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Channel log from 28 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<astroboy>
vagrantc: I've had the same error msg from two different local mirrors : " Couldn't find these debs: locales
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"
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<vagrantc>
do you have the "locales" packages in your mirrors?
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<astroboy>
.. with other msgs saying 'Packages.gz was corrupt' and " LTSP client installation ended abnormally"
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<vagrantc>
astroboy: you might need to rm -rf /opt/ltsp/* and start over ...
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<astroboy>
As far as I am aware .. yes .. but I don't know what is in them.
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Ugh .. yes.
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<vagrantc>
apt-cache policy locales
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will tell you which mirrors have the locales package, presuming you've got your local mirrors in your sources.list and such
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<astroboy>
yep
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Ah, I didn't have 'etch' in them, I took them from /etc/apt/sources.list ..
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So a different version from the same mirror should be OK
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No, sorry, same problem.
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<vagrantc>
any proxy settings that might be interfering?
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<astroboy>
.. whether I use 'ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org etch/main Packages
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' or ' ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian
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' or 'http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/'
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No proxies.
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<vagrantc>
hrm.
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i've never really had a problem with that ....
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<astroboy>
I'm loath to start over having got ltspcfg in order .. just the small matter *I think* of not including the kernel ..
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I think I have to sleep on it ..
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Erm .. are Cascadians from Washington state or Quebec ?
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<vagrantc>
don't use ltspcfg with ltsp5
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<astroboy>
Oh ..
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<vagrantc>
it will break things.
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at least, i think it will...
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<astroboy>
How to config, then ?
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<vagrantc>
well, at the moment, by hand.
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<astroboy>
I'm getting there, methinks
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<vagrantc>
astroboy: there's a little documentation in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/ that might be helpful ...
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<astroboy>
I hear that Cascadia is a lot like NZ ..
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found it, thanks
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<vagrantc>
yeah, i hear cascadia is a fair amount like NZ ...
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though there's also the dry side of cascadia
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<astroboy>
Ah, I found you signature .. 'dry' as in wit ?
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<vagrantc>
no, dry as in very little annual rainfall
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: sup buddy
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<vagrantc>
the east side of the cascades is sort of high desert
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mistik1: evenin
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mistik1: struggling to keep up with my free software projects while spending most of my day commuting to/from work, and then all the time in between the commuting working :)
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<chupacabra>
just finished babel. hmmm
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<astroboy>
vagrantc: sounds familiar. I'm going to have to get up tomorrow and survey the damage .. :-)
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vagrantc: How would you modify the dhcpd.conf example for etherboot ?
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.. comment out the pxe* lines ?
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<vagrantc>
astroboy: the example dhcpd.conf in the doc directory should handle both pxe and etherboot
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<astroboy>
Good. I think it should solve my root, or kernel, problem.
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Cheers ..
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<lapinmalin>
Hello everybody
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<cbx33>
hey guys, the ltsp-client-build script just ended with an error about the /self/proc/fd already existing
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I'm using edubuntu edgy...
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any ideas?
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<ogra>
cbx33, luckily the feisty version checks and refuses to start if it gets forced to install to an unclean target where the admin didnt clean up his mess first :P
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<cbx33>
well...actaully
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the installer on the CD screwed up
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and failed to finish building
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what should I do to clean up
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ogra: I don;t know why the install failed on the CD, but it did
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<ogra>
sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386
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pretty simple
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<cbx33>
oh i did that
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it was complaining about /proc/self
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oh was that in the chroot
04:46* cbx33 tries
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<tuwaha>
hi
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I have a query regarding a problem that I am facing in running a GTK based desktop application on thin client under LTSP.
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Actually this application needs to access one of the USB ports of the thin client, but /proc/bus/usb (which resides on server) is invisible to it.
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Is it possible to run this application locally so that it could access the
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usb port of the local machine. I am using libusb to communicate with the usb port.
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<cliebow_>
tuwaha:catch you later..when sbalneav is around
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<root__>
hallo
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ich habe mir einen LTSP Server unter Suse 10.2 installiert
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leider will es nicht so recht mit dem usb stick klappen
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<envite>
Hola a todos desde España
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<root__>
kann es daran liegen das es unter samba keinen smbmount mehr gibt ??
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
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<lapinmalin>
hello everybody
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi
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<cliebow>
Ho!
