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Channel log from 15 March 2013   (all times are UTC)

01:04
<jammcq>
sbalneav: you back yet?
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01:15
<sbalneav>
jammcq: Yep!
01:15
<jammcq>
hey, there he is
01:15
<sbalneav>
Heading out for a walk in a few, how did you make out?
01:15
<jammcq>
ok, I boot the workstation and the lightdm comes up just fine
01:16
<sbalneav>
awesome!
01:16
<jammcq>
but when I log in, it's not launching gnome-session, like I wanted it to
01:16
<sbalneav>
did you drop down the selector there on lightdm and select LTSP?
01:16
<jammcq>
umm, nope, I asked for default
01:17
<sbalneav>
yeah, drop it down, and select LTSP
01:17
see if that helps
01:17
I didn't write anything yet to auto-pick that selection
01:17
<jammcq>
trying
01:17
and you were right about lightdm being slow
01:18
<sbalneav>
I find it waits about 15 seconds or so the first time, but logging back in seems faster
01:18
<jammcq>
hmm, background changed, but I don't really have a session yet
01:18
just a background
01:19
<sbalneav>
did you modify the /usr/share/ltsp-pam/xsession script? I think by default it's launching twm
01:19
<jammcq>
yeah
01:19
by default it's trying to run mate-session
01:19
so I changed it to gnome-session
01:20
<sbalneav>
ah, ok, cool
01:20
<jammcq>
not sure if that's really what I need to run tho
01:20
<sbalneav>
Which version of gnome do you have? gnome-3?
01:21
<jammcq>
whatever installs on wheazy
01:21
and there is a /usr/bin/gnome-session
01:21
<sbalneav>
might want to try installing something bog-simple, like icewm, or the like. Maybe compositing is mucking you up
01:21
yeah, gnome3 I think
01:21
<jammcq>
i'll try icewm
01:21
<sbalneav>
try quickly installing icewm, see if that works.
01:22
That's why I'm lovin' mate. Gnome2 + bug fixes :)
01:22
no compositing, and a sane desktop
01:23
just remember to change that xsession script.
01:23
<jammcq>
yep, changed
01:23
booting
01:23
<sbalneav>
and select "ltsp" on the drop down.
01:23
awesome that you got that far.
01:24
not too many changes needed eh?
01:24
<jammcq>
bah, keyboard not working :(
01:24
I can't even log in
01:24
dunno what happened here
01:25
<sbalneav>
Tomorrow, I'm going to shoot a youtube video, showing off the ltsp work, and MATE on a thin client. stefano-k from MATE is pumped about ltsp now :)
01:25
<jammcq>
oh yeah, make a viral video :)
01:26
<sbalneav>
Getcher keyboard going?
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01:27
<sbalneav>
There went a Ghostly Behind.
01:27
a phantomas :)
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01:27
<sbalneav>
Ba-dum bum!
01:27
<jammcq>
yeah, I had to plug the keyboard into a different usb port. dunno what happened there
01:27
BUt........
01:27
I have a icewm destop :)
01:27
<sbalneav>
Woot
01:28
Nice to know I got something working :)
01:28
<jammcq>
heh
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03:29
<Enslaver>
sbalneav: how does libpam_sshauth determine pamoddir?
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04:09
<Enslaver>
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04:57
<zdgffdgz>
ldm no login?
04:57
help needed
04:58
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: are you able to log into the server via ssh with the same user/password?
04:59
<zdgffdgz>
yes
05:00
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: are you using NFS or NBD?
05:00
<zdgffdgz>
nfs
05:00
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: could you paste the output of "ltsp-info" to a pastebot?
05:01
!pastebin | echo zdgffdgz
05:01
<ltsp>
zdgffdgz pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
05:01
<zdgffdgz>
bash: ltsp-info: command not found
05:02
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: dpkg -l ltsp-server
05:04
<zdgffdgz>
ltsp-server is installed, it has no ltsp-info (debian squeeze)
05:04
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: the ltsp-server from debian squeeze that I uploaded did include ltsp-info
05:05
<zdgffdgz>
strange; var/log/ldm.log says
05:05
expect saw: The authenticity 0f host ..server ip.. can't be established
05:06
RSA key fingerprint is 12:c6...9b:ff.
