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ldm in lenny is not working any idea,
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it's claimed that it has nearly a 50% compression rate ... so having a swapfile in a tmpfs would actually gain us extra ram
ogra_cmpc: kernel module?
i'll examine it in intrepid for subnotebook stuff
no idea, i havent looked inside the tarball yet
just stumbled across
if that works we could even support 24M clients out of the box without swapfiles :)
s/swapfiles/swapfiles from initramfs/
getting below 32M without network swap would be key.
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SD card with new hipeed technology
great, i am not able to get nbdwap working properly, i get "Device or resource busy" on swapon /dev/nbd1
it getsw to transfer rates of about 20M/s
which is faster than the 18M my laptop disk does :)
or any of my usb keys
ogra_cmpc: that compcache thing is slick ... it's implemented as a block device
i'll set up a spec for next UDS :)
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ogra_cmpc: you install the module and just do: swapon /dev/compcache0
it may just eat whatever ram it uses though ... not dynamically allocating it
i'm curious what our kernel team will say
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ogra_cmpc: would it be possible to use ltsp in a virtual machine (Xen, vbox or something else). I would like to create a production and a test environnement.
i'm using for tests it in virtualbox
*using it for tests
|10:32||* vagrantc uses virtualbox daily for ltsp development|
|10:33||* vagrantc used to use qemu a fair bit for ltsp development|
|10:33||* cyberorg too|
What about Xen (pro/cons)
how do I tell irc I'm not away?
/away says I'm away
steph_: i haven't tried xen as a thin-client, but the main LTSP deployment i admin uses a xen ltsp server.
rjune__: with irssi ... "/away foo message" and "/away" says no longer away
for some reason /away is registering as still away
vagrantc, ogra_cmpc we've sent two patches on the ML, one today for plugin and one earlier for ldm, how does it get committed in trunk?
cyberorg: well, seems like you're the (open)suse developer ... should give you commit access
ogra_cmpc: regarding the ldm-arbitrary-xserver-opts ... i don't particularily care about which options are supported, but do you like the idea of moving code out of LDM itself and into the screen script?
vagrantc, i'll be sorting out plugin bits in more detail, for now my main concern was to get everything working, i guess we are almost at par with ubuntu implementation feature wise :)
we get TC to boot up even on 128M ram without swap, if i could get swap working, may be it would work with 62M too
I read there's also KVM (kernel virtual machine). I would like to give a try, but I want to choose the more stable solution (Xen, VirtualBox, KVN, VWare, etc.) Any advices?
steph_: KVM pretty much requires hardware support in your CPU
steph_: virtualbox is most useful for testing- it's (exclusivevly?) GUI
steph_: but i wouldn't run virtualbox as a server ...
steph_: vmware is propreitary. blech :)
steph_: i don't know how Xen would handle as a client, but works great as a server.
vagrantc: what do you mean about "hardware support"?
steph_: qemu *feels* more flexible than virtualbox to me.
steph_: like, if you don't have the right CPU, it won't work
or rather, it'll fall back to using regular qemu
and then you may as well just use qemu
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xen can do either full virt or paravirt
I'm not sure if paravirt can do PXe
xen fullvirt uses qemu
vagrantc: virtualbox can also be run from the command line, FYI
vagrantc: I read that KVM is qemu plus some great kernel level stuff. How can I know if my CPU can work with KVM?
*quote: "Ubuntu Linux will use KVM as its primary virtualization software" - Cannonical...