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<a5benwillis>
yo
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
morning!
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<cliebow>
HeeHee!
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can you hear me now?
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<str4nd>
no
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<cliebow>
weird..network seems fine but iso d/l just stops
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<Jenna>
morning all
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<envite>
morning jenna
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi
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<cbx33>
hey all
08:21
got a problem with some machines
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tftp open timeout E32
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i know that the tftp server is ok
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as some other mahcines boot fine
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<cliebow>
Yippee!!
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
is there too much diferences in the fuse installation? between 4.2 and 5?
08:49
debian
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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Congrats to Ollie!
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<cliebow>
Scott!!..Ollie's birthday?
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<Gadi>
engagement?
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feature freeze?
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;)
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<sbalneav>
Edubuntu made linux.com and newsforge!
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<lapinmalin>
Bonjour
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<Gadi>
bonjour, lapinmalin
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<cliebow>
Righto!!..guess i saw the refernce\
09:14
sbalneav: dont suppose youve used ubuntu on Sun?
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<lapinmalin>
Gadi : i make some test this morning (GMT +1), sometimes lbussd works, sometimes not. BUT i never see the content of my usb key
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<sbalneav>
No, I haven't
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<Gadi>
lapinmalin: what kernel are you pushing back to the thin client?
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lapinmalin: you should make sure that you have ltsp-4.2u3
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<jammcq>
heh
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<Gadi>
or later
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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g'morning gents
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<Gadi>
because jammcq (ahem) hadnt rolled the fuse module into earlier ltsp kernels
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oh, hi jammcq
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didnt see you there
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;)
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<jammcq>
knucklehead
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<Gadi>
jammcq is most handsome this morning
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did I ever tell you that, lapinmalin?
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<jammcq>
ah, respect, that's what I like :)
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sbalneav: hey, I need your flight info for tomorrow
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<lapinmalin>
on the thin client i have 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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<Gadi>
lapinmalin: in other words, make sure the fuse module is loaded on the thin client
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: Sure, one sec.
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<lapinmalin>
i verify...
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<Gadi>
cat /proc/modules|grep fuse
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<lapinmalin>
yes fuse module is loaded
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<lapinmalin>
what does it means "most handsome" ?
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<Gadi>
it means he remembered to shave this morning :)
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unlike me
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sbalneav: what was that magic lts.conf param you had to disable ltspfsd security?
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something like: LTSPFSD_OPTIONS = "-a"
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or something?
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<sbalneav>
yup
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you got it
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<Gadi>
was that it?
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<lapinmalin>
I remember to shave, but only this morning !!!
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<Gadi>
wow
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lapinmalin: add that to lts.conf
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<Gadi>
and reboot the thin client
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LTSPFSD_OPTIONS = "-a"
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see if that makes it work
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<lapinmalin>
No i doesn't work. Always recognize but nothing in /tmp/drives/Removable. Do i need this line in ltsp : LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/sda1:usbkey
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<Gadi>
nope
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shouldn't need that
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<lapinmalin>
i try without it
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<sbalneav>
lapinmalin: do you have udev working on FreeBSD?
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<Gadi>
yeah. then, also maybe pastebin your lts.conf
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sbalneav: we're working out localdev+RDP
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<sbalneav>
Yeah, I know.
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<Gadi>
the server is irrelevant for this exercise :)
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<lapinmalin>
No i dont have udev working in freebsd. For the moment, i just test with RDP
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the same problem !
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<Gadi>
can you paste your lts.conf?
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<lapinmalin>
for the moment, idon't find any doc for udev under BSD. I've just installed fusefs-libs and fusefs-kmod. Fuse i loaded by the system.
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<Gadi>
to pastebin.com
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<lapinmalin>
what is pastebin.com ???
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<Gadi>
you do have LOCAL_STORAGE = Y
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right?
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<lapinmalin>
yes i do !
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<Gadi>
you can cut/paste your file into pastebin.com and then share the link to it here
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<lapinmalin>
how can i paste my file in pastebin.com ?
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<Gadi>
just copy/paste into the textfield
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<lapinmalin>
i've done it. I didn't know this tool !
