IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 13 December 2011   (all times are UTC)

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11:41
<Guest76737>
f i put out an prebuilt image from wwwrom-o-matic whats the best format to put it on a normal hdd,
11:41
and howto the howtos made me stuck
11:43
<muppis>
Linux kernel (SYSLINUX/GRUB/LILO)...
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12:16
<alkisg>
!disable-compiz
12:16
<ltsp>
alkisg: disable-compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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13:22
<andygraybeal>
gooodmorninigningisngis
13:22
two cups of coffee in so far.
13:23
<_UsUrPeR_>
there you go. Part of a balanced HNNNNGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh
13:23
<andygraybeal>
;))
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13:39
<JerryNJ>
anyone around who can help me fix my broken ltsp setup?
13:40
i built the box on a server w 2 nics and im confused as to how to get dhcp to work properly
13:45
<andygraybeal>
have you edited the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file?
13:46
er.. is it ubuntu? and you've followed the instrucitons on ubuntu's website?
13:47
<JerryNJ>
yep ubuntu
13:48
<andygraybeal>
k, have a look at the config file /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf if you haven't already
13:49
here lemme find the page for it
13:49
this is the page i follow for thin and thick client setups: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT
13:49
it's bad ass :)
13:50
if you've already done that stuff, i'm afraid i can't help and youll have to wait for someone with more experience.
13:50
which, i think i have the least experience here, so that is easy to do.
13:50
<veloutin>
have you tried to HNNNNNGGGN
13:52
<andygraybeal>
:)
13:53
what is it with this word today?
13:53
i don't quite understand.
13:53
<mgariepy>
good morning eveyrone
13:53
<andygraybeal>
hi mgariepy
13:53
<veloutin>
good morning mgariepy
13:54
andygraybeal: it's a meme
13:54
<andygraybeal>
ah i must catch up!
13:54
damn dawkins.
13:55
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hnnnnnng
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13:57
<andygraybeal>
JerryNJ, hey, hows it going so far?
13:58
<dtrask>
ready to check and see why epoptes is not letting me screenshare
13:58
<andygraybeal>
heya dtrask :)
13:58
<dtrask>
alkisg around?
13:59
hi!
13:59
<andygraybeal>
haven't seen him
13:59
but i just got in about an hour ago
13:59
<dtrask>
almost got everything working, but for some reason I cannot demo or monitor via epoptes
14:00
I'm guessing something is listening on that port, but having trouble finding out what
14:00
"something else"
14:00
Oh well
14:00
I'll try and catch him sometime today
14:00
<andygraybeal>
he'll probably be in soon. he's always here.
14:00
<dtrask>
thx ;-)
14:02
<alkisg>
dtrask: hi
14:02
<dtrask>
Hi! I'm thinking purging italc might do the trick?
14:02
<andygraybeal>
the devil is speaking :)
14:02
<dtrask>
LOL
14:03
<alkisg>
:D
14:03
dtrask: let us share your screen so that I see which problems you're talking about
14:03
Go in the help menu
14:03
Then remote support (or assistance, don't remember the name), and put ip = alkisg.dyndns.org
14:03
<dtrask>
I had stopped it from loading as a startup program, but then realized that italc client was still running on the TC's
14:04
hang on
14:04
<alkisg>
Yeah it's Help → Remote support
14:04
<dtrask>
i'm on?
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14:12
<dtrask>
they are rebooting
14:12
cool to watch
14:12
I ha ve them set to autologin
14:13
<alkisg>
dtrask: the problem was that you put SERVER=localhost in the chroot, so the clients were trying to connect to themselves, not to the server
14:13
<andygraybeal>
dtrask, aewsome, i can't wait til try out epoptes :)
14:13
<dtrask>
this is waht I was talking about....now they don't really show up.
14:13
<alkisg>
Reverting to the default, empty configuration should do it
14:13
<dtrask>
I had to do that to get it to work
14:13
hang on
14:14
<alkisg>
dtrask: wait
14:14
<dtrask>
lemme log out and back in and then epoptes should work....or is there a better way?
14:14
<alkisg>
Don't change anything yourself, wait for me to check what's going on
14:14
<dtrask>
k
14:14
<alkisg>
Are your clients logged in?
