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Channel log from 3 May 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<rjester>
Hello there
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anybody home?
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<Appiah>
Not reallyu
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<rjester>
let me ask anyway : I have LTSP installed on SLES 10. Everything is working just lovely except the CDrom on the thin client. It is a USB cdrom. when i plug it in, I can see it is detected on the thin client, and the little new Desktop icon appears - but when I double click on it , it is empty. if i mount it manually thru the console, I can see it on the console but not on the GUI - aahhhh - so any advice would be just darling....thanks
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<aaaaa>
sound probles with esd and nasd
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<envite>
Hello all from Spain
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Hola a todos desde España
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<gvy>
buenos dias
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<moquist>
cliebow: great! :)
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<dtrask>
hey chuck!
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<envite>
is somebody using dhcpv3 with lda?
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<cliebow>
you all pumped for your pres??
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dtrask:you all pumped for your pres??
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<gvy>
ogra, ! :)
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<ogra>
hey
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<cliebow>
there's ogra!
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<cyberorg>
hi ogra, got ltspfs working on suse manually :)
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<ogra>
good
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<Riddell>
pere: do you know if there's a quick way of contacting Kurt Gramlich? irc, phone, etc
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<pere>
Riddell: email is most reliably. irc works some times, and phone is not too easy.
05:51
Riddell: do you have his email address? He is k4x on irc.debian.org.
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<Riddell>
pere: been e-mailing him all week
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<pere>
right.
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<cliebow_>
pscheie:i got this bondi booting to redhat..what were we trying to figger out?
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<Guaraldo>
good morning...
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<cliebow_>
Guaraldo, Top of the morning!
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<pscheie>
morning all
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<Guaraldo>
cliebow_: In Brasilia, 10:00
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<cliebow_>
9 am here..
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in Maine
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<pscheie>
cliebow_: I see you got the bondi booting redhat; have you tried edubuntu?
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<cliebow_>
just getting kernel and chroot now
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i started with 32 meg of ram..took out two sticks and now have 128????
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<pscheie>
is that new math?
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<cliebow_>
must be 8~)
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<str4nd>
Why X restarts when I write 'glxinfo' at client?
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<envite>
str4nd: does the client X module have GLX activated?
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<jernst>
/joint #horde
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<str4nd>
envite: I don't know :P
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envite: Maybe not.
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<envite>
str4nd: probably not :)
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<str4nd>
:p
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<envite>
you can try several things
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<str4nd>
hmm, i'll try put it on.. tomorrow
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<envite>
as an example (I'm leaving the office)
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create a custom X conf file
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pass it to the ws
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and try again
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of course, a X conf file with a working GLX conf and be sure that the needed modules are available in the ltsp environment the client runs in
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bye!
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<Blinny>
I'm having reproducible xorg and firefox crashes using a Dell GX110 i810 thin client. I've read that this is caused by not allocating enough memory to the integrated i810 video, but I haven't found a X_VIDEORAM setting that works for me. Anyone have time to help me troubleshoot?
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<r3zon8>
morning, my ltsp machine boots up with good performance, but after say an hour or two, the machine seems to crawl, are there any tools to guage performance on the machine taht could maybe find teh bottleneck somewhere?
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<KevinC>
Can anyone suggest some help with a screen problem... I need to ssh into another box (running old EPOS) and I have a problem with the display of text characters (DEC Special)
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<KevinC>
GOT TO GO!
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<irule>
how can I know dhcp's actives leases?
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hi all
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I suppose its a good way to know what temrinals are powered on?
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<cyberorg>
irule: cat /var/lib/dhcp/db/dhcpd.leases
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<sepski>
irule, i think arp -an or ps aux | grep ltsp is easier
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<irule>
thanks guys
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<cliebow_>
pscheie:i have the kernel loading...nfs..and........and....
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and..
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and..
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and
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an x
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<str4nd>
a x
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x
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<cliebow_>
and..BEANO!
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<str4nd>
\œ_
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<cliebow_>
IM SURE ILL NEED TO RUN LTSP-UPDATE-SSHKEYS
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whoopps
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<cyberorg>
cliebow hi, what are you working on
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<cliebow_>
oh ppc ltsp on feisty..
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for ubuntu on a bondi
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<cyberorg>
ok, cool
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<cliebow_>
i ve used em before in redhat and 4.1..first time on a bondi in feisty'
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a fewq nuances..i had to wring out'
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<cyberorg>
what's bondi?
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<cliebow_>
bondi is an g3 case usually a really venomous color..
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like tangerine..or puce
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not sure you'd call em thin clients 8~)
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we gotta get ogra to tone down the ldm color a mite...
