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Channel log from 15 September 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<johnny>
somebody else came in here with that i think
00:00
hopefully it will be fixed soon
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00:08
<deblen>
johnny:is it bug?
00:10
<johnny>
i think so..
00:10
i don't use debian, so i'm not sure
00:10
but i know somebody else had the same problem
00:10
come back later when some of debian folks may be about
00:12
<deblen>
johnny, ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror=http://ftp.se.debian.org/ lenny main
00:12
/usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client: unrecognized option `--extra-mirror=http://ftp.se.debian.org/'
00:12
LTSP Build Client usage:
00:13
what is error in this command?
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00:14
<deblen>
cyberorg, how to use ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror command for debian lenny??
00:15
<cyberorg>
deblen, see here http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
00:16
<deblen>
cyberorg, i am missing something..i am referring same link
00:16
<johnny>
deblen, i don't use debain
00:16
<cyberorg>
deblen, usage is under "5. When building a chroot, you'll need to tell it to use the backport sources: "
00:16
<deblen>
cyberorg, #ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror http://ftp.se.debian.org/ lenny main
00:16
/usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client: unrecognized option `--extra-mirror'
00:16
<johnny>
but you can try ltsp-build-client --help
00:21
<deblen>
johnny, cyberorg ..like ltsp4.2 can i get ltsp-utils5.0 from net. i dont want to follow debian method ..i like configure using ltspadmin command
00:22
<johnny>
no.. there is no ltsp-utils that works
00:22
with ltsp 5
00:22
it's distro agnostic now..
00:23
<cyberorg>
deblen, not for debian, for suse we have something similar that configures all the required services/config files
00:23
<deblen>
johnny, it means new ltsp5.0 is common to all it is differant for differant distro..
00:23
<cyberorg>
on ubuntu and debian there is not much to do as things work almost out of box
00:24
<deblen>
cyberorg, ltsp4.2 was quite good just 1 command to configure i.e ltspadmin
00:26* cyberorg pump ups the volume on johnny's TC
00:27
<johnny>
i can't even get it to work on my own computer :)
00:27
i tried
00:27
no audio there either, can't figure out how to see my sink
00:27
i just see null output
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00:51
<deblen>
johnny, who can help me regards debian?
00:51
<johnny>
vagrantc
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02:28
<deblen>
johnny,cyberorg,when client is trying to use tftp then server syslog getting message tftp:client does not accept options
02:28
<cyberorg>
deblen, ignore those
02:28
<deblen>
client is not getting kernel to boot from server
02:28
couldnot find kernel
02:29
image linux
02:29
<cyberorg>
deblen, you'll have to wait for vagrantc to come online :)
02:29
<deblen>
cyberorg, even i am manually giving path of kernel then also same error as couldnot find kernel image
02:29
<lejo>
deblen: are the files available in the tftp server directory?
02:30
<deblen>
lejo,yes
02:30
<lejo>
e.g /tftpboot/kernel-image
02:30
deblen: are the permissions ok?
02:30
<deblen>
lejo : i changed all permission to nobody
02:30
as owner
02:30
<cyberorg>
hi lejo :)
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02:31
<deblen>
lejo:what permission require?
02:33
<lejo>
heyhey cyberorg
02:33
deblen: just make sure the tftp server proc can read the files
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<deblen>
lejo :how to make sure?
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<amol1>
cyberorg,where can i get source sode of ltsp5?
05:58
codde
06:04
<cyberorg>
bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp-trunk
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06:14
<amol1>
cyberorg, what is ltspfs-trunk and mkdst-trunk?
06:14
<cyberorg>
amol1, other components of ltsp
06:15
<amol1>
cyberorg, is it require to install on server with above given bazar linked code?
06:16
<ogra>
amol1, mkdst is what we use to roll tarballs for distro packages
06:16
amol1, you also want ldm-trunk and probably ltspfs
06:16
<cyberorg>
amol1, you would need to understand what part is installed where otherwise you can completely damage your server
06:17
like installing client stuff on the server by mistake
06:17
hi ogra
06:17
<amol1>
cyberorg, ogra please guide me to configure LTSP from source on BOSS
06:18
cyberorg, what source i have to install and first on server?
06:18
<ogra>
amol1, for that you better use the debian packges and check whats missing
06:18
the plain source doesnt help you without the packaging
06:18
<cyberorg>
amol1, you'd need vagrantc's help there, he is debian maintainer
06:19
<amol1>
ogra, i used debian lenny packages but it is giving error as ltsp_chroot: No such file or directory
06:20
<ogra>
amol1, you didnt use the debian lenny packages, you used the BOSS packages, no ?
06:20
leany would create the file
06:20
<amol1>
cyberorg, ogra :today i newly installed boss and installed ltsp related packages from lenny
06:21
cyberorg, ogra still getting same problem of ltsp_chroot
06:22
cyberorg, ogra :for ltsp4.2 on clent side TFTP Prefix is showing but only it is not able to find kernel
06:22
client
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<amol1>
TFTP Prefix is /ltsp/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/
06:24
<cyberorg>
amol1, wait for vagrantc
06:24
<ogra>
ltsp_chroot requires a proper lsb_release setup pounting to debian as distro
06:24
<amol1>
cyberorg, ogra :in ltsp4.2 if i can able to get kernel at client then almost LTSP will work at client side
06:24
<ogra>
amol1, nobody can help here with 4.2 ... its to old
06:24
wait for sbalneav to show up, he probably can (though i'm not sure he likes to)
06:27
<amol1>
sbalneav:hi
06:27
<ogra>
amol1, he is on a US timezone, that will likely take some hours
06:27
<stgraber>
amol1: don't expect an answer before 2 or 3 hours :)
06:27
<ogra>
hey stgraber :)
06:28
<stgraber>
hey ogra
06:28
<amol1>
ogra, if you help me for 4.2 i will be happy to work with LTSP
06:28
<ogra>
amol1, i cant ... i dont know much about 4.x ... its 3 years old, nobody touched t since
06:30
<amol1>
ogra, but it is working on BOSS only problem is towards client kernel getting'
06:30
<ogra>
amol1, i dont *want* to work on 4.x
06:33
(its a pain)
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<amol1>
ogra: i want only one help i.e. why not image is getting detected for client..any how it is up to all helping for 4.2 or not but for me on boss only 4.2 getting worked somewhat as compare to 5.0
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<snaphappi>
hi all, I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 8.04.1 ltsp install. it's the "ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device" bug, with the Marvell/Sky2 eth controller. if I put in a 2nd Realtek PCI eth controller, the client boots fine. but I can't get the client to PXEboot from the Realtek. can anyone here help?
