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Channel log from 8 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<tom47>
i am running edubuntu in test mode and am thinking of trying it in a small business with 5 clients but with the clients attached via wifi .... cannot find any documentation on doing it this way ... any ideas?
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<vagrantc>
!wireless
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "wireless" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WirelessLtsp
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<vagrantc>
the short answer is, it's not really possible in the same way that wired ethernet is.
00:18
you either need a wireless-to-ethernet bridge for each thin client ... or you need to copy the kernel and initrd to a local media on each thin client, and keep them all updated.
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you might have to do some initrd tweaking
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<mathesis>
jai
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i have the next error
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error failed to mount the root directory via NFa
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Posible reasons include
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1)NFS sevice not be runnin on the server
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<tom47>
vagrantc the local media route seems the most attractive
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<mathesis>
2)workstation ip does not map too hostname,eith in /etc/host or in dns
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3)wrong address for nfs sever in the dhcp config
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4)wrong pathname for root directory in the dhcp config
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<tom47>
vagantc is there any experience with the wireless bridge?
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<Jenna>
hi ! a question .
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what is the requirments of adding a user on ltsp client, just so that he also able to use his usb flash drives.
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does adding that user to "fuse" group enough, or should one also chmod some file/directory as well ?
00:39
<vagrantc>
!checklist
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<mathesis>
vagrantc: https://listas.hispalinux.es/pipermail/ltsp-es/2003-December/000298.html
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: tiene al mismo problema?
01:00
<mathesis>
si vagrantc
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puedes entrar a mi server
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es que este es el final
01:01
<vagrantc>
mathesis: necesito dormir ... no tengo mucho tiempo
01:01
<mathesis>
ya compra un hdd de 120 gb + 1 gb ram for 4 thin client
01:01
te doy acces
01:01
ok
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: en la proxima noche, quisas
01:03
<mathesis>
vagrantc: mira lo que me manda el syslog
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http://pastebin.ca/345079
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: lo siento, no se.
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<mathesis>
thanks
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<chupacabra>
getting all these windows apps ready to work under crossover. next to checking out ltsp
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<dberkholz>
for those interested, the latest dnsmasq release added an integrated tftp server, so you can now use it instead of all the other complex setups for dhcp, dns and tftp.
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<dberkholz>
actually i guess that's 2 versions ago, now
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<Tarcisio>
alou
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alguem me ajuda com ltsp
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<Tarcisio>
alou
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tanta gente e ninguem fala
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kd vcs
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<Tarcisio>
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syslogd: cannot write to remote file handle on192.168.0.10:514
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rc.sysinit completed, switching to multi-session mode
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07:27
e mais nada
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nem abre o login do console
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nem sai do canto
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alguem tem uma saida pra isso
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<Tarcisio>
como eh galera
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<jamil>
i have 3 eth and onlys its one eth1
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<mathesis>
hi all
09:05
i am have proble for detect card netowrk
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<cliebow_>
etyack_bb:eric Howdy!!!
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<etyack_bb>
hey cliebow
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<cliebow_>
kids growing like weeds?
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<etyack_bb>
sure are. One of the twins started walking this week.
10:15
<cliebow_>
Cool..pretty exciting..you working for ron?
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<etyack_bb>
and others
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<th0rnydev>
hi, i am wondering whether there is a way to send messages to users, for example alerting them about an imminent shutdown or similar?
10:24
is that a "no" or "we're all idle" ?
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<PMantis>
PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0
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PRINTER_0_TYPE = P
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MODULE_01 = usb-uhci
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MODULE_02 = printer
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FATAL: Module printer not found.
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LTSP 4.2
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2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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A locate of printer.[sk]o or .o .c = nothing in ltsp dir
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So, it's correct.
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But perhaps wiki needs update
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<sahil>
is there a script that i could run to see what the actual load a sever of mine could handle
10:58
like number of users
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<PMantis>
sahil, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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<cliebow_>
there is only guesstimates
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<PMantis>
No script that I know of... but that's the best place for info
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<cliebow_>
as PMantis so glibly elucidated
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<PMantis>
hey jammcq
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<Sp0oKeR>
jey jammcq
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ops hey
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jammcq, will you come to FISL?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hiii
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at last! i change my problem with my NEW card eth
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so now can catch ip from dhcp but now have nfs troubles
13:59
some active to check?
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<sepski>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, what kind of nfs problems ? check your mount arguments, try with tcp if you use udp and vice versa
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
out the 4 possibles error at kernel panic..
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i check 1 by 1 tryning to identified
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so services is runing
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/etc/hosts is ok
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192.168.0.1 ltsp
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wrong adress for nfs at dhcp files
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i dont know what client means
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
and wrong pathname root directory in dhcp file
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i check with both path
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-> /opt/ltsp and /opt/ltsp-4.2
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/etc/exports was created by ltspadmin and out that cat
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/opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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really said more above 192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp or /opt/ltsp-4.2 dailed, by reason given by server Permission denied nfsmount failed bad file descriptor
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what permission I have and where?
