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yes, will do. :)
ugh yeah also what ogra said
I.e. sudo ltsp-update-kernels
(ok ok I had said that, (05:26:32 μμ) alkisg: sudo ltsp-update-kernels :D)
I bet that would have made the file edits work too
alkisg: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alkisg: ogra: yes, after the ltsp-update-kernels, the client happily booted. :)
Thanks for the help
Nice, thanks for the feedback
Now to figure out why firefox isn't working as a local app. (That one I can troubleshoot though, :)
lol, anyone have the magic to mount pts in a chroot environment?
It shouldn't be needed... ignore the warning (if it's only a warning)
alkisg: when installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, I get complaints about... well, lots of stuff
hal daemon, etc
mount -t devpts none /dev/pts
(inside the chroot)
Didn't help, I'll do some more digging...
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shawnp0wers: I don't think you should be installing ubuntu-restricted-extras in the chroot
gconfd shouldn't be installed in the chroot, and ubuntu-restricted-extras depends (indirectly) on that
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...so just install the flash plugin...
alkisg: Yes, I agree -- I'm rebuilding the client environment, and installing the things peicemeal
alkisg: yes -- I may have to re-edit the files we discussed, but ubuntu-restricted-extras was a bad idea.
The good news about today is I understand more and more about LTSP5. ;)
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who is preparing ltsp verions for varoious distros? distribution team or ltsp team ?
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Kicer86: Well, typically, a distro interested in having LTSP integrated usually comes to us.
We give 'em a hand with getting LTSP going.
And typically, someone from that distro ends up becoming "part of" LTSP :)
That's how it's worked for Debian, Gentoo, and Fedora :)
Which distro are you interested in?
Are you a Mandriva developer?
i can't come by it ;)
Can you get one interested? :)
Have them pop by.
Mandriva's RPM based, IIRC?
hmm actually the ltsp version for mandriva is broken but appears in repos
They may be able to build on top of the Fedora work.
yes it's rpm
yeah there is a port from fedore but it doesn't work
Who did the port work? Maybe they can just fix the bug?
i've reported a bug
i'm not quite sure, i've a mail from .spec file, and wrote mail to him, but no response
What patches are applied in the spec file? How much are they modifying our upstream stuff?
as written there, ltsp-build-client doesn;t work
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ah if i remember good, they just include an ltsp pack
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Kicer86, i got ltsp working on mandriva using opensuse's images http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Other_Distros
nothing is being setup, they just do 'make' in some dirs and then they copy files in various places
but you need mandriva devs to work on getting images built using native packages
cyberorg: i'm using a debian's image ;) but i would like to have natice packages
couse i've problems with coping with thin client's environment couse i don't know debian much
Kicer86, yeah you certainly need that if you want to do any modifications :)
The model we've always tried to promote is having devs from the distro essentially become "part" of the LTSP project.
LTSP's build archetechture supports "plug ins" for distros
So, ideally, what you'd want is an interested Mandriva developer create Mandriva "plugins" for LTSP upstream,
yes i know, i was trying to prapre ltsp to work in mandriva
Maintaining those upstream, and then Mandriva could just use "stock" upstream LTSP.
but too much work
and too much lacks in knowledge ;)
Kicer86, don't worry about that, knowledge will come once you start working on it, there are a lot of helpful people here :)
it is not too much work once you understand how LTSP works, little bit of shell scripting is all that is required after that
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ok maybe i'll try to start with it once again
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How can I have all non-logged-in LTSP clients shut off on a schedule? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutomatedTCShutodwn shuts down indescriminently, which isn't what we want.
there is no official method atm
lfaraone: instead of having cron call /sbin/halt, have it call your own script that checks for a file, and if the file is present, halts the system
then, you can simply have an ldm rc.d/ init scipt create the file
and a start script that deletes it
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Has anyone used squid for package caching? I already have it installed, so I was thinking to use it instead of apt-cacher... (also saves me from having to modify my sources.list)
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squid is too stupid to cache the files you want consistantly.
it tends to throw away the biggest files, which are the most important to keep.
and caches Release and Packages too easily.
