IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 January 2010   (all times are UTC)

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00:29* vagrantc wonders if a debian freeze is really likely in 2 months
00:29
<vagrantc>
i'll have to start thinking about things a little differently again...
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05:18
<garymc>
Hi, ive had this problem before, and again i dont know how to fix it. Now ive created Launchers for all client desktops they work fine when a new user logs on. Great. But as i created them with my account and i double click on one i want to load in firefox with is http://localhost/admin it doesnt work for me only. It opens gedit instead. why is this only doing this for me?
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06:31
<garymc>
Hi, ive had this problem before, and again i dont know how to fix it. Now ive created Launchers for all client desktops they work fine when a new user logs on. Great. But as i created them with my account and i double click on one i want to load in firefox with is http://localhost/admin it doesnt work for me only. It opens gedit instead. why is this only doing this for me?
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07:14
<garymc>
ogra or alkisg : do you know anything about my problem here?
07:16
<alkisg>
garymc: again, this isn't ltsp related, so it's better suited to #ubuntu, or even to ubuntuforums...
07:16
<garymc>
ermm ok, dont get much of a reply in ubuntu though
07:17
<sbalneav>
garymc: I don't get what your problem is
07:18
You mean, when you click on the launcher, you expect it to open firefox with http://localhost/admin?
07:18
but instead it opens gedit?
07:18
<garymc>
when i click on my launcher. it supposed to open firefox, but now it opens gedit instead? It only behaves like this when im logged in as me. but not when loggeed in as anyone else
07:18
<sbalneav>
So it works for everyone else but you?
07:19
Morning all, BTW, everyone
07:19
Welcome to Edubuntu Bug Day
07:19
<garymc>
yes sbalneav
07:20
<sbalneav>
ls -l ~/Desktop/*.desktop
07:22
<garymc>
http://pastebin.ca/1748243
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07:25
<sbalneav>
cat Can you pastebin the contents of one of the desktop files?
07:25
<garymc>
how would i do that
07:26
<sbalneav>
Dude.
07:26
c'mon
07:26
<garymc>
i know.........
07:26
<sbalneav>
open it in an editor
07:26
<garymc>
i open it in editor and it wont display anything
07:26
<sbalneav>
so, maybe it's empty?
07:27
<garymc>
i tried "gksudo nautilis" and that doesnt let me view them anymore?
07:27
no it works on all other peoples login accounts
07:27
<sbalneav>
sigh
07:27
ok
07:28
cat "$HOME/Desktop/Take Payment.desktop"
07:28
<garymc>
ok got it open
07:28
there is stuff showing now
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07:29
<garymc>
http://pastebin.ca/1748248
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<sbalneav>
k looks alright to me.
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07:30
<garymc>
yeah, but i did have this problem a while back. Someone on here helped me sort it. but like an idiot i have lost my notes. Not that my notes have stood up before though ;S
07:31
<sbalneav>
ok, if you right click on a menu item, lets say "Application -> Accessories -> Calculator", and select "Add this launcher to desktop", does that add a desktio launcher?
07:32
<garymc>
yes it puts the calc on my desktop
07:33
<sbalneav>
Does it launch?
07:33
<garymc>
yes
07:34
<sbalneav>
but clicking on one of the other ones launches gedit, yes?
07:35
<garymc>
only the localhost one.
07:35
<sbalneav>
ok, I'm not sure then
07:35
<garymc>
ok
07:35
<sbalneav>
I would go to irc.gnome.org, and ask in #gnome
07:35
<garymc>
ill do some other tests and get back to you if you dont mind
07:36
<sbalneav>
this is a gnome desktop issue, and clearly not an LTSP issue
07:36
<garymc>
ok
07:36
brb
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07:47
<garymc>
yeah no joy
07:47
absolute no reply in ubuntu. anyone any advice where i can check and what i would actually be searching for?
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07:56
<sbalneav>
garymc: I didn't say to go to #ubuntu
07:56
I said try irc.gnome.org, and the general #gnome help area
08:00
<garymc>
oh ok
08:00
does that log me out of freenode?
08:02
<sbalneav>
Depends on your irc client
08:02
me personally, I'm logged in simultaneously to 3 different irc servers and 8 different channels
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08:08
<garymc>
yeah cool im in irc.gnome.org
08:11
<Appiah>
wth
08:11
ops wrong window
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08:39
<netlama>
hi, anyone around for a few suggestions on hardware choices for a new ltsp setup?
08:40
<CAN-o-SPAM>
netlama: what hardware?
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08:41
<netlama>
hello! I want to set up a server plus four thin/fat clients, and am unclear about the merits of ram over cpu for the server, and ram or cpu for the clients...