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<Gadi>
cool. after you submit the page, post the link here
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<lapinmalin>
OK, i'm waiting for pastebin.com
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<lapinmalin>
no response from pastebin.com
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cna you see it in pastebin.com ? I see my name in recentpost but i don't receive any link...
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I've to leave now. Are you here tomorow ?
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ok, the link is : http://pastebin.com/890705
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See you... Bonsoir everybody
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<cliebow>
Gadi:pingo
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trying to gat a sun server running..things die trying to mount /proc..saying /proc already mounted..mean anything to you?
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in Ubuntu that is
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not solaris
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<Gadi>
cliebow: sounds like /proc is already mounted ;)
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<cliebow>
Gadi: i thought as much! ill get my crowbar and unmount it..near the dug hole
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
jsut make univ boot dsk -> cat ebnet522.dsk > /dev/fd0 ? right?
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<bricode>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh that should work provided the .dsk file is a bootable floppy image.
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sh3mh4mf0r4sh: or you can use dd if=ebnet522.dsk of=/dev/fd0 bs=512k
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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thanxs
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<cliebow>
mistik1: pingo
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ogra?
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<dan__t>
%@!%@!#%^T#Q
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yo
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hi have question... what could be .. if i have test here fuse module and LOCAL_STORAGE=Y i can see flash and teste
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<dan__t>
what
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
when i send server .. clients can mount pendrives
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but can't see anything in there
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and copy something from browser
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and paste to flash
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when i see at other pc windows example.. flash is empty
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:|
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<Gadi>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: if this is on ubuntu, make sure the users are members of the "fuse" group
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
need to make 'sync' when something is write to flash
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how can i see that?
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<Gadi>
no need to sync with ltspfs
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go to Users and Groups
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or type: id <username> at the terminal
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm
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check
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biblioteca:~# id pc1
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uid=1005(pc1) gid=1005(pc1) grupos=1005(pc1)
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<Gadi>
there ya go
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
fuse:x:107:
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need change then
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<Gadi>
try: sudo adduser pc1 fuse
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then logout and login again as pc1
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm
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<Gadi>
and try the flash drive
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
biblioteca:~# adduser pc1 fuse
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Adding user `pc1' to group `fuse' ...
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Hecho.
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nice!
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ok .. i call to center to can test
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i'm 2 blocks away from there
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ok.. i including the rest clients
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<Gadi>
dont forget to logout/login
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
thanxs
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:)
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<Gadi>
np
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yea yea :) thanxs
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<One>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, Brazilian???
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
nop
11:42
i'm cuban
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so is this fine then?
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biblioteca:~# id pc1
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uid=1005(pc1) gid=1005(pc1) grupos=1005(pc1),107(fuse)
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<Gadi>
yes
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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<cliebow>
Gadi:so what holds scripts after init starts?rc.sysinit..in dapper?
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<Gadi>
cliebow: still same sysV init process
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afaik
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
One: ?
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<One>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, hey
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
12:32 < One> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, Brazilian??? <- why ? :)
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One: r u speak spanish?
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<One>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, I thought you were Brazilian because the word "biblioteca" :)
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hahaha
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no.. i guess i'm only cuban person here
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<One>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, It's the sabe work to call library in Brazilian Portuguese :)
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ops......same
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:)
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
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hopefully
11:48* One has a poor English. Arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!1
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
me 2!
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<jammcq>
http://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/fudcon-boston-2007-k12ltsp.ogg
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it seems that Warren is still very much interested in ltsp for fedora
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<One>
ow, 369.6MB
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<a5benwillis>
Whats the command to regenerate SSH keys?
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<Gadi>
ssh-keygen regenerates keys
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if you just want to update the ltsp keys, do: ltsp-update-sshkeys
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<a5benwillis>
ty
12:46
aboutto try xdmcp, again....
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<Gadi>
np: or, you can regenerate with dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server (I believe)
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
jammcq: hey
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<jammcq>
hey
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<a5benwillis>
jammcq: Im working on xdmcp again.
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jammcq: have time fora quickquestion?
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<jammcq>
a5benwillis: best way to find out, is to ask your question
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<a5benwillis>
just making sure you arent to busy.
12:56
Ithink I have it working
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But shouldnt the login screen on my thin client be the same as the servers login? Im still seeing the white collered log in screen.
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.
12:57
How can I tell for sure if Im using xdmcp for the connection?