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<cliebow_>
sh:can you try showmount -e from a commandline
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check that portmap is running
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm i remove ltspserver again and i make from zero why nfs when i set it option by ltspadmin menu and type [y] why can't work?
14:34
i made it by default
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<cliebow_>
be sure portmap and nfs are really running..despite what ltspadmin might say..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm
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i paste slow
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Stopping NFS kernel daemon: mountd nfsd.
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Unexporting directories for NFS kernel daemon....
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Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...exportfs: /etc/exports [2]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0:/opt/ltsp".
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Assuming default behaviour ('subtree_check').
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NOTE: this default will change with nfs-utils version 1.1.0
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exportfs: /etc/exports [3]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0:/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles".
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Assuming default behaviour ('subtree_check').
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NOTE: this default will change with nfs-utils version 1.1.0
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.
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Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsd mountd.
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is that correct?
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<cliebow_>
id rather see output of netstat -anp|grep ":2049"
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and showmount -e
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
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udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* -
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Export list for opensource:
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/opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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<cliebow_>
that looks good
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
:\
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<cliebow_>
portmap...netstat -anp|grep portmap
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2110/portmap
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udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* 2110/portmap
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<cliebow_>
dang..that looks good as well
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
kernel said mount 192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason by server
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Permission denied
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<cliebow_>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
nfsmount failed : bad file descriptor
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<cliebow_>
see anything there that is apporpriate?
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<dan__t>
baaah.
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
well
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only the last below
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NFSOPTS="-o nolock,ro,proto=tcp"
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<dan__t>
Firefox locks up my setup left and righ
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right
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
including at kernel
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my default at .pxe.cfg/default not have that in file
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could be that?
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<cliebow_>
cant hurt to gicve it a shot..
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i dont know your setup..nfs can be quirky
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i'll try with this :|
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append rw root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initramfs.gz NIC=8139too NFSOPTS="-o nolock,ro,proto=tcp"
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yeaaaaa
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jeje
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works!!!
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:)
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but well..
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i have at server xdm
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and gdm
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just have my mouse
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and gray deep
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<dan__t>
ok, I have machines that just lock up - completely. Anyone have experience troubleshooting this?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
not out nothing like login or gdm domething
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<dan__t>
One of the machines was a FC6 machine prior to the LTSP switchover, and was not locking up. So I can conclude I think that things are failing due to a mechanism in LTSP
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<cliebow_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: read this if you have gray screen..this is 4.2 i believe..you need to enable remote xdmcp
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<dan__t>
'afternoon.
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<erdinc>
i wish that :) Im in gmt+2
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<dan__t>
i'm -7
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<erdinc>
:))
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
re-again
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uhmm. i just can hit to X gray and mouse .. not see the login or something i'm using gdm.. what left me now? :|
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i check this
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netstat -ap | grep xdmcp
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not receive nothing
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<dan__t>
start gdm manually?
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look at /etc/inittab
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<dan__t>
Look for a 'prefdm' section.
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I believe the page that talks about xdmcp details this process, too.
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<mathesis>
some idea http://pastebin.ca/346057
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<cliebow>
newrott?ids that a typo?
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<mathesis>
i have error http://pastebin.ca/346064
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<mathesis_>
hi vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
mathesis_: buenas noches
21:47
<mathesis_>
buenas noche vagrantc
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vagrantc: excuse me i have error
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http://pastebin.ca/346057
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you can help me
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tengo muchos problemas con el nuevo hardware que compre
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no me reconoce las tarjetas de red
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<vagrantc>
mathesis_: en cinco minutos
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<mathesis_>
ok
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<mathesis>
vagrantc: me dices cuando estes desocupado
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: #
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mathesis: mount :Mounting 192.168.0.1/opt/ltsp/i386 on newrrot/nfsroot
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# failed invalid argument"
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mathesis: creo que "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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mathesis: con ":"
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<mathesis>
in dhcp.conf
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<vagrantc>
grep root-path dhcp.conf
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<mathesis>
ption root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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option root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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vagrantsolo tengo una nic por que me detecta la segunda como eth1_rena
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recuerdas que eso me paso hace tiempo y lo solucionaste?
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<vagrantc>
ah, si.
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<mathesis>
puedes entrar de nuevo
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: ah.
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<mathesis>
in the query vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
ogra: why didn't we stick with the same variable names as ltsp 4.x for lots of things, like LOCALDEV/LOCAL_STORAGE ... there have been a couple others...
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<mathesis>
alguien me lee
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