IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 July 2014   (all times are UTC)

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<shogunx>
ahoy
04:01
!seen vagrantc
04:01
<ltsp`>
vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 31 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <vagrantc> what distro?
05:23
<Hyperbyte>
Yo!
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10:34
<xiphias256>
I also experience tearing on the login-screen, when using the opensource nv driver on Ubuntu 14.04. It displays fine if you do a login -> logout
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10:35
<DJUnreal>
Hey all, hope everyone's well...
10:36
Got a bit of a weird issue going on with my latest LTSP build (running on Debian testing with the latest versions from the repos, which build a Jessie image) - when a client tries to log in, the screen goes black as if it's starting to process the login, and then returns to the login screen
10:36
<xiphias256>
does anyone have any luck using Likewise/PBIS in a thick client setup?
10:36
<DJUnreal>
I don't seem to be able to get rsyslog talking back to my server (suspect that's a side-issue though), but wondered if anyone's seen this before?
10:37
<xiphias256>
DJUnreal: Something wrong with username/passord?
10:37
<DJUnreal>
negative - tested it on a local shell on the server, works fine, but won't on the client
10:37
no error messages are displayed either unfortunately
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10:38
<xiphias256>
Are you running a thick or thin client?
10:38
<DJUnreal>
i've enabled fatclient support, but i'm not sure if it's trying to run fat or thin
10:42
<xiphias256>
if your lts.conf contains fatclient=true, it is running as a fat client. Then your login account needs to exist in the image, not on the server.
10:43
<DJUnreal>
ohh! excellent!
10:43
thanks :D
10:43
I shall sort that!
10:43
<xiphias256>
your welcome! :)
10:45
<DJUnreal>
i guess to add users to the local image
10:46
i've got to set up the /etc/passwd inside the ltsp chroot
10:46
right?
10:46
(and the other req's - /etc/shadow, /home/x etc)
10:52
i've explicitly disabled fatclient support, and it's still doing the same thing... i'll try adding the users to the image and see what happens
11:15
hrmm
11:15
that didn't fix it either
11:15
tried running with fatclient=true with users in chroot/etc/passwd and chroot/etc/shadow
11:15
tried fatclient=false
11:15
still no dice
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11:40
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: It's LTSP_FATCLIENT=True/False, not fatclient=true/false
11:41
Also, don't create users in the chroot, even for fat clients
11:41
!screen_02
11:41
<ltsp`>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
11:41
<alkisg>
You can get local access that ^ way
11:42
<DJUnreal>
okay... so where do i create the users for fat clients?
11:44
and yeah, i was using LTSP_FATCLIENT (as per the manpage! :) )
11:53
ok
11:53
i'm seeing a load of mei_me timeouts
11:53
!mei_me
11:53
<ltsp`>
Error: "mei_me" is not a valid command.
11:55
<DJUnreal>
bit it does now appear that ldm is restarting as soon as i try to log in
11:58
the user is there, and i can id it and see it's there
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12:08
<DJUnreal>
ooh big nasty netsplit
12:10
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: you create the users on the server
12:10
!screen_02
12:10
<ltsp`>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
12:10
<alkisg>
From there, try `ssh user@server`
12:10
And see if it works
12:11
If it does, try the xterm session, selecting it from the LDM preferences menu
12:11
<DJUnreal>
ok
12:11
conn refused
12:11
that may be it
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12:20
<DJUnreal>
alkisg: i think i cracked it
12:21
the idiot who built the OS for me
12:21
moved sshd to 2222
12:21
instead of just NAT'ing it on his router
12:22
but apparently that hasn't sorted it either
12:23
<alkisg>
ssh user@server works now?
12:23
<DJUnreal>
yep
12:23
<alkisg>
From vt2?
12:23
<DJUnreal>
i assume doing server as an ip address is fine
12:23
yes, from vt2
12:23
<alkisg>
No
12:23
Write "server"
12:23
Don't change the hostname at all
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12:23
<alkisg>
Don't use the real hostname, use "server"
12:24
Did you get a prompt about trusting the server?
