IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 10 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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05:30
<Enslaver>
howdy all
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08:17
<vaab>
Just for the logs and curious: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg40681.html allowed me to use LDM_SESSION instead of LDM_XSESSION so to get my server's Xsession scripts being executed. I was using LDM_XSESSION only because LDM_SESSION was poorly documented and didn't work as expected (did same mistake than the guy in the thread of the mailing list link I give.) Anyway, I now have ibus working on LTSP on Ubunt
08:17
u 12.04 out of the box. Many Thanks for the community on mailing list and here for the kind help and support.
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<jmilot>
Hi
11:21
i search some informations for epoptes and how to use group
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11:38
<Hyperbyte>
And apparently he's on the clock.
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<ltspuser_14>
Helo!
19:07
Please, i need help!
19:09
I need to install a multifunction hp scanner to function in a client ltsp. This is possible. I've read the documentation and hundreds of forums. The documentation says yes (adding lines in lts.conf SCANNER = true), but this did not work for me because the scanimage does not detect the scanner. Thank you!
19:22
<Enslaver>
ltspuser: did you get the hp drivers from hp?
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20:27
<gbaman>
alkisg, you any idea why when running this command on debian, i get it complaining about unrecognised option --debootstrap-keyring?
20:27
ltsp-build-client --dist wheezy --arch armhf --debootstrap-keyring $HOME/raspbian.public.key.gpg --mirror http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian --security-mirror none --kernel-packages linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi
20:27
it is the one vagrantc used on his install of debian (wheezy)
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<gbaman>
or do that
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<lykwydchykyn>
Did nbdswapd configuration change between Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04?
20:43
My clients are not getting a swap file after upgrade
20:44
Some of them give an error on boot like "Exported device is too big for me"
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22:16
<gbaman>
vagrantc, sorry to bug you again (sure you really hate me now) installed wheezy, ran updates etc, installed ltsp and tried your guide again, the debootstrap option was again unrecognised
22:16
any ideas?
22:17
<vagrantc>
ah!
22:17
yes, there's a bug in wheezy's ltsp.
22:18
<gbaman>
:|
22:18
now he tells me...
22:18
<vagrantc>
the simple but insecurity workaround should be to use --accept-unsigned-packages
22:18
<gbaman>
you should fix the bug :)
22:19
<vagrantc>
it's too late in the release cycle to fix :(
22:19
might be able to fix it in the first point release.
22:19
<gbaman>
cant you just update the package?
22:19
<vagrantc>
no, we're frozen, and i don't think it meets the criteria for a freeze exception.
22:20
<gbaman>
wait, so debian software does not get updates until each point release?
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22:20* gbaman is new to debian release model
22:22
<gbaman>
so if i type apt-get upgrade there wont be any software updates till the next . release?
22:28
<vagrantc>
security updates, yes. but other updates, no.
22:28
and point release updates are minimal too
22:28
major releases happen approximately every 2 years
22:29
<gbaman>
anyways, thats a bit off topic, where would i add the accpet unsigned packages bit?
22:29
<vagrantc>
there's a better workaround, too...
22:29
<gbaman>
ooo
22:29
<vagrantc>
but you: ltsp-build-client --accept-unsigned-packages ...
22:30
but really, you shouldn't download random untrusted software...
22:30
gbaman: ah, this is related to a FIXME in my howto.
22:30
<gbaman>
so put apt-get install in front of that?
22:30
<vagrantc>
gbaman: # FIXME tweak 010-debootstrap plugin to respect debootstrap-keyring commandline option
22:30
<gbaman>
i noticed
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<vagrantc>
no apt-get ...
22:31
<gbaman>
you should add what you just told me
22:31
ah, ok
22:31
<vagrantc>
but i don't want to propegate bad advice
22:31
i'd rather take the time to give good advice
22:31
but, on my own time
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<gbaman>
but it does not work without it :)
22:32
<vagrantc>
that's why there's a FIXME
22:32
<gbaman>
btw, why are we not using nbd?
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<vagrantc>
because it's stable and reliable, and easier to make changes with
22:34
<gbaman>
but when it is finished, is it simple to switch?
22:35
<vagrantc>
relatively simple
22:35
<gbaman>
and should make it faster booting on the pi?
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<vagrantc>
possible
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<gbaman>
so the accept unsigned packages is meant to be run on its own or with the pi client build?
22:40
*on its own as with ltsp build
22:40
<vagrantc>
it is a commandline option to ltsp-build-client
22:40
just like all the other commandline options for ltsp-build-client
22:40
start experimenting
22:41
<gbaman>
but do i run it as itself with ltsp-build-client or add it on to the already massive pi builder
22:41
as the pi builder one it didnt fix it
22:41
<vagrantc>
gbaman: so, when you run across a FIXME in that document, it means the next steps are likely to fail until you resolve the FIXME
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<gbaman>
:)
22:43
so i end up asking you :)
22:43
then i write your answer down
22:43
and end up making my own version of your guide
22:43
<vagrantc>
well, lunch break over...
22:43* vagrantc waves
22:43
<gbaman>
noooo
22:44
well, thanks vagrantc as normal
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and it didnt work
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will just run it on its own
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: the easiest way is to create a configuration file with DEBOOTSTRAP_KEYRING=/path/to/your/raspbian.keyring.gpg
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i.e. dump it in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-raspbian.conf
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and then ltsp-build-client <all the other options> --config /etc/ltsp/ltsp-raspbian.conf
22:49
gbaman: ^^
22:50
that's probably good enough to put in there.
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22:50
<vagrantc>
doh.
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: updated the howto with hopefully reasonable instructions
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<gbaman>
bingo
23:09
it seems to now be happy
23:09
famous last words
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it seems to be happy, thanks vagrantc
23:12
i will leave that to hum away and will check it in the morning. i am quite happy as i just discovered gnu screen :)
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