IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 January 2013   (all times are UTC)

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00:45
<ltspuser_61>
haii
00:46* vagrantc waves
00:46
<ltspuser_61>
help lts.conf
00:46
<vagrantc>
!help lts.conf
00:46
<ltsp>
Error: There is no command "lts.conf".
00:46
<vagrantc>
!lts.conf
00:46
<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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<ltspuser_61>
help a thin client t1010 doc lts.conf
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08:38
<sha>
hi, i built a fatclient image with ubuntu 12.04. it's all working well so far, however, i tested three different clients and all hang at shutdown. i tried acpi=force as kernel parameter (and other workarounds), but the problem persists. is this a known issue? any hint?
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10:46
<meamy>
I' m trying at the moment to understand what exactly happens in the start process of ltsp-clients and I stumbled over the /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/ folder the scripts in there are called by the function run_xk_scripts() out of /usr/share/ltsp/screen-x-common but it looks like that these function is never called (and so the scripts in this direction are never processed) did I just miss something? or are these scripte not used at all by L
10:46
TSP5?
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<Hyperbyte>
meamy, I'm not so intimate with the LTSP source, but I bet run_xk_scripts is called by LDM
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<dievel>
Talking about LDM, I was wandering if I can modify the Preference button in the login screen. To remove some entry. Just an hint on where to look.
11:18
<meamy>
Hyperbyte, the LDM calls bash functions? that would be weird
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11:25
<meamy>
hyperbyte ok you are ride
11:25
:D
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12:06
<Hyperbyte>
dievel, LDM source. It's in C.
12:07
<dievel>
Yeah... I just found it in a forum :( Thanks Hyperbyte!
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12:10
<Hyperbyte>
dievel, what would you want to edit, if I may ask?
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12:19
<dievel>
Hyperbyte: sure. I'd like to remove some entries from the Preference menu. I mean, I'd like to prevent users to choose which "session" to use.
12:21
I'm also looking for the best method to harden the users homedirs. To prevent a user to look inside the others homedirs. Can you suggest which is the best way to do that?
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12:39
<Hyperbyte>
dievel, you don't need to hack LDM for that
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<Hyperbyte>
Just set LDM_FORCE_SESSION in lts.conf
12:43
That, or you could remove the sessions you don't want them to pick from /usr/share/xsessions/. If you don't uninstall the package providing these files, they will be restored on package updates though.
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12:58* [GuS] Hi...
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<dievel>
Hyperbyte: Aaagh!! :)) I found in the docs only the LDM_SESSION parameter. Am I so dumb?!!! Seems so.
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<Hyperbyte>
dievel, nah, I don't think LDM_FORCE_SESSION is documented
14:40
Not sure where I got it from
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<dievel>
Hyperbyte, seems LDM_FORCE_SESSION ignored :( With LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-classic" I can set gnome-classic as default. But this does not prevent the user to change se session using the Preferences button in the login screen.
14:43
* is ingnore
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*is ignored
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<Hyperbyte>
Hrm.
14:43
Maybe LDM_FORCE_SESSION is too new
14:44
It worked on an ltsp-pnp machine. I bet alkisg can shed some light on this when he is here.
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<dievel>
Hu! This is very probable.
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<dievel>
Alkisg already told me that my ltsp coming in edubuntu is not the newest.
14:45
I have the 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3 release.
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<Hyperbyte>
Looks like it was patched in on the 4th of June 2012, according to vagrantc in the IRC logs
14:47
As of LDM 2.2.10
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2.2.9 is the LDM version of Ubuntu 12.04
14:48
I tried on an ltsp-pnp machine, Ubuntu 12.10, and it worked.
14:48
I bet alkisg can help you install a newer version of ltsp/ldm.
14:48
<dievel>
Ubuntu 12.10 install the Version: 5.4.3-0ubuntu4 of ltsp-server :)
14:49
<Hyperbyte>
Type ltsp-info
14:49
What's the ldm-server version?
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<dievel>
ii ltsp-server 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3
14:50
ii ldm-edubuntu-theme 2:2.0.47
14:50
<Hyperbyte>
15:49 <Hyperbyte> What's the ldm-server version?
14:51
<dievel>
It's 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3
14:51
<Hyperbyte>
I doubt that.
14:51
ltsp-info | grep ldm-server
14:51
<dievel>
Sorry...my fault.
14:52
ii ldm-server 2:2.2.9-1ubuntu0.1
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<Hyperbyte>
Right, so, you'd need 2.2.10
14:52
As far as I can gather, anyways.
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<dievel>
Is it possible that the ubuntu 12.10 install the 2:2.2.11-1?
14:53
<Hyperbyte>
No idea.
14:54
http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ldm-server
14:54
You could probably also just install the newer versions in 12.04, but I'm not sure how. Not very knowledge in Ubuntu matters.
14:54
<dievel>
Yep.
14:55
Well...seems there isn't a backport version of ltsp/ldm. Not yet.
14:56
Which version/distro do you use?
14:56
<Hyperbyte>
Varies.
14:56
At my workplace, 12.04
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At the radiostation where I volunteer, 12.04 and 12.10
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12.04 for the fat clients, 12.10 for a special thin client
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<dievel>
I see. I suppose I can get the latest release from launchpad.
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<Hyperbyte>
knipwim, you there? :)
15:07
<knipwim>
kind of
15:07
<Hyperbyte>
Should I rather bug you later? :)
15:07
<knipwim>
in a meeting, but i don't have to pay attention
15:07
<Hyperbyte>
Ah.
15:07
<knipwim>
depends a bit on what you want to discuss
15:07
:)
15:07
<Hyperbyte>
Well, I'll just leave my idea here... reply whenever you feel like it. :-)
15:08
I was thinking, since the Greek schools are on the LTSP worldmap now, maybe we could write a news article about that for the front page.
