IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 10 August 2011   (all times are UTC)

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06:53
<mittfran>
good morning all
06:54
can you help me out with ltsp and citrix ica client?
06:54
played a lot with it but doesn't run as it should
07:03
anybody there?
07:03
who
07:35
<Hyperbyte>
Hey mittfran :)
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08:57
<Hyperbyte>
Hey mittfran :)
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09:40
<bakytn>
Hello there! Can you help to chnage the splash screen? :D I"m totally confused. Because I tried all possible methods like changing /usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu png's etc
09:44
<Hyperbyte>
For starts, don't modify existing ones, but create a new theme dir
09:44
Something like /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/bakytn/
09:45
In there, copy all files from the 'ltsp' theme, and modify them to your liking
09:46
Then specify "LDM_THEME=bakytn" in your lts.conf
09:46
Run ltsp-update-image
09:46
And then reboot client. :)
09:46
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte thank you sir, will get back with the results in a couple of minutes
09:46
<Hyperbyte>
The LDM login screen should then be your custom theme.
09:46
<bakytn>
Mya I use
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09:47
<bakytn>
May I use jpg files for bacgrkound?
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09:47
<Hyperbyte>
Of course, if you're actually talking about the splash screen (the Ubuntu screen that appears -before- the login prompt, that'll be a different story alltogether)
09:47
No. PNG, and make sure you use the correct filenames (case sensitive).
09:47
<bakytn>
got it! and sure, I mean the splash screen..whent he actual username input is shown
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09:48
<Hyperbyte>
The login screen. :) The splash screen is what appears before login.
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09:48
<bakytn>
ah..I was talking about the login screen..
09:48
sorry for confusing
09:49
<Hyperbyte>
No worries, I didn't get confused. :) Just for your info. :)
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09:53
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte sir! yo rock! :D worked! :D
09:55
Guys!! Is anybody had problems with local printers? Local USB flash drives are working but I can't get my local USb printer working. It's not even recognizing it. How can I debug?
09:55
*did anybody had
09:58
<muppis>
bakytn, get terminal in client and check is there anyone listenin port 9100.
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10:04
<bakytn>
@muppis ok sir, one moment
10:06
@muppis I can't log into the clients shell, Interesting. I tried admin passwords. May be I should enter some default login/password?
10:07
<Hyperbyte>
bakytn, by default, there is no password.
10:07
!screen_02 | echo bakytn
10:07
<ltsp>
bakytn screen_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
10:07
<muppis>
bakytn, there's no one. Try run ltsp-localapps xtrem at servers terminal.
10:07
Or that one ^
10:09
<bakytn>
WHen I am clicking Alt+F2 I'm just seeing blinking cursor on the black page. However when I'm trying to Alt+f1 I'm seeing login prompt and tried various combinations like root without password etc.
10:09
moment
10:10
<muppis>
Check that url and do that for first, then you get root shell at screen 2
10:11
<Hyperbyte>
bakytn, that's normal. There is no root password, which means root login will never work on the client. SCREEN_02=shell in your lts.conf will force an already-logged-in root prompt on display 2 of the client.
10:12
<bakytn>
@Hyberbyte ok reading the link @ltsp provided. I think most of my questions answered there
10:13
<Hyperbyte>
Good. :)
10:20
If the local printer works and is configured correctly in lts.conf, the LTSP client will act as a print server on port 9100. Cups on the server should then interface with that.
10:20
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte, ok, debugging (I successfully logged to screen_02 as root)
10:20
<Hyperbyte>
netstat -lpn | grep 9100
10:21
<muppis>
Process listening that port is jetpipe.
10:21
<Hyperbyte>
If that command returns anything with 'jetpipe' in it, then the client bit works and you need to configure the server (although that should be done automagically as well I believe).
