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Channel log from 8 January 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<dberkholz>
jammcq: still around?
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<Capricorn^800>
any expert there ?
03:54
i have some issues to discuss regarding mouting of usb
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<envite>
Hello all from Spain
04:03
Hola a todos desde España
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<budgee>
hi
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anyone home?
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<cliebow_>
budgee:catch you in a bit
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<envite>
budgee: ask, i'll try to answer
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<budgee>
hey
05:51
i need to get an AMD LX based terminal working
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I need to build the AMD drivers into the kernel
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Any ideas where I start?
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envite: Can't seem to find many documentation out there.
05:53
envite: The AMD LX platform is a pretty stable common thing?
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envite: The Video works fine with the VESA driver but what I really need is to get the sound working.
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<budgee>
envite: Any ideas?
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<cliebow_>
budgee:might get a pci id for the sound card..see what you got..
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<budgee>
cliebow_: I will get it now
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cliebow_: Aduio is CS5536
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<budgee>
cliebow_: You there? The Audio device is a CS5536 from the AMD Geode LX platform
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<cliebow_>
budgee:just booking for work..bbiab
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<budgee>
Anyone there?
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<budgee>
Anyone able to help with getting AMD LX platform working?
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<budgee>
hello?
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<jammcq>
yo
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<ogra>
budgee,
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ogra@edubuntu:~/packages/libflashsupport-1.0-2219$ modinfo cs5535|grep description
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description: PCI driver module for AMD/NS CS5535 IDE
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thats likely to work with the 5536 as well ... check if its loaded
08:44
hmm, no, it should be snd-cs5535audio
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so check for that one
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<jammcq>
hey ogra
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<ogra>
yo jammcq
08:46
just playing with pulse integration ... :)
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<jammcq>
remember that idea about offering a tarball of Ubuntu ltsp ?
08:47
I figure it's time to do it
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is there still a tarball I can grab?
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<ogra_>
meh
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jammcq, whats the last line you got from me ?
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<jammcq>
about playing with pulse
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<ogra_>
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz is the most recent one
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its the edgy version
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<jammcq>
cool
08:50
i'll grab it now
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<ogra_>
i'm behind on ppc, sorry
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<jammcq>
as I understand it, anybody could take that image and install it on any distro
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<ogra_>
and i'm nit sure how far i can go with it now that we drop ppc
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<jammcq>
and once they do that, they could 'chroot /opt/ltsp/i386'
08:51
<ogra_>
right
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<jammcq>
and do 'apt-get update && apt-get instal blah-blah-blah' ?
08:51
<ogra_>
but you also need ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-sshkeys
08:51
on the server side
08:52
we need to package that as well
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<jammcq>
but.... will those actually work on any server?
08:52
they are built for Ubuntu, no?
08:52
<ogra_>
its only scripts so it should ,,,, but it assumes some stuff like /var/lib/tftpboot ...
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so for distros using /tftpboot it sont work ...
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<jammcq>
I'm thinking we'll just need the kernel tarballs too
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<ogra_>
*wont
08:53
no
08:53
you have the kernel in the tarball
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<jammcq>
in which tarball? the big one?
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<ogra_>
you just need to copy it and create the pxe config
08:53
yeah
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<jammcq>
oh
08:53
where does the initramfs get built?
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<ogra_>
in /boot as in every ubuntu system
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in the chroot during build
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<jammcq>
ah, so the kernel + initramfs is already there?
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<ogra_>
with the special parameters for ltsp clients
08:54
yeah and properly configured
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<jammcq>
'ltsp-update-kernels' just puts things in the right places ?
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<ogra_>
all you need server sided are PXE or nbi ... and the setup
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<jammcq>
"the setup" ?
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<ogra_>
it calls mknbi ... and creates the PXE config
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the config ....
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<jammcq>
ok
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<ogra_>
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/mainline/server/ltsp-update-kernels
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its a trivial script
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<jammcq>
I see
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not so bad at all
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<ogra_>
for an upstream i386 only variant it will be five lines or so ...
