IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 7 October 2013   (all times are UTC)

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02:04
<jp_>
hello
02:04
looking for iOS ltsp thin client?
02:07
anything like that exists?
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<vagrantc>
jp_: could you be more specific about what you're trying to do?
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05:49
<rakesh_>
hi everyone
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05:50
<Guest26874>
hello everyone
05:50
is there any person who can help me at urgent basis
05:57
<work_alkisg>
!ask
05:57
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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10:31
<Mohit>
Hello all
10:31
i am new to LTSP
10:31
and sucessfully installed LTSP server
10:32
can anybody tell me how the programs comming in server also come in Client
10:32
like office
10:32
mozila
10:32
etc
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10:41
<monkwitdafunk>
Hi mohit. You can use a thin client for.anything specific
10:43
For example you can pxe boot into grub and maybe choose libreoffice and firefox with diffrent firewalls
10:44
Sorry. The dhcp server needs a network admin
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12:52
<edwin>
morning everyine
12:52
how do i solve this issue
12:53
I just try to download something and it says you cannot change the content of this folder
12:54
tmp
12:54
I am in a terminal
12:54
edubuntu 12.04
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ltsp
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<edwin>
does anyone has issue downloading from a terminal?
13:05
I am trying to download a picture (testing purpose) and it says I cannot change content of the folder tmp
13:05
if I right click to save it someplace else the dialog doesn't even appear. I am using local firefox
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13:12
<edwin>
sleepy headssss wake upppp
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<||cw>
edwin: is there enough room?
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13:26
<edwin_>
please help
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13:27
<edwin_>
I am on a terminal right now of a edubuntu 12.04 ltsp server
13:27
for testing any issue a user might have
13:28
I am tryying to download something and it says I cannot change content on the this folder tmp
13:28
I right click to save it someplace else and the dialog does not appear
13:28
I am using local firefoc
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x'
13:28
<alkisg>
ltsp-localapps xterm
13:28
touch /tmp/some-file
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df -h
13:28
Run those.
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13:29
<edwin_>
hold on
13:30
permissioon denied
13:31
<alkisg>
And: ls -ld /tmp
13:33
<edwin_>
no W for groups
13:33
and belong to root
13:33
root root
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<alkisg>
drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096
13:34
<edwin_>
mine has no w in the group section
13:34
<alkisg>
Check it in /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp as well
13:34
And you didn't report the output of df -h
13:35
<edwin_>
drwxr-xr-t
13:35
<alkisg>
OK, so fix it, chmod 1777 /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp; ltsp-update-image etc etc
13:35
<edwin_>
I can a copy from there?
13:35
<alkisg>
It depends, if you're using epoptes or ssh... or, scp...
13:36
Anyways, fix the opt problem and run ltsp-update-image
13:36
<edwin_>
in xterm how can I copy from there?
13:36
I am in the terminal
13:37
<alkisg>
select, then middle click for paste
13:37
<edwin_>
laptop here
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<alkisg>
left and right click together
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<edwin_>
http://pastebin.com/9e4HLBZv
13:43
alkisg thats the output of what you told me
13:43
I will be back in a sec has to restart
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<edwin>
thanks man
14:03
another issue
14:03
how do I tell the system to always use local firefox and local vlc
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<alkisg>
!lts.conf
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<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
14:06
<alkisg>
Check the params for localapps there, menu etc
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<edwin>
yuo are the man
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15:33
<j3p0>
hello do they make a client to connect to a LTSP server from iOS 6/7 to access a desktop for internet access ?
15:54
<||cw>
j3p0: that's not really what ltsp does
15:55
the client devices either PXE boot, or run a customized linux that connects to LTSP. you just want rdp or vnc, which ltsp doesn't directly do
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<tobi_>
hello
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<marung>
Hello. I am having issues with my PXE boot.
16:18
<vagrantc>
!question
16:18
<ltsp>
question: if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
16:19
<marung>
I am running Centos 5.9 and can PXE with the current computers in my lab, but any other computer I try to set up for PXE on the server Kernel panics at automatic network detection on five different computers/NIC cards.
16:20
external DHCP, receives IP address and loads from ltsp server up to NIC detection.
16:21
<vagrantc>
is it on the same network as the other computers?
16:21
i.e. it's using the same network card
16:21
<marung>
Yes, it is set up on its own VLAN
16:21
<vagrantc>
maybe firewalling?
