IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 October 2017   (all times are UTC)

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05:30
<alkisg>
bennabiy: here?
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12:43
<bcg>
Is there a specific reason why LTSP (rhel branch anyway) uses old initd-scripts and not NetworkManager?
12:45
...initd-scripts for networking...
12:45
<ogra_>
the network setup is done from the initramfs during boot ... based on PXE data ... i doubt you can easily make NM work in initrd's yet unless you want to end up with a really big initrd
12:46
(beyond this , i think the fedora LTSP branches have been unmaintained for years now)
12:47
<bcg>
initramfs yes, dhclient is used there. but after that, especially on reboot init.d/network will be called to bring eth down.
12:47
<ogra_>
(and there has never been an actual RHEL one)
12:48
<bcg>
not official, but take a look at https://git.launchpad.net/~bcgss/ltsp/+git/ltsp-rhel7/
12:50
<ogra_>
ah, i didnt know about that branch ... better ask that person then :)
12:50
<bcg>
that would be me.
12:51
and I'm asking here why this design choice.
12:52
<alkisg>
bcg: in Debian/Ubuntu, we write "manual" in /etc/network/interfaces to prohibit ifupdown and network-manager from re-initializing the interface, thus breaking the connection
12:54
<bcg>
yes, but what about other network interfaces? not supported?
12:54
<alkisg>
network-manager can manage all other network interfaces as usual, we don't touch that part
12:54
E.g. if the ltsp client needs to access wifis or VPNs, it can do so
12:58
<bcg>
I see, it's only removed on thin client, not on fat.
12:59
(client/Debian/share/ltsp/init-ltsp.d/50-rm-system-services for example)
12:59
<alkisg>
Yes, just to save ram
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13:54
<bennabiy>
alkisg: here now
13:55
about to reinstall lab this morning, so I will be here and gone. let me know now if you need me for something
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14:20
<alkisg>
bennabiy: ah if you're reinstalling the problem will probably go away, no need to troubleshoot it :)
14:21
<bennabiy>
We will see :)
14:21
alkisg: thank you for getting back to me
14:22
alkisg: has there been any response to the bounty efforts at all?
14:22
I saw the note you put out on the developer list
14:23
<alkisg>
bennabiy: I didn't upload it yet, I'm checking some things in bountysource.com to see if it's ok as a hosting platform
14:23
I'll probably create a repository, like the greek schools ppa, with updated versions, and allow access to it to the sponsors...
14:24
So that people have some reason to donate
14:25
<bennabiy>
ah
14:30
ok, so I am going offline now
14:31
back later!
14:31* bennabiy waves
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14:38
<neops>
hello
14:44
<alkisg>
Hi neops
14:48
neops: did you manage to troubleshoot the issues?
14:49
<neops>
not yet
14:50
<alkisg>
!vnc-edide
14:50
<ltsp`>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
14:50
<alkisg>
neops: ^
14:51
<neops>
I can not do port redirection (I'm not home)
14:51
<alkisg>
No need for any redirection
14:51
<neops>
I think this is mandatory for vnc
14:51
ok alkisg
14:51
<alkisg>
It's not
14:51
It's reverse vnc
14:51
<neops>
ok
14:51
ok
14:52
I want to install right away
14:53
apt-get install tightvncserve
14:53
<alkisg>
neops: no
14:53
Please read
14:53
(05:50:02 μμ) ltsp`: vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
14:53
Just open epoptes
14:53
Don't install anything
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<neops>
I am not at home I have to give epotes (one minute
15:12
I think I'll have to postpone (sorry)
15:13
I am not at home ..problem of cnx
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18:21
<bennabiy>
alkisg: have you done zfs for a root filesystem in 16.04 yet?
18:21
<alkisg>
bennabiy: never used zfs, no
18:22
<bennabiy>
alkisg: ok
18:24
<smetzger>
If anyone is remotely curious, doing a remote SSHFS homedir doesn't work very well.
18:24
(not that this is an unexpected outcome)
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18:25
<alkisg>
mmetzger: how so? 1000+ schools here work like that for years
18:25
<mmetzger>
alkisg: How remote?
18:25
<alkisg>
LAN
18:25
You mean over ADSL?
18:25
<mmetzger>
Not ADSL, but WAN.
18:26
<alkisg>
Eh, sure, latency is a big issue there if you don't use aggressive caching, even on writes...
18:28
<mmetzger>
This is completely as expected - just was curious how bad it would be.
18:28
And honestly some stuff works reasonably well - firefox is not among said stuff.
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18:52
<altsp>
help
18:52
on installing ltsp on 16.04
18:52
anyone has done that?
18:52
<bennabiy>
!ask | altsp
18:52
<ltsp`>
Error: "altsp" is not a valid command.
18:52
<vagrantc>
!ask | echo altsp
18:52
<ltsp`>
altsp ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
18:53
<bennabiy>
altsp: simply state what you have tried, and where you are at. Ubuntu 16.04 works very well for ltsp
19:07
<altsp>
Ok let me rephrase. I have a computer with one ehternet and one wifi. Installation of Ltsp with the 14.04 "alternte iso" worked like a charm. I've tried on 16.04 but without success. I have read it is because 16.04 needs a workaround. I need step by step instruction for this kind of computer.
19:42
<alkisg>
!ltsp-manager | echo altsp:
19:42
<ltsp`>
altsp: ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
19:43
<alkisg>
altsp: follow those instructions ^
19:45
<altsp>
ok, that is something new to me. Need some readng and then I will try it. Thank you alkisg.
19:47
<alkisg>
np
19:48
<altsp>
In the meantime, anyone has a bash script?
20:05
<alkisg>
altsp: for what?
20:06
A bash script to do what?
20:07
ltsp has a looot of bash scripts ;)
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20:41
<altsp>
Well, thank you for the help, It was worth waiting for the reply. bye.
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21:49
<bennabiy>
Is there any support for arch based LTSP?
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<vagrantc>
none that i'm aware of ... though it shouldn't be difficult with ltsp-pnp-style installations
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