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Channel log from 23 December 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<joeoshawa>
help???
00:46
please
00:46
<muppis>
Just ask. If someone knows, s/he answers.
00:46
And I should start reading buffers..
00:47
joeoshawa, what is your actual command to start build clients?
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<joeoshawa>
one sec
00:50
sudo ltsp-build-client —-arch i386
00:51
http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NfLiVdCr
00:51
this is the result
00:52
i got dhcp working after much hair removal and fallout
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<muppis>
joeoshawa, looks like it doesn't get that --arch at all. If you're using only i386 clients look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients#Creating%20ltsp-build-client.conf
00:56
<joeoshawa>
i agree looking now thanks
00:56
<alkisg>
(08:51:06 AM) joeoshawa: sudo ltsp-build-client —-arch i386 ==> watch the dashes, they are different
00:57
<joeoshawa>
i copy and pasted that maybe it was wrong
00:58
it says specific to 9.1 and 10.04 i am 10.10 will that be a problme
00:58
problem
00:59
<muppis>
It works fine. I think should say specific to 9.1 and above.
00:59
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: no, just try typing this by yourself
00:59
it's --, not —-
01:00
sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
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<joeoshawa>
sudo ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
01:02
k just checking
01:04
running now this takes forever
01:04
i can't believe that was it but i mean i spent the last two days on dhcp so my brain is fried
01:05
the whole two nic's and two subnet and what a subnet sis etc etc etc
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<gnunux>
hi
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<baiki>
why can i just login with one username. new ones won't be accepted (sshd says all succeeded with auth though)
05:02
<Gremble>
did you select a session first?
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<baiki>
@grembie, no i did not since with my own username on this thin client i don't have problem, just the new ones. but will try to choose session first!
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<baiki>
how to fix this one: http://pastebin.com/8m1CLv1j
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<alkisg>
!compiz
06:16
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "compiz" :: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
06:16
<alkisg>
baiki: this is probably your problem ^
06:16
!disable_compiz
06:16
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "disable_compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
06:17
<alkisg>
baiki: try this ^^^ and if it solves your problem, mention it in the bug report and also attach your ~/.xsession-errors there
06:17
...and your client graphics card model, with lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
06:20
<baiki>
thanks a lot. will do so. and where can i find this bug report (or do i have to start one?)?
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<baiki>
but will this compiz change affect also the server settings? or just for for thin clients?
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<alkisg>
baiki: yes, it will affect the server tooo
06:52
Do you want compiz on the server?
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<alkisg>
The bug report is there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/673072
06:54
<baiki>
@alkisg: ok, will test today or tomorrow. thanks a lot!
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<baiki>
merry xmess
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<robehend1>
alkisg: An update to your N-computing question you had asked a few weeks ago. I came in this morning to discover a normal windows update had broken their V-space software, requiring me to rollback the update, and reinstall the vspace for all my workstations. That was N-computings fix for the problem, mind you. No patch. Just uninstall the needed security updates so our stuff works again!
07:56
<alkisg>
robehend1: heh... thanks for the info, I already convinced the other teachers here not to even try it :)
07:57
<robehend1>
wooo
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<muppis>
robehend1, you asked about possible Windows IO issues in KVM. I tested today with XP and according that short testing against net and disk IO, I was pleased even without using virtio drivers.
08:01
robehend1, so my advice about that was outdated.
08:04
<robehend1>
niiiice
08:05
that'll make it much easier to setup next week
08:05
espicially since the machine will only be a backup domain controller, no dns/dhcp/printers/etc
08:06
<muppis>
And if you provide actual hardware for HDD, then you should hapy. We are using qcow2 imagefile.
08:06
happy..
08:07
<robehend1>
yep, it gets its own HD as well, since the other VM ill have on there will be LTSP, and I dont want Disk I/O fights
08:11
<muppis>
Sounds good.
08:13
<robehend1>
then i quit installing a full 10.04 image just for the kids to use firefox in the kindergarten room. Oh happy day.
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<alkisg>
Is there a reason nbdswapd can't create sparse files? They're shared over the network, is it a problem if they're sparse?
08:45
(i.e. I think the client won't know they're sparse...)
08:48
<joeoshawa>
i got a dell t500 with 640 meg ram i am thin clienting dhcp is working and ltsp is up when i reboot the client i see eth1 nic link go down then come back up when the client passes bios
08:49
but i get operating system not found
08:49
on the client
08:51
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: sounds like you have not set the client to PXE boot
08:51
<joeoshawa>
i set network as the first boot option
08:52
<Gadi>
did the client do: DHCP .......