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<jammcq>
check your "login manager" settings. by default, you get a very basic login for remote connections
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<a5benwillis>
/etc/gdm/gdm.conf??
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gdm/conf-custom
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remotegreeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
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<jammcq>
a5benwillis: what distro?
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on ubuntu, you can just configure this using the gui setup tool
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<a5benwillis>
ys, edubuntu
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its all enabled. I just cant tell ifitsusing xdmcp or ldm.
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<nick125->
hey ltspers!
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<a5benwillis>
anyone?
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<cliebow>
a5benwillis, so netstat -anp|grep ":177" shos it running?
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<Lumiere>
wow
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UdontKnow is still staff
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<cliebow>
woo!
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?
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow: yes
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<Lumiere>
cliebow: I was previousally a fn staff member
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<cliebow>
ok
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<Lumiere>
well
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I was an Open Projects Network staff member
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and then an fn staff member XD
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<cliebow>
i dont know fn i guess
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<UdontKnow>
Lumiere: yes, I am
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Lumiere: how goes?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
fn?
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<nick125->
fun network!
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<UdontKnow>
freenode...
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<nick125->
food network
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<cliebow>
Ahhhh
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<nick125->
:-)
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<cliebow>
it wasnt freaking newbie like me 8~)
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reboot..brb
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<Lumiere>
you'd think people'd figure out what fn was by now...
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<nick125->
it stands for food network, right?
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<Lumiere>
what network are you on right now
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and what are the first and fifth letters in its name
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<nick125->
:)
13:32
I know
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<cliebow>
ogra:so far nothing is borked using edubuntu-desktop on sun..
13:51* nick125- doesn't care
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<zald>
hi i already put the PRINTER_0_TYPE = U and PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usb/lp0 under /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/ltsp.conf , but still when i install the printer on the workstation it does not detect by the system?
13:52
<nick125->
I know you guys get this question about 50 times a day, but, what distribution has the best ltsp support?
13:52
<zald>
was there any other workaround with this problem?
13:52
<One>
nick125-, IMHO Ubuntu and Debian
13:53* One loves Debian :)
13:53
<nick125->
I'm used to gentoo, but, since I'm setting up a dedicated xen VM for ltsp, might as well use what's most supported
13:54
I know gentoo's ltsp support is a bit iffy
13:54
<cliebow>
not for long..mistik1 is on the case
13:55
<nick125->
I know there's a lot of work on ltsp in gentoo...
13:58
I might talk to whoever is in charge of gentoo ltsp development and see how I could help
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<cliebow>
sure:dberkholz is hot on the trail as well
13:59
<nick125->
I know there was a request for help on the gentoo-dev ml
14:02* Gadi looks around for mistik1
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14:03* nick125- pokes mistik1 / dberkholz
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<mistik1>
nick125-: dberkholz starting a layout of what the gentoo plugin for the ltsp-common-buildsystem would work I started working on the init scripts for the ltsp client but not much more as yet
14:21
Been a little busy lately as is dberkholz
14:21
Another set of eyes would be most welcome though
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<mistik1>
nick125-: You can take a look at what dberkholz was working on here, http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/ltsp
14:23
<Lumiere>
hi mistik1
14:23
<mistik1>
Hey man
14:23
ltns
14:24
<Lumiere>
yea
14:25
<mistik1>
Lumiere: You should be graduating soon, no?
14:26
<astroboy>
Is 192.168.0.0 a standard IP for eth1 (WS01) ?
14:26
<jammcq>
mistik1: yeah, like last year already :)
14:26
<Lumiere>
lol
14:27
astroboy: that is an invalid IP address
14:27
<mistik1>
my goodness time flies
14:27
<UdontKnow>
mistik1: are you the mr. cOne?
14:28
mistik1: or am I mixing you up with another?
14:28
<mistik1>
no i'm mistik1
14:28
<astroboy>
OK, I'm using 169.254.65.14 ..
14:28
<UdontKnow>
mistik1: saw you talking to Lumiere, and thought you'd be the same
14:28
<astroboy>
Lumiere: don't know where that came from but it appeared first time I ran ltspcfg ..
