it properly
03:15
Also, #virtualbox is a dedicated channel for it
03:16
<Asterisks>
http://i.imgur.com/9OzGxRv.png
03:16
fail to see how it's a virtualbox issue, seems more like an ubuntu issue
03:16
<work_alkisg>
Asterisks: the next line is missing
03:16
Driver in use?
03:16
<Asterisks>
which line?
03:16
<work_alkisg>
$ lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
03:16
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] [1002:68f9]
03:16
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:04a5]
03:16
Kernel driver in use: radeon
03:16
I care about that final line
03:16
Driver in use: xxx
03:17
<Asterisks>
http://i.imgur.com/Oxr5QD9.png not there
03:17
<work_alkisg>
So the guest additions were not installed properly
03:17
(or, not at all)
03:18
<Asterisks>
http://i.imgur.com/CQKLD6q.png
03:21
http://i.imgur.com/4ulKWn3.png < here you can see the vbox guest driver is loaded correctly
03:23
see why I'm a bit annoyed, now?
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03:28
<Asterisks>
work_alkisg: http://i.imgur.com/UQpcugE.png interesting stuff, finally.
03:31
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12320 oh look, it seems to be an ongoing problem.
03:34
<work_alkisg>
Asterisks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7631738/
03:34
On the first try... I didn't have to do anything at all to make it work.
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03:35
<work_alkisg>
Also, the vbox guest additions are not part of Ubuntu
03:35
<Asterisks>
why do you keep talking to me like I'm an idiot
03:35
<work_alkisg>
So it may be a user error or an oracle error, but I fail to see how this is an Ubuntu error
03:35
<Asterisks>
honestly I'm not, the driver is there and loading, it seems to be an ongoing issue that happens with virtualbox
03:36
<work_alkisg>
DRI is about 3d, not about resolution
03:36
<Asterisks>
so, it's not a user error. seems to be an oracle error
03:36
work_alkisg: if the dri is kicking the driver out, then that would be why the resolution won't set
03:36
<work_alkisg>
I.e. the bug report you've linked isn't related to the resolution issue
03:36
I have those lines too in xorg.log, and it's working
03:37
Btw English isn't my native language, sorry if I'm sounding harsh, not my intention
03:38
I've blamed Ubuntu thousands of times; I just don't think it's to blame for this particular issue.
03:38
<Asterisks>
It's more that I'm annoyed than you being harsh...
03:39
this isn't working for one reason or another, though I do have the guest additions installed corrently (i tried from the repo and from the iso provided with virtualbox)
03:39
<work_alkisg>
Asterisks: does the output of "xrandr" mention "VBOX" as the output?
03:40
<Asterisks>
VBOX0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
03:40
1024x768 60.0*+
03:40
800x600 60.0
03:40
640x480 60.0
03:40
yes, that's just what the screens name is though
03:40
has nothing to do with the driver
03:40
<work_alkisg>
And, resizing the window doesn't automatically add a new mode?
03:40
It's provided _by_ the driver
03:41
<Asterisks>
it gives me a max of 1280x800 when fullscreened
03:42
<work_alkisg>
Nice. And, if you resize it to e.g. 1111x777, it offers that resolution too?
03:42
<Asterisks>
nope
03:43
resizing it all over, not giving me anything
03:43
also, when going back to window mode after settig it to 1280x800 in fullscreen
03:43
it drags it back to a 4:3 aspect ration even though the 1280x800 is a 16:10 ratio
03:43
so it smashes the information vertically
03:44
IE, it's unusable unless fullscreened, which rather defeats the point
03:44
<work_alkisg>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/7631760/
03:44
What's your host OS?
03:44
<Asterisks>
osx mountain lion
03:45
<work_alkisg>
I'd file bugs for vbox on osx
03:46
You've a right to be annoyed, sure, things aren't working as you expect. Just direct your annoyance to the proper recipient.
03:46
Btw, virtualbox also offers custom vesa modes, which work even without guest additions
03:47
Until the issue is solved, you might use those as a workaround, they're described in the vbox manual
03:47
<Asterisks>
interesting... I can change my scaling for my retina display and then fullscreen it which gives me a 1440x 1050 resolution
03:48
that resolution is too high to be easily visable, however, and still fails to use any horizontal space on my screen....
03:49* Asterisks is so sick of this
03:52
<work_alkisg>
Asterisks: the commands that I've pastebin'ed last, don't allow you to set any resolution without manually resizing the window?