08:52
<joeoshawa>
no
08:52
<Gadi>
then, it is not properly set
08:52
<joeoshawa>
i was thinking maybe a bios update
08:53
<Gadi>
sometimes there is a separate BIOS option for network booting
08:53
<alkisg>
There might be 3 options in bios: (1) enable onboard LAN (2) enable boot rom (3) boot priority, first=lan
08:53
<Gadi>
aside from the boot order
08:53
<joeoshawa>
going into bios now
08:54
omg it takes forever
08:54
plug and play os to no?
08:54
reset config data
08:54
<alkisg>
But is this card onboard? Or is in on a PCI slot?
08:55
<joeoshawa>
pci
08:55
<alkisg>
Then it might not have a boot rom on it
08:55
<joeoshawa>
no onboard its a p111 500
08:55
<alkisg>
ok
08:56
<joeoshawa>
so why would it have a network boot option
08:58
<alkisg>
The BIOS is a generic software, to be used on computers with or without onboard NICs
08:58
If the NIC is not onboard an is on a PCI slot, then it can be whatever NIC - the BIOS can't know how to initialize all possible NICs in the world
08:59
*and
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09:00
<jammcq>
happy christmas and merry new year everybody
09:00
<Gadi>
somebody's got his English on
09:00
;)
09:00
<jammcq>
hey Gadi
09:00
<Gadi>
hey hey, jammcq
09:00
<joeoshawa>
so using it to network boot is impossible?
09:01
<Gadi>
"happy christmas"? jammcq - watching too much Harry Potter? :)
09:01
joeoshawa: go to etherboot.org and make yourself a boot floppy or boot CD
09:01
!etherboot
09:01
<ltspbot>
Gadi: Error: "etherboot" is not a valid command.
09:02
<Gadi>
hmmm
09:02
!topics
09:02
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "topics" :: To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
09:02
<Gadi>
!factoids search values
09:02
<ltspbot>
Gadi: No keys matched that query.
09:02
<jammcq>
harry potter? never seen it
09:02
<Gadi>
!factoids search --values
09:02
<ltspbot>
Gadi: More than 100 keys matched that query; please narrow your query.
09:02
<Gadi>
grr
09:02
<jammcq>
well... I did go to one of the movies with my kids, but quickly fell asleep
09:02
<Gadi>
!gpxe
09:02
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "gpxe" :: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
09:02
<Gadi>
ah!
09:02
<joeoshawa>
will do thanks
09:03
<Gadi>
jammcq: lol
09:03
jammcq: its nothing to be ashamed of
09:03
jammcq: we all know about the costumes in your closet
09:03
:)
09:03
<jammcq>
all of them?
09:03
ugh
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09:27
<alkisg>
Heh, ok, nbdswapd is already using sparse files. :D
09:27
Forgot about that
09:28* alkisg increases the local default for greek schools to 512Mb...
09:45
<joeoshawa>
downloaded the source tree but it says make: *** No rule to make target `bin/gpxe.dsk'. Stop.
09:45
it me i am sure but what am i doing wrong
09:47
lol first of all wrong command but i have a feeling the cd command will have the same result
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<joeoshawa>
nm got it
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<alkisg>
joeoshawa: you don't need to compile it, you can download a disk directly from their site
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<joeoshawa>
already done but for some reason it keeps ejecting the disk
10:03
for some reason it just keeps spitting it out
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<joeoshawa>
the read light flashes for a while then it spits it out
10:04
i will switch the cdroms and try again
10:06
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: does that client have a hard disk with an OS in it?
10:09
<joeoshawa>
no
10:09
no hdd connected
10:09
it was the cd rom
10:09
i have two in one connected i switched them and it worked i will tell you if it boots
10:13
ok this is what i get DHCP (net0.00.50:fc:54:c4:8e).... ok
10:14
net0: 192.168.0.20/255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.3
10:15
booting from filename "ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"
10:15
connection timed out
10:15
could not boot blah blah blah connetion timed out
10:15
no more network divices
10:16
devices
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<muppis>
Looked good till connection timeout.
