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Channel log from 12 October 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<gnunux>
hi
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<jimjimovich>
anyone using Ubuntu one or Dropbox on ltsp?
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<coordinador>
hi everybody
08:20
is there any problem with ubuntu 10.04 64bit?
08:20
my ltsp system is for a classroom
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<Appiah>
O_o
08:49
<highvoltage>
people should really learn to be a bit more patient :)
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<[GuS]>
maybe he went to bathroom :P
09:23
<highvoltage>
I'm sure this channel allows idleing while going to the bathroom :)
09:24
(if not, I'm in deep trouble)
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<coordinador>
hi, how can i now the ltsp version that i have? i ve updated from ubuntu 9.04 to 10.04
09:32
...with a command
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<coordinador>
if i have a ltsp system in a children's classroom, which ubuntu is more convenient to install in the server? ubuntu server or desktop?
09:36
is ubuntu 64bit ready for a common home use? (flash etc..)
09:38
<[GuS]>
I think you didn't read very well the difference between desktop and server versions.
09:38
and for me, 64bits works well enough for commons stuff in a desktop environment
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<[GuS]>
and in a server, works great.
09:42
<coordinador>
[GuS], some guy told me that 64bit system needs some tweaking to works weel
09:42
*well
09:42
and the performance gaining doesnt worth it
09:43
<[GuS]>
well, i use it for years and i dont have to tweak anything
09:43
and i use it for my server and for my every desktops/laptop
09:45
<coordinador>
since i use the server as ltsp server, do you think is more convenient to install ubuntu desktop 64 in this case (because its more friendly for users than server)?
09:45
<gnujach>
hi, how to load Local Application with client 256mb ram but client with less do not use local application?
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<gnujach>
some manual a think what modified my dhcpd.conf for load two images i386?
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<coordinador>
I had an error when i upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, related to tftp service, this would be fixed, right?
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<coordinador>
Is there a command to know which version of LTSP do I have?
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<coordinador>
I got an error doing ltsp-build-clien (fat client option) the error is: "debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3)"
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<coordinador>
i get three messages: "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Passthrough"
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then: "debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3)"
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and finally: "debconf: falling back to frontend: Noninteractive"
10:39
<mgariepy>
coordinador, dpkg -l | grep ltsp
10:40
are you using ubuntu or debian ?
10:40
<coordinador>
mgariepy, ubuntu
10:40
i upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 with commands
10:42
ltsp-manager 0.0.2-0ubuntu3, ltsp-server 5.2.1-0ubuntu9, ltsp-server-standalone 5.2.1-0ubuntu9, ltspfs 0.6.0-ubuntu1, python-ltsp 0.2-0ubuntu2
10:43
<mgariepy>
what's your ltsp-build-client commands?
10:44
<coordinador>
i dont know, i just follow the instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
10:45
<mgariepy>
all you did was ltsp-build-client?
10:46
<[GuS]>
guys, when try to build LTSP client on gentoo, i have this error: http://pastebin.com/fPE62Jd8 seems it cant extract the stage image.
10:46
<coordinador>
i did everything except the 9.10 extra steps
10:47
<mgariepy>
can you pastebin your /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf ?
10:47
<[GuS]>
mgariepy: yes
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<mgariepy>
sorry [GuS] i was talkgin to coordinador ;)
10:48
<[GuS]>
and in the script of quickstart i see: http://pastebin.com/CseZfLkW so far, nothing wrong
10:48
<coordinador>
mgariepy, do you say that to me or gus?
10:48
oh
10:48
<mgariepy>
[GuS], i never played with gentoo ltsp sorry
10:48
<[GuS]>
ahh jeje
10:49
<coordinador>
mgariepy, http://pastebin.com/zMVA5sxn
10:49
[GuS], me neither, never used ltsp+gentoo
10:49
<dberkholz>
[GuS]: in modules/misc.sh, perhaps one use of ${tar_flags} (on line 30) has $(tar_flags) instead
10:49
<coordinador>
sorry.
10:50
<dberkholz>
tar_flags is clearly supposed to be a variable but this error message "tar_flags: command not found" suggests it's being called as a function
10:51
<[GuS]>
exactly
10:51
is what i was thinkin
10:51
<mgariepy>
coordinador, are you building a fat client or a thin client image ?