03:55
<Asterisks>
interesting, that seems to work
03:55
rather long and arduous process, but it does seem to work
03:56
<work_alkisg>
The problem seems to be that the host isn't conducting the proper display information to the guest, i.e. that the problem is in the "vbox on osx" components
03:56
So, search for and file appropriate bugs there
03:57
<Asterisks>
gotcha, I'll definately be submitting a report about it to virtualbox then.
03:57
<work_alkisg>
So... all this, not ubuntu related, not ltsp related. #virtualbox related. ;)
03:57
<Asterisks>
i knew it wasn't ltsp related... I suspected it was ubuntu related but you have proven me wrong
03:58
I was just ranting in here cause you guys are awesome to talk to and not much goes on in here
03:58
but yeah, will definately be reporting to the virtualbox guys
03:58
thanks for all your help, even though this is the wrong channel
04:03
<work_alkisg>
You're welcome :)
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09:36
<igorblargh>
hi
10:39
i'm trying to build a ltsp-cluster in virtualbox, can anyone provide a newer tutorial than the documentation on ltsp-cluster.org or this one: http://nroussi.blogspot.de/2011/09/ltsp-cluster-with-ubuntu-1104.html ?
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11:23
<alkisg>
igorblargh: I think ltsp-cluster is not very well maintained anymore, so you might either want to contact the company, or seek other solutions
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15:29
<aasafdsafsdfsdaa>
Hi
15:29
Can I ask you a question?
15:30
(Sorry for the username but i can't find one free.)
15:31
I have a very very old computer that has a SIS650 Video Card. I can set up an LTSP installation because it boot, but after I can't see the LDM login.
15:32
But i noticed that if i set the SCREEN_07 with VNC, or rdesktop, i can see an empty black screen with a mouse, so is only the LDM that only in that old (thin) client does not work.
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15:36
<valeriobozzolan>
Here i am :)
15:36
Hi!
15:37
Can I ask to someone a question about a very hard LTSP implementation because of a very old thin client with a very ord grapich SIS videocard?
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<||cw>
can you boot a livecd on the thin client?
15:41
sis video is a pain, at best it'll require some manual tweaking
15:42
<valeriobozzolan>
Yes sis is a pain :(
15:42
Yes I tested a lot of live CDs
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And they (generally) works
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(My school bought 90 PCs like this: ftp://103.10.4.102/Barebone/Terminator-P4-533A/manual/e1184_terminator_p4533a.pdf )
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<valeriobozzolan>
But now they can't use them XD
15:45
Unfortunately the only damn system that works is XP.
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<||cw>
you might just need to sinatll the right video package in the chroot
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<valeriobozzolan>
(That works percetly*)
15:47
Uhm. I tried to use simply this directive: X4_MODULE_01 = glx
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As described here:
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http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_VideoCards
15:47
But phereups was too generic, in fact it does not work.
15:48
(AND XSERVER = sis)
15:48
But I have a question:
15:49
MS Terminal Server works with RDP.
15:49
So there is a way to use Linux as a VNC Terminal Server for example?
15:49
Or FreeRDP for Linux as a Linux FreeRDP Terminal Server?
15:50
<championofcyrodi>
i use FreeNX with OpenNX for clients
15:50
<valeriobozzolan>
(I think no)
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<championofcyrodi>
it's faster than RDP
15:50
nomachine is a lot easier to install and set up though
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<alkisg_web>
valeriobozzolan: which distro/version?
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<valeriobozzolan>
It's the Ubu 14.04
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As LTSP server.
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<alkisg_web>
valeriobozzolan: sis has had issues in recent xorg versions.They think they solved them after the 14.04 release. When did you create the chroot?
15:55
(12.04 would probably work out of the box for you...)
15:55
<valeriobozzolan>
Very recently :D
15:55
After the 14.04 release.
15:55
<alkisg_web>
OK, then it's not in the ones that were fixed
15:55
<valeriobozzolan>
Good news :D
15:55
<alkisg_web>
Do you see errors in /var/log/Xorg.7.log?
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Segfaults etc?
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<valeriobozzolan>
Normal /var/log or chroot?
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<alkisg_web>
On the booted client
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<valeriobozzolan>
I remember no; But I'll try again in a few hours to see if there are.
15:58
So first i will try with 12.04 seeing for errors in /var/log
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That's something. Thank you very much :) So most probably I'll come back.
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Have a nice day.
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<alkisg_web>
!learn sis as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464
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<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
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<valeriobozzolan>
Ehi :) Can i ask you an hard question?
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<alkisg>
!sis
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<ltsp>
sis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464
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<alkisg>
:)
19:33
You can set an lts.conf option to bypass that issue...
