IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 4 May 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<juaquim>
alguem fala portugues, aqui ?
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<Guaraldo>
juaquim: O canal oficial em Portugues é o LTSP-BR
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<juaquim>
mas la ninguem fala nada Guaraldo... hehe
07:00
fica tudo mundo quetinho
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
hi! dhcp is up and working, in daemons.log i see that a client nic asked for a ip, my dhcp servers does the offer.. and its a loop in these 2 actions. in the client side the client says "no ip addres
07:12
ideas?
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<mhterres>
hello
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<jkommeri>
is there any howto to ltsp sounds?
07:38
can't find anything about microphones
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<cliebow_>
i dont know as there is anything
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<jkommeri>
what do I have to do to enable microphones?
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<cliebow_>
in ltsp5 we'll have to catch ogra..
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<jkommeri>
ok
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<jkommeri>
ogra: what do I need to do to enable microphones on ltsp5?
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
hi! dhcp is up and working, in daemons.log i see that a client nic asked for a ip, my dhcp servers does the offer.. and its a loop in these 2 actions. in the client side the client says "no ip addres"
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<cliebow_>
better pastebot.ltsp.org your dhcpd.conf
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
my dhcpd.conf is in http://pastebot.ltsp.org/119
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<Lumiere>
cliebow_: any reason we're not using lisppaste?
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<cliebow_>
Lumiere, i never heard of it...
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<cliebow_>
pablo-uy-mvd, i see nothing at all wrong with dhcpd.conf
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!lisppaste
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<ltspbot>
cliebow_: Error: "lisppaste" is not a valid command.
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
cliebow: yes its strange... daemons.log says dhcp is offering ips to the nics of my clients.. but something goes wrong inmediatly after that offer cause clients say no ip address
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<cliebow_>
ohhh. it cant hurt to define next-server in there..where your tftp stuff is
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<jkommeri>
pablo-uy-mvd: have you tried dhclient?
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<RiXtEr>
hey all, say i wanted to use this variable set remote_dir "\/mnt\/md0\/\`date \"\+\%A\"\`" , only make it a constant variable. The script is ran around midnight, so it changes in the middle of the script, I would like it to always be just one day.
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<Lumiere>
cliebow_: paste.lisp.org
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
jkommeri: its a diferent dhcpserver?
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<jkommeri>
you have multiple?
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<cliebow_>
Lumiere:i nevr seen that before..ill try it
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<Lumiere>
cliebow_: you can get a bot from them
08:42
that does paste
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<jkommeri>
pablo-uy-mvd: I meant that you can check whether your dhcp-server is working with dhclient
08:43* Lumiere uses lisppaste5 in #schooltool
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<pablo-uy-mvd>
jkommeri: ok. how do i check that?
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<jkommeri>
pablo-uy-mvd: just use the command with no parameters
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it should broadcast a query
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<cliebow_>
Lumiere, sure sounds like a great idea..jammcq must be operator here?
08:45ChanServ sets mode: +o Lumiere
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<Lumiere>
that I can help you with XD
08:46
but yes
08:46
jammcq is the owner of the channel
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<cliebow_>
lets try it..dont you think?
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<jkommeri>
ogra: are you there?
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<Lumiere>
I'll look in a moment
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<jammcq>
hola
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<mhterres>
hola :-D
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<Guaraldo>
Hi, jammcq
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<jammcq>
hey luiz
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hey mhterres, how you doin?
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<mhterres>
great
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<Guaraldo>
jammcq: fine...
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jammcq: And you?
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<jammcq>
doing great
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<MrNobody>
hi
09:32
does anyone know why do I get RPC: portmap not responding (errno -5) when I try to mount a NFS share in a client terminal?. portmap,nfs are running and listening and exports are configured correctly..
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<cliebow_>
hmm..does netstat -anp|grep ":111" tell you anything?
09:43
adding memory..bbiab
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<MrNobody>
cliebow:sorry went to pee. yep netstat -an gives me the following tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
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udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
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<jammcq>
MrNobody: do this on the server: showmount -e
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<MrNobody>
I had: permission denied errors before but after a disable the firewall using redhat-config-securitylevel I just get not responding...