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so that is a pos macintosh booting from an intel box
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in feisty
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<cyberorg>
great :)
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<MrNobody>
hi everyone
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<pscheie>
hi MrNobody
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<MrNobody>
I just couldnt convice my teacher to change the projetc.... :(
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<pscheie>
did he get the email that sbalneav sent?
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<MrNobody>
I think he did but he did'nt mention it.
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<pscheie>
someone else with the same assignment popped in here the other day
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presumably a classmate of yours
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<MrNobody>
maybe. I dont believe anyone else in the world have such assignment but us ...
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<pscheie>
what's the assignment again? LTSP 3 on Red Hat 7.3 or some such?
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<MrNobody>
LTSP 3 on red hat 9.0
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<Guaraldo>
MrNobody: Witch assigment???
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<MrNobody>
I have made some progress on it I have the kernel loaded on the client using a boot cd from rom-o-matic
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but I am having problems when NFS tries to mount the pivot_root
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I just get NFS: server not responding ... still trying. after the kernel is loaded and DHCP assigns an IP.
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<cyberorg>
wow, where do they use red hat 9?
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<MrNobody>
I checked the exports file and the showmount command
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cyberorg:it is just a stupid assignment I got.
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<cliebow_>
MrNobody, is nfs and portmap running?
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<pscheie>
what if you boot a knoppix disk in the client, so you have a full OS, and then try manually mounting one of the nfs exports from the server?
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<cyberorg>
we have some colleges in india still using/teaching rh 9
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<cliebow_>
pscheie, the bondi is running in feisty
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<pscheie>
cool! 128MB RAM?
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<MrNobody>
I havent tried that. how can I do that manually?
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<cliebow_>
yrp
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heh
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<pscheie>
from the live cd or installed?
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<cliebow_>
MrNobody, first on server...showmount -e
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<Guaraldo>
MrNobody: services nfs start
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MrNobody: services portmap start
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<cliebow_>
service nfs start..but showmount should show that
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<MrNobody>
services nfs and portmap are running
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<cliebow_>
showmount -e
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<MrNobody>
showmount 192.168.0.254 -e //works ok (192.168.0.254 is the ip of the server)
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my /etc/exports file is as follows : /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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/opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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is that ok? or 192.168.0.0 should be changed to the server IP?
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<pscheie>
no, you want it exported to the whole 192.168.0.0 network
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<cliebow_>
seems ok
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<pscheie>
IOW, yes it's okay as it is
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<MrNobody>
if I check /var/log/messages when the client is trying to mount the filesystem I get the following: rpc.mountd requesting mount from 192.168.0.10
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<pscheie>
have you tried turning iptables off?
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<cliebow_>
lets 0.10?
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<Guaraldo>
MrNobody:
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/opt/ltsp-4.2 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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<cliebow_>
MrNobody, your root file system is /opt/ltsp/i386 right?
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<Guaraldo>
MrNobody: Good try to see iptables...
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<MrNobody>
cliebow:0.10 is the IP assigned by DHCP to the client
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<cliebow_>
good
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<MrNobody>
cliebow:right
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pscheie:I will try to turn them off and see what happens
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<cliebow_>
i guess id service nfs restart service portmap restart and reboot the client
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what kernel by the way?
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<MrNobody>
I have also manually added the following line to /etc/hosts.allow: mountd: 192.168.0.10
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<pscheie>
I mention it because it frequently interferes with NFS on my RH8/LTSP 3 box
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<MrNobody>
pscheie: nice tip :) so I will turn it off
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<cliebow_>
oiptables..and check hosts.allow and deny
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is the network switched..crossover..hubs?
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<MrNobody>
I have a crossover cable between 2 pc I know that it works because I boot knoppix and ping my server without any problems
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<cliebow_>
ok..
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<MrNobody>
is ok that my /etc/hosts file only has one line with 127.0.0.0 localhost... ?
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<pscheie>
usually /etc/hosts has names and numbers for the whole 192.168.0.x subnet
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not sure if it's mandatory or not
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<MrNobody>
I will write them one by one to see if it helps
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<cliebow_>
pscheie:you get my previous on Bondi?
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<MrNobody>
and bout hosts.allow and hosts.deny I need to write every single IP in the subnet too?
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<pscheie>
that it's working? that it's 128MB RAM? yes; that it's from the live CD or installed? no
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<cliebow_>
that is ltsp
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i dont have a fir cdrom to try the live one
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<MrNobody>
just one last question. the problem in NFS doesnt have anything to do with my etherboot cd... I mean if it boots and loads the kernel that means I have the right image ???