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chupacabra: hey !!!!
I saw your email about the conf in Austin
been trying to ask you if you want to come to texas linux fist after march?
I dunno yet, but it sounds like a fun time
should be im guessing. We have a meeting tomorrow about it.
can't give you a firm yes yet
some of the head guys were at ohio last week i think.
ah, that's a great show. didn't make it there this year, but I've been to several of them
I knew you had
are shows not worth the trouble anymore?
well. Since i'm not doing much (or any) development on ltsp, it's kinda hard for me to go and talk about it
so, if I go to your event in austin, i'm not sure I'll have much to offer
but I'd consider going, just to visit austin again
it's always good to hang out with friends and have a good steak
I have Terpestra interested in speaking
Just had a nice steak the other day and thought about our steak night.
ah, Terpstra puts on a good show
so what you doing lately? Real job?
I know sbalneav always enjoys hearing him talk
yeah, real job is keeping me REAL busy
not real job, terp
with two kids in college, I gotta keep bringing in the money
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oops wrong window
i hate it when that happens
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Gadi: that little nc line gives back connection refused..why would that be
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cliebow: connection refused could mean a couple of things. Either nothing's listening on the other end, or the firewall is blocking the traffic.
Hey, Chuck. How are you?
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cliebow: sorry - try adding -u
to the nc flags
seems to say open for all ports 8~0
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Gadi:UDP port scans will always succeed (i.e. report the port as open), rendering the -uz combination of flags relatively useless.
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i have a question
when i go to local terminal (ctrl+alt+F1) the system asks for login and password
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That wasn't a question so much as a statement :)
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has anyone else been having problems updating chroots in 9.10 beta?
I am getting an error that dbus, hal and ltsp-client are not properly configured.
using apt-get or aptitude
Are you mounting proc?
sbalneav: everything else updated fine. Just those 3 things.
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There's als an env variable you set (can't remember which offhand, it's in the docs, IIRC) that tells dbus and hal daemons NOT to restart
since when you restart 'em in the chrrot, you're ACTUALLY restarting the server ones.
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Hi, i cannot load the fuse module
i have installed libfuse2 and fuse-utils packages
Fuse is there by default
you don't need to load it.
_UsUrPeR_, didn't somebody just commit something about that?
look at the log
when i do lsmod | grep fuse i got nothing
and when i do modprobe fuse i got "Module fuse not found"
coordinador, that's cuz fuse isn't a module.. it is built in
oh i see
do you have it?
yes i have, but i am following instructions of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
there it says that i have to check lsmod |grep fuse
and says: "If you don't see the above, then fuse isn't loading. Make sure the packages libfuse2 and fuse-utils are installed. "
(i have both packages)
if you have /dev/fuse .. then that step is useless
it should probablybe changed to see /dev/fuse instead
coordinador: That page was for gutsy
Says so right at the top :)
i have /dev/fuse but my boxes doesnt recognizes the usbdrives
oh, sbalneav , i though that the page was for ubuntu ltsp5 , sorry
Does the stick work if you plug it into a normal Linux box?
in boxes working with ltsp4.2 works fine
i have both systems at the same time, since i recently bought new boxes :)
johnny: news to me
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_UsUrPeR_, you're the kind of person who should subscribe to the feed
i will reboot with another system
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johnny: I'll get on that
i ll check if everything works fine in a recently installed system
ill back in a few minutes
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johnny: is that a launchpad feed? I am not sure where to subscribe to.
yes there is
if you go to the code changes page
you'll see the rss link
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the usbdrives are not recognized
johnny: still not seeing the rss feeds in the ltsp branch. Could you provide me with a link?
woop, found it
it's in the project, not the branch
i just got it from clicking on the feed icon in firefox
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ahh. I'm subscribing via email
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sorry, if i have /etc/fuse but i still havent access to usbdrives, what i should check?