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08:23
<cyberorg>
snaphappi, you may need to build the initrd with sky2 driver
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08:37
<jammcq>
g'morning friends
08:38
<rjune>
howdy jammcq
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<cyberorg>
hi jammcq
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09:06
<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:08
<Gadi>
!s
09:09
<ltspbot>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:09
<Gadi>
rjune: !!
09:09
et al
09:09
<rjune>
Gadi!
09:10
<Gadi>
rjune: can I borrow a couple o bucks - I want to buy Lehman Brothers - lol
09:10
<rjune>
I can spare ya a fiver
09:10
<Gadi>
couldn't resist - good morinin
09:10
that ought to cover it
09:10
<sbalneav>
I think I got fiddy cents
09:10
<Gadi>
:)
09:10
<sbalneav>
I'll chip in.
09:10
<Gadi>
cool - LTSP bails out the universe
09:11
we're gonna be wishing that supercollider really did suck the world into a black hole
09:11
:)
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09:12
<cyberorg>
Gadi, it already did, just not in our dimension ;)
09:14
<sbalneav>
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
09:14
<ogra>
pfft
09:14
it will only be able to in 6 months or so anyway
09:15
<Gadi>
wait - your 6 months or my 6 months
09:15
or is that 6 months as seen from a train
09:15
<ogra>
the supercollider's 6 :)
09:15
<sbalneav>
It will never be able to. Particles with higer TeV's have been observed in nature than the LHC will ever be able to produce.
09:15
<Gadi>
ah - which is like 6 million years in relativistic terms
09:17
<ogra>
Gadi, well, thats totally relative :)
09:17
<sbalneav>
I lay awake worrying about a lot of things at night, but the LHC's not one of 'em
09:17
<rjune>
Gadi: jew's have a different six months then the rest of the world?
09:17
<sbalneav>
For a scary read:
09:17
<Gadi>
rjune: only when we ride trains
09:17
<ogra>
backwards :)
09:17
<sbalneav>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-energy_cosmic_ray
09:17
<rjune>
sbalneav: can that make me into mr fantastic?
09:17
<sbalneav>
A proton (!) hit the earth with the engery of a baseball travelling at 55 mph
09:18
It was like 10^20 electron volts, or the like.
09:18
<rjune>
yeah
09:18
I saw taht.
09:18
<jammcq>
it's not the volts that'll kill ya.... it's the Amps
09:18
<Gadi>
yeah - just watch that you don't step in a puddle
09:19* ogra sighs about hal-input
09:20
<Gadi>
does anyone know if you can have one unionfs inside another?
09:20
<ogra>
why inside ?
09:20
<Gadi>
ie, ((fs1+fs2) + fs3)
09:21
<ogra>
you can just crete a three way union
09:21
<Gadi>
I want to mount (fs1+fs2) to one directory
09:21
<ogra>
easier than stacking them
09:21
<Gadi>
and then union that to another mountpoint
09:21
<ogra>
and dont use unionfs
09:21
its obsolete
09:21
<Gadi>
so that I can take a squashfs snapshot of the smaller union
09:21
<ogra>
aufs is what you want nowadays
09:22
<Gadi>
ogra: I don't come into your office and tell you what coffee to drink :)
09:22
<ogra>
well, unionfs will valsh from the kernel packages soon
09:22
<Gadi>
some of us have existing dev platforms that don't change every 6 mos
09:22
<ogra>
*vanish
09:22
.oO(what am i typing today)
09:22
<Gadi>
heh
09:22
<ogra>
hardy ships aufs
09:22
use it :)
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09:23
<ogra>
at least for scripts etc :)
09:23
<Gadi>
when I get to the point where hardy is stable enough for me...
09:23
ouch
09:23
:)
09:23
<ogra>
pfft
09:23
btw, what about your cleanup on login script ?
09:23
is that stable enough to put it into a SRU =
09:23
<Gadi>
?
09:23
<ogra>
?
09:24
<Gadi>
catch me up
09:24
<ogra>
that excessive pkill thingie
09:24
<Gadi>
I wasn't in on the beginning of our conversation
09:24
oh
09:24
should be
09:24
it's not even on by default
09:24
<ogra>
i think my users would like to see it in hardy ... there is a loud and long thread about hanging apps again
09:24
<Gadi>
you need to enable it in lts.conf
09:25
<ogra>
thats fine
09:25
<Gadi>
so, might as well throw it in
09:25
and get people testing it
09:25
<ogra>
as long as they dont install third party crap that perists forever in their package DB
09:25
<Gadi>
btw: bug in elographics driver in hardy
09:25
<ogra>
yes, saw that
09:25
bug me about it again before 8.04.2
09:26
so we have it on the updated CD
09:26
<Gadi>
ok - well the driver has a bug report
09:26
hopefully they'll fix it
09:26
<ogra>
did you SRU it ?
09:26
<Gadi>
the line in configure-x.sh I already removed
09:26
<ogra>
(propose for hardy and subscribe ubuntu-sru)
09:26
<Gadi>
hmm..
09:26
lemme see
09:26
<ogra>
do that, so they'll have it on their radar
09:27
feel free to sub. me as well so i dont forget about it
09:27
sadly i'm totally sucked in by ubuntu-mobile atm
09:27
need to get a working image for touchscreen netbooks :/
09:28
and the silly hal-input keymapping for special keys simply doesnt do what i want
09:28
<jammcq>
has everybody made their travel arrangements for BTS ?