16:21
<marung>
All disabled
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<vagrantc>
is there a router on the same network that might also be running DHCP?
16:23
<marung>
No, the district only has one DHCP. IP range from 144.0 to 152.250, so plenty of addresses available.
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<vagrantc>
are you using dnsmasq with proxydhcp, then? or is the LTSP server handing out DHCP?
16:24
<marung>
Currently works great with the thin client (old laptops) computers I am using.
16:25
<vagrantc>
marung: just to be clear, the computer downloads the kernel and initrd via tftp, and then fails once it makes a second DHCP request?
16:26
<marung>
DHCP not on LTSP server, Client receives IP, Then starts TFTP.
16:26
<vagrantc>
so you are using proxydhcp, maybe with dnsmasq?
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<marung>
I am not sure. I will have to check on that.
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<vagrantc>
or is the district's server configured to tell your thin clients what to boot LTSP from your server?
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<marung>
The DHCP is pointed to the right TFTP, the existing clients boot fine.
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<vagrantc>
marung: it's on a separate VLAN, but connected to the same network?
16:30
<marung>
Yes. connected to same network.
16:30
<vagrantc>
marung: without knowing how your DHCP is configured, it makes it rather hard to troubleshoot. hard enough that i don't even know CentOS
16:30
marung: what's the point of the vlan, then?
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<marung>
set up so only one room/lab can PXE.
16:31
<vagrantc>
marung: did you have to do any manual configuration to get your other thin clients to boot?
16:31
i don't see how it can be on a separate vlan, but the same network, and only allow some machines to PXE boot...
16:31
<marung>
No, It has always been plug n play until now.
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<vagrantc>
on different subnets?
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<marung>
different subnets.
16:35
I am on 151.0 rest of school on 16.0
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<vagrantc>
and is there specific configuration on your district's DHCP server to give your thin clients PXE/TFTP/DHCP information?
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<marung>
DHCP points to /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf
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<marung>
kernel panics at the linuxrc
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<vagrantc>
marung: on the district server, or with some other service you've set up?
16:50
i don't know linuxrc, don't use CentOS, but this sounds like you're getting two different DHCP responses... one at PXE time, and then a second from the initrd/initramfs phase, and one of them isn't giving you the correct information
16:50
<marung>
Not sure the question. The LTSP Centos server kernel panics when it reaches linuxrc.
16:50
<vagrantc>
marung: the server kenel panics, or the thin client?
16:53
<marung>
thin clients does
16:56
<vagrantc>
marung: can you get a laptop or other computer to at least get networking information on the networks that are having problems?
16:56
s,networks,subnets, ?
16:57
<marung>
Yes. There are 35 computers in my room that do connect successfully to the ltsp server. If I unplug the cat5 from one and plug in the computers they want to upgrade me to, it kernel panics.
16:59
the thin client computer kernel panics...
16:59
<vagrantc>
so on the exact same network and subnet, with different hardware, you're getting kernel panics...
16:59
<marung>
Yes. that is correct.
17:00
<vagrantc>
but multiple different new hardware all fail
17:00
<marung>
I have since tried with five different NIC cards / brands, all kernel panic.
17:00
<vagrantc>
but the old ones continue to work fine, plugged into the exact same cable?
17:01
<marung>
Yes, that is my frustration...
17:02
<vagrantc>
are all the old ones the same model?
17:02
marung: i don't know if it's present, but could you run "ltsp-info" on the LTSP server and paste the results
17:02
!paste
17:02
<ltsp>
paste: try !pastebot
17:03
<vagrantc>
!pastebot
17:03
<ltsp>
pastebot: try !pastebin
17:03
<vagrantc>
!pastebin
17:03
<ltsp>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
17:03
<vagrantc>
ltsp: forget paste
17:03
<cliebow>
heh
17:03
<vagrantc>
ltsp: learn paste as try !pastebin
17:04
<marung>
basically yes...Same IBM different models t40, t41,t42 etc
17:04
<vagrantc>
bots a little slow to relearn things today
17:04
marung: and the new ones?
17:05
marung: this really gets into centos specific knowledge ... i have no idea how their LTSP environment builds the client images, what hardware to expect to work, how to get new hardware to work, etc.