05:06
Are you sure you want to contnue connecting (yes/no)?
05:06
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: so you're either not running ltsp-server from squeeze...
05:06
zdgffdgz: normally ltsp-update-sshkeys would fix that, unless you're running NBD ...
05:07
<zdgffdgz>
I do have backport installed, I"ll try reinstall squeeze ltsp-server from main debian
05:08
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: just tell me the version...
05:08
<zdgffdgz>
5.2.4-2 is installed
05:08
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: in any case, any of those versions should have ltsp-info, and it would be really useful to troubleshoot what's wrong.
05:10
<zdgffdgz>
bash: /usr/bin/ltsp-info: No such file or directory
05:10
according to synaptic, it should be there
05:11
???
05:13
sorry I was in still in chroot ltsp :-))
05:14
http://pastebin.com/QNrpdkZS
05:16
<vagrantc>
ok, so pretty stock install...
05:17
<zdgffdgz>
from /var/log/ldm.log see http://pastebin.com/Hi0X7YUu
05:18
<vagrantc>
zdgffdgz: do you see user logins in /var/log/auth.log on the server?
05:20
zdgffdgz: and is the user logged in from anywhere else at the same time? you can really only have a single graphical login at a time...
05:20* vagrantc has to go
05:20
<vagrantc>
hopefully someone else can help out the rest...
05:20
<zdgffdgz>
logged in on server
05:23
I can login at client in console and the ssh to server
05:24
and then ssh . . .
05:25
so I think the bug? is ldm
05:30
<vagrantc>
ssh user@server from the console?
05:30
without getting a prompt for key validation?
05:31
<zdgffdgz>
I need key validation, then OK
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05:33
<vagrantc>
sounds like ltsp-update-sshkeys isn't working correctly
05:33
but i really need to get goinng, good luck!
05:33
<zdgffdgz>
Thanks 4 your time!
05:36
I ran ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server, didn't make any difference
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05:46
<zdgffdgz>
ltsp-update-sshkeys twice did the job, can now login as useror root
05:47
no idea what happened but now everything work! Strange..
05:47
Anyhow, I am again proud user of LTSP!!!
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05:52
<zdgffdgz>
vagrantc I made a menu button to tail /var/log/auth.log. Good idea, thanks!
05:52
[exec] (authlog) {sudo xterm -T "authlog" -e tail -n 250 -f /var/log/auth.log} </usr/share/pixmaps/roxterm.xpm>
05:53
in fluxbox
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09:15
<warren>
Did Enslaver get all his changes into ltsp upstream?
09:15
<Enslaver>
most of them
09:16
<warren>
dude, you shouldn't be awake now
09:16
<Enslaver>
Crap you're right :(
09:16
well since i am
09:17
This is the no sleep hackathon right?
09:18
<alkisg>
Ouch, it looks like our code will become full of zombie processes then
09:18
<Enslaver>
not if we fill the scripts full of sleep's
09:19
warren: BTW how do we get these rpms into EPEL?
09:19
<bakytn>
lol
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10:05
<vnc786>
on fat clients (ubuntu 12.04 64 bit) when printing documents some time it stops printing, after successful printing some documents for some time...so i have to closed the libresuite and again i have to give print than it works back ...
10:06
network printer is added in cups and at server it show that is has successfully completed print job and in logs too
10:08
my collegue told about spooling should happen at server side i want to know about this
10:08
can any one help/guide me on this ....?
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10:18
<Hyperbyte>
vnc786, this seems unrelated to LTSP. Better try a CUPS specific channel, or #ubuntu
10:25
<vnc786>
okay I will but just to share if let say file.doc is not able to print from fat clients and then if that file is taken at server (ubuntu12.04) it is able to print...so just confuse whether it is libreoffice issue or cups
10:43
<bakytn>
vnc786, could it be network issues?
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10:45
<vnc786>
bakytn, don't think so ..because 7 out of 10 doc gets print normally ..
10:45
<bakytn>
7 out of 10? wow
10:46
30% fail is too big
10:46
what kind of doc?
10:46
full of images?
10:46
too big document, old printer?
