IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

00:01
<johnny>
Ryan52, that's normal..
00:01
altho.. it should be built by bzr ..
00:06* vagrantc just did something stupid ... 1 out of every 500 times that happens
00:11
<Ryan52>
vagrantc: what?
00:12
johnny: ya, I know.
00:12
<vagrantc>
Ryan52: passed the wrong file to cowbuilder ... passed the .changes instead of the .dsc ...
00:12
took me way too long to figure that out
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00:13* Ryan52 doesn't have to worry about these things...he uses scripts to do everything :P
00:13
<Ryan52>
that and bash history :P
00:15
<johnny>
Ryan52, you used the service pack creator for packagekit yet? this makes me happy.. get a nice list that i can use to reinstall all my packages later
00:15
<vagrantc>
well, i use history too ... but every once in a while a neuron mis-fires or something
00:16
i've been regularly building packages for several years now ... never made that mistake before, that i can recall...
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01:05
<Ryan52>
!docs
01:05
<ltspbot>
Ryan52: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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02:06
<alkisg1>
@(#$*&@#($ filezilla... "[v] Treat files without extension as ASCII file" selected by default!!! Now I have ~2000 corrupted files, and a corrupted backup! Any suggestions for another ftp client?
02:09
<Ryan52>
ouch. gftp is what I use, tho not very heavily..
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02:10
<alkisg1>
Ty Ryan52, I'll give it a try.
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04:41
<Phille>
morning all
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05:35
<li-la>
hi
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05:39
<nubae2>
@blogs gr alkisg
05:40
<alkisg>
Erm... I don't see any bots responding... maybe it's mad at me? :P :D
05:40
<nubae2>
@blogs gr alkisg
05:40
@g define alkisg
05:40
<ltsplogbot>
61,900 Results | Did you mean: define balking | balking - definition of balking by t @ http://www.thefreedictionary.com/balking | Definition of balking @ http://www.allwords.com/word-balking.html | How to override library function : imple @ http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/C/Q_21996854.html
05:40
<ogra>
nubae2, Error: "blogs" is not a valid command.
05:41
<alkisg>
@g ltsp
05:41
<ltsplogbot>
780,000 Results | Linux Terminal Server Project @ http://www.ltsp.org/ | Welcome | Lutheran Theological Seminary @ http://www.ltsp.edu/ | Linux Terminal Server Project - Wikipe @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project | LTSP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTSP
05:41
<alkisg>
Nice! :)
05:41
<nubae2>
@blog gr alkisg
05:41
<ltsplogbot>
05:41
<ogra>
awww
05:41
<alkisg>
Ah, magic!
05:41
<ogra>
teach it UTF8 !
05:42
<nubae2>
heheh, yeah have to give it language settings
05:42
there is an absolutely massive list of commands though
05:42
its really neat
05:42
<alkisg>
What bot is it?
05:42
<nubae2>
@wikipedia ltsp
05:42
<ltsplogbot>
Linux Terminal Server Project | Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP) is a free and open source add-on package for Linux that allows many people to simultaneously use the same computer. Applications run on the server with a terminal known as a thin client (also known as an X terminal) handling input and output. Generally, they are low-powered, lack a hard disk and are quieter than desktop computers
05:42
because they do not have any moving parts. This technology is becoming popular in schools as it allows the school to provide pupils access to computers without purchasing or upgrading expensive desktop machines. If the school does not have enough computers, new thin client machines are less costly than standard computers. If the school does have en @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ltsp
05:42
<nubae2>
heh, how cute is that?
05:43
alkisg: eggdrop
05:43
but its running a google script
05:43
@g weather athens
05:43
<ltsplogbot>
05:43
Athens Weather @ http://www.athensguide.com/weather.html
05:43
<nubae2>
I guess I could post a set of all its commands some place
05:43
but where?
05:44
<alkisg>
In a link in the logs page?