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<cliebow_>
yes
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<pscheie>
correct
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<cliebow_>
once the kernel is down you can take the floppy out..
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<pscheie>
cliebow_: "fir" cdrom?
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<MrNobody>
thanks a lot guys you were really helpful :)
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<cliebow_>
fir
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Balls!
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fit
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this machine is Very downwardly mobilee
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<pscheie>
so how did you install it without a cdrom drive?
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<cliebow_>
it is ltsp
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<pscheie>
oh, as a client?
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<cliebow_>
no floppy..no hard drive..no cdrom
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yes
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<pscheie>
ah, got it
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does sound work?
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(hoping against hope)
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<cliebow_>
hmm let me plug one in
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well.i didnt hear aanything on boot
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<pscheie>
shouldn't it make the 'ta da' sound when you first turn it on, long before you get to loading an OS?
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<cliebow_>
it does a tada..but that doesnt come out of the speakers
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cant ssh in to see what is loaded..
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<pscheie>
Ctrl-F2?
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<cliebow_>
nope..i could add an lts.conf
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<sutula>
ctrl-alt-F2 ?
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<cliebow_>
nope
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<pscheie>
to use an lts.conf, do you have to do anything besides create the file? any other toggles to set?
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<cliebow_>
nope
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<pscheie>
sounds fairly easy; so, create one so we can see what lsmod and lspci say
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<cliebow_>
hmm screen_02=shell is there..ahhh..but no obvious sound modules
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pcilynx maybe?
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nope
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nothing in lspci..
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<sutula>
cliebow: /proc/asound ?
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<pscheie>
lspci just scans the bus, right? should at least show the sound hardware (?)
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<cliebow_>
you'd thinkso
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sutula..look in a sec..
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<cliebow_>
reboot
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<cliebow_>
trying SCREEN_07=startx in lts.conf..gdm is enabled but netstat says udp6..looks wonky
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<cliebow_> and only gray x on client\
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oopp..it works
13:56* sutula wonders if "works" is sound or above video problem
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<cliebow_>
video..sorry
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<sutula>
cliebow: I'm paying attention because I don't have sound working yet on my clients. The kernel supports the hardware (at least what's in /proc/asound looks reasonable) but udev isn't creating reasonable /dev files...haven't worked on it further yet
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<cliebow_>
sutula: i see...i have always been challenged by sound..i do have it working in 4.2..but durned if i know what did it for a 64 b it server
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<cliebow_>
got a live cd started
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nope..i guess i dont
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
hi! im using ubuntu 7.04. ive followed the doc for installing ltsp in ubuntu 7.04 but dhcpserver refuses to start :( says no active subnet declaration for eth0. the thing is that its not eth0 which im planning to use to connect to clients. i need eht1 for that purpose. ive edited /etc/init.d/dhcp cause i saw it was not using the dhcpd.conf under /etc/ltsp. but doing tail -f /var/log/daemon.log i get the same result. any ideas?
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<sepski>
pablo-uy-mvd, hmm check /etc/default/dhcp3-server
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<cliebow_>
the address your nic has when binding must be within the subnet declaration
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of dhcp or it wont start
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
cliebow: how do i check that?
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cliebow: or where do i configure that?
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<cliebow_>
if [ -f /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ]; then
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CONFIG_FILE=/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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this in /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server defines which file is read
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it should be defined in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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for you
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what dooes ifconfig eth1 show for an addy/
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
cliebow: ive cheked and my /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server is ok. "CONFIG_FILE=/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf".No ive edited /etc/default/dhcpd.conf and specified to use eth1 instead of eth0 but traing to resatrt dhcp server says "no subnet declaration for eth1"
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
ifconfig eth1 says: 192.168.37.1, the mac..etc etc
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<cliebow_>
pablo-uy-mvd, want to pastebot.ltsp.org your dhcpd.conf
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
cliebow: i didnt understand what does addy/ mean in your last msg
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<cliebow_>
address you gave...192.168.37.1
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
ok ill paste the content of my file wait a minute :)
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<cliebow_>
no guaranties 8~)
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
cliebow: ohhh how stupid i am! there was a problem subnet declaration in the dhcpd.conf
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now im doing the 2cond step.. sudo ltsp-build-client
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<cliebow__>
cool
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it always helps to explain things to someone else..the answers often come..
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
:) thanks for your help! appreciate it very much. now im waiting.. its downloading files
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<nick125_>
Afternoon everyone!
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Anyone here have experience with using LTSP on Gentoo?
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<nick125_>
It seems the Gentoo LTSP guide is out of date
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<nick125_>
brb
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yay, I didn't get disconnected!