10:47
<vnc786>
hp laserjet p1505n
10:49
<bakytn>
try different types of docs
10:49
is it LO problem? try to print .txt files
10:49
from gedit, kate or whatever
10:49
localize the problem
10:50
<vnc786>
type of files 1.plain word file(some times) 2. .doc file with some small images(most of time) 3. excel files etc..
10:51
.txt files gets print easily
10:51
<bakytn>
anyway it doesn't seem like LTSP related
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11:16
<alkisg>
vnc786: to sum up: server prints anything fine. Fat clients print txt files fine, but they hang 30% of the times while printing libreoffice documents?
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11:29
<vnc786>
yes.... hang means it doesn't print respective file...for that moment
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11:36
<vnc786>
alkisg: want to narrate a todays scene: user got a file name accfile.xls 1. it was not printing 2. i closed the accfile.xls and 3. then i gave print command again & it worked...
11:37
<alkisg>
vnc786: what's the output of `lpstat -s` on a fat client?
11:37
Or lpstat -t
11:40
<vnc786>
http://pastebin.com/34mU89z3
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11:43
<alkisg>
vnc786: is 192.168.0.10 the ip of your printer, or of your ltsp server?
11:43
<vnc786>
printer
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11:47
<pi_monk>
Hi highvoltage
11:47
A followup to yesterdays talk on ltsp and wol
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11:48
<alkisg>
vnc786: What did you do to share your printer? E.g. did you do anything in the chroot? Put anything in lts.conf? Did anything to your server configuration? Also, the output of `cupsctl` on your fat client...
11:48* alkisg has heard again of such printing problems from some teachers here, but was unable to reproduce them
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11:50
<pi_monk>
Had to move /sbin/shutdown to /run/, copy umount, shutdown, reboot and ifconfig there too and do /run/ifconfig eth0 down;/run/umount -a;/run/shutdown
11:51
nbd got unmounted, nic went down nicely, and after system power down wol works on ltsp clients just fine
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11:53
<alkisg>
pi_monk: so if you just run `ethtool -s eth0 wol g` while the client is running, and then shut it down normally, it doesn't wake up on lan anymore?
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11:58
<vnc786>
after setting my ltsp server what i did for printer 1. (on server)download driver for hp laserjet p1505n--> hplipopensource.com and 2. i did nothing in lts.conf it just got printer on fat clients...http://pastebin.com/bwDrLa7K
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12:13
<pi_monk>
alkisg: ltsp client wol didn't work for classrooms I roll out because its on netextreme nics with tg3 driver and that one requires that the nic be brought down properly and powered off before the system is powered off - else wol wont work
12:14
and ltsp clients are powered off without going through the init shutdown levels, its just hardcoded somewhere in ldm to call /sbin/shutdown -h now and that is it.
12:14
anyway ltsp client cannot properly bring down the nic because root filesystem is on the network
12:15
after unmounting /dev/nbd0 there is no way to call /sbin/ifconfig
12:16
and /sbin/shutdown - unless you first copy those somewhere
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12:25
<alkisg>
pi_monk: in 10.04, ltsp clients did call shutdown -fp, but not they no longer do that
12:26
They properly run all shutdown initscripts up until the one that disconnects nbd-client
12:27
And they're using the linux kernel reisub feature for reboot/shutdown
12:28
So I'm wondering if your issue is because the WOL feature wasn't activated in your NIC, or if it's because of what you said. And if it is, what script "powers off" the NIC? ifconfig is deprecated afaik...
12:30
vnc786: so from what I see, you enabled printer sharing on the server, and left the clients with CUPS_SERVER=$LDM_SERVER, i.e. the ltsp server
12:30
So you're actually using the server as a print spooler
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12:35
<pi_monk>
alkisg:
12:36
I'm using 12.04 and the clients dont seem to use any either /etc/init.d/halt nor any other scripts so after looking long and hard for a script which actually powers down the system and finding none I just went ahead and substituted /sbin/shutdown
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12:38
<alkisg>
pi_monk: /usr/share/ltsp/nbd-disconnect powers down the system
12:38
It's called from /etc/init.d/nbd-client
12:38
<pi_monk>
WOL was activated, it worked with edubuntu livecds, edubuntu locally installed, win xp, unless the system got its power cut
12:38
<alkisg>
And it tries to wait as long as it can for other services
12:38
<pi_monk>
Ah. Thanks
12:38
<alkisg>
What I'm asking is:
12:38
<pi_monk>
will have another look.