05:44
<nubae2>
hmmm not a bad idea
05:44
@locate alkisg
05:44
<ltsplogbot>
GeoBytes Location: (adsluser452.att.sch.gr) @ Athens, Attiki, Greece (90%) [GMT:+02:00|Proxy:false|Euro|EUR]
05:44
<nubae2>
check that shit out!
05:45
<alkisg>
Well, almost... 400 Km north-west of there.
05:45
@wikipedia eggdrop
05:45
<ltsplogbot>
Eggdrop | Eggdrop is a popular IRC bot and is the oldest IRC bot still in active development.[p 1][p 2] @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggdrop
05:45
<alkisg>
@locate nubae2
05:45
<ltsplogbot>
GeoBytes Location: (chello084112076128.34.11.vie.surfer.at) @ Vienna, Wien, Austria (98%) [GMT:+01:00|Proxy:false|Euro|EUR]
05:46
<alkisg>
But using it too much makes the channel unusable... :P :D
05:46
<nubae2>
jeez I wasted at least 5 years of my youth with bots... used to love coding them
05:46
u can private the bot too if u like
05:46
just the control char is @
05:46
wonder if @help will tell all commands
05:47
the locate is really neat though
05:48
<alkisg>
@servers
05:48
<nubae2>
@book ltsp
05:48
<ltsplogbot>
733 Books | Linux Server Hacks: Tips and Tools for Connecting, Monitoring, and ...? - Page 71 (by William Von Hagen, Brian K. Jones - Computers - 2005 - 456 pages) @ http://books.google.com?id=3IgpL9lVx-EC | Ubuntu Certified Professional Study Guide (Exam LPI 199): (Exam Lpi 199)? - Page 145 (by Michael Jang - Computers - 2008 - 547 pages) @ http://books.google.com?id=Foon-3q5IzoC | The Linux
05:48
Enterprise Cluster Build a Highly Available Cluster with Commodity ...? - Page 362 (by Karl Kopper, Inc Books24x7 - 2005) @ http://books.google.com?id=wiCGoCq8n4oC
05:48
<nubae2>
hah, not many books in that area
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05:49
<nubae2>
@news ltsp
05:49
<ltsplogbot>
05:49
<nubae2>
@video en ltsp
05:49
<ltsplogbot>
41 Results | openSUSE LTSP (/en.opensuse.org/LTSP 2. Configure p)(03:02 -Sep 1, 2008 - 5 months ago - (4 Ratings)) @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCDfnImh67E | Moodle Creating a New Meta Course! Say N (networks a reality in your neighborhood!)(12:44 -Feb 9, 2006 - 3 years ago - (1 Rating)) @ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-331053054746570490 | LTSP linux terminal server project
05:49
(linux termianl server project en ubunt)(02:03 -Dec 25, 2006 - 2 years ago - (2 Ratings)) @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BYZ2UDzjDE | Moodle Workshop Creation I. Banish Price (networks a reality in your neighborhood!)(09:10 -Feb 9, 2006 - 3 years ago - (1 Rating)) @ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8746416669789868753
05:50
<nubae2>
oh didnt know suse had a ltsp video
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05:51
<nubae2>
@scholar en nicholas negroponte
05:52
<ltsplogbot>
6,660 Results | [BOOK] Being digital (N Negroponte 1996) | [BOOK] Total digital (N Negroponte 1995) | [BOOK] The Architecture Machine (N Negroponte 1970)
05:52
<nubae2>
@groups de ltsp
05:52
<ltsplogbot>
5,200 Results | bd-ltsp-testers @ http://groups.google.com/group/bd-ltsp-testers | Buzz around ltsp (06 Jan 2009 - 05 Feb @ http://www.google.com/url?url=http://buzz.omgili.com/bz/ltsp.html&ei=cQ2USfq3Gp7ikQTvz9HhCw&sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNESMXvsEk4_HsCL-iCF4mw_B_hHlQ | Forum Ubuntu-fr.org / Tutoriel LTSP ub @
05:52
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fid%3D128028&ei=cQ2USfq3Gp7ikQTvz9HhCw&sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNF0bzazC3bNXMp_S0QRQF5HxhoOOg
05:53
<nubae2>
thats french, not german, silly bot
06:00
<li-la>
I want to port ltsp5 to slackware-12.2, still using 4.2 at the moment (with my own kernel), I do have a working mini slackware root with X support ~300MB, where to start for the special ltsp packages?
