IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 7 December 2018   (all times are UTC)

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07:05
<vagrantc>
alkisg: anything left to push to LTSP before uploading?
07:05
<alkisg>
Heya
07:05
Hmm give me 1 minute...
07:05
<vagrantc>
oh, i have to make an rsa ssh key to push to launchpad
07:06
<alkisg>
One thing could be the new remoteapps implementation... if you agree with depending on sudo...
07:07
<vagrantc>
i have no qualms depending on sudo
07:07
i'm also not in a good position to test ltsp ... so i might do an upload but make it delayed
07:08
<alkisg>
I can invoke a launchpad build and test, sometime in the next week...
07:08
Oh anyway let's postpone the new remoteapps implementation for another release; so go ahead and tag it
07:09
Remoteapps don't behave well nowadays because most of the apps require dbus to be running, so we'll need to rethink our strategy there, how to have a remote dbus daemon running the first time a remoteapp is invoked, and all the next remoteapps then to use the same dbus
07:10
And I don't mind "not supporting thin clients" in ltsp6, but remoteapps are always handy
07:11
<vagrantc>
hmmm.
07:12
things start to freeze in january... might be able to get one more upload in in january or maybe february, but then it starts to get progressively harder
07:12
<alkisg>
About distro releases, I only care that they're stable, I don't mind if they don't have the latest stuff
07:12
<vagrantc>
sure
07:13
<alkisg>
We can e.g. do new ltsp releases in february or march, and just not upload them to buster...
07:13
<vagrantc>
sure, just depends on how well it's working and all that
07:13
<alkisg>
Currently ltsp feels stable here; I haven't tested debian recently
07:13
<vagrantc>
on ubuntu 18.04 ?
07:13
<alkisg>
Yes
07:14
I'm guessing around 500 schools have upgraded to it
07:14
(the rest are still using 12.04 or 16.04)
07:16* vagrantc wonders how different buster will eventually be
07:17* alkisg really hopes that at some point, debian will freeze at the same time as ubuntu lts releases, and after that, "release when it's ready"...
07:17
<alkisg>
It would make it easier for developers to spend some time on their software before distro freezes
07:24
<vagrantc>
i think this hard freeze is in march, which is pretty similar to ubuntu's release freeze, no?
07:25
it's basically "get things mostly ready before the new year, and bugfixes early in the year
07:26* vagrantc looks at patches for ltsp-build-client and hopes to someday not have to maintain that anymore
07:26
<vagrantc>
there's some bizzare stuff going on in the add_mirrors function
07:28
oh, now i get it ... file mirrors need to extract the directory
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07:32
<alkisg>
Let's hope this year's gsoc brings us ltsp6 :)
07:32
<vagrantc>
hmmm...
07:33* vagrantc is more and more inclined to start from scratch
07:45
<alkisg>
Oh, that's absolutely certain! I'm only having doubts on if we should keep the old name and all its legacy and problematic domain and servers, or if we should switch to a new name
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08:00* vagrantc nods
08:01
<vagrantc>
hrm. don't have launchpad credentials... hrm.
08:02
oh, found them...
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08:13
<vagrantc>
hrm. already having second thoughts about file:/// repositories defaulting to trusted...
08:16
<alkisg>
Who is using that?
08:17
<vagrantc>
debian-edu
08:17
networkless installs off of media
08:18
<alkisg>
They pass that in the command line, right? Why don't they pass the [trusted] part themselves?
08:19
<vagrantc>
i think it should support that, then they have to pass the full sources.list line rather than just the mirror
08:19
<alkisg>
For example, instead of passing mirror=http://ts.sch.gr/repo, I would pass mirror="[trusted=yes] http://ts.sch.gr/repo"
08:19
(or file://)
08:21
<vagrantc>
i think you need to do 'deb [trusted=yes] http://.../repo DIST COMPONENTS'
08:21
currently
08:21
it's been so long ago that i used this stuff
08:27* alkisg wonders why file:// repositories aren't trusted by default anyway...
08:32
<vagrantc>
they used to be, but it was deprecated behavior
09:20
<alkisg>
vagrantc: are you going to switch to NFS by default?
09:20
<vagrantc>
alkisg: no
09:20
<alkisg>
Great :)
09:21
<vagrantc>
alkisg: but enabling the flag to make it possible, since it sounds like it works again, seemed reasonable
09:21
although it probably should also have the /etc/exports and all that other stuff...
09:21
<alkisg>
Sure sure that's a nice option to have
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14:31
<mwalters>
Struggling to get UEFI booting working on my new server =/ Am I missing something? Is there a way to enable TFTP logging in dnsmasq? I felt like I was able to see "File not founds" on my 14.04 server
14:32
UEFI clients
14:33
Looking at the syslog, looks like dnsmasq is pointing the client at /ltsp/amd64/grub/grubnetx64.efi.signed, which is correct... the client just sends 2 more requests then fails, though
14:40
nvm, incorrectly assumed it was something with the server, but it's client related
14:40
I see tftp logs in syslog when I boot another client
14:40
foot, meet mouth
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