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
hi! dhcp is up and working, in daemons.log i see that a client nic asked for a ip, my dhcp servers does the offer.. and its a loop in these 2 actions. in the client side the client says "no ip addres"
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ideas?
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<ltsppbot>
"pablo-mvd-uy" pasted "/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf" (16 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/119
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<jammcq>
hey kids
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<jammcq>
!s
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<ltspbot>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<thomask>
i'm getting a new weird issue. my ltsp server was working fine and now I'm getting pxe-t01: file not found and then pxe-e3b: TFTP Error - file not found... anyone have any ideas?
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<cliebow>
your path is wonky ..
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thomask:you wanna pastebot.ltsp.org your dhcpd.conf
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<thomask>
sure
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<cliebow>
jammcq:i mailed you a correction on ppc feisty for the old bondis..
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i was wring to say that yaboot.conf could be buried down in the tftproott
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<ltsppbot>
"thomask" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/120
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<jammcq>
cliebow: oh?
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damn
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it's already packaged that way in the feisty package
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<moo_bovine>
Are there any docs on using a different dhcp server w/ ltsp?
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<jammcq>
moo_bovine: all you need to do is get your 'next-server' and 'root-path' set to point to the correct server
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<moo_bovine>
next-server?
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<jammcq>
yeah, that's how tftp knows where the tftp server is
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<moo_bovine>
ah
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eh, i gotta troubleshoot the 'if' statement for pxe booting
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thanks though, i'll be back to ask more questions and/or thank you more :)
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<jammcq>
k
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<thomask>
jammcq, any ideas?
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<cliebow>
jammcq:the other "feature" is they dont pass a vci..they have to have a reservation
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<jammcq>
thomask: what has changed ?
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<cliebow>
thomask:did you say whar distro?
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<thomask>
someone had me chroot into my /opt/ltsp/i386 file and install something to get my
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x11-vnc working... i'm in kubuntu
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<cliebow>
thtat shohuldnt affect anything in boot..
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<thomask>
i just completely deleted the i386 folder and reinstalled with ltsp-build-client and still no go.
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that's what i thought...
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<jammcq>
thomask: ok, do this: grep filename /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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<thomask>
filename "pxelinux.0";
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filename "/opt/``ltsp/i386/nbi.img";
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<jammcq>
huh ?
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that ain't right
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<cliebow>
weird alright
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<thomask>
what is grep? and what is wrong? lol
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<cliebow>
those two ticks are wro ng
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<jammcq>
should be: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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as for grep, try: man grep
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<cliebow>
thomas:you can look at mine if you like
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169.244.2.137/dhcpd.conf
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<thomask>
ok so how do i change it?
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<jammcq>
edit it
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<thomask>
/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf?
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<cliebow>
yes
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<jammcq>
yes
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<cliebow>
both filename statements are wonky
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take out /opt and two ticks
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and restart dhcp
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<jammcq>
no
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that's not enough
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he's missing the whole '/var/lib/tftpboot'
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err
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never mind
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he doesn't need that
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filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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that's what he needs
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and I'm heading to bed
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<cliebow>
filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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<jammcq>
12:38am here
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<cliebow>
heh
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<thomask>
where are you?
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<jammcq>
I'm in Spain this week and next
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<cliebow>
dinnertime herer\..interesting stuff?how did trasks talk come out?
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<jammcq>
for an Ubuntu summit
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dtrask did a great job
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<cliebow>
cool
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<thomask>
do i need to restart because i tried both "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" and "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" and neither worked...
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i just saved then restarted the thin client. do i need to restart the server as well
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?
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<cliebow>
you need to restart dhcp
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<thomask>
oh ok.
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<jammcq>
you need to restart dhcpd
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NO
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you need to restart dhcpd
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do this: /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
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and g'night
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I'll leave you in cliebow's hands
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<cliebow>
g od help him `
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<thomask>
night jammcq have fun in spain
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<hiho>
geez, dell server prices got high, anybody have any good (supported) alternatives?
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<jammcq>
highvoltage: hey, i'm just heading to bed.
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<thomask>
awesome! works! thanks a bunch! cliebow do you know how to change the edubuntu login screen on my clients?
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<cliebow>
to?
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xdmcp?
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<thomask>
i downloaded another login screen off of gnome-look.org
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<cliebow>
i dont think i can help there..you are using ldm now?
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does ytour server use it?
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<thomask>
whatever comes with ltsp... I use gdm on my server
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<cliebow>
you "could" use xdmcp instead of the whitish ldm login screen by opening gdmsetup..enabling remote logins..restarting gdm by reboooting sergver
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and..