14:14
<dtrask>
yes
14:14
<andygraybeal>
alkisg, i am going to request that my business set aside money in our budget for ltsp :))))
14:14
<alkisg>
OK, wait
14:14
<dtrask>
four of them
14:14
<andygraybeal>
we are going to go over the budget soon for this coming year.
14:15
ltsp, zentyal, and joomla
14:17
<alkisg>
dtrask: from a client, run this command: x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
14:17
<dtrask>
as sudo?
14:18
<alkisg>
andygraybeal: budget for ltsp, do you mean that you're planning to buy thin clients?
14:18
dtrask: no
14:18
<andygraybeal>
donation to ltsp
14:18
<alkisg>
Cool, guys at the next BTS will get a load of lobsters :D
14:18
<dtrask>
done
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14:19
<alkisg>
dtrask: I didn't get any connection though
14:19
<andygraybeal>
hah
14:19
<dtrask>
I missed BTS this year as I was sick, but it's nearby my home
14:19
<alkisg>
Did you see any warnings when you issued the command?
14:19
<dtrask>
hang on
14:20
<alkisg>
What I mean is, log in in a thin client, and then open gnome-terminal, and then run that command there
14:20
<dtrask>
I did
14:20* alkisg unfortunately won't be able to attend other BTSes, too far away from greece...
14:20
<alkisg>
What errors?
14:21
<dtrask>
caught X11 error
14:21
<andygraybeal>
maybe we could have a 'fund drive' for you?
14:21
<dtrask>
BadAccess
14:21
<andygraybeal>
alkisg, ^^
14:21
<alkisg>
That'd be cool, andygraybeal :)
14:21
dtrask: ah, noshm:
14:21
x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
14:21
<dtrask>
should I have used a disply variable
14:21
ok
14:21
hang on
14:22
ah better
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14:33
<alkisg>
dtrask: I'll need root access on the client to stop epoptes from running there
14:34
I'll put SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf, and reboot it, ok?
14:34
<dtrask>
yes
14:37
<alkisg>
dtrask: when the client boots, press alt+ctrl+f2, and then type: service epoptes stop
14:38
<dtrask>
K
14:38
<alkisg>
Then alt+ctrl+f7 to switch back to X, and then x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
14:38
<dtrask>
UNRECOGNIZED SERVICE
14:38
(NO IDEA WHY ALL CAPS)
14:39
<alkisg>
It's the x11vnc malfunctions, ignore that :D
14:39
<dtrask>
SO PROCEED EVEN THOUGH NOTHING WAS STOPPED?
14:39
<alkisg>
run: ps aux|grep epoptes
14:39
and kill any process you see on the client there
14:41
<dtrask>
her it goes
14:41
here
14:41
<alkisg>
nice
14:42
let's start debugging now :)
14:44
The user session part runs fine, with screenshots and everything... let's see the system part
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15:05
<JerryNJ>
can one of you guys remote into my ltsp box and tell me what i am doing wrong w dhcp?
15:06
<Guest76737>
@muppis: Linux kernel (SYSLINUX/GRUB/LILO)...
15:07
what you mean with that?
15:07
<muppis>
Guest76737, take that option from rom-o-matic and put it in the grub.
15:08
<Guest76737>
ok probably i would still think what you mean?
15:08
if you would not have told me:-D
15:08
<muppis>
Then you can boot to ltsp client without actually have PXE booting.
15:10
<alkisg>
dtrask: can you run this command from SCREEN_02 on the client? cp /tmp/epoptes-client /usr/sbin/epoptes-client
15:11
<dtrask>
which one is screen 2?
15:12
<alkisg>
dtrask: press alt+ctrl+f2 to switch to the console
15:12
On the thin client
15:12
<dtrask>
oh....gotcha
15:12
<alkisg>
Then run that command
15:12
<JerryNJ>
alkisg: Ill take you up on that offer for help if you have a moment or two
15:12
<dtrask>
leave this screen up for a sec
15:12
<JerryNJ>
im really up sh*ts creek atm
15:12
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: I haven't offered any help :D :D
15:13
<dtrask>
done
15:13
<JerryNJ>
alkisg: could you help me out bit?
15:14
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: not at the moment, I'm doing some debugging
15:14
dtrask: from screen_02 again, can you type: epoptes-client ?