10:16
<joeoshawa>
yeah i was excited
10:16
<alkisg>
Check your tftp settings
10:16
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
10:18
<joeoshawa>
checking the link hold on
10:18
thanks
10:20
running but no processes
10:21
let me make sure the file is there
10:23
first off its not there
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<m4xx>
i'm trying to run freenx with ltsp, i'm able to boot the client and login, but when on a thin client and i open msoffice using crossover then attempt to print something the connection dies. and i'm prompted with the login screen again. This does not seem to happen when using a the windows client.
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<joeoshawa>
hey
10:31
there is no ltsp directory there
10:32
but i need to know which one to point it to that file is in many places on ubuntu
10:32
10 files found
10:34
should i point it to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386?
10:35
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: grep TFTP_DIRECTORY /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
10:35
m4xx: "when on a thin client"... you run freenx from a thin client to connect to an nx server?
10:35
<m4xx>
yes sir
10:36
well, i'm running nomachines client
10:36
<alkisg>
m4xx: erm, freenx or nxclient from nomachine?
10:36
:)
10:36
And the problem only happens when you try to print?
10:37
<m4xx>
i think it happens when it tries to grab the printers
10:37
like the printer list
10:37
<alkisg>
Did you enable printer sharing in the nx client settings?
10:37
<m4xx>
i'm not trying to print to a printer connected or networked with the client
10:37
<joeoshawa>
TFTP_DIRECTORY="/var/lib/tftpboot"
10:37
<m4xx>
i'm trying to print to the server's printer
10:38
not sure how to properly phrase this
10:38
<joeoshawa>
so it is booting from the right directory
10:38
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 - is it there?
10:38
<joeoshawa>
yes
10:39
<m4xx>
i'm using office 2007, when i go to the print menu when it tries to populate the printers it crashes
10:39
<joeoshawa>
i did a search for files it is there
10:39
<alkisg>
m4xx: can you try that directly from the LTSP server, and not from a thin client? If it crashes from there too, then it isn't an LTSP problem...
10:39
<m4xx>
it does not
10:40
i first got everything working with the standard setup befor trying this
10:40
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: ok, continue the troubleshooting process, try to install tftp-hpa (the client) somewhere and to download the file as the wiki page suggests
10:41
<joeoshawa>
ok will have to continue later gtg
10:41
kids hungry
10:41
but very frustrating
10:41
<alkisg>
m4xx: do you see anything in the user's ~/.xsession-errors ?
10:42
<m4xx>
http://pastebin.us/1853
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<joeoshawa>
root@robinson:/opt/ltsp# grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /srv/tftp
10:52
it says it should contain nothing
10:53
sorry should return nothing
10:56
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: comment out that line in that files, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/opendbsd-inetd restart; sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
10:56
joeoshawa: then reboot the terminal
11:00
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart sudo: /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa: command not found
11:01
<alkisg>
sudo restart tftpd-hpa
11:03
<joeoshawa>
terminal rebooting
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<joeoshawa>
grrrrr
11:06
same
11:13
commented out the lines but still coming back the same
11:14
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: did you follow the instructions of the wiki page? Are all those correct?
11:14
<joeoshawa>
when i run the grep tftp /etc/inet.d.conf still comes back with all that
11:15
<alkisg>
Then remove that line from inetd.conf...
11:21
<joeoshawa>
what if i rename it and add .old and make a blank inet.d.conf
11:22
inetd.conf
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<alkisg>
Is that easier than removing a single line?!
11:23
Don't make a blank file, the other services won't work
11:25
<joeoshawa>
so what line do i remove there are four
11:25
<alkisg>
grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
11:26
Paste the output here
11:26
<joeoshawa>
# tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /srv/tftp
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<alkisg>
If that's the output, then you don't need to delete anything, your inetd.conf is ok in regards to tftp
11:29
Proceed with the rest of the troubleshooting steps
11:36
<joeoshawa>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7686 2010-08-26 01:47 lts.conf
11:36
this is not there
11:42
that is the last problem i see
12:02
sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa
12:02
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: to solve the problem faster, wanna vnc?
12:02
<joeoshawa>
cd /tmp $ tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 10.160.31.10 (10.160.31.10), port 69 getting from 10.160.31.10:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Received 14776 bytes in 0.0 seconds [2672575 bit/s]
12:03
<alkisg>
Ah, so tftp works
12:03
Nice
12:03
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 10.160.31.10 (10.160.31.10), port 69 getting from 10.160.31.10:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Transfer timed out.