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genkernel has an exit 255 :(
# End of execution for now
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johnny: someday you'll look back and say ... "i'm glad i got that out of the way"
johnny: when you're past the initial implementation and on to maintenance and feature development :)
i'm getting closer!
sounds like it :)
and.. i will be able to run it with i386 and virtualbox :)
i think it was worth the hour to figure that out up front..
since i leanred something i can use elsewhere
with my last virtualbox upgrade, i started having problems with older versions of pxelinux :(
actually, it's cuz of reading warren's code
i saw him using setarch, so i went and looked it up
although i'm not entirely sure it was the last upgrade, as it *was* working even with the new version at least a few times.
i've gotten two fixes added to our chroot creator script in the process :)
this exit255 thing i was actually stuck on for an hour or two before
i kept getting this after building the kernel
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
with not much info :(
looked all around the ltsp code, which is a benefit somewhat
saw the trap on_exit
looked in gekernel.. and bam
funny comment in the script tho
## unionfs is deprecated, use aufs
but there is no --aufs flag :(
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and this exit 255 only exists in the forked genkernel we're using, the one that supports unionfs
the other one doesn't have it..
time to find the author..
and of course.. he is out today :(
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ogra_cmpc: i just realized ... if it's only a small number of lts.conf options ... you can pass them on the boot prompt
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ARP timeout.... what could that be?
ever see alf?
You talkin' to me?
vagrantc, +1 (moving X server config out of ldm and into the screen script)
vagrantc, makes it easier to unify it with xdmcp and other screen scripts as well.
I've got a thin client that is clearly seeing the server on boot (changes to DHCP settings effect the startup client IP, Mask, DHCP, gateway).... yet I'm getting ARP timeouts
I've got lots of other non-thin-clients using the server as a DHCP and they can access network / internet fine
is the pxe booting?
I did some playing around and I got the ARP message to go away but now it says "TFTP open timeout"
http://dpaste.com/39755/ <---- my dhcp conf
is the ip it's trying to get to running the tftp server?
Now its simply hanging on TFTP "TFTP....."
yes, the DHCP IP is correct
192.168.0.10 is the server
and all other machines that use this as DHCP work.
you could try tftp from another machine on the network
see if it can connect to the server
warren: glad you like the idea.
MacIver: I apt-got tftp but its pretty ambiguous as to whether its actually connecting
ping works but tftp <ip> does not much
subsume: you can try to actually download the ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
MacIver: even that command just hangs
transfer timed out, eventually
Do I need to be resetting TFTP as well as DHCP when making changes?
subsume: iirc tftp server should be started by inetd on the server machine
MacIver: its started. I wonder if it should be restarted when I change dhcp.
subsume: i don't see why it would
so timeout. but I get the timeout message no matter what IP I try as server
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probably because none of those servers are running tftp?
vagrantc, or rather, it might be acceptable to be in ldm only if it shares the config with other screen scripts
vagrantc, but that seems more difficult
how do you know tftp server is going?
If in doubt, run wireshark on the server and watch for TFTP traffic
MacIver: 192.168.0.10 is running TFTP.... I know this because.... I started it myself?
run wireshark and see what the client is asking for exactly
I figured out my clients were asking for the wrong arch this way
subsume: started it yourself...hmmm, like i said, normally on distros i've seen it automagically started by inetd
MacIver: I restarted it myself is what I mean, sorry.
warren: ok...wireshark installing
inetd 'starts' it whenever someone connects :-p
subsume, setup a filter before you start logging or you'll have too muc
warren: is wireshark graphical?
subsume, optionally graphical
warren: could you recommend a filter?
sorry, nee dto sleep
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so no response from the server?
I'm not getting anything with wireshark
I scoured logs. Tres difficile.
using the gui?
MacIver: Nah... headless server
subsume: you could run it ssh -Y remotely :-D
I'm on macosx but let me try that from another client
why not from macosx?
you can do it from there
getting errors from client too
X window system error
A less ambiguous tftp client would be ideal =)
this tftp thing sucks bad.
MacIver: in case the actual thin client output sparks something....
When I comment out the next server option in DHCP, I get TFTP open timeout.
I am not sure which error is preferable.
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MacIver: I'm able to see other client requests for ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 using wireshark
MacIver: but they time out
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Hi, all is lenny uses ldm or sdm,
I am not prompted to GUI