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Channel log from 9 January 2019   (all times are UTC)

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05:27
<ZAJDAN>
yeees...via 'dbus-launch epoptes' it works
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13:22
<mwalters>
oh cool, I can use this too on my remote servers!
13:22
(without having to launch the VM viewer)
13:22
thanks quinox ;)
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13:39
<alkisg>
If your master server has a static IP, you can set your other servers as epoptes-clients of the master server. Then you can control them with a single click from within the master epoptes.
14:04
(or even a dynamic ip with dyndns etc)
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14:26
<ZAJDAN>
alkisg-> are You here?
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14:29
<JuJUBee>
Just installed fresh server (xubuntu 18.04) with LTSP. Followed docs for chrootless and dual nic. I am installing on VM where one nic will be internet and other will be local LAN. After restart the sch-scripts ran but second nic does not have IP and first is connected to internet.
14:30
<alkisg>
ZAJDAN: not all the time, but I look at the channel a few times per day
14:31
JuJUBee: you're supposed to put a static ip on the second nic from network-manager
14:31
Create a static IP connection and set it to 192.168.67.1
14:33
<JuJUBee>
alkisg, my bad, missed that. Thanks
14:33
Can that be changed to a different network? I currently use 192.168.6.0/24 inside my LAN
14:51
<mwalters>
alkisg: from what I can gather, I just need to make "server" resolvable to my "master" server on the remote servers?
14:51
(resolvable to my "master" epoptes server)
14:54
<alkisg>
mwalters: put this https://termbin.com/t3ry in your remote servers, in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/20sch-scripts, and chmod +x it. Change the ip to your master server external ip, and port-forward port 789 if needed.
14:54
JuJUBee: if you grep all the code for 192.168.67 and replace it, yes, but it's not configurable
14:54
E.g. check the sch-scripts script that you downloaded; the .67 there needs to be replaced a few times
14:55
<JuJUBee>
OK, no biggie, more hassle than its worth
14:55
I only have a few other static IPs that will need changing.
14:59
Just rebooted server and booted a client, client doesn't have internet. Is the script in if-up supposed to insert the iptables rule to masquerade?
15:02
<alkisg>
Yes
15:02
Can the client ping the server;
15:02
Can it ping 8.8.8.8;
15:02
Does it get a reply with `hosts www.google.com`?
15:02
<JuJUBee>
Yes, ping server and 8.8.8.8
15:03
<alkisg>
Then nat works
15:03
Does dns work?
15:03
I.e. host www.google.com
15:05
<JuJUBee>
No, Not Found: 2(SERVFAIL)
15:05
<alkisg>
There are many ways to configure dns, which one did you choose?
15:06
Did you run ltsp-config dnsmasq --enable-dns?
15:06
Did you put DNS_SERVER in lts.conf?
15:06
<JuJUBee>
ltsp-config dnsmasq --no-proxy-dhcp
15:06
as per directions
15:07
<alkisg>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu => Additionally, you may choose to append --enable-dns in the commands below, to configure dnsmasq to act as a DNS server as well, which will then speed up DNS lookups and allow you to easily blacklist certain sites if you need to. If you don't, you might need to define something like DNS_SERVER="8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" in lts.conf.
15:07
These are the directions :)
15:07
Let me paste the last part, I don't know if IRC cut the long line there,....
15:07
If you don't, you might need to define something like DNS_SERVER="8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" in lts.conf.
15:09
<JuJUBee>
Is it still ok to use --no-proxy-dhcp?
15:09
<alkisg>
Of coursre
15:11
<JuJUBee>
So now I need to ltsp-update-image ? or not needed when editing the lts.conf?
15:11
<alkisg>
Are you doing both options now?
15:12
Both running ltsp-config AND putting DNS_SERVER in lts.conf?
15:12
Choose only ONE of them
15:12
No need to run ltsp-update-image in any case
15:12
<JuJUBee>
I only added DNS to lts.conf
15:12
<alkisg>
Why did you ask this? (05:09:19 μμ) JuJUBee: Is it still ok to use --no-proxy-dhcp?