12:38
<alkisg>
if you run the ethtool command I wrote above,
12:39
and then unplug the power,
12:39
does wol work?
12:39
Or if you run the ethtool command and poweroff from ltsp normally...
12:39
without your changes
12:39
<pi_monk>
ethtool shows wol enabled, wol works if a system shuts down/deconfigures nic before power down
12:39
<alkisg>
What "deconfigures" the nic?
12:40
<pi_monk>
ifconfig eth0 down
12:40
<alkisg>
What calls that?
12:40
<pi_monk>
beats me
12:40
<alkisg>
What state does ethtool report?
12:40
<pi_monk>
probably /etc/init.d/networking
12:40
g
12:40
<alkisg>
grep -r ifconfig /etc/init.d ==> nothing there
12:41
I think the best idea about shutdown would be to fallback to the initramfs
12:41
I.e. reload it from /boot/initrd* and chroot to it before shutting down
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12:41
<pi_monk>
tried to but had no success
12:42
how does one fall back into the initramfs anyway?
12:43
<alkisg>
But anyway at the point where nbd-disconnect issues the kernel trigger for shutdown, we could easily call an ifconfig eth down there
12:43
I just can't understand why that would work
12:44
...and I also can't see what does that on normal shutdown, on non-ltsp systems...
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12:47
<pi_monk>
I'm looking through upstart and not getting it, but it must be there somewhere
12:47
I just disabled /etc/init.d/networking on local install, rebooted and wol gone
12:47
reenabled, rebooted x2, wol back again
12:49
its about that driver mostly - tg3
12:49
<alkisg>
if [ -e /etc/iscsi/iscsi.initramfs ]; then
12:49
log_warning_msg "not deconfiguring network interfaces: iSCSI root is mounted."
12:49
Wow, iscsi.initramfs...
12:49
<pi_monk>
nic wont start on wol if tg3 is not properly downed before power off
12:49* alkisg thinks iscsi might avoid all those nbd problems :)
12:50
<alkisg>
I've heard about your problem numerous times, I don't think it's tg3 specific
12:50
<pi_monk>
perhaps
12:50
a lot of broadcom chips are from the same die
12:50
so must share some problems
12:52
<alkisg>
Basically networking calls ifdown -a
12:53
(02:47:31 μμ) pi_monk: I just disabled /etc/init.d/networking on local install, rebooted and wol gone ==> can you retry that, but run ifdown -a before reboot?
12:53
I.e. to verify that the ifdown -a call makes the difference...
12:54
<pi_monk>
ifdown -a on ltsp client does not work - says "eth0 is not configured or configured manually" or some such
12:54
<alkisg>
"on local install"
12:55
<pi_monk>
Ah. Just a sec
12:56
<alkisg>
On an ltsp client, maybe `ifdown eth0; echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger` would help...
13:04
<pi_monk>
alkisg: ifdown -a says "interface eth0 not configured", ifconfig eth0 down - before shutdown with /etc/init.d/networking disabled makes wol work
13:06
another thing, ltsp really does not seem to use kernel's reisub because removing /sbin/shutdown and shutting down client from gui makes the client return to ldm login screen
13:07
and if I understand correctly, reisub does not need no executables in /sbin/, no halt no shutdown no poweroff
13:07
what exactly is this reisub?
13:09
<alkisg>
"shutting down client from gui makes the client return to ldm login screen" ==> thin clients sessions are on the server
13:10
So you can't shut the client down from the session without tricks
13:10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
13:10
Good finding about the ifconfig eth0 down... can you file a bug report about that in upstream ltsp?
13:10
!ltsp-bug
13:10
<ltsp>
ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
13:12
<pi_monk>
sure, will bug but could it be just the way edubuntu's fat clients are setup that messes it so?
13:12
crap, forgot to say that it's a fat client
13:12
:)
13:12
<alkisg>
It doesn't matter
13:12
The boot file system does matter, nbd vs nfs vs iscsi etc
13:13
And the distro matters a bit, but all the workarounds are upstream in ltsp anyway
13:15* alkisg tests in an hp1500...