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<MrNobody>
jammcp: it shows /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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/opt/ltsp/i386 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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<jammcq>
ok, so that looks fine. next thing to check is the 'broadcast' setting in dhcpd.conf
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<MrNobody>
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
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<jammcq>
hmm, that should be fine
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<MrNobody>
if I do tail -f /var/log/messages while the client tries to mount the filesystem. it says : rpc.mountd autenticad mount request from 192.168.0.10
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<jammcq>
hmm
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<jkommeri>
MrNobody: what have you set as nfsroot in dhcpd.conf
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<MrNobody>
if you mean: option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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where 192.168.0.254 is the IP of my server
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<jkommeri>
ok
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<jkommeri>
I have that without ip
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option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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<jkommeri>
I had the same problem
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<MrNobody>
did that solve it?
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<jkommeri>
try without that ip for instance
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<jammcq>
for ltsp-4.2, that should work just fine
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<MrNobody>
ok thanks. bt I am using ver 3.0 (a school assignment)
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<jkommeri>
ok
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<jammcq>
oooooooh
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another one of those school assignment guys
10:01
even 3.0 should work fine with that
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<jkommeri>
:)
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<Blinny>
jammcq: I don't know if you saw - that K12 firefox crashing problem turned out to be a bug in FF's javascript handling that caused a display manager crash.
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<MrNobody>
thanks :) I will give it a shot
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<jammcq>
Blinny: wow, that's really strange. did you find a fix for it?
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<ogra>
MrNobody, so sbalneav's mail to your teacher had no effect ?
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<jsgotangco>
hey you guys how's UES
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<Blinny>
jammcq: Turning off javascript in FF seems to work (; -- But no, unfortunately not. I think it's more of an i810 bug than anything because OO Impress's javascript stuff caused the same behavior.
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<jammcq>
that's freaky
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I do an awful lot of javascript coding, and I can't imagine how that would affect the display mgr
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<cliebow_>
sucking up a pile of memory?
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<Blinny>
Yeah. It was one of those thing that I stumbled upon accidentally, and kept thinking "this can't be right".
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<ogra>
Blinny, what do yu have in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ?
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<Blinny>
ogra: I don't have an /etc/firefox
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<ogra>
using any esd related entry there will likely make newer ff's crash
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<Blinny>
This is 1.5.0.4
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<Lumiere>
ogra: enjoying UES?
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<ogra>
Lumiere, indeed :)
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<Lumiere>
I hear schooltool is a popular discussion in the edubuntu BOF XD
10:08* Lumiere works for the cando project now
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<highvoltage>
Lumiere: there's a schooltool maintainer here, so discussion around it did come up quite a bit
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<Lumiere>
highvoltage: I know...
10:08
highvoltage: I work for the project... as in I get paid for it
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<highvoltage>
Lumiere: are you implying that there are people working on it that are not being paid for it? :p
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<jsgotangco>
highvoltage: hey you
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<highvoltage>
hey jsgotangco
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<Lumiere>
at the moment... there are a couple
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<highvoltage>
ok, I didn't realise.
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<jsgotangco>
highvoltage: so how is sevilla treating you
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<Lumiere>
highvoltage: it's mostly student cando developers who will be paid stipend over the summer ^^
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<ogra>
Blinny, hmm, probably fedora sets th eFIREFOX_DSP variable somewhere else
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<jsgotangco>
wow interesting hosts
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<ogra_>
Blinny, hmm, probably fedora sets the FIREFOX_DSP variable somewhere else
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<highvoltage>
jsgotangco: weather is getting a bit better, the education summit has been good, busy winding down now
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<Blinny>
ogra_: Dig. But fixing it in FF won't cure the OOo ails though.
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<ogra_>
i only know that FF starts crashing in debian and ubuntu if it is set to something thats not "none"
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<jsgotangco>
that's good to know
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<jkommeri>
ogra: do you have any howtos for setting microphones in ltsp5?
10:16
ogra: or tips
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<ogra_>
jkommeri, note really ... its not yet implemented, even though pulse is able to
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*not
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you can look at the options set in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client script
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<jkommeri>
ogra: ok, so pulseaudio should be able to use microphones
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I will try that
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<ogra_>
it is only in feisty though
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<sutula>
cliebow: Just saw your domain when you rejoined...are you in Ellsworth?