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<jammcq>
so.... Ubuntu has dropped PPC ?
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<ogra_>
well, officially
08:57
ppc will go on as community supported port
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<jammcq>
hmmm
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<ogra_>
but not officially anymore
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview
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as long as my ibook works i'll go on with ppc development in my spare time (if i find some :P ) but beyond that i'm not sure ...
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i think thats the general attitude in the development team ...
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<jammcq>
it actually makes sense to me that they've dropped it
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<ogra_>
so it wont disappear as long as the HW of people works :)
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<ogra_>
but there is no official port anymore ...
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and i know cliebow will cry ....
09:02* ogra_ goes on to fiddle with http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:Additional_Interface_Support_for_Linux#Requirements
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<ogra_>
why cant they just opensource their licenses and make my life easier :(
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<g333k_work>
hello, I can use the same configuration files of ltsp 4.2 for ltsp 5 right? I mean /etc/hosts, /etc/dhcp.conf, etc etc ?
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<cliebow>
why am i to cry???
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<ogra>
cliebow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview
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<cliebow>
g333k_work:dhcpd.conf will be in /etc/ltsp
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ogra:to betruthful i hate the little bastuds..its just what i have to weork with
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<ogra>
well, we'll drop them officially with feisty ...
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but kepp them as community driven port (as long as enough devs elp out)
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<cliebow>
ogra: stands to reaspn
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<g333k_work>
cliebow, what about the /etc/dhcp3dhcp.conf file?
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<ogra>
in ubuntu and debian its overridden by /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf if you use ltsp ...
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so if you have an old backup you want to use, copy it there ...
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and ignore /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf
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<g333k_work>
ogra, where do I configure what interface I'm gonna use for ltsp? I mean something like the old ltspadmin?
09:14
ogra, And to see if all the daemons are working ok?
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<ogra>
you use your distro tools for the services/daemons ... i.e. services-admin in ubuntu ...
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(feisty or feisty+1 will have upstart integration so you will have an ltsp initscript then, that will mae such stuff way more comfortable)
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for the interface, the one you configured in your dhcpd.conf and in /etc/network/inetrfaces will be used ...
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i.e. dhcpd will autoselect the on where it finds a network config for in dhcpd.conf and ignore all others
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<g333k_work>
ok
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<efra>
Morning everybody
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<cliebow>
3Stooges
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<g333k_work>
Ohh god!, my ltsp server started swapping a lot again! the hard disk doesnt stop working, and it seems to be freezed
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<g333k_work>
Now I added 512M more of RAM, now that I have 2G of RAM, how much swap do I have to set?
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<mrlinux>
is there any reason that you guys can think of why going through a switch wont work but a lan/hub will
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<yhan>
hi how hard is it to have the sound functionning properly with ltsp and ubuntu breezy ?
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<cliebow>
PMantis: dont suppose you know if anyone has a package.def for pulsesudio?
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<mrlinux>
need help with restarting my dhcp for LTSP
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<mistik1>
what's the problem
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<mrlinux>
when i try to boot my clients they recieve no pxe or bootp offers
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i tosted one of my nics somehow so i installed a new one
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<mistik1>
what does the server logs say
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<mrlinux>
and i redited the dhcp file and gave it a static ip and restarted it
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how do i get them
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<mistik1>
/var/log/messages is one
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tail /var/log/messages
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<mrlinux>
root@Thinserver:/home/mrlinux# /var/log/messages
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bash: /var/log/messages: Permission denied
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<mistik1>
its a file
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<mrlinux>
ah
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<mistik1>
tail -f /var/log/messages
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while trying to connect
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<mrlinux>
ok one sec
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<mrlinux>
can i paste it in here
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root@Thinserver:/home/mrlinux# tail -f /var/log/messages
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Jan 8 12:17:14 Thinserver gconfd (mrlinux-4394): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4
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Jan 8 12:17:20 Thinserver gconfd (mrlinux-4394): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/mrlinux/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 0
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): starting (version 2.16.0), pid 5063 user 'root'
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/root/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3
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Jan 8 12:34:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4
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Jan 8 12:35:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): GConf server is not in use, shutting down.