15:12
OK, if you added dns in lts.conf, reboot the client
15:12
It should now work
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15:26
<JuJUBee>
Yep, thanks a ton.
15:32
Im running the update-image since I installed a new package. Im getting a bunch of "unrecognized xattr prefix system.posix_acl_..." messages. Read online it is nothing to worry about? Is that correct
15:35
<alkisg>
Indeed
15:39
<JuJUBee>
ok
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15:41
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
!greeter
15:41
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'greeter', but I do know about these similar topics: 'greek'
15:43
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
im having an issue where i cant update the LTSP logo on the login screen ive updated the themes and changed the default symlink to point to the LTSP theme but none of the changes ive made are being put into effect after updating the image
15:47
and any google searches give me nothing appart from "works fine for me"
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16:03
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
!ldm
16:03
<ltsp>
ldm: LDM is the LTSP Display Manager, required for LTSP thin/fat clients, because it authenticates the users to the server via SSH.
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16:21
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
i cant seem to update LDM at all
16:32
<alkisg>
TheFlyingCrocodi: what's the output of `sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
16:42
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
No LSB modules are available. https://termbin.com/m0r3
16:43
<alkisg>
TheFlyingCrocodi: which of the chroots are you trying in?
16:44
Also, are you trying to use the chroots, or are you running `ltsp-update-image -c /` which then creates the image out of the server / ?
16:44
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
armhf is the most important one the amd64 is just me testing different clients
16:44
<alkisg>
Because your installation is a bit of a mess, it looks like you're trying to do it in many different ways
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16:44
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
im not adding -c but yes im updating the image
16:45
<alkisg>
So, you're booting raspberry pis and they have the old logo?
16:45
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
yep
16:45
<alkisg>
Or are you testing with amd64 now?
16:45
OK. Are you using epoptes?
16:45
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
yes
16:46
<alkisg>
Are the clients thin or fat? Green or blue icons in epoptes?
16:46
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
thin
16:46
<alkisg>
OK, try this: right click on a client, open root terminal
16:46
Then, using the "ls" command, see if your changes are there
16:46
E.g. ls /usr/share/ldm/themes/whatever
16:47
If they are there, then run: getltscfg -a
16:47
And verify that the LDM directives actually reach the client
16:47
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
okay ill try that
16:52
i can open the terminal but its not accepting commands i have no root@serv
16:52
<alkisg>
On the client itself, try `ltsp-localapps xterm`
16:52
and see if you can make it from there
16:53
It sounds like you don't have epoptes-client installed properly in the chroot
17:04
<TheFlyingCrocodi>
well i only have 2 user atm and the admin user cant log on and my test one cant open local apps but navigating in caja on the client shows the updated logo
17:06
and running get ltsconf says it cant find the conf
17:12
ive made a symlink to the amd64 one
17:12
<alkisg>
TheFlyingCrocodi: caja on the thin client shows the server, not the client
17:12
So it's useless
17:13
!screen_02
17:13
<ltsp>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
17:13
<alkisg>
!root
17:13
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'root', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ROOT_PASSWORD_HASH'
17:13
<alkisg>
!ROOT_PASSWORD_HASH
17:13
<ltsp>
ROOT_PASSWORD_HASH: To be able to login as root in vt1, with password "qwer1234", put this in lts.conf: INIT_COMMAND_ROOT_HASH="sed 's!^root:[^:]*:!root:\$6\$p2LdWE6j\$PDd1TUzGvvIkj9SE8wbw1gA/MD66tHHlStqi1.qyv860oK47UnKcafSKqGp7cbgZUPlgyPv6giCVyCSCdJt1b0:!' -i /etc/shadow"
17:13
<alkisg>
!localxterm
17:13
<ltsp>
localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
17:13
<alkisg>
TheFlyingCrocodi: there are many ways to get a shell on the *client*, not on the server via a thin client
17:13
Use one of the above ^
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