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<cliebow_>
Y4es!
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know it?
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<sutula>
cliebow: I spent a summer in Bar Harbor many moons ago...totally beautiful area!
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<cliebow_>
For sure..i live in Southwest harbor
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run a tour boat in the summer
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<sutula>
sweet
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<cliebow_>
brother runs the high school there
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well the whole district
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<cliebow_>
we try to have out ltsp-by -the sea here in the Fall...
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i'm dodging out again for a minute..
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<cliebow_>
oops..have to wait for an iso to finish
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<sutula>
cliebow: I was there in the early 70's...always wanted to go back sometime, but have never managed to do it
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<cliebow_>
i moved there from Calif. in 73..been here ever since
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<sutula>
cliebow: small world...I was at JaxLab summer of 74
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<cliebow_>
cool..i have a few friends there who are senior scientists now..
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<sutula>
cliebow: Clearly, I wasn't gifted in biology :) but it was a fun summer
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<cliebow_>
i worked in Martin Kamen's lab at uc san diego
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i wasnt gifted either
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<uniconformist>
anyone here?
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<sepski>
naaaw
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<str4nd>
Argh, need Debian help, how to put eth0 to automatic bring up at boot?
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Now, if I reboot my server, I must to write ifup eth0
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<Blinny>
str4nd: I'm a Fedora user.. but surely Google knows the answer? Or ubuntu.com ?
13:24
Or #ubuntu?
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str4nd: If I had to guess, I'd say there was a checkbox somewhere in 'System Settings->Networking'
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<sutula>
str4nd: On Debian, briefly, /etc/init.d/networking brings it up
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str4nd: /etc/network/interfaces is the main file you'd probably want to modify to add/change interfaces
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<str4nd>
humm... :P
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<cliebow_>
str4nd: if you want it to start on boot auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
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<str4nd>
\o/
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<cliebow_>
ohhh..i get it
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\o/
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0
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<str4nd>
thanks cliebow_ ♥ ♥ ♥
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<cliebow_>
Yessir!..once in a while there is one i can answer correctluy
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<MRH2>
hi anybody know of any plans to integrate an NX client into LTSP
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<vagrantc>
MRH2: what sort of integration are you wanting? i believe you can configure LTSP clients to use it ...
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but as far as i know, there are no free software NX client implementations ...
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<MRH2>
ok anyone know of any pointers to adding the nx client to ltsp as an addon?
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trying to get an ltsp terminal connecting to a freenx server
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:)
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<vagrantc>
MRH2: what distro?
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<MRH2>
i am using 4.2 on centos5
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<Guaraldo>
MRH2: I have NX Client instaled on my LTSP server (4.2), and I can logon any X server with XDMCP and SSH enabled...
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Ah!, shure, and NX server installed
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ops... %s/shure/sure
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<MRH2>
maybe if i used ltsp 5 it would be easier
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<Guaraldo>
MRH2: You want to use NX Client on thinclients to access server?
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<MRH2>
yep
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<Guaraldo>
MRH2: I never tryed this... It must be very easier on LTSP5 (dpkg -i nxpackages)... bun on LTSP4.2 I don't think it's possible... :-/ Maybe if you could get the tarballs to compile, changing the destination directory and enabling localapps on clients...
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<mhterres>
MRH2: why ?
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<Guaraldo>
mhterres: encripted access, maybe!
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<vagrantc>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/FreeNX
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<mhterres>
MRH2: NX is not a good protocol, it will consume much bandwidth
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<MRH2>
if i'm reading this right in a nutshell ltsp 5 uses big chunks of the distro (incl kernel?) to take advantage of the distro maintaining this stuff anyway.
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<mhterres>
yep
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<mhterres>
this is the ltsp 5 approach
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different from 4.2
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<MRH2>
so doesn't that make it heavy (slow)
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<vagrantc>
it has incurred a little performance hit, to varying degrees.
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#NX
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<MRH2>
cool
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i'll give it a shot
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<GiantPickle>
I've got one session that died on me saying on a particular terminal. There was a fatal error with gdm. Rebooting that terminal or killing X on that terminal will not allow that user to now login, but I can log other users on to that terminal. Can someone tell me what is wrong?