09:29
<Gadi>
not yet - but JetBlue has a neat deal
09:29
if you book this week
09:29
<jammcq>
well
09:29
<Gadi>
so, I will be trying to get that done
09:29
<jammcq>
hmm, Gadi booking early?
09:30
<ogra>
Gadi, oh, btw, did you develop/test your volume patch on ubuntu ?
09:30
i fear you get a lot of races with that
09:30
depending on the HW
09:31
since the 80% hardcoded volume for all devices is set by udev ... and that depends on the speed of the HW and when it registers the device
09:31
<Gadi>
ogra: on gutsy it works fine
09:31
<ogra>
did you test that on hardy?
09:31
i dont care about gutsy
09:31
<Gadi>
no - but I run it in an init.d script (well after udev)
09:31
<ogra>
i refuse to keep two released distros up to date
09:32
that has nothing to do with "before/after" initscripts
09:32
udev adds the device if it finds the time to ... independently of the initscript
09:33
gutsy didnt even have the handling in udev
09:33
our alsa upstream guy only added that in hardy afaik
09:33
<Gadi>
well, then having pulseaudio in an init script is also a race condition ;)
09:33
because it also depends on udev loading the sound driver
09:33
er, you know what I mean
09:33
<ogra>
indeed
09:33
<Gadi>
I don't think it is a problem
09:34
<ogra>
and we have probs with that on very fast clients
09:34
<Gadi>
really?
09:34
wow
09:34
<ogra>
stgraber opened a bug about it a while ago
09:34
yours adds a second stop gap
09:34
<Gadi>
woo hoo!
09:35
<ogra>
ideally we could just modify the hardcoded values ...
09:35
but that would brea the ubuntu desktop setup
09:35
(which assumes that the values are only used on first boot ever for which 80% hardcoded are fine)
09:36
from the alsa POV a thin client is never booted more than once though ...
09:36
since its always a virgin install for it
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09:37
<Gadi>
the day my thin clients lose their virginity....
09:37
<ogra>
heh
09:37
<Gadi>
it better not be to a fat client
09:37
<Nubae>
lol
09:37
<Gadi>
not that there's anything wrong with that
09:37
<laga_>
i heard someone say they needed to "deflower" their wiki. it was a mediawiki and that comes with a flower in the logo ;)
09:38
<ogra>
heh
09:38
<Gadi>
well, we are starting to have a lot of systems that don't act sequentially
09:38
but, they should all have "depends" mecahnisms
09:39
I am sure we can find the right place for it
09:39
<laga_>
upstart? :)
09:39
<Gadi>
a perfect example
09:39
<laga_>
if that *ever* gets deployed
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<ogra>
laga_, its used any deployed since over a year
09:40
feel free to port the initscripts :)
09:40
<laga_>
ogra: i know. but nothing really uses all the awesome stuff it can do
09:41
which is a shame
09:41
<ogra>
mobile does
09:41
all over the place
09:41
<laga_>
and AFAIk there are some changes which need to happen
09:41
oooh.
09:41
<ogra>
since its so much faster
09:41
<laga_>
where can i get that? :)
09:41
much faster? got numbers?
09:41
<ogra>
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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<sbalneav>
ogra: You know, I just had a thought as I was walking into work this morning.
09:53
Unusual, me thinking.
09:54
But...
09:54
I've been taking this for granted, and "just doing it", but I wonder if other people are running into this, and this is the cause of the "ltsp sux" stuff:
09:54
Is trackerd running for all the clients as they log in?
09:55
<ogra>
no
09:55
it has to be switched on explicitly
09:55
<sbalneav>
OK, I uninstall it as a matter of courese
09:55
<ogra>
there is a gconf key for that
09:55
<sbalneav>
ok
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<ogra>
that defaults to false sinc eteh last trackerd desaster :)
09:56
<laga_>
*shiver*
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09:58
<amol1>
sbalneav,hi
09:59
sbalneav, i am trying to configure ltsp in debain based distro
09:59
sbalneav, i am getting error as Invalid Release file, no valid components
10:02
<Nubae>
amol1: use ltsp 5
10:02
<amol1>
Nubae, yes i am using ltsp5
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10:03
<Ryan52>
amol1, are you using your own mirror? or an official one?
10:03
<amol1>
Nubae, i am using BOSS for what ltsp still not yet configured
10:04
Ryan52,i am using packages.bosslinux.in
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10:04
<amol1>
official
10:04
<Nubae>
are you sure the boss packages are the official ltsp debian packages?
10:04
<Ryan52>
you need to use debian...
10:05
<amol1>
Nubae, i have taken ltsp packages from debian lenny
10:05
<Nubae>
boss is sorta debian with localisation for India
10:05
so where are u getting that error then?
10:05
<sbalneav>
amol1: If you've got things set up correctly with your package manager, apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone should install ltsp5
10:06
if it doesn't, then you've got problems with your repos.
10:06
<Nubae>
if the boss packages have the correct ltsp versions
10:06
<amol1>
sbalneav,ltsp5 got installed properly
10:06
<Ryan52>
amol1, you need to tell it to use the different componenets and dists. are you doing that?
10:07
<amol1>
Ryan52, after installing ltsp from debian lenny pool i hace changed some files /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client
10:08
which solved some problems .i.e. not connecting to debian connecting to bosslinux.in
10:09
<sbalneav>
amol1: ok, so if it installed correctly, you should be able to do a ltsp-build-client
10:09
<cyberorg>
amol1, cp -r /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/Debian /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/`lsb_release -i -s`
10:10
that might fix one issue at least
10:11
<amol1>
cyberorg, that also i did
10:11
cyberorg, so i solved ltsp_chroot related problem but not getting release related prob
10:12
<cyberorg>
amol1, ok, have patience wait for vagrantc ;)
10:12
<Nubae>
amol1: sounds like you're close though ;-)
10:13
<amol1>
Nubae, thanks to you all if it works then i can make proper document for LTSP on BOSS
10:13
<Ryan52>
amol1, can you add an echo somewhere (where it calls debootstrap) in ltsp-build-client to see the debootstrap command that it's actually running?
