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Channel log from 8 July 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<dobber>
after yesterdays lucid update
03:44
i can't start chromium and opera no more :(
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<dobber>
i'm having trouble running specific local apps.
04:15
how do i debug them
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<dobber>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc
06:17
anyone can help me debug why chromium wont start as a localapp after yesterdays update /
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?
06:19
<Appiah>
just segfaults at startup?
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<dobber>
i dont know
06:20
ltsp-localapps chromium-browser
06:20
no errors no nothing
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i've straced a lot but have found nothing so far :(
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/usr/bin/xprop -root -f LTSP_COMMAND 8s -set LTSP_COMMAND "strace -s 1024 -o /tmp/debug -f /usr/bin/chromium-browser"
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ahaa
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i'm back in the game ;)
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<Appiah>
huh? :)
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<dobber>
i found a way to debug a local application :)
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<giaco>
hello
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<Appiah>
:)
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<giaco>
I've a question: a wireles thin client, is it possible? any valid solution?
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<Appiah>
there are thin clients with wireless
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if there are thin clients with wireless that can pxeboot I have no idea
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<giaco>
:-/
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<Appiah>
if you can turn them into fatclients perhaps?
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(beacuse they dont pxeboot right?)
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or am I confusing terms here
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<sep>
Appiah, you will either need a external wifi to ethernet adapter that can connect to the wifi on the machines's behalf before it boots. or you must have a tiny tiny os on the machine that can detect the hardware and connect to the wifi, before coninusing the boot there. (or more likely just a thinclient distro like thinstation)
07:13
<giaco>
sep, I want the second solution
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but I'd like to start from something that's supposed to work out-of-the-box
07:13
You're talking about thinclient distro, I'm relly interested
07:13
<sep>
http://www.thinstation.org/ works out of the box boot it from flash iso cd or whatever
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<Appiah>
tiny os that detects the wifi ... wouldnt that be a fatclient setup?
07:14
<sep>
a fat thinclient :)
07:14
not a fat workstation
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but basicaly yes
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<Appiah>
:)
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<giaco>
sorry I didn't know those terms :) now I do
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<sep>
not sure if they are "authorative" i just thought they was descriptive :)
07:15
<giaco>
ok but what I need is pxe booting from this thinstation, do you think it's possible
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<Appiah>
I remeber seeing something about putting the ldm on the flash
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<sep>
you can not pxeboot on wireless without some sort of code on the box.
07:16
<Appiah>
on the mailinglist
07:16
<sep>
not ltsp and not thinstation
07:16
if you boot thinstation on the box. you dont need to pxeboot it anymore
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(or any other local code)
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<giaco>
sep, I'd like to boot thinstation using CDROM, and than boot an edubuntu client from there .. do you thing it's possible?
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<Appiah>
livecd with ldm?
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(would be the same as a live on the small disk/flash memory on a thin client)
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<sep>
giaco, you can just connect to the edubuntu desktop directly with thinstation
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<giaco>
probably I'm just missing how ldm works, it's my first days on ltsp :P
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<Appiah>
ldm is the login manager for ltsp
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<sep>
Appiah, now that sounds so usefull someone must have done it :)
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<Appiah>
"ldm(1) starts an X server and presents the user with a login screen, similar to the gdm(1) login prompt."
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<giaco>
but I think I should pass the ltsp server IP address somewhere in thinstation
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<sep>
giaco, you must configure it yes
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<giaco>
I'm going to burn it on cd .. let's see
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<sep>
probably if you want ltsp spesifics that require ldm. like localapps or local devices you might want to use a livecd /small distro that have ldm available instead of thinstation
07:22
but for just the edubuntu desktop thinstation will work
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<dobber>
i fixed my chromium problem finaly
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<_UsUrPeR_>
what was the chromium problem?
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<Appiah>
dobber: welcome back
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<dobber>
yesterdays ubuntu update broke it
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ahh
07:26
<dobber>
nothing to do with ltsp
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<giaco>
what kind of conf should I modify for ldm on thinstation? What I mean is, where's ldm conf file?
07:29
I just want to get comfortable with lstp stuff manual configuration, as edubuntu worked out of the box without customization
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<Appiah>
the ltsp configurations are in lts.conf , but that file gets read before starting ldm I think
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<giaco>
ty
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does ltsp-localapps come from edubuntu or is it just a boxed ltsp5 tool?
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<Appiah>
ltsp5
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<giaco>
ok
07:33
and which is the common way to install and run localapps on the clients?
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so far I've chrooted into the thin client image folder /opt/.. and I've done "apt-get install firefox", than I've recreated the client compressed image, and I've rebooted the clients
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<Appiah>
to install localapp you first chroot in , and do a apt-get install
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<giaco>
I see that now ltsp-localapps firefox launches firefox, but for example flash stuff is extremely slow
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<Appiah>
then you have localapp configuration in lts.conf and it should have a shortcut/menu (could be wrong here)
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<giaco>
I don't see any menu .. btw I'm getting confused, please take a look at this lts.conf file example http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/dapper/client/getltscfg/lts.conf
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and and this parameters file http://pkg-ltsp.alioth.debian.org/bzr/people-stratus/client/lts-parameters.txt
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as you can see in one you have a LOCAL_APPS parameter
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but not on the other
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<dobber>
giaco, what are you trying to do ?
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<giaco>
dobber, nevermind, I've just solved. I was trying to boot firefox locally to show smooth flash, but my ltsp-localapps was launching the remote one
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now it's wokring
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now I've to solve two more problems: 1) a client with nforce2 ethernet card not booting, 2) a way to boot a wireless client
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<ogra>
giaco, the file in the first link is 4 years old
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!docs
07:55
<ltspbot`>
ogra: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
07:55
<ogra>
giaco, ^^^
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<giaco>
ogra, ty :)
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<giaco>
ltsp problem here: a client boots the kernel, than "nbd0: unknown partition table"
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<markit>
hi, I had a debian based ltsp-rdeskop installation that worked fine except was unable to boot new hardware (thin clients with new lan nics). I've installed from scratch a ubuntu 10.04 based solution, but rdesktop works fine except Caps Lock that does not work (Win 2003)
08:41
I've googled around and seems to be an old problem, but I've not found a solution so far
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any idea?
08:43
rdesktop/keymaps/common has an Caps_Lock 0×0 inhibit that I changed to "Caps_Lock 0x3a capslock”
08:43
in cherrot, but seems not to do any difference (I've only rebooted the thin client.. is it enough?)
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i.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rdesktop/+bug/494311
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there are bugs of 2008 and 2009
09:02
<frederickjh>
I have a Ubuntu Lucid LTSP setup and I am trying to figure out how to set up a user (that logs into a client) as a teacher. Italc is working on the sever as teacher. Anyone know where I can find help on this? I have hunted all over the italc site and google like crazy.
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<markit>
mmm seems work, just probably had to rebuild the NBD image
09:12
wondering why such a bug is so long time standing
09:12
frederickjh: I don't sorry, even if I'm interested in the answer also
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(I've setup a ltsp solution for a school, but not yet installed italc)
09:13
frederickjh: what do you mean "as a teacher"? and what prevents the teacher (real person) to login with teacher username and password?
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<frederickjh>
I have a Ubuntu Lucid LTSP system. It comes with iTALC installed. Logged in as the first user created (admin) on the server I can access the iTALC master interface as it was installed.
09:17
I am trying now with another admin user on a client to see what happens.
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But I don't want all my teachers as admins.
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I get a message there seems to be no iTALC services running on this computer.
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