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Channel log from 10 September 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<yoshi__>
hey everyone
06:58
i just install ltsp on ubuntu 9.04
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the client connects an i see de ldm login screen
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but when i login with a username i added on the server
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i pops back to the ldm screen
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and don't give me the gnome desktop
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anyone ? in ubuntu 8.10 it works perfectly
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i installed 9.04 alternate but did aan ltsp apt install
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<alkisg>
yoshi__: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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<yoshi__>
tried that
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didn't work but i the meantime i found the problem
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i toke another monitor and now everything is working fine
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weird
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seems something with resolution or something
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got another question in the mean time:
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i installed firefox and flash plugin as local app with nat stuff in order
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works faboulus
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but should i install shockwave and java jre also as local app ?
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or just on the server
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<ftherese>
all of the port 80 requests seem to be going out over the ltsp server... so there is no way to block the client based on internet port... how to block a single user then?
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is there some kind of packet mangleing or nat going on here?
09:04
how does the ltsp server handle the requests made by the client for internet resources?
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does it communicate internet requests over a specific port for the client?
09:04
because it seems like the ports keep changing... If I block and reboot... it sets a different port
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<Gadi>
yoshi__: if you run firefox as local app, you should install its plugins in the chroot as well
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<bieb>
Gadi: how's it going?
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<Gadi>
ftherese: applications running on the server make requests from the server, local apps make requests from the client
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bieb: not bad - keeping the plates spinning
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<bieb>
Gadi: I hear that... I am trying to finalize plans to make it to BTS
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<Gadi>
nice. sadly, I will have to see your pretty face in the blogs...
09:11
my wife is due with our third on Oct 27th
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<yoshi__>
gadi tx for the tip :)
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<bieb>
Gotcha.. I can see the reason to not make the trip
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<Gadi>
yeah - don't want to give birth in the backwoods of Maine ;)
09:13
<_UsUrPeR_>
is anyone else having a problem connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
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<bieb>
or have to drive like a wild banshee to get back to NY
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<Blinny>
_UsUrPeR_: Yes.
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: LTSP BTS eh? Thinking about getting more involved?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
k
09:14
thx blinny
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: yeah I am.. I cant program.. but am willing to help where I can.. and of course spread the word
09:15
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: how about documentation ... can you write techy? ;)
09:15
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: I will be giving a presentation next June at the Legal Education conference I attend each year about how we used LTSP in our labs
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: have a link?
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: yeah.. one sec
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CAN-o-SPAM: http://w.cali.org/conference/
09:20
We were at Univ of Colorado Law last June.. will be at Rutgers Univ law, in Camden NJ next June
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<Lumiere>
bieb: I hope that doesn't overlap with NECC
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<bieb>
Lumiere: why?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: whats the title of the pres?
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<Lumiere>
I'm sure that NECC would love a presentation on that subject too ;)
09:22
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: I haven't announced it yet.. they wont do a call for speakers until Jan or Feb
09:22
<Lumiere>
(their Open Source Lab uses Revolution Linux's LTSP distro)
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<bieb>
Lumiere: cool
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<ogra>
Lumiere, "Revolution Linux's LTSP distro" ??
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<Lumiere>
or just Revolution Linux
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<ogra>
they use ubuntu at revolutionlinux afaik
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<bieb>
Lumiere: the conference is geared for Law School technology primarily
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<Lumiere>
with LTSP :)
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
Revolutions Distro?
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<Lumiere>
ogra: isn't it based on but not identical to?
09:23* Lumiere was led to believe it
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<ogra>
should be identical
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<Lumiere>
ah
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<ogra>
they might add additional ltsp packages i.e. cluster stuff in the default install
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or/and iTalc
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: let me know if u want/need anything to help ur presentation, we can talk
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ogra: ever used cluster?
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<ogra>
nope
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i havent touched LTSP for a long time apart from adding ARM support
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: sounds great.. I know the guys from Rutgers pretty well and they are big Linux guys.. I may talk to him and see if he can set me up a quick lab.. or some way I can do a live install while I am talking and then login to show how easily it works
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<Gadi>
shout out to all my boys in Camden!