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<amol1>
Ryan52,can you paste ltsp-build-clientso that same i can use and test
10:16
<Ryan52>
just use the one in /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client
10:17
<amol1>
Ryan52, it is echoing properly..
10:18
Ryan52, i got echo output on display
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<amol1>
Ryan52, how it is checking release file which is on server to system
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<Ryan52>
amol1, you should wait for vagrantc :P
10:31
<amol1>
Ryan52, when he usually joins?
10:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
g'morning all
10:36
<amol1>
_UsUrPeR_, gud morning
10:37* _UsUrPeR_ is installing Fedora core 10-alpha and Intrepid Ibex alpha now.
10:38
<_UsUrPeR_>
gotta get a head start on LTSP support :P
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10:41
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, dont expect to much from the ibex yet ... i didnt have much time to shake out all the bugs ... and we swithed the whole X input model to hal
10:42
amol1, did you ask the BOSS devs for updating the packages as vagrantc asked you ?
10:42
having a doc is noce bot will leave all the other BOSS users that use the ancient ltsp5 version BOSS shps stand in the rain
10:42
*ships
10:43
they should really upgrade from the 6 month old lenny packages
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10:43
<Gadi>
so, it appears that you cannot do ((f1+f2) + f3) with unionfs, but you can have two separate mounts with: (f1+f2) and (f1+f2+f3) at the same time
10:43
not that anyone here cares much
10:44
:)
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<amol1>
ogra, i not contacted to boss developer to change but after doing all changes if it works i will suggest them what to change and where to change
10:44
<ogra>
Gadi, i still dont get why you dont just create a three way union
10:44
<Gadi>
I use unionfs to push out updates
10:44
of my embedded OS
10:44
<ogra>
amol1, that will still leave out all the fixes vagrantc added over tim e in debian
10:45
<Gadi>
so, there is always a factory squashfs image as the base
10:45
and then a unionfs update overlay
10:45
<amol1>
vagrantc, hi good morning
10:45
<ogra>
amol1, please file a bug in the BOSS bugtracker so they are at least aware they use insecure packages with 6 month old bugs
10:45
<vagrantc>
amol1: morning indeed :)
10:45
<Gadi>
so, I squash the overlay
10:45
<vagrantc>
egads.
10:45
<amol1>
ogra, yes i will make it
10:46
<vagrantc>
amol1: your version of ldm is probably one of the versions with *HUGE* security holes.
10:46
<amol1>
vagrantc, i have installed newly boss 3.0 and connected to debian lenny installed ltsp5
10:46
<ogra>
Gadi, mount the squashfs ina union with a tmpfs, do your updates, run a mksquashfs ... whats the prob ?
10:47
<Gadi>
ogra- because I need the updates to be cumulative
10:47
<vagrantc>
amol1: that working ok?
10:47
<Gadi>
so, I need a tmpfs + old_update
10:47
<ogra>
Gadi, right
10:47
<amol1>
then did some changes in /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/Boss/
10:47
<Gadi>
and squash that
10:47
<ogra>
thats what i described above
10:47
<Gadi>
which is my (f1+f2)
10:47
<amol1>
where i copied all Debian files and edited it to boss
10:47
<Gadi>
plus the base, is (f1+f2) + f3
10:48
<amol1>
vagrantc, i am getting error as Invalid Release file, no valid components
10:48* ogra thinks Gadi thinks around corners here
10:48
<vagrantc>
amol1: have you tried a plain lenny install yet? :)
10:49
<Gadi>
:)
10:49
<amol1>
vagrantc, you mean to say complete lenny OS installation?
10:49
<Gadi>
prolly
10:49
<Nubae>
heh
10:49
<vagrantc>
amol1: well, if you want a working LTSP, debian lenny is in pretty good shape.
10:50
<amol1>
vagrantc, i have installed but i want to use LTSP in BOSS..
10:50
<Nubae>
ogra: are there any mobile tablets being sold with mid pre-installed?
10:50
<ogra>
Nubae, no idea, i dont work in the oem team :)
10:51
<amol1>
vagrantc, there is no much more differance between debian and boss
10:51
<vagrantc>
amol1: apparently there is...
10:51
<Nubae>
k I'll google around some
10:51
<ogra>
you can install mobile on any MID device with mccaslin or lpia arch
10:51
<vagrantc>
amol1: otherwise it would just work.
10:51
<ogra>
i.e. i develop on a samsung Q1Ultra atm
10:51
which is rather priecey
10:51
<Nubae>
yeah
10:52
<amol1>
vagrantc, yes you are right like some change i have done i.e security-mirror
10:52
<Nubae>
well I checked out an image, and it looks real nice... worth getting a mobile device for
10:53
<amol1>
vagrantc, please help me to solve problems of LTSP in boss
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<vagrantc>
amol1: how about this: install a debian lenny chroot, build the ltsp chroot there, and install it on your BOSS server.
10:53
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: yeah, I'm definitely having some problems getting it up and running
10:53
<amol1>
vagrantc, if boss developer are missing something i will tell them to change as well
10:54
<vagrantc>
amol1: it seems like they are missing 8 months of updated packages ...
10:54
amol1: LTSP is highly dependent on a working host distribution... so if that's broken, then LTSP isn't going to work.
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10:56
<amol1>
vagrantc, actually i was getting some errors regarding chroot
10:56
now that some how solved
10:56* vagrantc thanks magic
10:56
<amol1>
vagrantc, getting error about Release file
10:58
<vagrantc>
amol1: i don't have energy to put towards BOSS. every time i have, i've spent hours and hours just trying to get correct information to diagnose a problem that was fixed in debian months and months ago.
10:58
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, CONFIGURE_X=False in lts.conf helps ;)
10:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: great, thanks
10:58
<amol1>
vagrantc, thanks..
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<vagrantc>
amol1: since debian lenny is in freeze, and could release any month now, it seems like it would be a good time for BOSS developers to update their packages.