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<valeriobozzolan>
Oh! <3
19:33
<alkisg>
!forget sis
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<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
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<alkisg>
!learn sis as `To bypass this problem with recent sis/xorg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464, set this in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""`
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<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
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<alkisg>
!sis
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<ltsp>
sis: To bypass this problem with recent sis/xorg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464, set this in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01=""NoAccel""
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<alkisg>
!sis
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<ltsp>
sis: To bypass this problem with recent sis/xorg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464, set this in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel"\"
19:38
<valeriobozzolan>
Only this rule?
19:39
Without any aditing of xorg and friends?
19:39
I'm trying now :)
19:39
<alkisg>
Yes, only this rule, of course under the [Default] section
19:39
<valeriobozzolan>
Of course :)
19:40
In advance, write me in private at boz at reyboz dot it if it works XD I'll pay you a coffe. XD
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(And I'm not sure I'm joking)
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XD
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<alkisg>
Haha :)
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<valeriobozzolan>
(But where it's documented this parameter?)
19:42
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
19:42
<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
19:42
<valeriobozzolan>
Ahn. The first time that I notice it. Thanks even for that.
19:42
<vagrantc>
where, oh where, are all the wonderful people to help with updating ltsp-docs? :)
19:43
<valeriobozzolan>
Oh, a beer even for you, wonderful and cute people.
19:44
<alkisg>
...we could remove all lts.conf parameters in ltsp 6, and only allow RUN_COMMAND_xx... that way we wouldn't need any docs :P
19:44
(ok ok just joking)
19:44
<vagrantc>
alkisg: why must you turn all your good ideas into jokes.
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<valeriobozzolan>
Ah, beautiful and cute peaple that keep updated ltsp-docs, can I ask you what is "asa seo, Jasa seo jakarta" in http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
19:45
I've imaginated that it's spam XD
19:45
<alkisg>
Looks like it
19:46
The wedding organizer might come in handy for ltsp'ers though...
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Hyperbyte: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Domtheo
19:47
...can we somehow block spammers and undo what they changed?
19:49
<valeriobozzolan>
Ah another question: There is a way to have multiple istances of LTSP/DHCP/TFTP (or how evil it works! :D) to make a mega-server (probably cluster) with for example 12 network-cards to create a mega thin-client-farm with thousand of incoming connection throug 12 different subnetwork?
19:50
Yes and search yourself, or No it's kind of magic?
19:50
<alkisg>
Services by default listen on 0.0.0.0, so they can reply to all the subnets
19:50
<valeriobozzolan>
WOW!
19:50
But LTSP have an option to give a name based from the IP address.
19:50
<alkisg>
DHCP does need editing of dhcpd.conf to put the ip pool ranges though
19:50
<valeriobozzolan>
So if i have a situation...
19:51
<vagrantc>
i've had LTSP servers with multiple different chroots that use different chroots depending on the network (or even a boot menu)
19:51
<valeriobozzolan>
So if the server have to give LTSP service to 12 different subnetwork, what kind of name it give to the thin clients?
19:52
<alkisg>
By default, 192.168.1.123 will be ltsp123, and 192.168.2.123 will also be ltsp123
19:52
<valeriobozzolan>
Eh yes!
19:52
So there may be problems
19:52
<alkisg>
Not really
19:52
You can set the hostnames based on mac address if you prefer
19:52
<vagrantc>
only likely if you need to connect client to client via hostname... which you probaly don't.
19:53
<valeriobozzolan>
!
19:53
<vagrantc>
or you can set a different base hostname on each network
19:53
<alkisg>
HOSTNAME_EXTRA string, default ip This parameter determines weather autogenerated host names are appended with information based on the ip address or mac address. Values are "ip" or "mac".
19:54
<vagrantc>
what actually uses the client hostname?
19:54
<valeriobozzolan>
Based from MAC address it's the solution :) Because based from IP may be disastrous because if i want for example an autologin, two people with ltsp123 will login as the same user and it does not work.
19:54
<vagrantc>
ah, yes, that would be a problem.
19:54
<valeriobozzolan>
(I think)
19:54
<alkisg>
You can set lts.conf options by mac address
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[mac:address]
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HOSTNAME=myclient
19:55
<valeriobozzolan>
Magic :)
19:55
<alkisg>
LDM_USERNAME=userxxx
19:55
<vagrantc>
or even ip address with wildcards:
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<alkisg>
So you don't need to bother with dhcpd.conf at all then
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<valeriobozzolan>
Magic.