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Jan 8 12:35:37 Thinserver gconfd (root-5063): Exiting
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<mistik1>
how many lines
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no more than 3 lines here please
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<mrlinux>
paste bot wouldn't load
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http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/861/
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<mrlinux>
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/861/
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<deep-blue>
hi
13:56
after editing lts.conf I should propably restart something... process or computer... so what should I do to get the changes i have made activated
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so, should i restart clients or do something to the server
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<mrlinux>
deep-blue where is the lts.conf
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<deep-blue>
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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so maybe i should restart clients
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<yhan_>
hi
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I'm trying to setup sound in my ltsp ubuntu, but sound is playing on the server
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I have set sound_daemon = esd, and sound = true in lts.conf
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what could be wrong ?
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I'm running breezy
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<jammcq>
sound isn't supported in breezy
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although ogra may be able to tell you what you need to do, to make it work
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<ogra>
hmm, i think sound is rupported in breezy ... let me look
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<jammcq>
breezy ltsp ?
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<yhan_>
yes
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<jammcq>
I thought you only got it working in dapper
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<ogra>
i'm not sure, i need to pull the bzr branch to check ... takes a minute
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<yhan_>
np
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<jammcq>
yhan_: ogra is the guy who knows this stuff better than anyone
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<yhan_>
cool
18:26
btw ltsp is awesome
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<ogra>
in any case the variables should be capitalized in lts.conf ....
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<yhan_>
I could not believe what I saw, setup a diskless and term server in a few commands
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<jammcq>
:)
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<ogra>
and SOUND_DAEMON was in all implementations esd, so no need to set that ...
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SOUND=True sould suffice
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<yhan_>
even the values ?
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[Default]
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SOUND = True
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SOUND_DAEMON = esd
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NETWORK_COMPRESSION = True
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that's the exact content of my lts.conf
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<ogra>
that looks fine ... even though breezy surely didnt have NETWORK_COMPRESSION
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grmbl ... bzr doesnt like me ...
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<yhan_>
terminal is rebooting
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the local sound board is enabled,
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btw if esd is enabled I should be able to do a telnet termip 16001 from an another computer, right ?
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<ogra>
ah, i created the sound branch on dec 12 2005 ... breezy was released in october ...
18:31
so i fear you wont get sound in breezy without big effort
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<yhan_>
ok you're giving me necessary kick in my ass to migrate my machine to dapper :)
18:32
<ogra>
no, take edgy :)
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ltsp made a quantum jump between edgy and dappe
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<yhan_>
that machine is the last one running breeze
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<ogra>
*dapper
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<yhan_>
great
18:32
one last question
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mythclient over ltsp, is it usable ?
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<jammcq>
search google for 'myth ltsp'
18:33
people have done it
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with Ubuntu's ltsp, it should be even easier
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<yhan_>
perfect !
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thanks for you help guys !!
18:34
greatly appreciated
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<jammcq>
the trick is, you want to run the myth client ON the thin client
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<yhan_>
local app
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<ogra>
yeah, i bought a new TV set for christmas ... with VGA-in ... i'll soon write a plugin for mythtv so you can just install ltsp with --myth-client option in the future and ahave y living room thin-client media center
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<yhan_>
I'll check for that, I don't have my real thinclients hardware yet
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I've been running mythtv for 2 years
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<ogra>
get one from disklessworkstations.com
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<yhan_>
mythtv is great
18:35
do you know solarpc ? from solarpc.com ?
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anyway I have to go, thanks again
18:36
<ogra>
nope
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<yhan_>
solarpc is a bit cheaper
18:36
thanks for the link
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bye bye
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<ogra>
quite bug cases for a thin client
18:36
ciao :)
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<boog>
exit
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quit
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bye
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