IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 July 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<ziroday>
how intergrated is ltsp into xubuntu?
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<ziroday>
how well intergrated is ltsp in any of the *buntu distro's?
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<monteslu>
I hear its pretty good on edubuntu, but I'm a fedora user myself
02:33
hang out, there are ubunutu users that frequent this channel
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<ziroday>
monteslu: thanks
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<ari_stress>
hi all :)
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<cliebow>
Ho!
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<ari_stress>
cliebow: :)
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<cliebow>
what are you workng on?
06:44
<ari_stress>
cliebow: i'm using ltsp5 on feisty, can we prevent user from "shutting down" the server when he exit and click on his ltsp client?
06:45
<cliebow>
have you looked at pessulus?
06:45
<ari_stress>
what's that
06:45
<cliebow>
it is a way of locking down desktop
06:45
<ari_stress>
ok i'm googling it, cooool
06:46
hey, it's said that it's already included in gnome?
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<cliebow>
i cant remember..i typed pessulus at a commandline
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i dont quickly see shutdown
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<ari_stress>
ok
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<cliebow>
wwhy not pop into #edubuntu..
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<ari_stress>
aiyaa.. why i dont think of that?? thanks :)
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<ziroday>
whats best system for built in LTSP that needs no downloads except for disc
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anybody here?
08:31
<ari_stress>
yes
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wazzup
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ziroday: i think so far it's edubuntu
08:38
<ziroday>
wow someones here
08:38
hey
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<ari_stress>
yes
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wazzup
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<ziroday>
um what distro would you reccomend
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to install LTSP without installing
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i mean downloading
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just installs straigth off the dics
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besides edubuntu, coz that never works
08:49
<ari_stress>
ziroday: i highly recommend edubuntu
08:49
oh
08:49
mm..
08:50
so far only edubuntu provides out of disc integration
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<ziroday>
yeah but it never seems to work for me
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it gives me error on Build LTSP Chroot
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its also only in server edition
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which from what i understand has no gui
08:51
<ari_stress>
then you are using edubuntu server, it's ok
08:51
if you want gui, you can install it
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sudo apt-get edubuntu-desktop
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<ziroday>
ok, but the trouble is this setup is being used by a NGO in indonesia
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where internet at best is 0.2mps
08:52
at only works for 2 hrs straight
08:52
<ari_stress>
that's true :)
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well
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yes
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to build the client environment, we need internet access
08:53
<ziroday>
but with edubuntu
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do you need internet access?
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<ari_stress>
i dont think so, but i'm not sure
08:54
i'm using original ubuntu
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<ziroday>
ok if i install the gui, do i have to rebuild ltsp to give all the servers gui
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or does it auto update
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<ari_stress>
automatically
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<ziroday>
ok
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so in theory i could dl the desktop edition and server addtion
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and then specify the desktop as a repo
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and then install gui/
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*?
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<ari_stress>
that's what makes ubuntu so great. for example, i'm using original ubuntu (gnome) right?
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<ziroday>
yeah same :)
08:56
<ari_stress>
all i do is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and voila, i have kubuntu :D
08:56
<ziroday>
ok then i think i understand
08:57
have you ever used edubuntu or xubuntu outta disc LTSP installation?
08:57
<ari_stress>
not yet, i'm still working on ltsp on original ubuntu
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but guess what
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<ziroday>
ok no prob just wondering what was most common issue for LTSP Chroot not building at start
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<ari_stress>
yesterday i install xubuntu-desktop, and now my ltsp client all can open xfce on their desktop :D
08:57
<ziroday>
which happened to me :(
08:58
sweet
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<ari_stress>
ziroday: just make sure you follow the steps correctly
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<ziroday>
ari_stress: yeah no prob. is the Xubuntu and Edubuntu LTSP outta dicd mechanism the same or different?
