IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 August 2011   (all times are UTC)

00:52
<petre>
stgraber, ping
00:57
<stgraber>
petre: pong
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21:17
<monteslu>
turns out my thin client hardware doesn't do an EL6 i686 chroot
21:17
trying the fedora11 i586 chroot
21:17
<Hyperbyte>
monteslu, probably because EL6 doesn't support anything below i686 anymore
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21:18
<monteslu>
I guess none of the newer kernels do
21:18
<Hyperbyte>
Fedora 11 is horribly outdated though, are you sure that's a good choice?
21:18
!fedora
21:18
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: fedora: LTSP for Fedora is maintained by the K12Linux project. Currently support only goes as far as Fedora 12. An LTSP version for RedHat EL6 and possibly Fedora 14 is in development. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/.
21:18
<monteslu>
well, its just teh chroot
21:18
most apps wont be local
21:19
and I'm on fedora 9 in the lab :)
21:19
for the server
21:19
<Hyperbyte>
Heh. :)
21:19
<monteslu>
I've got like 70 of these epia thin clients I want to keep using
21:20
<Hyperbyte>
I had driver problems with the Fedora 12 Intel module for my thin clients' graphics chip, ended up switching to Ubuntu 11.04
21:20
<monteslu>
I did want to take chrome for a spin as a local app
21:20
<Hyperbyte>
But I probably have a bit newer hardware than you do.
21:20
<monteslu>
yeah, 11.04 has same problem on my thin client hardware
21:21
<Hyperbyte>
Oh? What kind of problem?
21:21
<monteslu>
its kernel doesn't do < i686
21:22
<Hyperbyte>
Really? Ubuntu's kernel doesn't either?
21:22
<bakytn>
what?
21:23
<monteslu>
anything greater than 2.6.35, I think
21:23
<bakytn>
can you explain "it's kernel doesn't do < i686"
21:24
<monteslu>
the epia i586 boards are missing cx8 and cmov instructions
21:24
>2.6.35 builds from fedora and ubuntu wont load
21:25
<bakytn>
ok
21:25
<monteslu>
warren togami has a fedora 11 chroot that I'm hoping loads, which at least will be an improvement on the fedora9 i'm using
21:26
hopefully i can get chrome local on that
21:26
or at least tuxpaint and some games :)
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21:35
<monteslu>
I guess my old disklessworkstations.com 150s are pretty old
21:35
figured this stuff would have gotten a lot cheaper, but hardware got moderately better and price got a little higher
21:37
I've got a bunch of ntavo things too
21:37
looks like ntavo/devonit is dell now :(
21:38
<Hyperbyte>
I only have DLWS 1720's, but I have a much different and much smaller environment than you probably.
21:38
As in, company, not school. :)
21:38
<monteslu>
well, I've got a lab of about ~30, and 40 or some more spread out. so around 70 total
21:39
the 1720s have atoms, so you must be doing alot of local apps?
21:40
<Hyperbyte>
Actually, none at all.
21:40
Well, softphones, to avoid extra network latency.
21:41
Server has dual gigabit, 16 GB ram and AMD Phenom 6-core 3.3ghz... so... I don't really have a need for localapps. :)
21:41
<monteslu>
yeah, plenty of bandwith there
21:42
<Hyperbyte>
For 9 users max, yeah. :)
21:42
Hehe.
21:45
My biggest motivation for using LTSP is the ease of centralization, rather than saving money.
21:45
<monteslu>
I hear that
21:45
mine was both :)
21:45
I set it up 10 years ago, and every year have slowing been adding to this network
21:45
part time volunteer basis
21:50
well, I got the thin clients to boot with fedora 11 chroot
21:50
but yum is broken in it, so I'm gonna have fun trying to install local apps to it
21:51
ewww, not just yum. /proc isn't mounted when i do a "setarch i386 chroot ."
21:53
mount /proc works :)
21:53
<Hyperbyte>
Hrm, setarch i386 chroot?
21:53
Not ltsp-chroot ?
21:53
<monteslu>
yup, just chroot
21:54
<Hyperbyte>
Fedora should have that script as well, does everything for you.
21:54
<monteslu>
might be a differenc in how warren set it up
21:54
<Hyperbyte>
No, I mean
21:54
'whereis ltsp-chroot'
21:54
<monteslu>
not included
21:54
that doesn sound handy though
21:54
<Hyperbyte>
That's nuts.
21:54
Why not?
21:55
<monteslu>
probably an oversight
21:55
this build is really new
21:55
<Hyperbyte>
It's handy. You type 'ltsp-chroot' and it chroots into /opt/ltsp/i386/, mounts /proc/ and /dev/ for you, does the setarch bit...
21:55
And you're ready to go.
21:56
<monteslu>
I'll report it as a bug
21:56
just beta testing stuff right now
21:58
<Hyperbyte>
Ah.
22:03
<monteslu>
tuxpaint works as a local app on these ancient thin clients :)
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<Hyperbyte>
What are their specs?
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<monteslu>
Hyperbyte, 500mhz epia thin clients with 128MB
22:33
and a bunch of 800Mhz that were supposed to have 512, but I just realized the computer teacher never put the new ram chips that I asked her to
22:34
so they're like 96 minuts 8 megs of shared video
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minus
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<monteslu>
bought the new ram sticks like 5 years ago
22:38
I wonder now if I could get some small boxes to replace these old things on the cheap. At least the 500Mhz ones. And have them as chubby clients
22:40
<Hyperbyte>
:o
22:41
<monteslu>
wow frys.com has dual core atom bare bones systems for 159.
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<monteslu>
only missing ram, but can get 2 gigs of so-dimm from newegg for 25 bucks
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