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Channel log from 18 February 2016   (all times are UTC)

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10:57
<alkisg>
!precise
10:57
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'precise', but I do know about these similar topics: 'precise-i386'
10:57
<alkisg>
!precise-i386
10:57
<ltsp>
precise-i386: Ubuntu 12.04 compressed btrfs chroot to boot really old clients (non-pae, <80MB RAM): http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img. Screenshot: http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.png
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16:47
<vagrantc>
hrm. wiki.ltsp.org seems down...
16:47
<maldridge>
I concur, it appears down from here as well
16:56
<alkisg>
...should I put a cron job to reboot it at every midnight? :D
16:57* maldridge has done that to deal with a buggy print server
16:58
<alkisg>
27 days uptime, yup, time for reboot..
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17:00
<alkisg>
OK, server+apache is up again
17:06
<maldridge>
it has to reboot to get a functional webserver? what's it running, windows nt?
17:11
<vagrantc>
it should be running LTSP
17:12
<alkisg>
No, restarting apache is enough, but I think it's good to reboot it after a month of uptime, there are always memory leaks in programs etc
17:12
It's running ubuntu 10.04
17:12
<maldridge>
I could see that
17:13* vagrantc blinks
17:17
<alkisg>
sbalneav: ...should I try to update it before 12.04 gets EOLed and we don't have an upgrade path at all? :)
17:17
10.04 => 12.04 => 14.04 should be a good update for now...
17:18
<vagrantc>
what could possibly go wrong
17:18
<alkisg>
Hmm /boot is empty though, I'm guessing the hosting company is using something like lxc, so better not just upgrade it...
17:18
At least not without a VM snapshot (or whatever else they use)
17:19
$ uname -a
17:19
Linux server 2.6.32-042stab108.5 #1 SMP Wed Jun 17 20:20:17 MSK 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux
17:19
2.6.32 on 2015, fun...
17:20
$ ls -ld /lib/$(uname -r)
17:20
ls: cannot access /lib/2.6.32-042stab108.5: No such file or directory
17:20
Meh, nope, I don't want anything to do with this upgrade :)
17:20
<vagrantc>
kernel is probably all built-ins
17:26
<sbalneav>
lol "what could possibly go wrong": Every sysadmin ever. 10 minutes later: "cr*p"
17:27
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: i've been a little slow testing libpam-sshauth ... i *think* it's basically doing it's job, but the code that hooks into display managers may need updating and/or rewriting
17:27
<sbalneav>
ok
17:27
Ping me for anything you need.
17:28
<vagrantc>
help setting up the simplest test case woudl be useful
17:28
since the display manager brings all sorts of mess into the equation
17:28
i think alkisg wanted to use it for tty logins
17:28
<sbalneav>
hm, ok. I'll have to set up a server.
17:29
<alkisg>
Yup it would make it possible to make some thin clients run their session in beefy fat clients instead of the server
17:30* vagrantc wonders how hard it would be to write unit tests for libpam-sshauth
17:30
<vagrantc>
build-depends: openssh-server
17:30
<sbalneav>
Prolly not too hard.
17:30
<vagrantc>
hah
18:04
<alkisg>
vagrantc: in a few days ubuntu will drop software-center in favor of gnome-software, which takes its data from appdata.xml
18:05
We'll need to put appdata.xml files in ltsp, ldm and epoptes
18:05
If we do that within 20 days or so, they'll even make it to 16.04
18:05
https://freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-Quickstart.html
18:06
I didn't yet manage to tell distutilsextra to pull the translatable strings from appdata.xml though...
18:16
<vagrantc>
oh boy, a new format to support!
18:16
<alkisg>
That one is cross-distro, sounds like a good thing
18:16
<vagrantc>
sure
18:16
<alkisg>
I'd prefer it if it was a webservice instead, but it's not that bad
18:16
<vagrantc>
as long as it doesn't change every 6 months
18:24* alkisg wonders if debian/control will get updated to not require a description in the future...
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20:33
<vagrantc>
ugh.
20:34
debian jessie seems to be having the "stalling on network interfaces" issue now...
20:51
sbalneav: well, the new libpam-sshauth works fine with jessie + lightdm ... gdm3 is borked in all manner of strange ways
20:51
but i don't get the impression that libpam-sshauth is the problem
20:53
ah, the ltsp-pam scripts are writing to /etc/pam.d/gdm3, but it reads /etc/pam.d/gdm-*
20:55
appears to be getting hung up in all sorts of policykit madness
20:57
seems to work fine for login
21:30
when i said login, i meant /etc/pam.d/login
21:30
but stretch is apparently more finicky.
21:30
though i half got it working
21:34
although an interesting side-effect was that root logins didn't require (or even ask for a password)
21:34
eeyk.
21:43
sbalneav: i think i'll just tag it as 0.4.1 and upload, unless you've any objections?
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: alright, uploading away, can always fix later...
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