10:59* ogra grins about "any month"
11:00
<vagrantc>
ogra: last i heard, it was september :)
11:00* vagrantc grins too
11:00
<ogra>
yeah
11:00
<amol1>
vagrantc, yes they will update but i am using debian lenny pool and boss os
11:01
<vagrantc>
amol1: which could break even more things.
11:01
<ogra>
ugh ...
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<vagrantc>
amol1: unless BOSS is only very minor changes from *current* debian lenny, mixing packages is likely to break.
11:02
<amol1>
vagrantc, can you tell me this error E: Invalid Release file, no valid components means what??
11:03
<vagrantc>
amol1: first, get me some versionm information:
11:03
!vers
11:03
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: Error: "vers" is not a valid command.
11:03
<vagrantc>
!ver
11:03
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}'
11:03
<amol1>
vagrantc, if they upgrade lenny pool then also same problem i have to face i.e upgraded lenny pool but base as BOSS os
11:04
<vagrantc>
amol1: well, then it sounds like they have made some bad design decisions.
11:04
amol1: what is in BOSS that's not in Debian?
11:05
amol1: if BOSS doesn't have the resources to keep up a proper fork, then they should really integrate into Debian directly.
11:05
<ltsppbot>
"amol1" pasted "output" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
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<amol1>
vagrantc, BOSS is upcoming linux in indian government
11:06
<Nubae>
http://www.mobilx.hu/wibrain-b1-le-linux-angol-umpc.html comes with ubuntu and isnt too badly priced
11:07
<amol1>
vagrantc, they are not now upto mark as per standard but after some experiance they will be good debian based distro in india
11:07
<vagrantc>
amol1: are BOSS's release files signed?
11:08
<amol1>
vagrantc, signed means? gpg file?
11:08
<vagrantc>
amol1: yes, a Release.gpg file
11:08
<amol1>
vagrantc, http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/dists/tejas/
11:09* vagrantc wonders what indian developers are doing in texas
11:09
<Nubae>
hmmm how is MSI getting their XP for just 17 euros
11:09
<amol1>
vagrantc, Release.gpg file is available there
11:09
<Nubae>
dell and others are all 100 euros extra for XP, but MSI is just 17 euros more
11:09
very strange
11:10
<vagrantc>
amol1: signature is bad.
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<amol1>
vagrantc, bad ??
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<vagrantc>
amol1: what it looks like to me is they used Debian's GPG signature but they've since changed the Release file. so the gpg verification is totally broken.
11:11
<amol1>
vagrantc, so how they should create Release.gpg file for boss?
11:12
vagrantc, command?
11:12
<vagrantc>
amol1: like i said, BOSS is so broken i really can't help.
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<vagrantc>
amol1: they're trying to create a fork of debian without knowing what they're doing.
11:13
amol1: they're basically doing what ubuntu does, but without the know-how and manpower to make it work.
11:14
<amol1>
vagrantc, yes but parent has to guide child..like that ..you all can help them
11:15
<Nubae>
hp mininote looks really nice (120gig drive even)
11:15
<vagrantc>
amol1: well, first thing is the child should stop re-inventing the wheel.
11:15
<cyberorg>
amol1, as all distros are trying to make their stuff work well, they do not have resources to troubleshoot and help others that have branched many months back
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<vagrantc>
amol1: main recommendation would be to get changes integrated into debian, and only change the minimal things to get it to work.
11:16
<cyberorg>
and linux distros are very fast moving target, many many things get fixed since boss branched, debian just cannot help fix all of those issues all over again
11:16
<Nubae>
isnt boss just indian localisation?
11:17
surely that already exists in regular debian
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<vagrantc>
Nubae: well, there's nearly as many localizations in india as the rest of the world, so i don't know what it has that debian doesn't :)
11:18
<Nubae>
ah :-) the micro localisation stuff... still they could add it to debian
11:18
probably easier than reinventing the wheel as you say
11:18
<vagrantc>
that's my suggestion
11:19
<amol1>
vagrantc, cyberorg ..ok i will convey your message to boss developer
11:20
<vagrantc>
amol1: look at the debian-edu project, which is 99% debian, with a few small changes above and beyond that.
11:20
amol1: though it took several years to get to 99%
11:21
<amol1>
vagrantc, if they change Release.gpg ,my error will get solved?
11:21
<vagrantc>
amol1: *maybe*
11:21
<amol1>
vagrantc, sorry to make you trouble..
11:22
<vagrantc>
amol1: you can try with --accept-unsigned-packages, but it will still break later in the process.
11:22
<amol1>
that to support old debian lenny distro
11:22* ogra grins about the "parent has to guide child" statement ...
11:22
<vagrantc>
amol1: since they're not using the Release.gpg files, they should just delete them.
11:22
<ogra>
i wonder what debian would tell us if we stated that :)
11:22
<vagrantc>
amol1: then --accept-unsigned-packages would work
11:22
<amol1>
vagrantc, --accept-unsigned in ltsp-build-client command?
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<vagrantc>
amol1: yes.
11:23
amol1: but the proper thing would be to generate proper Release.gpg files.
11:23
<amol1>
vagrantc, ok i will inform to them either change or delete it..
11:23
now in india it is night ..surely they will do tommarow
11:24
<vagrantc>
amol1: what it looks like to me is they took a snapshot of the debian archive, and then tweaked it, which then made the gpg signatures invalid.
11:25
<amol1>
vagrantc, yes you are correct they are trying first copy debian as it is then customize..
11:26
vagrantc, i am trying ltsp on boss because since it can work on ubuntu then it should work on boss as well
11:26* Nubae drools... http://www.mobilx.hu/gigabyte-m528-mid.html
11:26
<Nubae>
look how cute and small it is
11:27
<amol1>
vagrantc, cyberorg ogra Nubae ..thanks for help goodnight ..see you tommarrow
11:28
<ogra>
Nubae, i think thats actually one you can buy with ubuntu-mid but i'm not sure
11:28
<Q-FUNK>
howdy how
11:29
<Nubae>
how awsome is that... running ubuntu on a device you can snuggly fit in your pocket
11:29
<Q-FUNK>
yup. just like a dbe63 :)
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, not really ... gigabyte bought warrens powerbutton :P
11:30
<Q-FUNK>
:-P
11:31
<Nubae>
http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=162 - that seems to be coming soon, looks like ubuntu too (moblin at least)
11:31
<sbalneav>
But is it a 10-gigawatt supercolliding superbutton?