13:16
<alkisg>
ethtool: wake-on: g
13:16
poweron => fine
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<jammcq>
good morning
13:16
<alkisg>
Hmm so no I can't reproduce it
13:16
Good morning jammcq
13:17
pi_monk: Let me try without the ethool -s wol g command...
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<pi_monk>
alkisg: dont bother with ethtool, mine always shows wol: g
13:20
g'morning
13:20
<alkisg>
pi_monk: I've seen several cases with the ethtool command is required
13:21
<pi_monk>
not in my case, but it's in my shutdown script anyway, for good measure
13:21
also acpitool -W 7 (#7 is my nic's id)
13:21
<alkisg>
Calling `ethtool -s eth0 wol d` here did disable wol
13:22
<pi_monk>
what's the nic in your hp?
13:22
<alkisg>
Let me check..
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13:29
<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:32
<Dandanio>
hello
13:33
<jammcq>
hello Dandanio
13:33
<Dandanio>
new here, issues, simple probably, but, anyone willing to help?
13:33
<alkisg>
!ask
13:33
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
13:33
<Dandanio>
s/but,/but/
13:33
<jammcq>
just tell us the problem
13:33
<Dandanio>
lol
13:34
allrighty.
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<Dandanio>
Installed Ubuntu 12.04 from alternate, asked it to install LTSP for me. Server is on vmware farm. Client is Diskless Workstation 1720 (Clientron e820, Atom N270, 1GB, diskless), does not boot. 7th console shows: Negotiation: ..size = 3925604163MBError: Exported device is too big for me. Get 64-bit machine :-(
13:36
(client built is i386)
13:37
<vagrantc>
i've seen that error before ... that NBD error is misleading ...
13:37
<alkisg>
grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server ==> to pastebin.com
13:37
Hey vagrantc :)
13:37
<Dandanio>
ooh?
13:37* vagrantc waves to alkisg
13:38
<Dandanio>
alkisg: http://pastebin.com/3C9J3RCf
13:39
vagrantc: That's what I was thinking...
13:39
wait, let me do a screenshot of the client.
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<alkisg>
ls -lh /opt/ltsp/images; grep ltsp /etc/ltsp/*dhcp*; grep -w -m 1 append /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/*/pxelinux.cfg/default
13:45
<Dandanio>
here is a literal screenshot: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12828399/Photo%20Mar%2015%2C%209%2042%2058%20AM.jpg
13:46
alkisg: http://pastebin.com/ZWd4bSfz
13:46
<jammcq>
is that a 39GB image?
13:46
<Dandanio>
it is what alternate creates
13:46
I haven't added a single package to it
13:46
12.04 LTS 64-bit alternate to be exact
13:47
<alkisg>
(03:36:42 μμ) Dandanio: (client built is i386) ==> it appears you have both builds
13:47
<vagrantc>
as i said, the error is misleading ... it's either a configuration problem or a bug in NBD
13:47
<alkisg>
And you're using the amd64 one
13:47
<Dandanio>
Am I? O_o
13:47
hold on
13:47
<alkisg>
See your pastebin
13:47
<Dandanio>
allright, I knew the default was 64-bit, but it did not work (Atom N270), so I built a 32-bit and repointed my dhcp
13:48
s/amd64/i386/ is literally that I did
13:48
<jammcq>
I thought an Atom would handle 64-bit
13:48
<alkisg>
Line 6 in your pastebin:         filename "/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0";
13:49
<Dandanio>
jammcq: hm, http://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB
13:49
not really
13:49
alkisg: hm... weird
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<Dandanio>
hold on
13:49
how do I fix it? edit that file?
13:50
<alkisg>
Yes, and restart dhcpd
13:50
<jammcq>
hmm
13:50
<Dandanio>
ah
13:50
I am using dhcp on a separate host
13:50
it is not that host
13:50
<vagrantc>
yeah, the atom n270 is definitely not 64-bit
13:51
<jammcq>
ok, i've got a Atom D525 that is 64-bit
13:51
<alkisg>
Dandanio: try adding break=mount in pxelinux.cfg/default
13:51
<jammcq>
different cpu I guess
13:51
<alkisg>
And then `cat /proc/cmdline` on the client when it boots
13:51
So that you see the kernel command line, if it uses amd64 or not etc
13:52
<Dandanio>
ok, sec
13:54
booting
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<Dandanio>
splash...