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<bieb>
lol
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
and Gadi raises the roof ... again
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<bieb>
Gadi: its a good group of peeps
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<Gadi>
no doubt
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no diggity even
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: how many attendees last year?
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: I would have to verify..
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
rough estimate?
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<yoshi__>
question: local apps is working perfectly with ubuntu jaunty but i don't have sound anymore ? while my sound was working before when i did't use firefox as local app
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
100 500 1000?
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<bieb>
more than 250.. I will see if I can get the numbers.
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it varies due to location and budget. Next year it will have more east coast schools than this year, since travel budgets have been cut in alot of colleges
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
Ryan52: ping
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<Gadi>
East Coast!
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<bieb>
east siiiide
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
why take sides, when you can be in the middle? Midwest -> Represent :)
09:35
<bieb>
you are Upper mid west..
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<yoshi__>
ok guys come on over and slap me 20 times
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my collega has unplugged the speakers
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aaargggh
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stupid me offcourse sound didn't work
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<Gadi>
yoshi__: I was gonna say "check your colleague"
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;)
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: there were 325 at this years conf
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: k
09:40
Gadi: even though u can't go to BTS, we need you to throw down for some food ... cool? cool? thanks! ;)
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<Gadi>
hehe
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I'll see what I can do
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<Gadi>
too bad you guys eat so damn much
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
hahaha
09:42
that msg comes down from head-master JAM
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bieb: if ur going for sure, register on wiki.ltsp.org for the event
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: I will.. just have to finalize the arrangements.. then I will register
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: ok cool
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<brendan`>
hey all, im cross posting this in #ubuntu as well, but i have an interesting problem... it seems that my either my NFS or NBD daemon on my ltsp server crashes almost every thursday/friday. once it crashes the ltsp clients can no longer connect and the whole server starts becoming unresponsive (down to the point where I can't even login at the console, it hangs right after the motd). does anyone have any clues as what
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could be happening? are there cron scripts that run on thursday or friday that might be causing some havok?
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<elias_a>
Is there some common bug in jaunty alternate cd causing Build LTSP chroot fail?
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I am trying to install a demo server on a laptop and that stage failed twice
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<alkisg>
Do you get an error message?
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E.g. "you only have 1 network card..." etc?
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<elias_a>
Not that kind of error message.
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I only get a red screen saying "Build LTSP chroot failed"
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I have never seen this before.
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<alkisg>
I think at that point you can press alt+ctrl+f2 and see the logs
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...but even if it fails, you can still run ltsp-build-client later on
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<elias_a>
That's what I thought, too.
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<alkisg>
I've seen that error too, but only on beta releases, not with the final
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<elias_a>
I will first upgrade the installation with aptitude and tryi building LTSP again.
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This one is final :/
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<elias_a>
Sorry for the typos... my bandwith is really used at the moment...
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<yoshi__>
you installed the ltsp by chosing in the start the F4 option
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or did you install ltsp with apt-get install ltsp-stand...
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after jaunty was installed ?
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<elias_a>
yoshi__: The first one - using F4 option.
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<yoshi__>
i installed an ltsp today also
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on the alternate jaunty
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but didn't use the F4 option
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after a normal install i installed ltsp with the apt-get install ltsp-stand....
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and then build the client
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and everything works ok
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i have to say i updated as soon as i installed jaunty
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<yoshi__>
and with the client build i used sudo ltspbuildclient
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arch
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i386 copysourceslist
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<yoshi__>
sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --copy sourceslist
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i mean :)
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<yoshi__>
jaunty alternate install is de 64 bit
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<yoshi__>
but the client build is 32 bits
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<elias_a>
I will try when the system has upgraded.
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<yoshi__>
good luck :)
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<ftherese>
can i run an ident server on the thin clients?
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how would that work?
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could it just be on the server?
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or would it have to be in the thin clients for when they use localapps?
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<Mip5>
Howdy folks
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<KrisDouglas>
o/
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<Mip5>
I'm looking to use local apps on my thin clients, and am not sure how to set up my dhcpd.conf
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pastebot
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whoops....