12:03
<alkisg>
Erm no, this is my ip
12:03
<joeoshawa>
sorry that one is mine
12:03
<alkisg>
Try with your own ip
12:03
10.160.31.10 is my ip, try with yours
12:08
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo tftp 192.168.0.3 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 mode set to octet Connected to 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3), port 69 getting from 192.168.0.3:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [octet] Error code 2: Access violation
12:09
permissions problem?
12:11
host kerr {
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hardware ethernet 00:50:fc:54:c4:8e;
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filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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server-name "kerr.robinson.ca";
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}
12:11
12:12
in dhcp.conf
12:13
that is the client portion
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<Gadi>
joeoshawa: you have a tftp problem - your dhcp configuration is irrelevant
12:14
<joeoshawa>
ok so what should i do
12:14
access violation sounds like a permission thing
12:15
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: try again without "sudo" in front
12:15
also remove /tmp/pxelinux.0 if it's there
12:16
so:
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sudo rm /tmp/pxelinux.0
12:16
cd /tmp
12:16
tftp 192.168.0.3 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
12:19
<joeoshawa>
did that before sudo just erased file did again still same
12:20
<alkisg>
OK, next: ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
12:20
What's the output? Paste it here. Without sudo.
12:23
<joeoshawa>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26742 2010-12-23 02:29 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
12:23
<alkisg>
(08:19:54 PM) joeoshawa: did that before sudo just erased file ==> do you mean that there was a file in /tmp/pxelinux.0?
12:23
If so, then tftp was successful...
12:24
<joeoshawa>
yeah it connects thats what i am tellng you but it violates the file is empty
12:24
<alkisg>
Hmmm....
12:24
grep OPTIONS /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
12:24
What does this return?
12:26
<joeoshawa>
TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure"
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<Gadi>
joeoshawa: ps -efw|grep tftp
12:28
<joeoshawa>
oe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
12:28
joe 22469 22060 0 13:28 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
12:29
<Gadi>
your tftp is still running out of inetd
12:29
<alkisg>
Heh nice one Gadi :) joeoshawa you didn't restart tftp...
12:29
<m4xx>
hmm, also broken on linux client on the server it self, perhaps it's nomachine's app that's broken
12:29
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: did you do: sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
12:29
<alkisg>
(07:02:27 PM) alkisg: sudo restart tftpd-hpa
12:29
<joeoshawa>
yes will again
12:30
<alkisg>
Hmmm better yet, `sudo start tftpd-hpa` since it's not running yet
12:32
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
12:32
start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
12:32
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: you will know if you are good if when you do "ps -efw|grep tftp", you get a line like:
12:32
root 31601 1 0 13:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 --secure /var/lib/tftpboot
12:33
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo restart tftpd-hpa
12:33
tftpd-hpa start/running
12:33
joe@robinson:/tmp$
12:33
oe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
12:33
joe 22481 22060 0 13:34 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
12:33
joe@robinson:/tmp$
12:34* Gadi thinks you never fixed you inetd.conf file
12:34
<joeoshawa>
i did it comes back empty
12:34
<Gadi>
does your inetd.conf file still have the tftp line?