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*disc
08:59
<ari_stress>
the same
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<ziroday>
hmmm
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<ari_stress>
but we dont have to do a thing with edubuntu
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<ziroday>
yeah
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ok
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<ari_stress>
it install ltsp right out of disk
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<ziroday>
well ive got a friend in Jakarta now, who im going to fedex the discs to and hope it all works
09:00
thanks for everything
09:00
youve been great for listeinig
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<ari_stress>
i'm in jakarta, btw :))
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<ari_stress>
what ngo do you working with?
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<ziroday>
oh you are
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thats awesome
09:01
im with Rachel House , relativily new
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its a orphanage that takes care of terminally ill kid
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*kids
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<ari_stress>
oh
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<ziroday>
and basically makes them as comfortable as possible
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before they die
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<ari_stress>
so sad
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<ziroday>
yeah it is, i just got back
09:03
it shocking that next to the rich isall the poor
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and the internet is SOOOOO slow
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<ari_stress>
you can say that :(
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<ziroday>
so what do use LTSP for?
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<ari_stress>
i've got a client (factory) that want to replace windows on their old desktops, so the solution is ltsp :)
09:06
<ziroday>
ahh similar with us, we got donated a bunch of P3 and P2 with no hopes as standalones
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anyway i gotta go
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great talking to you
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<ziroday>
heres my email, we should talk again - ziroday@gmail.com
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<ari_stress>
ok
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<ziroday>
cya
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<ari_stress>
see you again
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bye
09:07
<ziroday>
bya
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<johnny>
hi folks
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anybody have a link to docs that mention setting up ltsp with dnsmasq where dnsmasq is on another server
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i'm confused my the cornucopia of dhcp options
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s/my/by/
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<dberkholz>
just gotta add the option that points somewhere else for the nfs, right?
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<johnny>
aha.. look.. it's dberkholz :)
17:50
i'm volunteering at a collectively run coffeeshop and i'm attempting to clean up their public terminal setup
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and we have a router running openwrt and dnsmasq
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they run ubuntu terminals already, but obviously the config is not centralized or clean
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dberkholz, yeah i had some doc that mentioned it, but it didn't look obvious how to change it for another server
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<dberkholz>
dhcp-option=17,192.168.1.106:/opt/ltsp/i386
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dhcp-boot=/var/ftpd/pxelinux.0,boothost,192.168.0.3
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those 2 should hook you up; first is nfs, second is pxe
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<johnny>
it's the dhcp boot
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oh.. is that relative to the actual set host not the host running dnsmasq?
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that's what confused me :)
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<dberkholz>
eh? the ip's you stick in there are the ones running the nfs/pxe servers
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<johnny>
yeah.. but i see a path listing
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/var/ftpd/pxelinux.0
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<dberkholz>
that's path on the server
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<johnny>
on the ltsp server
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<dberkholz>
you're telling clients where to get at the stuff they need
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combination of what ip to look, and where to look on that ip
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<johnny>
so boothost is not something to replace
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i guess i need to read the rfc to figure out the formats.. :(
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<dberkholz>
um, no, you can just read the dnsmasq man page
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at least for dhcp-boot
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<johnny>
dnsmaq tells me to do dnsmasq --help dhcp
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for description of the options
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<dberkholz>
boothost is the name of the pxe server, in case you also want to supply that
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<johnny>
but it just prints out like i typed dnsmasq --help
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hmm.. this is definitely a bit more complicated than i hoped :)
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but it didn't get tftp
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<dberkholz>
oh yeah, that's another one.
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try dhcp-option=66,ip
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<johnny>
what about 150 vs 128?
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66 is name
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<dberkholz>
i'm not really sure about the details, because i've always run it all on the same server to keep things easy.
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<johnny>
can't run it on openwrt :(
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<dberkholz>
heh, considered running dns on the ltsp server instead?
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<johnny>
i would prefer not to :)
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<kaos01>
anyone know how to stop X starting up on the console ?
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<iMav>
change your runlevel perhaps?
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