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erm... died on a particular terminal, saying there was...
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<MRH2>
user processes still running on the server?
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<GiantPickle>
doesn't look to be
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<vagrantc>
ltspbot: learn nx as http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#NX or http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/FreeNX
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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<vagrantc>
!nx
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "nx" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#NX or http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/FreeNX
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<GiantPickle>
MRH2: ah... actually there is one gconfd-2 process running... should I kill that
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<MRH2>
yeah go on kill em all
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<GiantPickle>
that is the only one
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I'll give it a shot
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<GiantPickle>
MRH2: thanks... that did it
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<MRH2>
ok folks i am off to try to get freenx working - thanks
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<frk2>
hey people
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anybody using ltsp 5 with Feisty?
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hmm
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<frk2>
anybody talking? no?
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<cliebow>
frk2:the chieefs are in Seevilla for ues
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<vagrantc>
frk2: ask a question and people will try to answer
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well, i guess the answer is "yes, people are using ltsp 5 with Feisty"
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:)
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<frk2>
heh
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excellent
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:)
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well - my issue is with ssh X forwarding
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<vagrantc>
how many, i can't say...
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<frk2>
seems to introduce quite a bit of lag (in graphical performance)
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the desktop is FAR more responsive with XDMCP
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<vagrantc>
sure
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<frk2>
was just wondering if theres anything i can do to speed up ssh - as i think its a excellent idea
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<vagrantc>
the main thing would be to turn off encryption, but that requires recompiling ssh
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<frk2>
couldnt find anything in the lists or online- so i was wondering if I'm the only one complaining :)
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hmm.. that was my last resort
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<vagrantc>
it's definitely an issue ... there's not much more to be done that we've come up with yet.
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<frk2>
hmm
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i guess i'll try that
16:30
but i'm guessing this makes its almost unusable in production
16:30
<vagrantc>
or just using XDMCP ... but then you loose local devices and such ...
16:30
<frk2>
since im running like a 8-10 person network off a VERY powerful server
16:30
Xeon 2.4G 2Gb ram - AND its slowing down-- BADLY.
16:30
<cliebow>
vagrantc:is thaat right..lose local devices if udsing xdmcp
16:30
?
16:30
<frk2>
yes
16:31
i think ldm runs a script (through ssh) - a feature you lose out in XDMCP
16:31
to mount the ltspfs devices
16:31
man- the local device support through ltspfs is SO awesome
16:31
<cliebow>
hmm.ltspfs is independent of ssh
16:32
<vagrantc>
scotty's working on getting both XDMCP and LDM to work with local devices ... don't know how far along it is
16:32
cliebow: not in the debian and ubuntu ltsp 5 implementations
16:32
<frk2>
no i know.. i think LDM makes the local devices happen (as far as i can see)
16:32
by ssh'ing and running a script- i might be wrong there
16:32
<vagrantc>
yes, there are scripts executed through the ssh tunnel
16:33
<frk2>
have you tried without encryption, vagrantc?
16:33
does it help?
16:33
<cliebow>
i have to read them..but ihavnt evgen gotten alal the way thru the initramfs yet
16:33
<frk2>
well ofcourse it will - but how much- will it be close to xdmcp performance?
16:33
<vagrantc>
i haven't tried it, but i hear it works like a plain-text read-my-keystrokes charm :)
16:33
<frk2>
hahahah
16:33
well
16:34
the only option is startx
16:34
<vagrantc>
performance wise, it makes a big difference.
16:34
<frk2>
where the FIRST thing you do is give ure password away :P
16:34
atleast the intiial password handshake is challenge/response in ssh.. even if the session is unencrypted
16:35
<vagrantc>
cliebow: what are you reading?
16:35
<frk2>
cool
16:35
im doing that RIGHT now
16:35
even though its 2.30am in my part of town
16:35
<cliebow>
trying to understand the workings of the initramfs
16:35
<vagrantc>
cliebow: ah.
16:35
<frk2>
I just wish i could turn off encryption by saying 'encryption = off' in sshd_config
16:35
:)
16:36
<vagrantc>
supposedly, it was approved for the ssh in ubuntu to get something like that some time ago, but it hasn't happened yet.