12:34
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: try this:
12:34
sudo service openbsd-inetd stop
12:34
sudo stop tftpd-hpa
12:34
sudo start tftpd-hpa
12:34
ps -efw|grep tftp
12:35
<Gadi>
right
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<joeoshawa>
22518 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto tftp ORBIT_SOCKETDIR=/tmp/orbit-joe SSH_AGENT_PID=14429 TERM=xterm SHELL=/bin/bash XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=604795d1b2dab8b81868b30a00000008-1293043727.538397-114584177 WINDOWID=16777220 OLDPWD=/home/joe GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-x7rROD GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module USER=joe LS_COLORS=rs=0:di=01;34:ln=01;36:mh=00:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=3
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7;41:sg=30;43:ca=30;41:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.tlz=01;31:*.txz=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.lz=01;31:*.xz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*
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.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.svgz=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.flv=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xc
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f=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.cgm=01;35:*.emf=01;35:*.axv=01;35:*.anx=01;35:*.ogv=01;35:*.ogx=01;35:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36:*.axa=00;36:*.oga=00;36:*.spx=00;36:*.xspf=00;36: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-x7rROD/ssh DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/gnome.default.path SESSION_MANAGER=local/robinson.ca:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/14391,unix/r
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obinson.ca:/tmp/.ICE-unix/14391 USERNAME=joe XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-gnome:/etc/xdg DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome PATH=/home/joe/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games PWD=/tmp GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUT=us LANG=en_CA.utf8 GNOME_KEYRING_PID=14372 MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/gnome.mandatory.path GDM_LANG=en_CA.utf8 GDMSESSION=gnome SHLVL=1 HOME=/home/joe GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated LOGNA
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ME=joe XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/gnome:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-w2mgKNY403,guid=78fb21e656210dae59168f6a000006d6 LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s WINDOWPATH=7 DISPLAY=:0.0 LESSCLOSE=/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s XAUTHORITY=/var/run/gdm/auth-for-joe-FqOpRL/database COLORTERM=gnome-terminal _=/bin/grep
12:38
<m4xx>
ouch
12:42
<joeoshawa>
love the face looks like my server is telling me to kiss it you know where
12:44* Gadi thinks you made a typo
12:45
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo service openbsd-inetd stop
12:45
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo stop tftpd-hpa
12:45
tftpd-hpa stop/waiting
12:45
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
12:45
tftpd-hpa start/running
12:45
joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps efw|grep tftp
12:45
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: ps -efw|grep tftp
12:45
note the dash
12:45
<joeoshawa>
oops lol
12:46
joe 22540 22060 0 13:46 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
12:46
<Gadi>
try: sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
12:47
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
12:47
udp6 0 0 :::69 :::* 1793/xinetd
12:47
<alkisg>
Hehe
12:47
<Gadi>
xinetd!!!!!!!
12:47
<alkisg>
Much worse than we thought :D
12:48
<joeoshawa>
so what's the problem?
12:48
<Gadi>
joeoshawa: ls /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
12:49
joeoshawa: the problem is you had three different servers installed all dying to be a tftp server
12:49
joeoshawa: not sure how you managed that
12:49
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ ls /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
12:49
ls: cannot access /etc/xinetd.d/tftp: No such file or directory
12:50
<Gadi>
find /etc|grep xinetd
12:50* Gadi has no clue where xinetd is configured
12:50
<joeoshawa>
sudo apt-get remove xinetd?
12:50
<Gadi>
in fact - do you need xinetd for anything?
12:50
<joeoshawa>
not really
12:50
<Gadi>
better- sudo apt-get purge xinetd
12:51
once that is done, make sure you:
12:51
sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
12:51
sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
12:51
ps -efw|grep tftp
12:56
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
12:56
* Restarting internet superserver inetd [ OK ]
12:56
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo restart tftpd-hpa
12:56
tftpd-hpa start/running
12:56
joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
12:56
joe 22841 22060 0 13:57 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
12:56
joe@robinson:/tmp$
12:57
<Gadi>
sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
12:58
(perhaps xinetd is still running)
12:59
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
12:59
joe@robinson:/tmp$
12:59
lol i thought about that line and didn't realise you asked
13:00
<Gadi>
hmm... well, now tftp-hpa has no excuses
13:00
it should start
13:00* Gadi wonders why it is not
13:01
<joeoshawa>
wow
13:01
compicated
13:01
complicated
13:01
even
13:01
<Gadi>
not usually
13:02
and if you do: sudo start tftpd-hpa
13:02
<joeoshawa>
sujoe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
13:02
start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
13:03
<Gadi>
sudo stop tftpd-hpa
13:03
sudo start tftpd-hpa
13:03
ps -efw|grep tftp
13:04
<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo stop tftpd-hpa
13:04
tftpd-hpa stop/waiting
13:04
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo start tftpd-hpa
13:04
tftpd-hpa start/running
13:04
joe@robinson:/tmp$ ps -efw|grep tftp
13:04
joe 22855 22060 0 14:04 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
13:04
joe@robinson:/tmp$
13:04
remove and reinstall tftp?
13:05
<alkisg>
joeoshawa: try with service: sudo service tftpd-hpa restart
13:05
Then check netstat again, aand if it still fails check: tail /var/log/daemon.log
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<joeoshawa>
joe@robinson:/tmp$ sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
13:07
joe@robinson:/tmp$
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Dec 23 13:51:57 robinson xinetd[1793]: Exiting...
13:07
Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson tftpd[22776]: unknown option -?
13:07
Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22776) terminated with status 1
13:07
Dec 23 13:53:33 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
13:07
Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson tftpd[22839]: unknown option -?
