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Channel log from 20 February 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<zamba>
tftp doesn't work across subnets?
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<HrdwrBoB>
no
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<zamba>
HrdwrBoB: why not?
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<zamba>
HrdwrBoB: i just tested, it works fine
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12:11
<Hyperbyte>
Hey Alkis. :)
12:15
<alkisg>
Hi Hyperbyte, hi all
12:15
<highvoltage>
hey everyone
12:15* alkisg just came back from the gates of Hades
12:15
<alkisg>
Literally, not figuratively :D
12:16
7 hours hiking in Acheron river, a very good time
12:16
<Hyperbyte>
Pics or it didn't happen!
12:16
=D
12:16
<alkisg>
Heh :) Soon, I don't have the strength to do it now :D
12:17
<Hyperbyte>
Hehehe, aawwwe
12:17
<alkisg>
Andoid worked fine with offline maps though
12:17
<Hyperbyte>
Wait - when did this happen?
12:17
Offline maps?
12:17
<alkisg>
I saved them from google earth and saw them with a program called rmaps without online connection
12:18
<Hyperbyte>
Oh, I thought they had finally made it as a basic feature.
12:18
<alkisg>
Nah. But at least it's very easily doable
12:18
<Hyperbyte>
=)
12:18
I dislike the compass in the HTC Desire
12:18
<alkisg>
http://mobac.dnsalias.org/
12:19
<Hyperbyte>
The compass doesn't function properly when you hold the phone upright (for me anyways)
12:19
It constantly switches directions, which is very annoying when you use it as a navigator.
12:19* alkisg has the ZTE Blade, compass works fine there
12:19
<Hyperbyte>
Since I use it on a scooter (don't have a driving license for a car) it's upright for navigation
12:20
<alkisg>
Ah. I didn't try holding it upright and using the compass
12:20
<Hyperbyte>
Often it sends me in a completely wrong direction, because the compass thinks I'm coming from another way
12:21
Still need to find some way to disable the compass, if that's at all possible with maps.
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<Hyperbyte>
Oh well. So how was it? And how's the weather like? It's way too cold to go hiking in a river here. =)
12:23
<alkisg>
It's the best weather for hiking, not too warm, not too cold. Great company so we had a very good time.
12:25
<Hyperbyte>
Awesome. =)
12:26
<vagrantc>
mmmm. hiking
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<jhutchins>
Is there any organized effort underway to get the currently available documentation to agree with the currently available packages and features, or even with itself?
13:02
<alkisg>
More specifically?
13:02
What do you mean "available packages"?
13:21
<zamba>
is it possible to boot ltsp over http instead of tftp?
13:22
tftp over wan took forever
13:22
<alkisg>
zamba: only the kernel is loaded with tftp
13:22
The rest is NBD
13:22
What's your connection speed?
13:23
<zamba>
measured to around 3 mbps
13:23
<alkisg>
That's extremely low for LTSP
13:23
<zamba>
it's over a udp tunnel
13:24
<alkisg>
Better try nx instead
13:24
<zamba>
i'm just going to test it, not use it
13:24
testing the gconf stuff
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<alkisg>
I think the gconf stuff can also be tested with nx
13:24
<zamba>
nono.. the real users are connected with LAN
13:24
<alkisg>
Yup, I remember you setup, I think
13:24
<zamba>
alkisg: how do i set up nx then?
13:25
<alkisg>
In your server, `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:freenx-team && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install neatx-server`
13:25
In your client, download the nx client from the nomachine site
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<vagrantc>
jhutchins: as people report missing documentation, or issues, it gets fixed.
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<zamba>
alkisg: let's try :)
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<zamba>
alkisg: and how do i launch a tc session with nx?
13:30
hm.. "Reached the maximum number of allowed users on this server"
13:31
<alkisg>
Erm what says that?
13:31
<zamba>
the nx client when i try connecting to the host
13:32
http://pastebin.com/LLVd12v6
13:33
<alkisg>
The neatx-server doesn't have a limit
13:33
<zamba>
that's the one i've installed
13:34
oh, hold on.. maybe i've already tested nxserver
13:37
no init.d-script to start it?
13:37
<alkisg>
neatx-server is completely automatic
13:37
You just need to apt-get install it, no more worries
13:37
<zamba>
oh
13:37
let's try
13:38
heh
13:39
why am i not surprised:
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http://pastebin.com/vKTNk2Rz
13:39
stuff NEVER works for me
13:39
it's like an addition to murphy's law specifically for me
13:39
"stuff that works for everyone else, fails for you without reason"
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<alkisg>
What are you running to see that output?!
13:40
The command I run is /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
13:40
And it doesn't have such output
13:41
<zamba>
if i click detail after it has failed
13:41
<alkisg>
Ah
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<zamba>
*sigh*
13:42
<alkisg>
Maybe something from your nxserver installation messes with neatx-server
13:42
Wrong keys or whatever
13:43
<zamba>
could be
13:43
but i tried purging everything
13:43
<alkisg>
Are you seated on a thin client now?
13:44
<zamba>
nope
13:44
i'm miles and miles away from the site :)
13:45
<alkisg>
And for "Desktop" you have "Unix, GNOME"?
13:45
<zamba>
yup
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<alkisg>
Also check your ~/.xsession-errors
13:45
Or the other logs on your server
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Like daemon.log etc
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<zamba>
looking at syslog now
13:47
tailing it
13:48
http://pastebin.com/yUR0PCUM
13:48
looks like it's nagging about a missing font
13:49
*googling*
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<zamba>
alkisg: any ideas?
15:54
alkisg: about nx and why it won't work for me
15:55
<alkisg>
zamba: wrong settings by previous nxserver installation?
15:56
<zamba>
alkisg: which files are common between them?
15:56
alkisg: i've tried purging what i can
15:56
<alkisg>
No idea, I'd have to check manually
15:56
Did you find out anything about the fixed font problem?
15:56
<zamba>
i'm so tired of banging my head against problems that noone else has
15:57
nope
15:57
just a few unanswered forum posts
15:57
<alkisg>
Try testing on VM servers before deploying on production servers
15:57
With a VM it's easy to roll back and retry
15:57
<zamba>
it looks like the problem with the default font is what leads to the session not starting
15:58
Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: DEBUG daemon:461 /usr/bin/nxagent[5109] stderr: Error: Aborting session with 'Could not open default font 'fixed''.
15:58
Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: ERROR agent:376 Agent error: Aborting session with 'Could not open default font 'fixed''.
15:58
Feb 20 22:54:50 thinny nxnode[5104]: DEBUG daemon:461 /usr/bin/nxagent[5109] stderr: Session: Aborting session at 'Sun Feb 20 22:54:50 2011'.
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<nothingman>
hi, all
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