16:36
upstream absolutely refuses to allow it
16:36
<frk2>
yeah its obviously gay
16:36
defeats the purposes of 'secure' shell
16:37
<vagrantc>
ssh implements a lot of nice features beyond encryption ...
16:37
<cliebow>
vagrantc: did you see sbalneavs rescue ..
16:37
saved a life
16:37
<frk2>
i know.. but encryption was the main purpose
16:37
<vagrantc>
but i can see how having the possibility of running an insecure cipher might make a security compromise easier even if it were disabled.
16:38* vagrantc doesn't use flash
16:38* vagrantc didn't see it in person either
16:39
<frk2>
thanks vagrantc
16:39
i guess openssh unencrypted is what im gonna do
16:39
funny nobody online has complained about this
16:39
<vagrantc>
oh, they have
16:39
<frk2>
i cant find ANYTHING
16:39
i mean
16:39
like 1-2 posts
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but they just decide that xdmcp is the way to go
16:40
<vagrantc>
well, there's some simplicity to that ... :)
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<vagrantc>
if we get localdev and other support working with both XDMCP and LDM then it probably makes less sense to have an unencrypted ssh session
16:41
<frk2>
no man
16:41
load balancing is almost an impossibility with xdmcp
16:41
SO easy with ssh
16:41
<vagrantc>
trivial.
16:41
<frk2>
what with xdmcp?
16:42
<vagrantc>
yeah
16:42
<frk2>
like using what for instance?
16:42
<vagrantc>
you write a chooser that does the selection for you
16:42
<frk2>
are you talking about things which guess out XDM_SERVER for you?
16:42
yeah
16:42
you could
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<vagrantc>
or set up round-robin DNS on the hostname for the XDMCP server
16:43
<frk2>
okay THAT does not work
16:43
have you tried it?
16:43
lts.conf doesnt like hostnames there
16:43
<cliebow>
works for trask..
16:43
<frk2>
ok i tried it like 2 weeks ago.. not on ubuntu though
16:44
on Suse 9
16:44
but thats not load balancing
16:44
<cliebow>
load lghtening?
16:44
<frk2>
with ssh i can just do lvs
16:44
the XDM_SERVER deal is nice though
16:45
<vagrantc>
it's a form of load balancing.
16:45
<frk2>
i saw something which has agents on all X servers which can poll how many users and stuff and on there
16:45
i guess that would work
16:45
<cliebow>
how many users are you planning?
16:46
<frk2>
my largest client has 150
16:46
doing really gay things to distribute on 3 servers
16:46
basically dns round robing on the NFS server used for the root path
16:46
its really bad
16:46
but the hostname in lts.conf was not working with Suse 9
16:47
Ltsp 4.1
16:47
<cliebow>
yeah i can see where it could ..150 terminals.huh..at use at once
16:47
<vagrantc>
the more clients you have, the more likely round-robin DNS will be effective :)
16:47
<cliebow>
frk2:just use mac addy
16:47
<frk2>
i know.. on XDM_SERVER yes, on nfs root path its awful regardless
16:47
MAC addy?
16:47
<cliebow>
sure
16:47
<frk2>
oh to force xservers for certain thin clients?
16:47
<cliebow>
and 4.2 rockS for speed
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<frk2>
vagrantc - is there a config option i can pass to ssh server or do i have to edit source to disable encryption?
16:49
<cliebow>
4.2 is a quantum leap from 4.1
16:49
<frk2>
yeah i got another client running 4.2 with ubuntu- rocks!
16:50
but local device support through SMB is pretty bad
16:51
hmm
16:51
looks like no config option
16:51
:(
16:54
<cliebow>
no..4.2 has ltspfs
16:56
all my terminals are orphaned for ltsp5..most for 4.2
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<frk2>
whattt
16:58
trsllu
16:58
really
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<frk2>
do you know WHERE in ldm is the ssh connection to the server called?
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<frk2>
or where is it called period
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<cliebow>
trsllu?
17:01
oh
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<vagrantc_>
frk2: it's called around ine 200
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command = ['ssh'] + ssh_opts + ssh_auth + ssh_remote_command
17:08
well, a little afte rthat ...