14:29
<a5benwillis>
mistik1: Good afternoon
14:29
<Lumiere>
169.254 is zeroconf
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<Lumiere>
UdontKnow: that is not mysticone
14:29
<mistik1>
a5benwillis: good afternoon sir
14:29
<a5benwillis>
Im a sick sick individual. I'm still trying to make SSH authentication work. Please shoot me.
14:30
<UdontKnow>
Lumiere: yeah, just found him on whois
14:30* Lumiere shoots a5benwillis
14:30
<mistik1>
hehe
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14:30* UdontKnow grabs a bazooka
14:30
<UdontKnow>
a5benwillis: still want a shot?
14:30
<astroboy>
Lumiere: zeroconf ?
14:31
<a5benwillis>
please, put me out of my misery
14:31
<jammcq>
astroboy: 192.168.0.0 refers to the 'Network address', where the "host addresses" could be 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254
14:31
<a5benwillis>
I just posted this in edubuntu, thought Ide ask here as well:
14:32
Can someone point me to some info on how to apply a patch to source via apt-get????
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<astroboy>
jammcq: Yes, those are the values I used last time for eth1/WS01 .. I don't know where the 169.254 came from. I'll use whatever works .. :-)
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<jammcq>
169.254 is a "zero conf" address, probably setup for you by avahi or network-manager
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<msaul>
Hi is Jim there?
14:47
<jammcq>
umm, lemme check
14:47
<msaul>
Hi
14:48
I got the system running quite well!
14:48
<cliebow>
nope guess not 8~)
14:48
<jammcq>
cool
14:48
<msaul>
The media works really well - and installing to church tomorrow
14:48
One thing
14:48
Sound for games on thin clients
14:48
<jammcq>
there's always one thing :)
14:49
umm, there's *some* support for sound
14:49
Gadi: you care to help out here?
14:49* jammcq sees Gadi run and hide
14:49* Lumiere sends in the sheep dogs
14:49
<msaul>
I'm running KDE 3.5
14:50
<mistik1>
I'll be so glad when we no longer have to guess on sound support
14:50
<Gadi>
heh, amen
14:50
is pulseaudio in feisty?
14:50
or is that +1+1+1?
14:50
<mistik1>
yes
14:50
<Gadi>
excellent
14:50
<mistik1>
I for sure will use pulse in the gentoo model
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14:51
<Gadi>
what was the question?
14:51
;)
14:51
<msaul>
I get sound for
14:52
desktop notifications
14:52
and
14:52
Playing oggs
14:52
But the only sound when
14:52
<Gadi>
sweet
14:52
<msaul>
playing games
14:52
is "Kgolf"
14:52
<Gadi>
which games?
14:52
<msaul>
only kgolf
14:52
<mistik1>
msaul: try to make a sentence ok
14:52
<Gadi>
oh, ur running kde?
14:52
<msaul>
yes
14:53
<Gadi>
are you using esd?
14:53
<msaul>
arts daemon is running
14:53
yes set to esd network
14:53
<Gadi>
hmm... well, if the games bypass arts (which is using esd) then that sux
14:54
you can try launching them with either "esddsp" or "artsdsp"
14:54
but, silly that they should bypass arts if they are kde apps
14:54
<msaul>
is that an option for the command?
14:54
ie. -- esddsp ?
14:54
<Gadi>
if they are not kde apps, you may need to set up gstreamer as well
14:55
(to use esddsp, open terminal window and type: esddsp <command>)
14:55
<msaul>
Let me try that now
14:55
<Gadi>
to configure gstreamer, try running "gstreamer-porperties"
14:55
er, gstreamer-properties
14:56
<astroboy>
jammcq: .. so the fixed address for WS01 should be 192.168.0.2 .. ?
14:57
<msaul>
esddsp before command didn't work - trying gstreamer
14:57
<Gadi>
bbiab
14:57
<jammcq>
that's a reasonable address for a workstation, assuming nothing else on the network already has that address
14:58
<msaul>
I got the Multimedia
14:58
sorry
14:58
I got the multimedia systems selector dialog box
14:58
<Gadi>
change audio sink to esd
14:58
and hit the test button
14:59
<astroboy>
jammcq: Thx
14:59
<msaul>
I generates a pulpe
14:59
<Gadi>
i love pulpe
14:59
extra pulpe
14:59
:)
14:59
<msaul>
I mean a pulse (and its not even 4 pm yet)
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15:00
<Gadi>
great
15:00
now try playing a game
15:00
<KeepWalking_>
hi all
15:00
<msaul>
The default input plugin is ALSA
15:00
<KeepWalking_>
is there any way to boot with RTL 8029 _
15:00
?