12:24
<DJUnreal>
yep
12:24
that worked too
12:24
no prompt
12:24
just "enter password"
12:24
which i did
12:24
and it works
12:24
<alkisg>
OK switch to ldm and try to login
12:24
<DJUnreal>
same thing
12:24
ldm restarts
12:24
<alkisg>
Now do this on the server: tail -f /var/log/auth.log
12:24
And try on ldm again
12:25
if you see successful login, then you're fine wrt LDM
12:25
And you move on to checking the session, xorg etc
12:25
I.e. back to vt2 and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, /var/log/ldm.log...
12:26
Remember to try the xterm session first
12:26
<DJUnreal>
i see session opened for user sisuser1 by (uid=0)
12:26
so that's working i guess
12:26
but then session closed almost immediately after
12:26
<alkisg>
uid=0?
12:26
Are you trying to login as root?
12:27
<DJUnreal>
no
12:27
<alkisg>
Ah ok it's standard sshd
12:27
Ignore that, go on
12:27
Are you trying the xterm session?
12:29
<DJUnreal>
stby
12:30
yeah
12:31
there's no ldm.log on the local machine
12:31
ah wait, you said server
12:31
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: no, client
12:31
The logs => locally
12:31
First check xorg
12:31
And, lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
12:31
Which distro/version was that?
12:31
<DJUnreal>
there's no ldm.log
12:32
<alkisg>
(03:31:24 μμ) alkisg: First check xorg
12:32
(03:31:29 μμ) alkisg: And, lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
12:32
(03:31:36 μμ) alkisg: Which distro/version was that?
12:32
<DJUnreal>
i see a VGA device
12:32
with the lspci
12:32
i'm using debian testing (the latest
12:32
)
12:33
<alkisg>
Yes, mention the pci model here
12:33
<DJUnreal>
with the latest version of ltsp, which is building jessie images
12:33
<alkisg>
E.g. it's known that sis has issue with recent xorg versions
12:33
<DJUnreal>
Intel Corp 4 series chipset Integrated Graphics
12:33
<]oscar>
Hi! I need a folder under /mnt, but I didn't find a way... at reboot I always obtain an empty /mnt
12:33
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: ls /usr/share/xsessions/
12:33
(client)
12:33
And, getltscfg -a
12:33
==>pastebin
12:34
]oscar: man lts.conf, check FSTAB_x
12:34
!lts.conf
12:34
<ltsp`>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
12:34
<DJUnreal>
hrmm
12:34
on the client there's no /usr/share/xsessions
12:34
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: are you trying to get a fat client or a thin?
12:34
Because for fats, you need a DE in the chroot
12:35
<DJUnreal>
it does the same as a thin
12:35
but currently it's a fat (and appears to not like it)
12:35
<alkisg>
Previously for thins you had sshd issues
12:35
Now for fats you don't have a DE
12:36
Try again without anything in lts.conf
12:36
I.e. LTSP_FATCLIENT=False, the default
12:36
<DJUnreal>
ok
12:36
<]oscar>
sorry: I added my FSTAB_0 option, but I need to mount a share under /mnt/backend folder. And mant never contain the "backed" folder...
12:37
<DJUnreal>
just testing
12:37
stby
12:37
(this is all made more fun by the fact that i'm sat in a tent in a field!)
12:39
<alkisg>
]oscar: try this on your server: $ grep mnt /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes
12:39
<DJUnreal>
ltsp_fatclient is false
12:39
still getting the same thing
12:40
<alkisg>
If you see /mnt there, and if you're using nbd, remove it, then create the subdir, then run ltsp-update-image again
12:40
DJUnreal: output of `getltscfg -a` ?
12:40
<]oscar>
alkisg, ok!