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<marung>
Dell 830 with Broadcom, 5530 with gigabit, even tried old EEEpc
17:06* vagrantc is used to a pretty arbitrary variety of hardware working with a given setup
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<j3p0>
@<||cw> so no software for iOS make make them a fatclient then? I understand PXE boot
17:49
<ogra_>
this is not how LTSP works
17:49
<j3p0>
ok thanks
17:49
<ogra_>
imagine it as kbd/mouse/screen extensions of the server
17:50
by using a PXE booted linux on the client machines
17:51
<j3p0>
exactly - was hoping it was more like terminal services in windows and i would be able to use a client on IOS to connect for a remote desktop with multiple users - i uderstand that this is not how it was designed - thanks
17:51
<ogra_>
you can indeed install something like NX on the terminal server
17:52
and log in from OSX with an nx client ... iirc that exists
17:55
<j3p0>
thanks
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<bcdonadio>
What should I do to include a fully-featured BusyBox on a ltsp initramfs?
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19:15
<alkisg>
bcdonadio: what do you mean "fully featured"? Which distro, version, and what are you missing from it?
19:16
<other_other_joe>
I'd hate to see a less featured busybox :)
19:19
<bcdonadio>
alkisg, I'm booting from a ubuntu-generated initramfs on a thinclient, but it is not booting, so I'm trying to debug it, buuuuuut the busybox on that image doesn't even have "less" bundled, so I'm having a little bit of a headache to read my dmesg...
19:19
<other_other_joe>
more should be there
19:20
"more" that is
19:23
<bcdonadio>
more isn't working :\
19:23
<alkisg>
bcdonadio: one easy way is to download it from the server while still on the initramfs,
19:24
python -m SimpleHTTPServer on the server, and wget on the client,
19:24
but, what's your actual problem?
19:25
<bcdonadio>
alksig, I'm not able to mount the NBD image, and I receive this error: "block ndb0: attempted send on closed socket"
19:25
<alkisg>
Which ubuntu version?
19:25
<bcdonadio>
saucy
19:25
<alkisg>
i386?
19:25
<bcdonadio>
i386 client, amd64 server
19:26
<alkisg>
Can you pastebin stuff from the server?
19:26
<bcdonadio>
also: "mount: mounting /dev/nbd0 on /root failed: Invalid argument"
19:26
<alkisg>
grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd*
19:26
<bcdonadio>
yes, sure
19:26
<alkisg>
grep nbd /var/log/syslog
19:26
sudo netstat -nap|grep nbd
19:30
<bcdonadio>
http://pastebin.com/VvcUeR3B
19:30
<alkisg>
Seems good, another one: ls -lh /opt/ltsp/images
19:31
And, verify that this doesn't exist: /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow
19:31
<bcdonadio>
http://pastebin.com/mWf9LKcW
19:32
/etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow doesn't exist
19:32
<alkisg>
OK, now client site:
19:32
!nbd-client
19:32
<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
19:32
<alkisg>
...not exactly though,
19:32
Ah ok saucy, so just change the IP
19:33
*client side, I meant
19:33
<bcdonadio>
Negotiation: ..size = 325MB\nbs=1024, sz=341176320 bytes
19:34
apparently, it worked
19:34
<alkisg>
So your dhcpd setup has issues
19:34
cat /proc/cmdline on the client, and pastebin your server's dhcpd.conf
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<bcdonadio>
ro initrd=intird.img-3.11....blahblahblah init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 root=/dev/nbd0 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-3.11....blabhblabh BOOTIF=blahmymacblah
19:36
s/blah/actual information/g :P
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<alkisg>
On the client again, ipconfig -n eth0
19:37
Check the rootserver there, is that your dhcp server?
19:38
*ltsp server?
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<bcdonadio>
weeeee, indeed, it was a problem with the dhcp.conf!
19:40
im running two different ltsp installations, and I didn't override the root-path for this client
19:40* alkisg notes that the busybox wouldn't help very much there :)
19:41
<bcdonadio>
thank you, alkisg ^^
19:41
<alkisg>
np
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22:50
<digitalirony>
so, im seeing this issue on our 12.04 ltsp, where our users can't open evince
22:50
its giving an error about no supported authenticaion protocols
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(evince:20545): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
22:51
like that
22:52
I found a link suggesting setting the homedir prefix in apparmor
22:52
but it didn't seem to have any effect
22:53
and if I do it remotely with ssh -X, I get that it rejected the connection from X11 because of wrong authentication
22:59
nvm
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22:59
<digitalirony>
i figured it out finally
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