15:00
<Gadi>
msaul: thats fine
15:00
we only care about output
15:00
<msaul>
OK - testing now
15:01
Frozen bubble doesn't work - but someone mentioned it might not..
15:01
Trying another game...
15:03
<KeepWalking_>
is there any way to boot with RTL 8029 ?
15:03
help please
15:03
<Gadi>
KeepWalking_: does the universal boot floppy pick it up?
15:03
<msaul>
Doesn't play with supertux (I recall that had sound)
15:04
<KeepWalking_>
Gadi: universal boot floppy disk?? where can i get it?? LoL
15:04
<msaul>
I'm going to logout and reboot thin client
15:05
<Gadi>
KeepWalking_: I have to look it up
15:05
its a k12ltsp thingie
15:05
floating around
15:05
<astroboy>
msaul: likewise ..
15:05
<msaul>
:)
15:06
<Gadi>
KeepWalking_: ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy
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<msaul>
thin client is coming up
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15:11
<msaul>
I tested out several games, but no sound unfortunately
15:11
oggs still play, etc. but no sound on games
15:12
I checked gstreamer-properties and set to esdsnk
15:13
<Gadi>
try: artsdsp <command>
15:14
<msaul>
That will only work on executable files right?
15:14
<Gadi>
the games should be executable :)
15:17
<msaul>
doesn't work with supertux
15:17
<mistik1>
Wow, udev rocks so hard
15:17
<KeepWalking_>
if ubd found my card, giveme the mac, its possible that pxelinux.0 be not valid for my nic?
15:17
<msaul>
On the server (not the thin client) the sound works for supertux
15:17
No sound for supertux on thin client though
15:18
<Gadi>
KeepWalking_: if you use that boot floppy, ur using etherboot not PXE
15:18
<msaul>
after running artsdsp gamename
15:18
<KeepWalking_>
so i have to boot with vmlinuz right?
15:18
<Gadi>
yup
15:18
<KeepWalking_>
ok, i try
15:19
<Gadi>
msaul: hmm...
15:19
<msaul>
did you want me to show ps -ef | grep artsd
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<Gadi>
nah, I believe its there
15:20
:)
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<Gadi>
msaul: try this: strings <gamename> |grep -i esd
15:22
sorry <gamename> = full path to game executable
15:22
most likely /usr/bin/gamename
15:23
<mistik1>
or /usr/games/bin/gamename in gentoo ;-)
15:23
<Gadi>
someone's had his wheaties
15:23
<msaul>
I did full pathname for game when issuing your command , no stdout
15:24
<Gadi>
hmm
15:24
if the game write straight to /dev/dsp, you could be out of luck
15:25
do you know if these are games that the k12ltsp'ers use?
15:25* Gadi is not in lower education except for when I teach myself :)
15:25
<msaul>
frozen-bubble, but I think that game writes to /dev/dsp
15:26
<Gadi>
the other thing you can try is using NAS instead of esd
15:26
<msaul>
I'm trying Tux Math
15:26
<Gadi>
sometimes NAS will capture even the /dev/dsp calls
15:27
i believe
15:27
<msaul>
OK - I'm using Edubuntu 6.10
15:27
<Gadi>
with KDE?
15:27
<msaul>
Yes
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15:27
<Gadi>
isnt there some blasphemy there?
15:27* Gadi guesses there's no kedubuntu
15:28
<msaul>
Hey, give the people at the organization what they want
15:28
I'm having enough fun trying to convince them that open source
15:28
isn't communism
15:28
<Gadi>
oh, but it is
15:28
:)
15:28
<msaul>
I live in a small town - long live the revolution
15:29
<Gadi>
communism and a meritocracy
15:29
<msaul>
Anyways, do I also change the lts.conf file to indicate NAS?