12:40
<DJUnreal>
LTSP_CONFIG="True"
12:40
SOUND="False"
12:41
LOCALDEV="FALSE"
12:41
err
12:41
False
12:41
Configure_X="False"
12:41
SERVER="10.0.0.1"
12:41
LTSP_FATCLIENT="False"
12:41
LDM_DIRECTX="True"
12:41
LDM_SYSLOG="True"
12:42
ahh hrmm
12:42
it's trying to use LDM_SESSION="openbox"
12:42
that's probably not right
12:42
<alkisg>
Try with an empty lts.conf first :)
12:42
<DJUnreal>
like a totally blank file?
12:42
i assume i need to define server etc...
12:44
<alkisg>
Not an empty file, a non-existing file
12:44
mv lts.conf /backups
12:44
The boot server is assumed to be the login server as well
12:45
<DJUnreal>
ok
12:47
okay, we have progress
12:47
xterm doesn't work, but it fell back to its "default session" and works...
12:47
guess i need to add lines one at a time until it stops working
12:48
thankls alkisg!
12:48
<alkisg>
You're welcome :)
12:55
<DJUnreal>
tell you what
12:55
the amount of help you've given me this last year or so
12:55
if i ever get to meet you in person, i owe you a large quantity of beer
12:55
<]oscar>
alkisg, thanks a lot! You solved my problem :)
12:56* alkisg accepts beer donations via paypal, alkisg at gmail :P
12:56
<]oscar>
:D
12:57
<DJUnreal>
i can't exactly post you a crate :P
12:57
<]oscar>
Bye!
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12:58
<DJUnreal>
gotta say... if i can get fatclient to play nice (guess i need to find a guide for that), i'll be well happy
12:58
i assume it's /not/ just as simple as copying the session files into the other folder
13:00
<alkisg>
Install a DE in the chroot and let LTSP_FATCLIENT to default again
13:00
<DJUnreal>
cool
13:00
i suspected that may be it
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<DJUnreal>
hey all, me again. sorry to be a pain, but somehow my thinclients have no ability to resolve DNS even though the server itself has it (and is also now running dnsmasq, which hasn't made a difference)
19:12
Anyone ever seen this?
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<DJUnreal>
hey alkisg, welcome back
20:13
wb to adrianorg too
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<DJUnreal>
wb alkisg1
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<alkisg1>
Hello
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20:24
<alkisg>
DJUnreal: thin or fat clients?
20:25
<DJUnreal>
thins
20:25
i didn't change the config after we got 'em booting earlier
20:25
<alkisg>
So you run lxterminal, and you can ping 8.8.8.8, but `host 8.8.8.8` returns nothing?
20:26
<DJUnreal>
on the server, it all works
20:26
lemme walk over to a client again, stby
20:27
ok, the client can't ping through to 8.8.8.8
20:27
but the server can
20:27
<alkisg>
Do you see user@server there in the prompt?
20:27
Or user@ltsp123 ?
20:27
<DJUnreal>
neither
20:27
i just see a $
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<alkisg>
What's the output of `hostname`?
20:27
<DJUnreal>
the client name
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ltsp121
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<alkisg>
So it's a fat client
20:28
<DJUnreal>
it shouldn't be... the config file is blank!
20:28
ie doesn't exist
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<alkisg>
The default is to be fat if an xsession exists in the chroot
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Thin if not
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<DJUnreal>
ahh riiiiiiiiglt
20:28
right even
20:28
more handy information i didn't know ;)
20:31
i shall change that
20:36
well that's resolved that one
20:38
thanks again alkisg
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23:17
<metaf5>
When I try to PXE boot a client from my server running LTSP I get "An error occured while mounting /sys/fs/fuse/connections. Does anyone have any idea what might be going wrong, or maybe what logs I should check?
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<vagrantc>
what distro?
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<metaf5>
Some random looking shows "nbd_server: Can't open authorization file (null) (Bad address)." in syslog.
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This is Ubuntu 12.04.
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The client also says "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery", but doesn't respond to keypresses.
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