15:08
Thing is, I have no idea how to go about doing that. I could maybe write a concept, that you could revise/rewrite/whatever and publish? :-)
15:08
<knipwim>
sure
15:08
<Hyperbyte>
:)
15:09
<knipwim>
i'm not very good in writing public messages
15:09
<Hyperbyte>
I'll mock up something soon then. Could take a day or so.
15:09
<knipwim>
in the website project, Alex did all that
15:09
and he was much better
15:09
<Hyperbyte>
Pretty busy, but just had the idea and figured I'd share. :)
15:09
<knipwim>
cool
15:10
if i remember, i'll send a meeting reminder tonight
15:10
<Hyperbyte>
:)
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<knipwim>
Hyperbyte: we should also discuss the topics
15:18
for next meeting
15:19
<Hyperbyte>
knipwim, should we do this now already?
15:19
Next meeting is in 1 week, right?
15:19
The 31st.
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<knipwim>
yes, just sent the reminder :)
15:23
we don't have to discuss it now
15:24
do you have some time in the coming weekend? like half an hour
15:25
<otwieracz>
Hm.
15:25
<Hyperbyte>
Not really
15:25
Next week somewhere during evenings would be best
15:25
That, or sunday maybe.
15:25
<otwieracz>
Any ideas why one of my application using CLX (Xlib for Common Lisp) fails with:
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:REASON
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"No protocol specified
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http://wklej.org/hash/123b0e8dff3/ exactly
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18:54
<dtrask>
I have arrived!
18:55* vagrantc waves to dtrask
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<knipwim>
dtrask: the meeting is next week :)
19:00
<dtrask>
LOL...I'm a week early?
19:00
<knipwim>
yep
19:00
the meetings are 2-weekly
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<dtrask>
I've never been early...much less a week
19:01
<jammcq>
hey dtrask
19:01
<dtrask>
LOL
19:01
hey
19:01
<jammcq>
dtrask: did you move to portland?
19:01
<dtrask>
jammcq: no...not yet...still in Vassalboro...the charter school opens in the fall
19:01
<jammcq>
ah
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<dtrask>
I drive to Portland a lot though
19:01
<jammcq>
but you are taking a job there?
19:02
<dtrask>
essentially working 2 jobs, but getting paid for one
19:02
LOL
19:02
yes
19:02
http://baxteracademy.org
19:02
I'm the IT Director
19:02
and I'll be teaching as well
19:04
We have one of the guys from this project teaching with us: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QtwIwCA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW1czBcnX1Ww&ei=d4UBUZ1IsMnQAcKogYgE&usg=AFQjCNFDqh-U-KWkz9VcylV0Lg69KW7lyg&sig2=0_KGw7Tb129Bwbkg3v0WnQ
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<jammcq>
ooh, that thing is creepy
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i've seen the video before
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<dtrask>
I want an open source version of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z23UeJi_uJ4
19:09
<knipwim>
supercool
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<ball>
hello Patina
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<Hyperbyte>
jammcq, we keep missing eachother by a few hours. :-)
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<jammcq>
Hyperbyte: hey
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<awilliams>
jammcq: How goes it bro.
23:14* awilliams thinks jammcq does not know this nick
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<jammcq>
awilliams: mistik1 ?
23:15
<awilliams>
yep :)
23:15
<jammcq>
hey buddy
23:15
<awilliams>
hey man
23:15
<jammcq>
I saw the nick in the userlist and thought of you but wasn't sure
23:15
how's it goin?
23:15
<awilliams>
How's the new year treating you
23:15
<jammcq>
treating me ok so far
23:15
<awilliams>
I'm doing pretty well
23:15
<jammcq>
hoping 2013 will be the turn-around year
23:15
still in Jamaica?
23:15
<awilliams>
Yep
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<Hyperbyte>
jammcq, anything you wanted to discuss? :)
23:26
<awilliams>
jammcq: I was just thinking a few days ago that Adeenha is 18 this year and I've known you most her life
23:27
been at this Linux thing all her life
23:32
<jammcq>
wow, 18
23:32
that's crazy
23:32
<awilliams>
yea
23:32
<jammcq>
where is she living?
23:32
<awilliams>
She's in the states these days
23:33
<jammcq>
ah
23:33
<awilliams>
She wanted to finish schooling there so I sent her up
23:33
She was here with me for a couple years
23:33
<jammcq>
I was just telling someone about you yesterday. telling him about Geeks in the Hood
23:34
ah the good ole days :)
23:34
<awilliams>
hehe
23:34
yep
23:34
Jamaica is still prime for such a thing
23:35
I may well do it again if/when our business flies
23:36
<jammcq>
I'm thinking Jamaica is still prime for a LTSP dev conf
23:36
<awilliams>
absolutely
23:36
<jammcq>
I'm starting to get more involved. Built a debian ltsp server a few days ago
23:36
btw, i've been playing with IPv6 lately
23:36
I remember you were doing that 10 years ago
23:37
<awilliams>
yea, I get almost no chance to do any networking/sysadmin type stuff anymore
23:38
Its mostly yur fault too :)
23:38
<jammcq>
my fault?
23:38
<awilliams>
You forced me to admit I was a programmer and the rest is history :)
23:38
<jammcq>
whys that?
23:39
hahahahah
23:39
anytime someone starts working on ltsp and tells me they're not a programmer, I think "Bullshit"
23:39
Gadi's not a programmer either... cough cough cough
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<awilliams>
haha
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<jammcq>
hey awilliams, it's been great chatting. I need to run out. taking my wife out to dinner. but let's talk again later
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<awilliams>
later bro
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