15:29
<Gadi>
you would need to change lts.conf to NAS and the arts backend
15:29
also, turn the buffering in arts down to the lowest setting
15:30
<msaul>
Soundserver crashing when set to NAS
15:30
<Gadi>
yeah, kde is buggy
15:30
:)
15:30
<ogra>
Gadi, edubuntu ships gnome with KDE apps, why should it be blasphemic ? ;)
15:30* Gadi never understood kde's quirks
15:31
<Gadi>
ogra: just checking. gotta tow the party line in this communist regime
15:31
;)
15:31
<ogra>
heh
15:31
<msaul>
Gotta go, but I will check out a few hints you gave me.
15:31
<Gadi>
brb
15:31
<msaul>
Thanks for the info todate and the political support ;)
15:32
<ogra>
luckily pulse will solve most of these sound problems ....
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ermm
15:37
have a question again
15:37
when i mount a floppy example
15:37
ltsp show me a carpet with this
15:37
i work with floppy
15:37
and extract
15:37
when i insert other to can work
15:37
ltsp add OTHER carpet floppy
15:37
and not remove before
15:38
so NOW
15:38
have like 15 carpet floppy
15:38
where can i delete all that files?
15:38
i see into $USER/Desktop
15:38
and only have
15:38
floppy.desktop iceweasel.desktop
15:40
and manually can't delete by clients
15:40
any idea?
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<msaul>
Hi ogra, is pulse a reference to Edubuntu 7.04 ?
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<ogra>
msaul, 7.04 will have pulseaudio for ltsp, yes
16:09
<msaul>
So I can upgrade in the very near future and probably will solve problem - right?
16:10
<ogra>
yep
16:11
<msaul>
OK, I'll do that - I'll play around for a while on my own, but upgrade to fix problem.
16:11
<ogra>
only apps that access libesd or /dev/dsp directly wont work ... all other stuff is covered by pulse, it emulates and alsa card and esd
16:11
<msaul>
Thanks for the help,
16:11
We are installing Edubuntu into a lot of high schools up in Toronto, Ontario Canada
16:12
If ever you want to come up to Seneca College to attend an Open Source Symposium (Jim M. did a few year ago), just let me know
16:12
My e-mail address is murray.saul@senecac.on.ca
16:12
<ogra>
how far from winnipeg is that ?
16:13
<jammcq>
heh
16:13
2 hours by plane
16:13
<msaul>
Closer than Jim has to travel
16:13
<ogra>
heh
16:13
<msaul>
just kidding
16:13
all the best, and keep up the great work
16:13
<jammcq>
I can drive there, door-to-door in about the same time it takes scotty to fly there
16:14
<msaul>
WIth the cost of gas - which method is cheaper :)
16:14
l8r
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<a5benwillis>
bah
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18:34
<cliebow>
a5benwillis guess you dont want to talk about it..
18:50
<a5benwillis>
man, Im just soooo close
18:51
I started messing with the ssh auth again. tried a different approach but still not working exactly right.
18:56
ping ogra
19:04
.
19:05
Well, if anyones around and wants to take a look at my auth.log snipit of a login heres the link:
19:05
.
19:05
http://pastebin.com/891058
19:05
.
19:09
<cliebow>
looking
19:10
for what giood it will do
19:13
<a5benwillis>
thanks for trying
19:15
it looks like it should work eh?
19:18
<cliebow>
having trouble with pastebin
19:19
<a5benwillis>
its always slow
19:21
<cliebow>
this home machine has only 128 meg of ram..on a wireless connection from god knows where anyway
19:22
<a5benwillis>
the pastbin machine or yours?
19:22
<cliebow>
mine
19:22
<a5benwillis>
oh lol
19:24
<mistik1>
a5benwillis: can you paste that to rafb.net/paste
19:24
pastebin is just too bloody slow for usage
19:24
<a5benwillis>
no doubt, brb
19:26
<mistik1>
Wow, it finally loaded
19:26
<a5benwillis>
rafb.net/p/oKiIQL82.html
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19:28
<mistik1>
not found
19:28
<cliebow>
me too
19:29
<a5benwillis>
WAIT
19:29
guys!
19:29
its working!!!!
19:29
<cliebow>
with ldm?
19:29
dont know where you are with it
19:30
<a5benwillis>
well, no. Just testing an ssh session since Im at home
19:30
<cliebow>
alpha blondie
19:30
!
19:30
<a5benwillis>
I need to change to a different context to be really sure though
19:31
if ssh works, and creates the home directory then ldm should work
19:31
<cliebow>
gotta Give you credit..for sticking to it...