10:52
<coordinador>
fat client, doing exactly the instructions on that page
10:52
<[GuS]>
this is the misc.sh (Part) http://pastebin.com/CseZfLkW
10:52
<coordinador>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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mgariepy, apparently everything is ok because the installing continued after that error
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now is unpacking and selecting packages
10:53
but that error has appeared many times and i dont know what does it mean
10:54
i ve looking in google but this error appeared in older ubuntu versions
10:54
in other circumstances.
10:54
<mgariepy>
ok
10:54
i'm out for lunch now,
10:54
i guess the error is related to the chroot, and some stuff in /proc /dev not present.
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<[GuS]>
dberkholz: this is wrong: tar_flags = "xv"
10:55
should be tar_flags="xv"
10:55
without spaces.
10:55
<dberkholz>
ah, someone's been writing too much python.
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<[GuS]>
indeed :P
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<coordinador>
ok mgariepy thank you very much anyways
11:01* Kyle__ sighs.
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<Kyle__>
student computer labs would be so much nicer without the students in them.
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<[GuS]>
:O
11:04
<Kyle__>
[GuS]: Sorry, I just had a student ask for a new account, because she can't get into yahoo mail.
11:04
<[GuS]>
damn!
11:04
then you are right :P
11:05
i used to have those kind of students... :S
11:06
<Kyle__>
[GuS]: I even put them in their very own Windows VMs, so they can change everything they want, aren't locked down at all. And they still come up with junk like that.
11:06
<[GuS]>
:(
11:07
<Kyle__>
If they were asking for a haskell compiler, or R, or some way to scan excel files for data, then I'd be all over it.
11:07
<[GuS]>
hehe
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<coordinador>
help pls, which file do i have to modify to disable "FAT_CLIENTS" option??
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<Kyle__>
coordinador: Err, I think it's how/when you build the image.
11:28
coordinador: edit the /etc/ltsp-build-client.conf, and take out the fat-client bits. Make a new image based on that ltsp-build-client.conf file
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<coordinador>
Kyle__, so you say that if i put a # in front of FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS="ubuntu-desktop" ...
11:31
... my clients will be not fat , right?
11:31
<Kyle__>
coordinador: You need to comment that out, and possibly your late-installs, and build a new image based on that file. ltps-build-image
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<coordinador>
ok, thank you
11:32
i will try,
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<Kyle__>
Hey alkisg.
11:41
<alkisg>
Hi Kyle__, hi all
11:41
<Kyle__>
Since I disabled the NBD-proxy, I haven't had a single lockup in either lab.
11:43
<alkisg>
Kyle__: nice, add your experience to the bug report
11:43
<Kyle__>
alkisg: I still don't quite follow how it caused the issue, just that it did.
11:43
<alkisg>
I've seen nbd-proxy have multiple networking issues
11:44* alkisg hopes it was only used in ltsp-cluster installations, not in the default ltsp installation...
11:44
<Kyle__>
I was gonna ask just that actually.
11:47
<[GuS]>
Guys, is been like 45 mins that the process is in http://pastebin.com/K370Ujht (LTSP5 gentoo). Iirc, this didnt take so long.
11:48
and is not extracting anything
11:48
<Kyle__>
[GuS]: Is it building a fat client image or something?
11:48
<[GuS]>
nope
11:49
inside /opt/lts/x86 is empty, only the symlink to the stage3 image
11:50
<Kyle__>
hum.
11:52
<dberkholz>
sounds like you might want to try a little older quickstart
11:53
<[GuS]>
dberkholz: indeed...
11:59
missing f arg in the tar...
11:59
who wrote this script? :P
12:00
arghhhhhh more and more problems... * could not set root password i will haev to use older quickstart...
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<[GuS]>
well... about the -m option, since chpasswd does not accept it anymore (same as -e), i've modified the script install_steps.sh to http://pastebin.com/ShLVDCQP
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now does work
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<johnny>
[GuS], settings the root password is easy
13:35
you can just chroot
13:35
if tha'ts the only thing that failed , you're ok
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<[GuS]>
yes, the only one and fixed with that small modification
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<johnny>
hmm, i idn't know quickstart was still being updated
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<[GuS]>
:S
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besides it has some sintax errors...
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like the one mentioned earlier: tar_flags = "xv" also this is missing the f arg
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<vagrantc>
hrm. new ldm failed to build :(
17:49
will have to look into it later...
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<kusanagi>
hi, im creating an image and i get this error http://pastebin.com/xVwBd7xU
20:24
what can i do now?
20:25
it autoselects c (cancel)
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<kusanagi>
so i cant interact with it :S
20:27
i googled and this guy seems to have the same problem :S http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg38340.html
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just a little tip showing me the right direction would be enough :S
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