11:32
<Q-FUNK>
just imagine a beowulf cluster of warren buttons
11:32
<vagrantc>
!s
11:32
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:33
<sbalneav>
Morning vagrantc!
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, you could tunr off the world if you have enough nodes connected i bet
11:34
<Q-FUNK>
is that a black hole clustering then?
11:35
<ogra>
rather y2k becoming reality i guess
11:35
<Q-FUNK>
y2warren
11:35
:-P
11:35
<ogra>
lol
11:36
<Q-FUNK>
a pity LTSP hackfests never get organized on this side of the peco (or at least, outside USA). would be nice to meet him and the rest of the crew.
11:37
<Nubae>
yeah, jammcq wants to set one up though
11:37
for us euros...
11:37
<rjune>
that would be cool.
11:37
I bet ragnar would be all over that.
11:37
<Q-FUNK>
even canada would be acceptable. just as long as it's not held on the homeland absurdity soil.
11:38
<Nubae>
hehehe, the land of hockey moms
11:38
<rjune>
you mean like britain?
11:38
<vagrantc>
talk of a shindig in brazil next year
11:38
<Q-FUNK>
brazil would be cool
11:38
<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: You organize one, I'll come :)
11:38
<Q-FUNK>
maddog is all over there already
11:38
sbalneav: would Estonia be exotic enough of a place for an LTSP hackfest?
11:39
<Nubae>
heh hows the weather there btw... here in Vienna its close to freezing
11:39
<Q-FUNK>
artec could easily provide meeting space for a weekend and hotels here are relatively cheap.
11:39
plus, the artec office has its own sauna, which is a nice way to end a day's worth of hacking
11:39
<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: mostly, it's a matter of if people can come ... get enough people willing to go, and LTSP hackfest it is.
11:40
at lkeast, that's my take on it.
11:40
<Q-FUNK>
sounds good. I'll take initiative and ask management then. beyond the upcoming one this month, is any hackfest scheduled now?
11:41
i.e. does ltsp.org have an events calendar I could peruse and add an event to?
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, i was thinking about doing one by teh end of next year how about arctec doing one at the begining ?
11:47
<Q-FUNK>
sure
11:47
easter weekend?
11:47
winter vacation week?
11:50
ogra: where did you have in mind for yours? germany? do you think you could convince suse.de to sponsor and host, especially if it could get them back in the family?
11:51
<ogra>
i have no connection to any suse people in germany (and dont really feel like i want to :) )
11:51
the ones i know from suse.de dont work there anymore
11:52
<Q-FUNK>
ok, so canonicla event and where?
11:53
<ogra>
no canonical event
11:53
i would do it at my house ...
11:53
<Q-FUNK>
oh :)
11:53
<ogra>
we have a hotel nearby
11:53
<Q-FUNK>
sounds good, then
11:53
<ogra>
and i have about 200sqm here
11:53
<Q-FUNK>
:D
11:54
<cyberorg>
Q-FUNK, jbrockmeier@novell.com ;)
11:54
<ogra>
with a 40sqm room we could abiuse as meeting place
11:54
<Q-FUNK>
cyberorg: noted
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<rjune>
cyberorg: you work for novell?
12:03
<cyberorg>
rjune, nope
12:03
<Q-FUNK>
cyberorg: sent
12:04
<cyberorg>
rjune, i work on opensuse ltsp
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<jcastro>
ogra: around?
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<Guest49464>
IDENTIFY jr23451
14:06
hehe
14:06
luckily..
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<jammcq>
heavy bummer.... Richard Wright of Pink Floyd has died :)
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<johnny>
so.. who is selling thin clients that are capable of running firefox/flash locally?
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<Q-FUNK>
we do
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but then those would be called thick clients
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<johnny>
the term around here for that has been low fat :)
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<Gadi>
your mama's thin client's so fat...
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<johnny>
Q-FUNK, you're far away from the USA tho , aren't you?
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<Gadi>
when she runs an application - it's in triplicate
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<johnny>
hello Gadi
14:47* Gadi waves
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<Gadi>
... as he tries his thin client standup routine
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14:50* vagrantc has always objected to "low fat clients"
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<vagrantc>
i think that term came from non-native english speakers.
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<laga_>
what's your suggestion?
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<vagrantc>
not so interested in a naming discussion, really. though i prefer diskless workstations ...
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<johnny>
but that's the name of a company :)
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<vagrantc>
but conceptually, it's more accurate.
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15:37* Lns thinks thin-clients with some localapps should be called 2%
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<_UsUrPeR_>
lns, the real question is: what percentage is whole milk?
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3%?
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<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_: lol...not sure!
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"I see you're drinking 2 percent. Is that cuz you think you're fat? Because you're not... you could be drinking whole milk if you wanted to."
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<Armagnac>
Hi everybody
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<cliebow>
jammcq:check it out..no errors...new keyboard
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<Armagnac>
I need some help with LTSP on Ubuntu, a problem with the X's
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<cliebow>
Armagnac//;spit it out..ogra et al are around
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<Armagnac>
well
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I installed a Ubuntu server,
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later I installed ubuntu-desktop on it
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LTSP also
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<cliebow>
k
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<Armagnac>
the clients boot ok, but they dont start the Xs
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<jammcq>
cliebow: wow
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<Armagnac>
I follow a tut on FatThinClients
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so I chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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<jammcq>
cliebow: check it out: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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<cliebow>
what video chip??
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jammcq:sure will..
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<rjune>
Lns: does 2% mean that the milk is 2% fat? or that 98% of the fat has been removed?