10:22
If not, look at
10:22
!lts.conf | echo bakytn
10:22
<ltsp>
bakytn lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
10:22
<bakytn>
lsusb shows the printer however grep 9100 returning empty line
10:22
it's Canon LBP 1120
10:22
<Hyperbyte>
Little bit down there's a 'printer parameters' section.
10:23
You didn't set anything yet for your printer in lts.conf I assume? :)
10:24
<bakytn>
ok, let me check something. I think I 'm near the solution
10:24
<Hyperbyte>
By the way, you should set the lts.conf setting based on mac address, so it's not set on -all- clients. The lts.conf manpage link above has the answers.
10:25
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte yes I set per mac address, and yes, I previously set some parameters PRINTer related
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<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte so it won't be recognized as local usb printer right? I should then add it as network printer?
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10:41
<Hyperbyte>
Start with the netstat -lpn | grep 9100 on screen 2 on the client
10:41
As long as that doesn't work, there's no point in starting with CUPS configuration.
10:42
<bakytn>
I attached the local pritner and specified the thin clients IP and added it as a network printer. WOrked!!!!
10:42
Thank you very much guys!!!! @Hyperbyte, @ltsp @muppis
10:42
<Hyperbyte>
Hrm, out of curiousity, does netstat -lpn | grep 9100 give any output yet?
10:43
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte ok let me do all he stuff again, I'm curious too :)
10:43
*the stuff
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10:46
<bakytn>
it's returning LISTEN
10:46
<Hyperbyte>
And is it jetpipe or inetd that's listening?
10:46
<bakytn>
I think the problem came from my misunderstanding of how it should work! I didn't know that it should be considered as a network printer. I was trying to add it as local printer and that was the primary reason of my concerns
10:47
it is jetpipe
10:47
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
10:47
Okay. :)
10:47
<bakytn>
sorry guys..but I have another...the most important and final question about LTSP (typing)
10:48
<Hyperbyte>
Don't feel sorry, that's what this channel is for. :P
10:48
Completely offtopic to your issues, but how are you using LTSP? In what environment, and with how many clients?
10:49
<bakytn>
We are planning to use 100 thin clients from the start
10:49
and then move to more and more
10:49
using Linux Mint 11 and latest Ubuntu's LTSP build's
10:50
it's for our local government structure, they were using Windows
10:50
now I am moving them to Open Source solutions like LTSP
10:50
the authenticatoin is going through Samba4 working as primary Domain Controller
10:50
working just great.
10:51
and the final issue I'm experiencing is about the video. It renders very slow! But if I change video output to "XV" it works extremely smooth!! However here comes the problem
10:52
if I try to do any activiy on the windows while the movie is playing...whole session crashes
10:52
I can't tell people "hey please don't do anything while you are wathcing movies" or I am having to set output to "x11"
10:53
<Hyperbyte>
Do you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf?
10:53
<bakytn>
yes I have
10:53
but I think this is not coming from network nor from cpu loads
10:54
I think this is coming from drivers
10:54
it is very strange
10:54
<Hyperbyte>
What video player are you using?
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<bakytn>
Interesting thing is that it doesn't dpeend on video player, I tried VLC, Mplayer, Banshee
10:54
absolutely the same behaviour
10:55
with "XV" everything si quite smooth but crashes with X11 it's slow but doesn't crash :)
10:55
I tried to use my PC as a thin client and it works great with XV and other drivers.
10:56
I guess this is coming from my Thin Client's video controller or something
10:57
<Hyperbyte>
Are you running the video as a local app?
10:57
*video player
10:58
<bakytn>
currently there are no local apps in my envrionenment
10:59
do you think I can try with local apps? is it really possible to launch movie player as a local app?
10:59
<Hyperbyte>
Sure, you can launch anything as a local app
10:59
Added bonus is that the video won't transfer over network.
10:59
Imagine if 10 people start to watch a video at the same time
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11:00
<Hyperbyte>
It'll bring your network to it's knees.