13:07
Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22839) terminated with status 1
13:07
Dec 23 13:56:55 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
13:07
Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson tftpd[22853]: unknown option -?
13:07
Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process (22853) terminated with status 1
13:07
Dec 23 14:04:20 robinson init: tftpd-hpa main process ended, respawning
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<alkisg>
OK, the unknown option is the problem
13:08
Paste your /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa
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<alkisg>
/etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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(without s)
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<joeoshawa>
# /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
13:09
13:09
TFTP_USERNAME="tftp"
13:09
TFTP_DIRECTORY="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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TFTP_ADDRESS="0.0.0.0:69"
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TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure"
13:11
<alkisg>
Did you change any scripts in /etc/init?
13:11
(and particularly /etc/init/tftpd-hpa.conf ?)
13:12
<joeoshawa>
i don't believe so
13:12
<Gadi>
im gonna go with purging and reinstalling
13:12
:)
13:12
<alkisg>
Which ubuntu version is that?
13:12
<joeoshawa>
10.10
13:12
<alkisg>
I'll go with Gadi too :)
13:12
sudo apt-get purge tftpd-hpa
13:13
sudo apt-get install tftpd-hpa
13:15
<joeoshawa>
tftpd-hpa directory (/var/lib/tftpboot) already exists, doing nothing.
13:15
start: Job is already running: tftpd-hpa
13:15
could that be a problem
13:16
<alkisg>
And tail /var/log/daemon.log still complains about the invalid option?
13:16
<joeoshawa>
yep
13:16
<Gadi>
can you reboot the server?
13:17
<alkisg>
Ooooh windows tactics... :P
13:17
<Gadi>
might be the quickest way to keep from going mad
13:17
<joeoshawa>
yeah i am on it
13:17
brb
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<baiki>
@alkisg @ltspbot outstanding work! now i can login with newly created users. and it does not affect host system (maybe wrong terminology).
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<alkisg>
baiki: it does affect your server, it disables compiz
13:28
baiki: please mention your experience in the bug report so that it's solved
13:31
<baiki>
@ sorry for not beeing really master of english language. it works, wo/ affecting the server's X11 setup! just give me time to do all of this. my friend i am sitting in gambia for almost 8 years. guess what.... our internet connections really....
13:31
it does not affect my server.
13:31
just for the record
13:32
<alkisg>
It disables compiz for ALL users on the server
13:32
So if you login with some client on the server, you can't have compiz effects
13:32
The same for thin clients too
13:32
*if you login with some *user on the server...
13:34
vagrantc: care to comment on a new crazy idea? What if I changed a few scripts so that /opt/ltsp/i386 could be netbooted with NFS (rw) from a vbox client? This way teachers could customize their fat chroots by using a GUI, with only minor changes in the current code... any downsides?
13:36
<baiki>
@alkisg i don't need those fancy effects anyway. old-fashioned... i know. however, guess I have to follow up this bug report now and share my experience....
13:39
<alkisg>
baiki: also mention your graphics card, `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA`, and attach your ~/.xsession-errors (especially that line about power of 2 textures)
13:41
<baiki>
yes i will. still struggeling after login where to append my 5 cents....
13:42
<m4xx>
anyone use qtnx on ubuntu by any chance?
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: and you'd just make 127.0.0.1 writeable?
13:47
alkisg: only downside i'd see is if any clients are running simultaneously
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: i.e. one "teacher" has another session booted that they forgot about, which conflicts with the changes the currently running machine is writing
13:48
alkisg: or two teachers fighting over the same mount
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: ok we can assume that only one teacher will be using the rw moun t
13:52
and only one session...
13:52
OK I'll try it to see how it goes and I'll try to implement it with as few changes as possible
13:53
<vagrantc>
if there's any way you can safeguard against that, i think it would be worth doing :)
13:53
<m4xx>
or know of another nx client for linux other than the nomachine and qtnx
13:54
<vagrantc>
i didn't even know about qtnx
13:54
<m4xx>
it just freezes when i try to connect =\
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<alkisg>
One safeguard could be a lock in /var/somewhere, and an initscript that sets it, checks it, deletes it on shut down, and prompts the user if "the lock exists, if you're absolutely sure that noone else is booting rw from that disk, press y to delete it or n to reboot"
14:02
<vagrantc>
yeah, something like that seems reasonable
14:03
very early in the boot process
14:03
maybe in the initramfs, even
14:03
<alkisg>
And blocking
14:03
Right
14:06
Hmmm ipconfig in natty doesn't seem to work at all with my vbox client... :(
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<alkisg>
And IPAPPEND 3 doesn't work either (with the stock scripts, without LTSP)
14:10
<baiki>
@alkisg @ltspbot hope i did not make to many mistakes :-;
14:10
<alkisg>
baiki: ltspbot is a program, no need to refer to it
14:10
<baiki>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/673072
14:10
<alkisg>
It's a script that remembers stuff that we tell it to
14:11
<baiki>
ok. shame on me
14:11
<alkisg>
Nice, thanks for the feedback
14:16
<baiki>
man, i am grateful. my installation really works. and now into the details...