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<Armagnac>
intel I think
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<Lns>
rjune: sorry..i'm not a milk expert :p
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<Armagnac>
I just make X to check if there were some error but no
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<Lns>
maybe try #milk ;)
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<cliebow>
jammcq:cool!!! really looking forward to seeing you and Scottie..gotta twist vagrants arm ;-]
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<jammcq>
yeah, and others. so far, me and scotty are the only people signed up
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<cliebow>
Armagnac:i think ogra would suggest you lok at the x log on the client
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<sbalneav>
So, basically, all the good looking people are coming, is what you're saying then.
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<Armagnac>
you mean /var/log/syslog???
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<cliebow>
You BET!
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<jammcq>
heh
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<Armagnac>
or /var/log/Xorg.0.log???
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<jammcq>
"all the good" or "both of the good" ?
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<cliebow>
Armagnac:no..yes
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Xorg.0.log
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<Armagnac>
wich one?
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ok
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<mistik1>
Man I would love to go but I dont think I'll be able
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<cliebow>
we need mistik1!!!
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<jammcq>
mistik1: we'd love to have you again
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<mistik1>
I'd love to see Chuck and Dave
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<jammcq>
but not me and scotty?
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<sbalneav>
:)
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<mistik1>
Oh I've seen you guys much more than they
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<jammcq>
i see
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but you wouldn't be opposed to seeing us, right?
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<mistik1>
I can still hear you and Scotties voices, I cant remember Dave and Chuck
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of course not :)
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<sbalneav>
Mine's quite nasal.
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<jammcq>
it's not nasal, it's just canadian
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<rjune>
eh?
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<mistik1>
hehe
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rjune: You going this year too?
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: would it be feasible to catch a ride with you and scotty?
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: sure, you want us to swing by Oregon and pick you up?
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<vagrantc>
that's about 1/3rd of the way there :)
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jammcq: heh.
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<jammcq>
cuz we'd do it
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well, i'd have to trade in the suburban for a prius
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: it was more of a "maybe i can finnagle myself that far and coast the rest of the way"
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<Gadi>
yo mama's thin client's so fat ... the only thing it can run is a weight watchers program
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<vagrantc>
anyways... gotta run
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<jammcq>
Gadi: still trying, eh?
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<Gadi>
jammcq: tough crowd
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:)
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: Maybe we should have started in San Fran, dipped the back wheels in the ocean, and headed cross country picking people up, and park with the front wheels in the ocean in Bah Hahbah
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: don't tempt me
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<Gadi>
mistik1: you can ride with me, if I drive it
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<mistik1>
argh!!, let go of my arm Gadi
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;)
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16:09* sbalneav highhats for Gadi's jokes
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<sbalneav>
Ba-dum-bum
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<jammcq>
don't forget to tip your waitress
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<sbalneav>
We'll be here all week, folks
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<jammcq>
so, guy walks into a bar
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says "Hey, where can I find a thin client?
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bartender says: stick around till closing time, they ALL start looking thin
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<sbalneav>
Ba-dum-bum
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<mistik1>
haha
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<jammcq>
me and Gadi are going on the road
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kinda like Abott and Costello
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<mistik1>
I'll catch you when your tour reaches Jersey
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<Q-FUNK>
thelma and louise
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<cliebow>
mistik1:ill look west at sunrise,,prhas you can see the sun shining off my bald spot
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<jammcq>
Mork and Mindy
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<sbalneav>
So, a thin client, an existentialist philosopher, and an axe murderer walk into a bar...
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<cliebow>
hahah
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<jammcq>
oh jeez
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<cliebow>
fells like old timme with the Scottmeister
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guess the keyboard Doesnt help that much
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<mistik1>
cliebow: Dont worry I've got plenty more grey now, I also have enough hair for us both :)
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<sbalneav>
Nice to see cliebow's keyboard's still wonky too :)
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<cliebow>
hehe
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<mistik1>
Man we need to donate a updated website to dave
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<monteslu>
moquist, you around
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?
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<jammcq>
heh
16:14* jammcq thinks that mistik1 and vagrantc should room together. kinda like 2 peas in a pod
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<johnny>
i'm not sure if i can afford the price for the rooms atm.. hopefully that will change
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<mistik1>
jammcq: I dont know if you guys want me there, I may want to program localapps in Java :)
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<jammcq>
mistik1: you may arrive thinking that way...
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but you'll go home with a new attitude, i'm sure of that :)
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<mistik1>
I dont know man, It may be a toss up
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<rjune>
mistik1: no.
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<moquist>
monteslu: am now
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<monteslu>
moquist!
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<monteslu>
hey, you ever have an id2entry.bdb go corrupt?
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<moquist>
sure
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I keep lots of slapcat output files around for slapadd restoration
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actually...I don't use smbldap anymore. so I used to do that.
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<monteslu>
hah
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well, I uh sorta don't have an ldif backup
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<moquist>
ew :(
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<monteslu>
I think I'm screwed. I might just be rebuilding this thing
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<moquist>
bdb has some restoration utilities...but yeah, you might be rebuilding.
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did you use the smbldap installer to set things up?
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<monteslu>
I'm finding that all things sleepycat have almost no documentation
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<moquist>
if so, and if it was a sufficiently recent version, it set up ldif backups for you.
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<monteslu>
moquist, yeat but it was way back on FC5
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where would it have put the ldifs?
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<moquist>
/var/smbldap-backups
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also check for /etc/logrotate.d/smbldap-ldif-backups
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<monteslu>
if i have them could i use them to rebuild the whole /var/lib/ldap ?
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<moquist>
yep
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something LIKE this (this may blow up your satellite, do not blame me, etc.):
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mv /var/lib/ldap /var/lib/ldap.2008.09.i-like-ice-cream
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(fricking fairpoint lost my 'Net connection just then)
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mkdir /var/lib/ldap; chmod ldap:ldap /var/lib/ldap
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cp /var/lib/ldap.2008..../DB_CONFIG /var/lib/ldap
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slapadd < /some/backup/file.ldif
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<warren>
Q-FUNK: good idea for branding of the button!
17:08* warren is in horrible post-op pain
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<monteslu>
moquist, I got one from a week ago!