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11:01
<bakytn>
yes but I was planning to store al lthe media including mp3 songs in the samba shares
11:02
I think I also hvae to play with X settings and set specific driver, but not sure how to do it
11:03
<Hyperbyte>
!lts.conf | echo bakytn
11:03
<ltsp>
bakytn lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
11:03
<Hyperbyte>
See XSERVER
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11:04
<bakytn>
yes, two things I will try to do. 1) play with XSERVER 2) install player(s) as a local apps
11:04
thank you guys!
11:05
<Hyperbyte>
You're welcome. :) I assume as payment for the support you have received today, you'll stick around in this channel and help others? ;-)
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11:06
<bakytn>
yes, will do! I now know something about LTSP and surelly can help others.
11:06
<Hyperbyte>
Hehe
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11:06
<Hyperbyte>
Plus you can learn a lot more by sticking around here. Lots of useful knowledge passes by this channel. :)
11:07
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte 100% I was searching for it..I tried to use mailing lists but IRC is really much much more efficient and even more fun.
11:07
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah. :)
11:08
Looking forward to your next question. ;-)
11:09
<bakytn>
;)
11:13
<Hyperbyte>
So what part of government are you setting up LTSP for?
11:13
What department?
11:14
<bakytn>
I am from Kyrgyzstan
11:14
it's in Central Asia near Kazakhstan (Borat's house) and China )
11:15
I can't tell the exact government structure currently because
11:15
this IRC is logged )
11:15
I can tell you by email if you want
11:20
<Hyperbyte>
Nah, that's ok. :)
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11:23
<Hyperbyte>
I just sent you a private message by the way on IRC
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<Hyperbyte>
mhm
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14:39
<redi>
hi I need to enable "LDM_DIRECTX" to "yes". Is there any "howto" for it? Because I cant google any :/
14:40
BTW Ubuntu 10.04
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15:13
<knipwim>
!help lts.conf
15:13
<ltsp>
knipwim: Error: There is no command "lts.conf".
15:13
<knipwim>
!lts.conf
15:13
<ltsp>
knipwim: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
15:13
<knipwim>
!lts.conf | echo redi
15:13
<ltsp>
redi lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
15:13
<Hyperbyte>
knipwim, they left already
15:14
<knipwim>
oh yes
15:14
doh
15:14
<Hyperbyte>
And they're quite silly as well... Google search for "LDM_DIRECTX" returns 5510 results.
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<knipwim>
!seen vagrantc
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<ltsp>
knipwim: vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: * vagrantc waves
15:35
<knipwim>
stgraber: would it be oke to move the 001-set-dist plugin from common to Ubuntu, Debian and Altlinux?
15:35
since those are the only distros using $DIST
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21:39
<abeehc>
wow i can't help but rub update-alternatives the wrong way
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21:40
<Hyperbyte>
Hey bakytn :)
21:41
<bakytn>
@HyperByte hey sir :D just came back
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
21:41
Alkis!
21:41
Hey hey hey! :)
21:41
<alkisg>
Hi Hyperbyte, hi all
21:41
<Hyperbyte>
bakytn, I'm gonna be away from keyboards in the next few days, until next monday. I'll be in Norway on vacation. Others will probably help you though if needed. :)
21:42
<bakytn>
@Hyperbyte currently no help is needed, hoping to help others, but right now I was going to sleep it's too early here already (3:00AM)
21:42* alkisg wishes happy vacations to Hyperbyte
21:42
<bakytn>
see you...
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21:42
<Hyperbyte>
Byebye. :)
21:43
Thanks!
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21:59* vagrantc waves from cascadia
22:02* Hyperbyte opens Google Maps
22:03
<Hyperbyte>
Wait.
22:03
That's your home, isn't it? :P
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<abeehc>
sounds like a mountain range i see daily
22:13
forget update-alternatves; LDM_THEME wins
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23:57
<warren>
Anyone know how to set the default keyboard layout for clients?