13:55
<alkisg>
pi_monk: # lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet
13:55
00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 78)
13:55
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II] Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235 [1106:0102]
13:55
Kernel driver in use: via-rhine, Kernel modules: via-rhine
13:56
WOL works fine on this one without hacks
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<pi_monk>
alkisg: good for you. I'm quite confident that the need to bring the nic down for wol is not something common among nics. r8169 certainly does not need it and can wake up my rack even after brutal cordal disconnect.
13:59
a poweredge with another broadcom nic does not wol-start after ac loss so lets blame broadcom :)
13:59
<alkisg>
pi_monk: I've heard reports about wol not working in a lot of schools, so I'm guessing it's not limited to broadcom
13:59
But it's nice to have a workaround for tg3 in mind
13:59
It might work in other chipsets too
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<Enslaver>
Think there will be time today to go over whats left of the red hat part?
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14:38
<pi_monk>
Anybody know what will be the DE after gnome-fallback is gone?
14:38
the default I mean?
14:39
<sbalneav>
So, as a lark, I installed slim into the chroot.
14:39
changed the default display manager from lightdm to slim
14:40
<jammcq>
yeah.... ?
14:40
<sbalneav>
all I had to do was drop another 50-slim-pam script into the startup to rewrite the pam config
14:40
and a minor amount of tweaking in /etc/slim.conf, since you have to manually specify what sessions you want to run.
14:40
but it works awesome
14:41
<jammcq>
hmmm
14:41
any notes so I can try it?
14:41
<sbalneav>
sure, I'll throw some stuff into the wiki a bit later.
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<sbalneav>
As well, I fiddled with the remote X session script a bit.
14:42
So, if I leave the "-nolisten tcp" option in the slim config, all the X happens over ssh tunneling.
14:43
if I enable tcp in the slim.conf, the remote X session script detects that the server's listening on port 6000, and sets DISPLAY accordingly, like LDM_DIRECTX=True.
14:43
so that's awesome.
14:44
So, people running Gnome can use lightdm, people running K can have KDM as their login manager, etc.
14:44
very nice.
14:45
<jammcq>
and people that just want a fast simple DM can run slim :)
14:45
<sbalneav>
Heck, you can run xdm if you like the retro look :)
14:46
<jammcq>
i'd be fine with that
14:47
<sbalneav>
meh. One problem. Slim doesn't support password aging; looks like they're not fully implementing the pam callback mechanism.
14:48
<jammcq>
ah, that's a problem
14:50
<sbalneav>
So long as you're not doing password aging, it's fine.
14:51
for you and I it's no good :)
14:51
<muppis>
I think my job for today is done. Got ssh and root enabled clients and runned at server: for i in `seq 30 250`; do ssh root@192.168.0.$i poweroff; done
14:51
That includes my client as well.
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19:23
<Dandanio>
!sound
19:23
<ltsp>
sound: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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19:36
<Enslaver>
Now heres the million dollar question, do i spend my time writing documentation for the rhel release or do i use that time to make gui configuration menus?
19:37
<jammcq>
docs
19:37
<Enslaver>
Also I pushed up rev 2467 and its ready for review
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<jammcq>
the best contribution I ever made to LTSP was the docs
19:39
<Enslaver>
I personally never got around to reading the ltsp-4.2 docs, i just kinda installed that ltsp-utils rpm and away i went
19:39
I will put together some preliminary documents for the release, hopefully that will get people started
19:40
jammcq: hows your centos install?
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<Dandanio>
can someone push me in the direction of getting sound on 1720 to work? that wiki link is broken
19:40
and it does not "just work"
19:41
<Enslaver>
Dandanic: What do you have for SOUND_DAEMON?
19:41
<jammcq>
Enslaver: I don't have one yet
19:42
I need to load up Centos on a machine and haven't found the time yet
19:42
<Enslaver>
Well, grab Scientific Linux, it's much much better IMO
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<Dandanio>
Enslaver: I can't really decide what to put there
19:48
i just read that SOUND=Y should automagically work...