14:17
<knipwim>
are there any plans to version tag the ltsp-doc-trunk as well?
14:22
<alkisg>
Ugh rookie mistake, forgot "boot=nfs" in the kernel command line :D
14:27
<baiki>
@alkisg do you think some guys read this bug report?
14:27
<alkisg>
Some :)
14:27
It'd be best if it was forwarded upstream though :(
14:28
<baiki>
your're a fast typer...
14:28
can I???? do that?
14:28
<alkisg>
I don't have any clients that experience that problem so I can't report it
14:28
Sure
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<baiki>
@alkisg what do you think about ruby and to some extend ROR?
14:30
<alkisg>
Erm, nothing? :) I've never seen either...
14:31
<baiki>
ok
14:33
<alkisg>
baiki: that lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA, where was it executed? On the server, on a thin client session, or locally on a client?
14:34
<baiki>
@alkisg on the server (in this case an IBM laptop). what should I have delivered?
14:34
or mentioned?
14:34
<alkisg>
!localxterm
14:34
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
14:35
<alkisg>
Can you run it again, this time from a localxterm on the thin client that had the problem?
14:36
<baiki>
The TC didn't create this problem. i got as a donation 3 hp t3350 thin clients and another hp.
14:36
will run your code.
14:36
<alkisg>
Wait, where did you experience that problem? While logging in with new users on the server (==ibm laptop)?!
14:37
Or while logging in on some thin client?
14:37
<baiki>
thin client. not my laptop=server (not a VM).
14:38
<robehend1>
wooo. my primary dns is acting up. goood day
14:39
<alkisg>
baiki: so please run that command again on a localxterm on the thin client, the problem is with its graphics card driver
14:39
<vagrantc>
knipwim: i've wondered about that too
14:39
knipwim: versioning ltsp-docs
14:39
<baiki>
does it help if i tell that its an VIA S3?
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<knipwim>
vagrantc: don't know about the other distros
14:42
but on gentoo i could make a versioned package for the docs also
14:43
<vagrantc>
knipwim: well, in debian i've versioned it as 0.99+bzrNNN
14:43
so it does have a version, just not a tagged version
14:44
(and ubuntu's inherrited that
14:44
<knipwim>
i guess i could use the date of the release as version number
14:44
<vagrantc>
i just use the bzr revision
14:44
but dates work, too
14:45
<knipwim>
do you make release for each commit then?
14:45
<vagrantc>
effectively
14:45
well, no, i make a release when i make a release
14:45
<knipwim>
:)
14:45
<alkisg>
baiki: yes, but lspci is more accurate
14:46
I think the openchrome driver is the one that has the problem
14:46
<vagrantc>
knipwim: i.e. there may be a few commits skipped
14:46
<knipwim>
yes, when ltsp-trunk is version tagged, the docs can also be released for their highest commit
14:46
<baiki>
@alkisg sill surely do all of this. and i guess all from this hp t3350 thin client? ok?
14:47
<alkisg>
Right
14:47
<vagrantc>
knipwim: well, they're not always consistant
14:47
<baiki>
ok
14:47
<vagrantc>
knipwim: sometimes the docs don't include all changes relevent to a given ltsp-trunk
14:47
knipwim: and sometimes they'll only contain changes relevent to ldm, or ltspfs
14:47
<baiki>
tomorrow, now i chill :-) cheers
14:48
<knipwim>
i was planning to use it for the lts.conf manual for now
14:49
since the package for building the pdf isn't stable on gentoo at the moment
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<alkisg>
First step done - booted a natty non-ltsp chroot via rw nfs. On to an ltsp chroot...
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<mmarinb>
Good Night everybody
20:39
Hello, i have some problems with LTSP over Debian. My machines can't find the image.
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