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<vagrantc>
[192.168.1.*] HOSTNAME_BASE=otherltsp
19:55
then you'll get otherltsp123 for 192.168.1.123 and ltsp123 for 192.168.0.123
19:56
plenty of options.
19:56
<valeriobozzolan>
Wow!
19:56
Another clean solution!
19:56
Thanks
19:56
<alkisg>
valeriobozzolan: note that the server doesn't know the clients by hostname
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So you can't e.g. ping ltsp123, it won't work
19:57
<vagrantc>
you could set up DNS to autogenerate such rules
19:57
but that's outside the scope of LTSP
19:57
mostly, you don't need to know.
19:57
<valeriobozzolan>
Yes of course.
19:57
<alkisg>
dnsmasq supports dns updates... we should support that from the initramfs
19:58
<vagrantc>
valeriobozzolan: glad you sound so excited.
19:58
<valeriobozzolan>
Ook. I'm asking 80% for me and 20% for my project in my exam (I'm 19, from Turin, Italy).
19:58
<vagrantc>
alkisg: yeah, i've wondered about that.
19:58
<valeriobozzolan>
So I'm so exited XD
19:58
<vagrantc>
valeriobozzolan: really large networks of servers you'll want to have hardware capable of running as fatclients
19:58
<valeriobozzolan>
;)
19:58
Exact!
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<vagrantc>
as each thin client on the server adds considerable load, but each fat client only a small amount
19:59
<valeriobozzolan>
But i see that even with a large number of fat client the server recycle the RAM used for commons pakages.
19:59
thin *
20:00
processes *
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<vagrantc>
a little bit.
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but many applications don't actually have much shareable ram between instances
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<valeriobozzolan>
But I think that is how GNU/Linux manage it, and no how LTSP manage it
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<alkisg>
!server-ram
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<ltsp>
server-ram: LTSP server RAM *really* depends on the usage. But anyway here's an approximation: Server RAM in MB = 1500 + 30*number-of-fat-clients + 300*number-of-thin-clients
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<valeriobozzolan>
Thank you!
20:05
I've see only the approximation with thin clients, walking trough the documentations...
20:08
Probably is X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\"" and not X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel"\"
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Right?
20:08
Was a typo yours I think...
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<vagrantc>
!sis
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<ltsp>
sis: To bypass this problem with recent sis/xorg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1066464, set this in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel"\"
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<vagrantc>
hmm... yes, i would think X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""
20:14* vagrantc wonders if X_OPTION_01=\"NoAccel\" works
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Non X_OPTION="\"NoAccel\""?
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<vagrantc>
?
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<valeriobozzolan_>
:)
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<valeriobozzolan_>
OK i'm trying now now now.
20:16
With mine escape.
20:17
Nope. It fails.
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<valeriobozzolan_>
The error in the de
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Monitor: Unable to grab IRQ 0
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and
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Starting load fallback graphics device fail
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(Now the monitor is like in
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<championofcyrodi>
heh, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Sorry delete latest line. Now the error is the same when it was not the X_OPTION.
20:24
<championofcyrodi>
the girl had to drop out because she got ubuntu and couldnt do work stuff
20:24
school*
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Summary the X_OPTION do anything :)
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<alkisg>
valeriobozzolan_: did you forget the _01 part?
20:25
It's not X_OPTION, it's X_OPTION_01
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Check your generated xorg.conf on the client
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Damn me.
20:26
Sorry :(
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<alkisg>
About the "\" vs \"", both should work
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Uhm. OK.
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I've enabled a shell in 02.
20:29
Now I try and then I see the logfile
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<valeriobozzolan_>
Fail.
20:32
But in the client i can't see any xorg in /var/log.
20:35
I'm grepping in an erroneous pathname for the logs?
20:35
In /var/log, in a shell from the thin, I can't see xorg logs :|
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<valeriobozzolan>
Ideas why I haven't Xorg logs?
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<vagrantc>
valeriobozzolan: are you looking from an xterm on a thin client, or a shell on the thin client console?
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<valeriobozzolan>
SCREEN_02=shell
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So CTRL+ALT+F2 in thin
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And in it i can browse /var/log seeing boot.log, dsmsg, etc but none xorg
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<valeriobozzolan1>
Here I am.
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<vagrantc>
valeriobozzolan1: do you also have SCREEN_07=ldm ?
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!pastebin | echo valeriobozzolan1
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<ltsp>
valeriobozzolan1 pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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<vagrantc>
valeriobozzolan1: please paste the contents of your lts.conf
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