19:31
pam_mkhomedir?
19:32
<a5benwillis>
no, the ncp module handles it all. But I think it makes its own call to that pam module
19:32
<cliebow>
k
19:33
<a5benwillis>
man, if its true this is AWESOME!
19:33* cliebow cliebow waits for a5 to scream.NOOO
19:35
<cliebow>
ive been WOOt to BALLS today
19:35
<jammcq>
heh, new language ?
19:35
<cliebow>
yep
19:36
i got assigned a sun server to incorporate..
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19:36
<daniQ>
cliebow?
19:36
<cliebow>
daniQ:!!
19:36
<daniQ>
is leigh still awake?
19:37
<cliebow>
she is at dog class til 930
19:37
<daniQ>
ohhhhh
19:37
<cliebow>
can i pass a msg?
19:37
<daniQ>
dog class...
19:37
<cliebow>
gd poodle
19:37
<daniQ>
i need advice on colors for our house
19:37
interior stuff
19:38
yellow kitchen, green sleeping rooms, blue livingroom....
19:38
<cliebow>
weelll i am SURE i cant help..there..linen white head to toe
19:38
<daniQ>
i don't want it to look like a zoo
19:38
<cliebow>
HAAAA
19:38
<daniQ>
ha!
19:39
<cliebow>
as i say..Leigh is the one to talk to you..i am more the antique grease stain motif..
19:39
<a5benwillis>
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!
19:39
<daniQ>
so is my man....i could borrow turlough to get greasy face stains on the furnature
19:39
<cliebow>
Hot Damn! you did it
19:40
<a5benwillis>
you better believe it!
19:40
<jammcq>
a5benwillis: it workie ?
19:40
<a5benwillis>
yes sir!
19:40
<cliebow>
anytime..you can have a twosome
19:40
<jammcq>
coool
19:40
<cliebow>
write your notes down..if you have ANY idea what the hell you did
19:40
<a5benwillis>
now to make sure I can duplicate it.
19:41
I built a new server today, I can test it there tomorrow and make some documentation.
19:41
<Gadi>
use ubuntu's built in logging system: sudo rm -rf /*
19:41
(jk)
19:41
good work, a5benwillis
19:41
<cliebow>
this fro,m a new install.then..shouldnt have to think back more than oonhh 6 or 7 hundred commands
19:42
<a5benwillis>
I still need to make sure LDM will work but as clean as the logs look you cant tell that it isnt a normal log in now.
19:42
<cliebow>
Gadi: dont even think it!!
19:42
<a5benwillis>
Gadi: Thanks! I almost gave up today to.
19:43
<cliebow>
i give up every day at least twice..
19:43
blame it on Gadi mostly
19:43
<Gadi>
lol
19:44
<cliebow>
Gadi: you are working late..
19:44
<Gadi>
yeah
19:45
but, glad i was around to hear the WOOOT
19:45
<cliebow>
your family Needs you 8~)
19:45
<mistik1>
a5benwillis: congrats man, way to stick to it
19:46
<a5benwillis>
thanks
19:46
I just hope that it can help someone else one day.
19:46
I would like to thank the academy, my wife and......
19:46
:-)
19:46
<cliebow>
we'll need an epilogue..after all the heartache..
19:46
and some serious documentation
19:47
<a5benwillis>
Now to talk the guys at OpenSSH to include the code in the next release!
19:48
<cliebow>
open source at its best!!!!
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<jammcq>
a5benwillis: good luck with that
19:50
the openssh guys are pretty tough about accepting anything new
19:50
<Gadi>
specially when it sidesteps their own code ;)
19:51
<mistik1>
that's for sure
19:53
<a5benwillis>
the patch is their own code.
19:53
Its from them, just not included in the current release nor really tested until now.
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<daniQ>
night
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<a5benwillis>
Guys, can you think of anyway for me to test LDM remotely?
20:30
would ssh -X work?
20:34
<cliebow>
hmmm
20:37
<a5benwillis>
cliebow: come to edubuntu
20:37
<cliebow>
there
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<mathesis>
hi
23:02
se vagrantc
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: hey
23:06
I've got a working script for you
23:31
Well good night folks
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: script for what?
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mathesis: hi
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<mathesis>
its over there
23:50* vagrantc wonders where