IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 17 April 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<amnesia>
sup
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<mole1962>
q
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<komunista>
hi all
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<komunista>
some days agou someone write to me about plenty of 4 GB RAM for 15 gnome sessions
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but I have problem with this
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can someone point me to some docs, in order to find the my problem?
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<markit>
hi, I'm trying kubuntu 10.04 with ltsp. Should audio work "out of the box" (old SB16 installed) or there is some special config for clients? AFAIK, recent ltsp should handle local "devices" by default
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<myjess>
Hi, anyone in the channel that can hekp a noob out please?
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Assistance from the great and the good please.
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ltsp problem on 9.10
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using dnsnasq as dhcp proxy.
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gets ubuntu loading circle then gives lease , but comes back Error: failed to connect to NBD server.
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Any help appreciated?
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<markit>
myjess: hi, I guess you did not setup dnsmasq apropriately
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myjess: still there?
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I use dnsmasq too, we can check the setup
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<myjess>
sorry, it was so long for anyone to reply I have been trying to get thjis working. Wife now has laptop that I was trying to boot
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so I am trying to get bridged adapter working in virtuialbox on my windows 7 main computer. Hopefully then I can uise the virtual machine.
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I don;t know if the boot over network will work on a Nat'd vm.
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<markit>
myjess: in any case, let's revise the key part of the config
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myjess: do you use dnsmasq on the same host where ltsp is installed? will it do as tftp server also? (that's my configuration I can help about)
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myjess: take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/YZcVXfCR
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<myjess>
i have dnsmaasq setup as the tftp in a conf file, apologies but I cannot remember which conf file I have that in. I think it is set in /etc/dnsmasq/ltsp.conf
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I think I know what might cvause it. I have all this installed on my netbook which has wifi and wired. Maybe I should turn off wifi!
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<markit>
myjess: dnsmasq setup is in /etc/dnsmasq.conf
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I can't help you further, I'm busy now, but in that pastebin there is all you need to have it work (on the dnsmasq part, of course)
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<markit>
Q. I'm trying kubuntu 10.04 with ltsp. Should audio work "out of the box" (old SB16 installed) or there is some special config for clients? AFAIK, recent ltsp should handle local "devices" by default
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<vagrantc>
kde doesn't support local devices very well.
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<johnny>
sound isn't considered a local device in ltsp parlance markit
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<vagrantc>
or ltsp's local device support doesn't integrate with KDE.
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<johnny>
but vagrant is write about what he said otherwise tho
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<vagrantc>
markit: sound should work out of the box if KDE is configured to use alsa.
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<markit>
I can't test it wince has too low ram to run kde4
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with a live distro
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<vagrantc>
there's a bug report about ltspfs and KDE: http://bugs.debian.org/575031
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someone who wants it to be supported who knows their way around KDE will have to add support.
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<markit>
vagrantc: I've google further regarding that problem, and could also be that the user needs to belong to a certain group to be notified
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<johnny>
markit, you should probably take your kde related questions to the ltsp-discuss list
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<vagrantc>
markit: last i talked to some KDE developers, it needs to have the ltspfs mounts recognized by hal (and whatever replaces hal).
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<johnny>
vagrantc, that's udev
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<vagrantc>
johnny: that's this week.
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just wait another month, it'll be something else.
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<johnny>
that's not true at all :)
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more like 2 years
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that's how long the idea has been in genesis
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they did rename the dbus part of it tho
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twice
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devicekit-disks to udisks
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<markit>
but I'm not sure and had more severe problems to look at at the moment
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(I'm in a hurry to install this damn ltsp server in the school)
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anyone here using italc by chance?
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<johnny>
if you are in such a hurry.. wipe kde and just use gnome
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you just won't get kde help here
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<vagrantc>
gnome's your best bet if you want everything to "just work".
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<johnny>
not that we have any particular bias against kde, it's just that none or few of the developers use kde
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or the other folks who help out as well
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<vagrantc>
i think LXDE actually has the same issue as KDE as far as local devices, so i might try to look into the issue from an LXDE standpoint, at which point KDE should be easy-ish to fix.
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<johnny>
vagrantc, well once udisks is in most distros.. the need for any special handling should disappear
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<vagrantc>
i suspect it might be tricky to implement, though ... given non-root users the ability to send udev events sounds a might bit dangerous.
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<johnny>
just ask davidz vagrantc
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<markit>
johnny, vagrantc: you keep suggesting me to drop kde for gnome, and I understand the spirit of your suggestion and agree is more reasonable
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<johnny>
only because we can't help you with kde
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<markit>
but human spirit often prefer follow their ideals and be not so "reasonable" ;)
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<johnny>
then either hack it up
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and figure it out
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<markit>
so I thank you a lot for tips helps and suggestion you can give me anyway
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<johnny>
or talk on the list :)
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<markit>
without you to feel "frustrated" if you can't solve some of my issues
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<vagrantc>
these issues with KDE keep coming up, yet the energy to actually resolve the issue doesn't... so it's a little frustrating.
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<markit>
johnny: if everyone gives up and goes to gnome, at the end ltsp will become a "gnome only" project, that is not good for FOSS
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brb, wife's calling :)
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<johnny>
markit, then get some folks who use kde to fix it
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<markit>
vagrantc: kde developers are really a small team, I guess
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maybe one day I will learn C++ and join ;)
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<jammcq>
howdie
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