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06:03
<ogra>
li-la, https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream
06:03
<nubae2>
id say talk to johnny since hes using the closest source based distro
06:04
<li-la>
thanks
06:04
<ogra>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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06:06
<alkisg1>
!lts.conf
06:06
<ltspbot>
alkisg1: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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06:21
<daduke1>
howdy. Where is the LDM default session defined? Default and xterm failsave seem to be local to ldm, while the others come from the server. The reason I'm asking is because using 'Default' does not start a session at all and just goes back to the login screen. I'd like to correct that. TIA.
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06:36
<daduke1>
anyone?
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06:42
<ogra>
daduke, it calls "Xsession default" on the server, however your server definaes the default session
06:43
<daduke1>
ogra: hi and thanks. strange thing is, if I log in locally, I get a KDE session, but not via LTSP
06:44
ogra: and neither .Xsession nor .xinitrc are executed
06:44
<ogra>
what distro ?
06:44
<daduke1>
OpenSuSE
06:44
<ogra>
and did you try .xsession
06:44
(no capital X)
06:44
<daduke1>
ogra: yes I did
06:45
<ogra>
weird, but i have no clue at how suse diverges from upstream
06:45
fedora, debian and ubuntu largely use the upstream scripts with only small modifications
06:45
<daduke1>
ogra: so I noticed, yes :)
06:47
ogra: additional complication is that I'm connecting from a Debian CF LTSP boot image to this OpenSuSE. Everything is working fine w/ the exception of the Default session.
06:48
<ogra>
oh, that might explain the glitch ...
06:48
try setting LDM_XSESSION or so ...
06:48
or LDM_SESSION, i forgot the exact name, look at the ldm source
06:49
<daduke1>
ogra: oh, that's some hint, thanks
06:50
ogra: LDM_REMOTECMD? no
06:59
ogra: you're the man! thanks a lot.
06:59
<ogra>
:)
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07:24
<Phille>
is it known that using the elographics touch driver will hangup the ltsp client? without the touch driver, the system will work for days without any problem
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07:25
<Phille>
i enabled touch and started testing, after 10 seconds the client will freeze everytime
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09:17
<Phille>
Anybody also noticed that elographics driver freezes client after 10 seconds?
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09:20
<Phille>
Hello Gadi, I've got a question for you
09:21
<Gadi>
one sec
09:21
brb
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09:26
<Gadi>
ok, Phille: shoot
09:26
<Phille>
Hello, remember I was trying to get elographics touch working?
09:26* Gadi nods
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09:27
<jammcq>
Good morning #ltsp
09:27
<Phille>
I got the screen correctly setup and calibrated, but the client freezes after 10 secs when touch is enabled
09:27
<Gadi>
good morning, jammcq
09:27
<Phille>
also, no mouse and keyboard when touch = y
09:28
<Gadi>
Phille: serial touchscreen, right?
09:28
<Phille>
indeed
09:28
<Gadi>
what kind of client?
09:29
<Phille>
I tested with HP pc's , D530 and RP5000
09:29
<Gadi>
what version of elographics driver is it?
09:30
<Phille>
ii xserver-xorg-input-elographics 1:1.2.1-1build1
09:30
tried apt-get update, no updates available
09:30
<Gadi>
is this hardy or intrepid?
09:30
<Phille>
(it's ubuntu btw)
09:30
intrepid
09:32
<Gadi>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-elographics/+bug/218671
09:32
have you seen this?