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08:42
<netlama>
I have been thinking about something like 2x3ghz 64bit with 4gb on the server, with 1ghz plus 1gb on the clients.
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08:42
<CAN-o-SPAM>
netlama: whats the purpose of the deployment?
08:43
<netlama>
home office...4 clients doing different things...two as basic surfers/occasional low level gamers, one as dev/mmedia player and one as office/dtp with fairly heavy cpu load,
08:45
<CAN-o-SPAM>
what kind of gaming & multimedia?
08:45
<netlama>
2d gaming for kids, mmedia is mainly audio playback with occasional video playback....
08:46
<CAN-o-SPAM>
and why do you call it thin/fat?
08:46
<netlama>
most of the work at the moment is done on a 4yr old 2x3ghz 1gb laptop running ubuntu 8, but it struggles occasionally with some of the dtp when the graphics get big.
08:47
Thin/fat because as far as I understand it on a thin client all the work is done by the server, but if a client has say 2ghz cpu plus 1gb ram wouldn't it make sense to keep some of the work on the client?
08:49
<CAN-o-SPAM>
Local apps? sure ... that will help
08:49
<alkisg>
Sure, you can either use localapps or fat client chroots on such powerful clients.
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08:51
<netlama>
how important is it to get the highest level server possible?
08:52
<CAN-o-SPAM>
depends how much of that servers resources you are able to use
08:52
are all 4 thin clients to be in use at the same time?
08:53
<netlama>
sometimes all 4 in use, but often just the office/dtp machine
08:54
<CAN-o-SPAM>
can you define dtp?
08:55
<netlama>
magazine and leaflet production, these days mainly in openoffice/gimp/pdf writing given up using scribus now...
08:56
sometimes the existing machine goes to full capacity on both processors when writing out as pdf, or scaling photos, etc.
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08:57
<netlama>
and running evolution as a mail client with about 1gb of data seems to cause it major slow downs.
08:58
<CAN-o-SPAM>
you have that server implemented now? what version/os are you running?
08:59
<netlama>
no server at present, this is just a standalone ubuntu 8. I was just trying to give a guage of how heavy it gets used at the moment.
08:59
<CAN-o-SPAM>
oh i see
08:59
im not sure thats the best gauge
08:59
<netlama>
fair enough!
09:00
<CAN-o-SPAM>
i think your server specs should be sufficient, but its hard to tell without monitoring loads your placing on network and server
09:00
you need to take a look at Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 with Local Apps
09:01
<alkisg>
Or even 10.04 (alpha 2) with fat clients support :)
09:01
(not ready for production use yet)
09:01
<CAN-o-SPAM>
which is why i dont suggest you look at that
09:02
<netlama>
I'm reluctant to upgrade the existing machine, its a bit mission critical, and thats why I've stayed wth 8.04 lts. Previous upgrades often seem to end up in rebuilds!
09:02
<CAN-o-SPAM>
rebuilds are probably in your future with LTSP :)
09:02
<netlama>
!!
09:02
<ltspbot>
netlama: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
09:03
<netlama>
;-)
09:04
There seem to be quite a few 2nd hand servers on ebay for not a lot of money around the 2x 3ghx 64bit plus 4gb etc... I'm unclear really whether you get anything more in real terms by spending more money.
09:05
<CAN-o-SPAM>
netlama: you have a lot of factors to also account for aside from CPU ... for example HD's & I/O speed
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
netlama: i'm assuming also when you say 2x3ghz your referring to a dual core 3ghz cpu? correct?
09:06
<netlama>
yes.
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<netlama>
do you mean I/O speed of disk?
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09:08
<CAN-o-SPAM>
that could play a role in your performance so could raid, so could your router, so could your NICs
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09:09
<netlama>
assuming gigabit nics and router, raid 1 and scsi of perhaps 2x120gb
09:14
<CAN-o-SPAM>
knowing what i know i don't anticipate any issues, but you will need local apps
09:14
i have to go, i'll bbl
09:14
<netlama>
thanks for your help :-)
09:16
anyone else around with an opinion on this?
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<dro>
netlama what exactly is your question
09:28
netlama: you are wanting to know what server specs it takes to get good performance out of a server?
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<sbalneav>
!s
10:37
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
10:37
<sbalneav>
!docs
10:37
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
10:37
<sbalneav>
ah, yeah, gotta fix that bug again.
10:37
grr
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10:51
<chupacabra>
sbalneav, I dumped that address off the list. Dern
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10:53* sbalneav hugs chupacabra
10:54
<sbalneav>
back in a bit, rebooting