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im saved
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<moquist>
yay!
17:12* moquist is glad he built that feature
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<monteslu>
strange thing now though. I
17:14
I've made a copy of that file into my home and an "ls" is hanging
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that box might be in trouble :(
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<moquist>
are you an LDAP user?
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<monteslu>
i'm on that box as root
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<moquist>
if you are an ldap user...oh. well, if ls is trying to look up ownership details of files in that dir, then it might be unhappy
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you may want to consider booting a livecd, mounting root, and chrooting in to finish this up
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I have done it on live systems without rebooting, though.
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with 2k users. :p
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<monteslu>
have about 10 of those gzip ldifs in there
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all empty
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all about 20 bytes zipped, but unzip to empty
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<moquist>
!
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ah, gzip was performing lossless expansion.
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that makes me think that slapcat has been failing for quite a while...how long has this box been running?
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<monteslu>
weeks, maybe months
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<moquist>
uptime says?
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<monteslu>
oh, i've restarted a few times today
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<moquist>
heh; k
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<monteslu>
so, the error on startup tells me that id2entry is hosed
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but, that i can use a -u to get past it :)
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<moquist>
maybe there's a bdb util that can fix that.
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<monteslu>
so i edit the init script accordingly
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<moquist>
or maybe you should just get past it and then run slapcat
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<monteslu>
and it starts, but doesn't reallyw ork
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ahh, good idea
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though maybe its really dying just my init script is finishing ok
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yeah it was just my init script
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slapcat is still telling me my id2entry is corrupt
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slapd_db_dump is able to dump that bdb file, but I don't know how to use slapd_db_load to try and bring it back in
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there doesn't seem to be any documention on those utilities
17:30* moquist nods about the lack of documentation
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<monteslu>
its incredible. It must have gotten worse with oracle's acquisition
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<moquist>
I never used any of those utilities b/c they were so opaque, and because LDIF backups were so much easier.
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<monteslu>
I think I have only one recourse now. To build a new ldap server and move the home directories
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I'm thinking 6.06
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using your script
17:31
then I just need the teacher to recreate the accounts
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this is an absolute nightmare
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i gotta quit volunteering to help
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I have a phone meeting with my real job in an hour and a half, I've spent the whole day here. And the school is still down
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that or try and figure out the file format for bdb files and fix my id2entry in a hex editor in the next half hour
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<monteslu>
there has to be another way
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<johnny>
so.. who does the thin client selling here that can run local apps? :)
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<monteslu>
screw it.
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no ldap this year
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i'm just copying contents on to one server
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these new servers are big anyway
17:56* cliebow cliebow looks at backups for his six smbldap aschools....
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<monteslu>
cliebow, you have another full time gig?
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i know, i know its no excuse
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but I really hosed myself. And I have to get them back up asap
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quickest way would be on a single system right now
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<cliebow>
monteslu, umm..yeah..sort of...wish i could help you..
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monteslu, you mean homedirs and all on one server
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<monteslu>
yeah, kinda
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they've need to do grades and stuff tomorrow
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<cliebow>
omg
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<mighty-d>
Hi
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<cliebow>
mhey!
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<monteslu>
like, i said, this is an absolute nightmare
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<mighty-d>
im having troubles with a nvidia (video) based client
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<cliebow>
mighty-d, i amSO far behind i'd only screw you up
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<mighty-d>
im running hardy, and i did apt-get install nvidia-glx-new on the chroot, i tried to set a xorg.conf.nvidia but so far i only get a blank blinking screen
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cliebow: what do u mean?
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<cliebow>
i am no help these days
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<mighty-d>
been bussy?
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:P
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<cliebow>
yeah fixing freaking ib ooks
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<mighty-d>
lol
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<cliebow>
we lost our cracjerjack network guy in the SPring.
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so the school's solution was..hire an administrator
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<mighty-d>
and im pretty sure it is not a sysadmin
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?
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<cliebow>
yup
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wouldnt know a network if one fell in front of her..
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<mighty-d>
network: to fix a tennis net
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<cliebow>
i am a boat skipper in the summer..so ii only go in three days a week anyway..
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i run from school to school the other three dasys
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<snaphappi>
hi, im having problems with the Marvell eth controller on my ltsp client. it keeps crashing on pxeboot.
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i have this file on my system: /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko
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does that mean that the driver is installed and part of the pxeboot image?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<johnny>
scotty
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howdy
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<sbalneav>
Heya
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So, I've prolly got 1/2 hour worth of brain power left in the day.
23:36
Look at LTSP docs, or go play Portal
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<mistik1>
Sounds like the perfect time to start writing a new program :)
23:39
sbalneav: You're still with legal aid right?
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<sbalneav>
Yup.
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<mistik1>
cool
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<sbalneav>
I'll be there 'till I retire, or they fire me. :)
23:39
<mistik1>
heh
23:40
Its seems I'm been pulled into the CA direction
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<johnny>
that looks like a good org
23:40
go sbalneav
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<mistik1>
At least for the last 1.5years all my work is comming from up there
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<sbalneav>
Our economy hasn't tanked.... yet.
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<mistik1>
yea, I'm getting work mostly out of Alberta and thier economy seems to be doing grand
23:42
I hear they are having a major labor shortage
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<johnny>
would be fun to do something with ltsp.
23:43
<mistik1>
From what I hear businesses up that way advertise help wanted more than thier products
23:44
johnny: I find it hard to believe I was pulled so far away from an LTSP based business
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I would not have dreamed such 3 years ago
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<johnny>
what are you up to now?
23:45
i'm a web developer by trade
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so not even at all related to ltsp.. i just happen to do ltsp at our store
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<mistik1>
I find myself coding for food mostly these days
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<johnny>
since i joined that collective
23:46
<mistik1>
I recently put togather a content filter systems being used in some schools in Alberta, also doing some wed evelopment
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lots of AJAXy type stuff
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<sbalneav>
Well, night, off to bed..
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<mistik1>
gnight sbalneav
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I think I'll make an early night of it too
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johnny: take it easy man
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<johnny>
night