15:15
..and see if you get a certificate error?
15:15
<dtrask>
hang on
15:15
<alkisg>
(just epoptes-client, without the question mark)
15:15
<dtrask>
yes...got an error....verify failed
15:16
<alkisg>
That's the root of the problem, mismatched certificate, but I haven't yet figured out why... :(
15:16
<andygraybeal>
JerryNJ, did you read that ubuntu page about that talks about nat'ing? it has the dhcp config on it.
15:17
<dtrask>
ok...well this is simply a test machine...JerryNJ needs help more than I if you want to help him
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15:17
<dtrask>
I will load everything on to a test "Server" and then try it to see if things install better
15:17
(Server means a "real" server not this laptop)
15:19
let me know...I don't want to cut you off
15:19
if you are still doing something
15:19
<alkisg>
dtrask: ok, and I'll try on an oneiric VM with the first chance I get, to see if there are any socat/openssl related problems there
15:19
<dtrask>
cool
15:19
keep me posted...and thanks!
15:19
<alkisg>
dtrask: np
15:20
<dtrask>
can I close everything?
15:23
<alkisg>
yup
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15:27
<JerryNJ>
im making progress
15:27
finally
15:28
need some help with tftp not working now if anyone has some time
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15:42
<Hyperbyte>
!ask | echo JerryNJ
15:42
<ltsp>
JerryNJ ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
15:45
<andygraybeal>
JerryNJ, did you follow the ubuntu instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP - especially: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ -- i follow these instructions and i have no problems.
15:46
and i'm notoriously the idiot in the channel :)
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<gvy>
hi!
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<Gadi>
alkisg: ping
16:27
<alkisg>
Heya Gadi
16:27
<Gadi>
alkisg: do you remember off the top of your head the magic to set the bootprompt options for l-u-i?
16:27
(say, to override "quiet splash")
16:28* Gadi would look it up but is looking for an excuse to say hi to alkisg
16:28
<Gadi>
:)
16:28
<alkisg>
grep BOOT /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf
16:28
BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS=${BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS:-quiet splash nbd_proxy=false nocompcache}
16:28
+ ltsp-update-image --force
16:28
<Gadi>
there we go
16:28
<alkisg>
Hehe, /me likes excuses like that :D
16:28
...but continues shaving to avoid cutting himself :P
16:29
<gvy>
(looking at log, alkisg and Gadi) folks, were nbdroot-related changes discussed a few weeks ago merged into ltsp-trunk? (I postponed my messing not to mess over others' messing then)
16:29
<alkisg>
gvy, Yoe said he'd commit them this weekend
16:29
So you'd better wait until then, at least
16:29
If he does, then we'll probably change our code to match
16:31
<Gadi>
ah, he accepted the new scriptie?
16:31
<gvy>
alkisg, ah, thx
16:31* Gadi has been out of the loop
16:31
<gvy>
the SOAPed one?
16:31
<alkisg>
Gadi, I think he agrees it's a good approach, so only small bugs+fixes should stand in the way of commiting it
16:31* gvy runs!!!
16:31
<alkisg>
Let's see, this next weekend
16:32
<Gadi>
very good. seems we are inching closer to a goal
16:32
:)
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16:33
<gvy>
in Soviet Russia... :)
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16:33
<alkisg>
LTSP 6 will rock :D
16:33
<ogra_>
not as much as LTSP 7 !
16:34
<gvy>
well, being able to switch both booting methods (like nbd/nfs) and acces methods (like xdmcp/ldm) would rock but we rather skipped the big thing either over here :/
16:34* gvy waves to ogra_
16:34
<ogra_>
hey hey
16:34
<gvy>
*access
16:35
but that innovative feature might have to be introduced in ltsp 7 ultimate, heh
16:35
<alkisg>
Hey ogra. LTSP 5 rocked too, although I have to admin I've yet to understand "rock" as a verb :D
16:35
<ogra_>
haha
16:35
<gvy>
it's when something slams its guitar, like that
16:35
<ogra_>
well, it was rocky :)
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<andygraybeal>
is there a place that we can read what changes are expected in LTSP 6?
16:38* ogra_ wasnt even aware that there was a version bump planned
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<Gadi>
whoa whoa. read?
16:44* Gadi thought we discouraged literacy
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