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<frk2>
in ldm right?
17:08
i found it
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<vagrantc_>
yes, "where in ldm" suggested to look in ldm :)
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<frk2>
:)
17:09
<vagrantc_>
but i guess it could've been in another part
17:09
<frk2>
okay
17:09
so
17:09
theres no way to disable the cipher
17:09
i can put in some shit like arcfour
17:10
<vagrantc_>
is that faster than blowfish ?
17:10
<frk2>
its the LAST one in the list
17:10
'in order of preference'
17:10
so i guess it must be
17:11
its the worst cipher known to man, apparently
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<dberkholz>
preference is probably strength, not speed
17:11* vagrantc_ see aes256-ctr as the last
17:11
<dberkholz>
not necessarily correlated
17:11
<frk2>
true
17:11
i was following this guy
17:11
http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=115340669125114&w=2
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<dberkholz>
http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/theory.php also claims arcfour is fastest, though
17:13
whereas many other sites claim blowfish is
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17:13* vagrantc_ suspects the difference will be neglidgeable if there's no overwhelming agreement
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<frk2>
hmmm
17:15
okay
17:15
if encryption is not causing the lag
17:15
then what is
17:15
<vagrantc_>
why do you say it's not encryption?
17:16
<frk2>
actually i just found a bunch of unrelated posts - people saying that X interactive traffic would be not TOO affected
17:16
NX does ssh too
17:16
its almost like the connection is 'bufferred'
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<vagrantc_>
NX does some things locally ... which is clever.
17:16
<frk2>
yeah like caching
17:16
why didnt ltsp 5 just use NX?
17:17
:)
17:17
<vagrantc_>
there is no free software NX client, for one.
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<dberkholz>
well, there is knx
17:18
<frk2>
yeah i thought there was
17:18
no but isnt there FreeNX?
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<vagrantc_>
freenx is server only, last i heard
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<frk2>
hmm
17:21
so i cant disable encryption
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<vagrantc_>
not without re-compiling ssh
17:24
and patching it
17:24
<frk2>
okay
17:24
im sorry man im asking you for too much :)
17:25
but can you generally point me in the direction of this patch or the source file?
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<vagrantc_>
that, i don't know.
17:25
maybe ogra would know ...
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<cliebow>
im not convinced it will gain you what you want
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<frk2>
why not cliebow?
17:28
you think the problem is somewhere else?
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<cliebow>
i just dont think it has all been anywhere near optimized yet..
17:35
it took jammcq et al 7 years to come to 4.23
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and ogra/vagrantc have had very little time
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<frk2>
but cliebow
17:36
the X part is something they dont touch
17:37
its not exactly a part of 'ltsp' per se
17:37
<cliebow>
but moving it across the network..
17:38
i know these guys well enough that some ddramatic improvemnts are forthcoming
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<frk2>
hmmm
17:38
okay
17:39
i hope :)
17:39
hmm
17:39
one thing thats totally weird though
17:40
yeah- this delay wasnt their with Ubuntu 6.05
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6.06
17:40
that was also using ldm
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and ssh
17:40
weird
17:41
<cliebow>
ogra needs to clarify..he is six hours forward right now..so he is sleeping hopefully
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<frk2>
alright
17:41
thanks man
17:41
im gonna catch some sleep too
17:41
3.40am here :P
17:41
thanks!!!
17:41
<vagrantc_>
frk2: ah, it was working fine with 6.06 ?
17:41
<cliebow>
good grief!
17:41
<vagrantc_>
that's more useful information.
17:42
<frk2>
yes
17:42
i JUST remembered
17:42
it was Okay
17:42
i mean
17:42
<vagrantc_>
i mean, i'm still clueless, but ... :)
17:42
<frk2>
i didnt feel too much difference
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<frk2>
maybe something in the kernel/etc causing encryption to slow down?
17:43
actually- now that i remember it- there was minimal delay
17:44
can i profile ssh encryption somehow?
17:44
<cliebow>
dunno
17:51
<frk2>
anyways guys
17:51
thanks again
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<vagrantc_>
oh yeah, sleep.
17:52
<frk2>
see you later
17:52
:)
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