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adding an lts.conf which includes
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[default]
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SCREEN_07=startx
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<cliebow>
in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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<thomask>
so they see the xdmcp screen instead of the regular ltsp screen? is that what this does?
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<cliebow>
yes..cant tell server apart from client
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<thomask>
oh ok... no adverse affects then? it won't be any slower or anything?
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<cliebow>
it wont be quite a s secure as ogra's ldm which is really a frontend for ssh
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<thomask>
is there any way i can have both? security and a nice log in screen?
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<cliebow>
i am not sure if sCREEN_07=startx can be put in lts.conf per workstation..negver tried it..
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you Can put most parameters in per machiine using mac address of said machihne
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<thomask>
in the dhcpd.conf file?
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<cliebow>
no
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in an lts.conf
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i am unsure if the new ubuntu ltsp5 will do as 4.2 did
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<thomask>
i just tried to restart my thin client and it took me to the regular x screen with an x and a screen full of x's no log in screen...
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<cliebow>
but you can look in /usr/share/docs/ltsp-client in your chroot
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gdm is not running...then..yet
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did you use gdmsetup to enable remote login?
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<thomask>
yes it was already enabled i did it a few days ago
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<cliebow>
so netstat -anp|grep ":177" shows it running..
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on server
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<thomask>
doesn't show anything
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i have it set to listen on udp 177
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it's been set as same as local under remote
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should i do reboooting sergver again?
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<thomask>
ok i just had to restart. it worked
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<thomask>
another quick question. Is there any way to log into my gui xdmcp session from a windows box?
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<vykarian>
yeah
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search xming or xmanager
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xmanager 1.3.9
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<thomask>
awesome vykarian thanks. which should i use xming or xmanager
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<vykarian>
at my company some guys were evaluating those
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i guess xmanager is a very nice program
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but its shareware
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so I told them to find another in GPL
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they told me about xming, but i didn't evaluate that my my own
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<thomask>
ko thanks
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ok*
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<vykarian>
np
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<cliebow>
thomask look at nx..thry could login frorm a winboxen from Prague if they wanted to\
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<thomask>
cliebow what is nx?
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<cliebow>
Awesome
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a highly encrypted x session over an (encrypted )ssh connectiton
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and the ubuntu install is quite..easy
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if you want to look in tomorrw i can give you an addendum to sdources.list and links to info
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prob it is on wiki.ltsp.org already
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<thomask>
ok that'd be great!
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<gentgeen__>
I know off topic, but would anyone happen to know if anyone know if the Sober virus will/can mask/spoof the IP address of the "Received" header?
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<cliebow>
nnew to me..
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<thomask>
cliebow why wouldn't people use freenx instead of ltsp? it seems that it would be possible to make the clients pxe into freenx. It seems like a better alternative
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<cliebow>
it is hard onn the sergver all that encryptio for one.
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there is a mod Gadi built to give an nx login from ltsp
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<thomask>
oh i see. I installed xming on my windows box and i see the log in and put in my username and password and get nothing but a blank window.
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<cliebow>
ltsp is about thin client..ltsp will boot you to a minimal x on any client from whence you could use nx
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or even vnc..or rdesktop
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<thomask>
i'll keep trying
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<cliebow>
or the regular server login
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me too
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<thomask>
also i'm interested in the lts.conf file you had me modify. I'm trying to figure out what it did to fix my problem and why it isn't like that by default because it makes it look a lot nicer...
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<cliebow>
security
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everything before ltsp5 was xdmcp
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and ldm will look better and better as time goes on..and be faster..
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ogra is already working on this
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<thomask>
oh ok. so i just undid the security updates that ltsp5 implemented...
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<cliebow>
boot times will be increasingly short..
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which is ok in some cases (like mine)
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<thomask>
how does this make it less secure?
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<cliebow>
it is all about choice..
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<thomask>
should i be worried about the security?
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<cliebow>
i think an experienced hacker could take oveer\
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nfs is inherently insecure..there is a lot of work being done there as well
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<thomask>
ok got to go i'll talk to you tomorrow. thanks a bunch for your help!
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<cliebow>
cant be any worse than citrix login via http
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sure..returning the favors these guys hagv done me ovber the years
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all about comunity..
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like teaching me to type 8`)
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nite
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<joebaker>
I'm rebuilding our LTSP server. The old one wouldn't boot anymore after hotplugging some IDE drives with a USB adaptor. And I also shut down the system
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uncleanly. Was a Ubuntu 6.10 system. Now I'm setting up a 7.04. Home directories were over NFS
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so it's not such a big deal.
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<joebaker>
I had this wacky filesystem. RAID1 with LVM on top. Lilo magically booted it. It made me nervous thought about applying kernel patches.
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