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<KrisDouglas>
Don't know if this is of any use: http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalApps
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<Mip5>
I see this line: option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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Would I just change my config so that everywhere it reads /opt/ltsp it would then read /opt/ltsp_w_localapps ?
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I've been following the docs for localappsjaunty, and it doesn't specify *what* the changes to dhcpd.conf are. They are fairly obvious, but I just want be sure to get it right
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<alkisg>
Mip5, which docs have you been following?
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<alkisg>
There's a wiki page which has too complex instructions, imho..
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<Mip5>
alkisg https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty
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<alkisg>
Mip5: yeah, too complicated
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You'd better just make a backup of your /opt/ltsp/i386, and go ahead and install localapps in the existing one
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No other changes would be necessary...
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<Mip5>
oh - you think that would be good? I guess I could just go and copy back the backup to the original if it failed, huh? Okay - that makes sense.
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<alkisg>
Yeah, if it failed you could rm the new one and mv the old one back to its place
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Mip5: but undo any changes that you made while following that page
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<Mip5>
alkisg - right. I just started down the path by creating the alternate chroot. I can just whack that.... I'm looking for the right command to copy the chroot. Would it be cp -a /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp-backup
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<alkisg>
With a sudo in front, yeah, that sounds about right...
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<Mip5>
thanks
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<Mip5>
It looks like my ltsp server is going to need to do NAT for my thin clients to be able to browse with firefox when run as a localapp. This link isn't working: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT - any ideas?
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<moldy>
Mip5: you might want to consider just not putting your clients on a separate subnet
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Mip5: it might be easier/better than setting up nat. depends on your other requirements.
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<alkisg>
Mip5: I think that the page you said, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT works ok...
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<moldy>
Mip5: btw, i am pretty sure you do *not* need to do nat just to use firefox. simple routing should be sufficient.
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<moldy>
Mip5: unless, of course, you need nat for internet access in general
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<Ryan52>
07:32 < CAN-o-SPAM> Ryan52: ping
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no more CAN-o-SPAM.
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left right before I notice it too :(
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anyways, anybody know CAN-o-SPAM's email address?
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<acidfreeze>
Hello, forgive me for my ignorance.. but if i wanted to beable to have ltsp running without pxe or dhcp would that be possible
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like perhaps like a remote x session where i could connect via a client to the server?
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<vagrantc>
it wouldn't really be LTSP at that point, just remote X.
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<acidfreeze>
ok
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<vagrantc>
unless your OS was still coming over the network.
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<acidfreeze>
well i already have dhcp running on my network, and i wanted to just beable to connect to the virtual machine over the net
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i guess that is remote x . hehe
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<sbalneav>
Ha! Just figgured out how to get irssi to remembe what window to put my channels on!
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I love irssi
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<ubi451_>
I'm running ltsp on ubuntu 8.04 and I seem to be missing ltsp-localapps. Anyone know where I can get it?
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<vagrantc>
newer version of ubuntu
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<lfaraone>
does LTSP need password-based auth to be enabled in the host's SSH settings?
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nubae_: see above
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<Ryan52>
lfaraone: ya
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it connects via ssh
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<lfaraone>
Ryan52: hm. all of my users have weak passwords.
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<Ryan52>
so use cracklib and expire all of their passwords?
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I know that password expiry should work with LTSP, not sure about cracklib (I've never used it with PAM and SSH before)
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<lfaraone>
Ryan52: how can I prompt my users for new passwords on their next login?
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<sbalneav>
Ryan52: It does, I added it because I need it where I am.
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lfaraone: If you simply expire their passwords, ldm will prompt them for new passwords next login.
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<Ryan52>
sbalneav: I know it's supposed to, but I also know that we've broken it before.
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just use normal password expiry stuff (sorry, I dunno how to do that, vagrantc handles it at my LTSP install :P)
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lfaraone: "man chage" might help.
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or might just cause you to screw up and lock everybody out..
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<sbalneav>
man shadow as well
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<Ryan52>
good luck :)
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<lfaraone>
see, I have to create accounts for 100 new students. and I don't want to collect passwords from all of them, so I just set their password to something like "1984compsci!" (not really like that, but about the same level of security)
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<sbalneav>
lfaraone: usermod and passwd -e should help you here
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