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Channel log from 14 June 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<gymeleou>
!buttons_location
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<ltspbot>
gymeleou: Error: "buttons_location" is not a valid command.
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<gymeleou>
!buttons_layout
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<ltspbot>
gymeleou: Error: "buttons_layout" is not a valid command.
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<gymeleou>
!button_layout
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<ltspbot>
gymeleou: "button_layout" :: To revert the Ubuntu button position and ordering to their old values, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout menu:minimize,maximize,close
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<abeehc>
!ltsp.conf
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<ltspbot>
abeehc: Error: "ltsp.conf" is not a valid command.
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<abeehc>
!parameters
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<ltspbot>
abeehc: Error: "parameters" is not a valid command.
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<dobber>
!lts.conf
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<ltspbot>
dobber: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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<rickogden>
hi all, what do I put in lts.conf to make gnome the default session?
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<abeehc>
ty
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<rickogden>
does anyone know why I would get the error "failed to connect to NBD server" when I set NBD_SWAP to false in the lts.conf?
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<alkisg>
NBD_SWAP is false by default
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So it shouldn't matter if you set it to false..
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<rickogden>
alkisg: hi, I'm trying to get round the problem of needing to break on boot
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<alkisg>
Ah. This does have nothing to do with swapping
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NBD serves the virtual client hard disk, /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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<rickogden>
ah right
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<alkisg>
Here's a bug that I filed for nbd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/420587
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This is _not_ your problem, but it's the same problem on another script (ltsp_nbd instead of just nbd)
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<rickogden>
ah right
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<alkisg>
So file a bug in launchpad about this. To work around it, insert a delay in ltsp_nbd
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<rickogden>
is there any work-around that you suggest (such as sleep for a few seconds)?
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where's ltsp_nbd, in the client chroot or on the server?
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<alkisg>
The client chroot
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you need to update the kernel afterwards - not the image
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(chroot update-initramfs -u && ltsp-update-kernels)
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<rickogden>
thanks
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<alkisg>
File the bug there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd
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<rickogden>
where should I put the delay?
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<alkisg>
After this line: ip link set lo up
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put `sleep 5 ` there...
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What are your client specs? So that I try to get my hands on a similar client to reproduce this...
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<rickogden>
erm... one sec, they're new computers, I'll get the details
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3ghz core2duo, 4gb RAM
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<garymc>
hi guys im trying to add a new user account in the terminal window. I have forgot the command
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sudo add user?
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doesnt work
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<rickogden>
sudo adduser
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<garymc>
that dont work either
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<rickogden>
does useradd work?
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<garymc>
no
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:(
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<alkisg>
garymc: distro/version?
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<garymc>
i know its a simple command. just forgot
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Im ubunto
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<rickogden>
how is it authenticating? Using /etc/passwd?
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or an external system (eg. LDAP)?
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<garymc>
i know its just add user or something like that
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<alkisg>
garymc: try `sudo adduser`. It should work.
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<klausade>
garymc: what is the error message when you try adduser?
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<alkisg>
If not, paste the error message on pastebin.
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(sudo adduser username - don't forget the username)
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<rickogden>
garymc: adduser is the interactive way of adding users in ubuntu
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<garymc>
damn i forgot to add the name after sudo adduser JOHN
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whoops.... thanks guys
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<rickogden>
:)
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<rickogden>
is this guide valid for Lucid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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<alkisg>
Localdev should work out of the box on any recent ubuntu versions
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<rickogden>
ah ok... doesn't seem to be with my weird setup :/
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I'm working through the debug
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<alkisg>
LOCALDEV is true by default, and all the ltspfs* software is preinstalled
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I think also in lucid it isn't even necessary to add the clients to the fuse group
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What are you trying with? A usb stick? An internal disk?
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<rickogden>
both
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and neither are mounted
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<alkisg>
Internal disks need another parameter which isn't enabled by default
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LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS=False
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<rickogden>
the entry is in the ltspfs_fstab
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I'm not too bothered about the local disk (for the moment)
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just pen drive
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<alkisg>
What file system does it have?
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<rickogden>
fat32
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and it's correct in the ltspfs_fstab file
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alkisg: where does it mount to by default?
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<alkisg>
There are some (a little oudated) localdev debugging steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev - but I don't know about any details as I don't usually use localdevs...
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<rickogden>
alkisg, yeah I've worked my way through them
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I'm just about to do step 4
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but the others are all perfect
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however /var/run/drives/usbdsik-sdb1/ (which is where it says the mountpoint is), is empty... so I'm not sure what's happening there
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<klausade>
rickogden: I recently had a fight with ltspfs (mounting usb-drives), turned out that my users wasn't properly added to the fuse group when they logged on. Make sure that "id username" mentions group membership in fuse. Worth a try.
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<rickogden>
klausade: yeah, they are
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however, doing step 4 it has come up with NXFOLDER is (null) and NX_ROOT is (null)
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not sure why it's coming up with the NX stuff
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<leifnel>
Hi. I have a "normal" ltsp, where pxelinux.cfg/default is kernel ltsp/i386/vmlinuz ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs
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This gets its root from /opt/ltsp/i386
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Then I have made a kiosk, which is in /opt/ltsp/kiosk/i386
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<leifnel>
How Do I add this to the option line in pxelinux.cfg/default?
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<Appiah>
what option?
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just edit the current one?
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<leifnel>
to get root from /opt/ltsp/kiosk/i386 instead of /opt/ltsp/i386
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<Appiah>
thats in the dhcp option
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<leifnel>
root=/dev/nfs doesn't tell that it's /opt/ltsp/i386, but that what it gets root from.
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<leifnel>
so it must be default
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<Appiah>
"next-server" if you are using a *nix dhcp server
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dhcpd.conf
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ops wait
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not next server
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<Appiah>
option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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thats what the line looks like
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edit that one
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<leifnel>
But I like it in pxelinux.cfg/options, so I can select different ways, kiosk, normal, install etc
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<Appiah>
so you want a boot menu? :)
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<leifnel>
I have one, yes.
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http://pastebin.com/qvA4Hwkr
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It must be possible to put root-path in boot menu
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<Appiah>
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
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nfsroot= [NFS] nfs root filesystem for disk-less boxes. See Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt.
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http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt
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<leifnel>
Trying that now. (Love vmware emulation)
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Kiosk got started now, but I also edited dhcpd.conf. Trying to put it back
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Yup. Works perfectly now. Thanx :-)
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<leifnel>
I'm back :-) If I want different startpages for different kiosks, how do I do that without having a complete root for each kiosk?
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Oh well, like Scarlet O'Hara: I'll think about that tomorrow :-)
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bye
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<bieb>
hello ltsp'ers
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<Guest70438>
hi could someone point me in the right direction, what i want to do is be able to vnc onto a diskless client
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hello
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<johnny>
this isn't a good time for this channel
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best times are during business hours of western europe /usa
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i'm here, but i don't feel like googling the answer
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i don't know it myself
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<Guest70438>
k thanks, by the way i have tried googling it and havent been successfully obviously :) this is y I am here asking the question.
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<johnny>
Guest70438, then either come back in 12 hours, or post to the discuss list
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<Guest70438>
k thanks Johnny will do
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appreciate your help
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<cyberorg>
Guest70438, italc is what you need