19:48
(my first day with LTSP, can't you see? :P)
19:49
<Enslaver>
SOUND_DAEMON=pulse is what i would suggest
19:50
<Dandanio>
ok, pulse I will use
19:51
any additional config?
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20:32
<gbaman>
Hey, I have a rather interesting problem, when trying to boot a client off a 12.04 edubuntu server, i get this error "Exported device is too big for me. Get 64-bit machine" The machine in question is a 64 bit machine (bit running the 32 bit client)
20:32
any ideas?
20:39
?
20:41
<alkisg>
Usually a configuration problem in nbd, or a bug in nbd
20:42
check pxelinux.cfg/default, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, and /etc/nbd-server/*
20:44
cyberorg: did you find AoE more stable than NBD in general or wrt network disconnections/reconnections in particular?
20:45
<Dandanio>
gbaman: had this problem this morning 32-bit client/64-bit server (ubuntu 12.04 alternate). switched to 32-bit/32-bit and all is well
20:45
couldn't figure out what was wrong
20:46
<gbaman>
i think i have fixed it, but my 64 bit client still is booting 32 bit os..
20:47
i am quite new to this, is there a way to have it detect which to use?
20:47
<alkisg>
You have 2 chroots?
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<gbaman>
and now it is just sitting there with the background after i logged in...
20:48
<Dandanio>
since it is also my 1st day with ltsp so I was stumped this morning
20:49
<gbaman>
i am not having much luck with this
20:49
<Dandanio>
i reinstalled 32-bit alternate and I am quite happy
20:50
<gbaman>
i needed to use an external DHCP server
20:50
so couldnt follow the normal steps :(
20:51
nope, it is just getting stuck now
20:52
either that or it is just really slow
20:53
heres a question, is there a log file I can go look at to see why this client is hanging?
20:54
i have been unable to find a good log file for ltsp so far other than syslog for tftp stuff
20:56
<gvy>
alkisg, re your question four days ago: caught cold and was essentially offline last week, sorry for having missed just about everything
20:57
<alkisg>
gvy: np, hope you're better now, but you'll have to quote the question too, I don't remember it :)
20:59
Ah, was it about the hackathon? /me was away for most of it as well..
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21:00* gbaman wonders if anyone knows an answer to his logs question?
21:00
<gvy>
alkisg, yup
21:01
<alkisg>
gbaman: desktop errors in linux are usually logged in ~/.xsession-errors
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<gbaman>
where is /.xsession-errors ?
21:03* gbaman = quite new to linux
21:04
<ogra_>
in your home dir
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<gbaman>
ok, now i have it all set up, i created a new account on the server and try to log into it now, i now get no response from server, restarting, any ideas?
21:47
if i log in with the admin account created before, it works fine but anything else does not
21:47
<vagrantc>
can you ssh to the server with the same username and password? what desktop environment is installed on the server?
21:50
<gbaman>
i just tried using ssh to the server using the account, works fine
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<gbaman>
and there we go
21:53
tried using unity 2d
21:53
and it worked fine...
21:53
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: you could probably use "ltsp-chroot" instead of: "chroot /opt/ltsp/arch; mount -t proc proc /proc; export LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false" :)
21:53
<gbaman>
weird
21:54
<vagrantc>
gbaman: that's pretty normal these days, unfortunately...
21:55
gbaman: a few key desktop environments, namely gnome3 and unity, don't tend to work as thin clients
21:55
<gbaman>
well, i can live with that
21:55
<vagrantc>
trying something like LXDE or XFCE seem to work reasonably well
21:55
or if unity-2d works...
21:55
or gnome-fallback
21:56
<gbaman>
ok, cool, i am happy, it works :)
21:56
thanks guys
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: got libpam-sshauth packages building with the module in /lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)/security/
22:30
sbalneav: though they're not fully multi-archable because of the files in /usr/bin/
22:39
sbalneav: pushing a minor fix to the manpage, and some more debian packaging...
22:48
sbalneav: and new packages uploaded.
22:48
sbalneav: hopefully your last commit was finished :)
22:49
guess i was able to do something useful during the hackfest after all...
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