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when i go to local term (at f1) the system ask for login and password, i try to enter but i got "wrong password"
in ltsp4.2 the system doesnt ask neither login nor password
which information should i enter there if my usual login and passwords doesnt work, even root
you need to set the root password and rebuild the chroot
if you want that
in lts.conf set SCREEN_02=shell
you'd need to set a password in the chroot, but would be better to temporarily set SCREEN_08=shell or some such, which opens a shell on tty8
and look in screen 2 after rebooting
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in screen1 i have a terminal, in screen2 i have x
oh god ihave # in screen3 :O
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when i plug in the usbdrive i got in localterm "[sda] assuming write cache: drive trough" but the device doesnt appear in desktop
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and when i do lsusb in localterm the device appears recognized correctly
but the icon doesn show in desktop , and doesnt show in ~/drives
coordinador: Did you say the usb drives were NOT recognized on a standard linux box?
i.e. not a thin client?
sbalneav, yes, it is recognized
in normal machnes and in ltsp4.2 boxes
What are the perms on the program fusermount, and /dev/fuse?
crw-rw-rw- 1 root fuse /dev/fuse
i dont know how to see the fusermount perms
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the perms of fusermount are: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root
but /bin/fusermount appeared red
Since it's a setuid program
You built the image with the standard ltsp-build-client?
i dont remember, sorry, ill check bash history of root
hopefully someone else will give you a hand. I'm heading home for the day.
ok sbalneav , thank you for your patience
I'll be on later tonight. Look for me about 9:30 CST
is there a manual way to mount localdrives?
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Help, i am in a client, i put and local usb drive but it doesnt appear in desktop, i manually mounted a local usb drive in localterm and i have access to it
*i put a local usb...
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what can i do?
well i have to go
see you bye
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When X starts, I see my monitor's 1440x900 resolution listed, but it's not available in krandrtray.
Intel 945GC chipset - good stuff for ltsp?
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Hi there.... I'm having some difficulties with LTSP / USB sticks - anyone here who knows a bit about that?
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pacifica: What trouble are you having?
Glad to see someone here - its been a bit lonely today...
Following the suggestions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
the response to: ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.213.11 192.168.213.11 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
is: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCannot open X display.
I'm running three Ubuntu servers with LTSP.... all work well except one which seems to got itself confused with
Yeah, looks like the display doesn't have permission.
By why... and more importantly ... how to fix that...
the strange thing is ... the workstations can be used normally... ie applications on the server can display on the workstations just fine
but the workstation doesn't have to seem the rights to display something on its own display?
at least that's how I'm reading it...
What's the display variable set to?
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Its not set (on the LTSP terminal)
No, normally, within your session.
The right workstation ie. 192.168.213.198:0 in this case
applications run on the server can display on the LTSP terminal... so DISPLAY is set correctly...
what happens if you do (from the ws):
ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.213.11 192.168.213.11 "echo $DISPLAY"
ok pls standby
Please note this is also the case on the server where everything is working as it should....
ie. DISPLAY not set if you ask from the WS
Doesn't also XAUTHORITY need to be set to the proper value?
Well, the problem is the remote end, not the local end.
What's your lts.conf look like. Oh, and by the way, what version of LTSP are you running, on which ubuntu?
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
I think thats LTSP 5?
Yes. Have you applied all updates in the server, as well as the chroot?
lts.conf specifies LOCALDEV=true
Yes, all updates applied both on server as well as in chroot
Also rebuild the image, updated the ssh keys...
Only localdev=true? no ldm_directx=true?
let me see...
ldm_directx=true on the server that doesn't work and is not there (so assume its false?) on the server that works
ok, so what if you take away the ldm_directx on the server that doesnt work?
Does ldm_directx=true stop local devices from working?
I'll try that... the server is on the other side of the planet so I'll have to wait until my buddy wakes up there...
isn't it bedtime yet bud?
thanks a lot for your help so far sbalneav - much appreciated.... (would you have other suggestions if ldm_directx doesn't fix it?)
More debugging would be required.
rjune: only 11:05 PM here.
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ok thanks again - will report back here once I know if removing ldm_directx remedies the issue...
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