09:32
<Phille>
I found a post of yours online suggesting that a line needs to be deleted in configurex.sh, always core or something, that line was not present
09:33
<Gadi>
right - that upstream I can control ;)
09:33
but, there were also bugs in the elographics driver
09:33
<Phille>
I did also, I tried 2 patches, the first posted, and also xf86-input-elographics-1.2.2.patch
09:33
<Gadi>
and it doesn't look like they necessarily got fixed
09:35
<Phille>
indeed, was worth a try asking you :)
09:37
<Gadi>
It seems there are newer versions than 1.2.1
09:37
perhaps we can find a deb out there sonewhere
09:37
*somewhere
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09:39
<Gadi>
ogra: do you know Timo Aaltonen
09:39
?
09:41
<Phille>
I found 1:1.2.1-1build2
09:42
those are for jaunty but seems to be bad news too
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10:29
<SDuensin>
Greetings and crap.
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10:41
<ogra>
Gadi, he's in our X team
10:42
<Gadi>
whats his IRC nick?
10:42
nm, found him
10:46
<nubae2>
@locate Gadi
10:46
<ltsplogbot>
GeoBytes Location: (ool-18bbe47a.static.optonline.net) @ Babylon, New York, United States (99%) [GMT:-05:00|Proxy:false|US Dollar|USD]
10:47
<nubae2>
heh, always curious....
10:47
@scholar Gideon romm
10:47
<ltsplogbot>
48 Results | Laser driver with a safety circuit havin (GZ Romm US Patent App. 10/213,560, 2002) | CALIBRATION OF LASER SYSTEMS (MA Robinson, GZ Romm, RP Clark, FW Miller US Patent App. 11/205,334, 2005) | Calibration of laser systems (FW Miller, RP Clark, GZ Romm, MA Robinson US Patent 7,061,953, 2006)
10:48
<nubae2>
wow didnt know it was such a common name
10:48
<johnny>
@locate johnny
10:48
<ltsplogbot>
GeoBytes Location: (franklin.localmomentum.net) @ Irving, Texas, United States (94%) [GMT:-06:00|Proxy:false|US Dollar|USD]
10:48
<nubae2>
or else u've been doing some seriious writing
10:48
<johnny>
it's a liary :)
10:48
liar*
10:48
<nubae2>
@google define:liary
10:48
<ltsplogbot>
Did you mean: define:library. No definitions were found for liary
10:48
<nubae2>
hihihi
10:49
hey, if u guys want a list of all the commands, some are pretty neat, I'll link them to the logs page
10:49
things like @wikimedia ltsp
10:50
@wikipedia ltsp
10:50
<ltsplogbot>
Linux Terminal Server Project | Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP) is a free and open source add-on package for Linux that allows many people to simultaneously use the same computer. Applications run on the server with a terminal known as a thin client (also known as an X terminal) handling input and output. Generally, they are low-powered, lack a hard disk and are quieter than desktop computers
10:50
because they do not have any moving parts. This technology is becoming popular in schools as it allows the school to provide pupils access to computers without purchasing or upgrading expensive desktop machines. If the school does not have enough computers, new thin client machines are less costly than standard computers. If the school does have en @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ltsp
10:50
<Gadi>
nubae2: its not - those are my patenets
10:50
*patents
10:50
from when I did circuit design
10:50
<nubae2>
really?
10:50
<Gadi>
yup
10:50
<nubae2>
wow, how cool is that then
10:50
<Gadi>
a previous life
10:50
:)
10:50
cool bot
10:51
<nubae2>
@blog en togami
10:51
<Gadi>
oh, and it got the location a bit off
10:51
<ltsplogbot>
4,794 Results | wtogami: Kabukibear83 Youtube account De (9 Feb 2009 by wtogami) @ http://wtogami.livejournal.com/29900.html | [Summary] Ryusei no Kizuna Episode 8 (Ja (18 Dec 2008 by Celes) @ http://koicha.livejournal.com/4471.html | Stepwise Phase Difference Restoration Me (10 Nov 2008 by TOGAMI, M., OBUCHI, Y.) @ http://ietfec.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/short/E91-A/11/3269
10:51
<Gadi>
:)
10:52
<nubae2>
well, location probably difficult, not sure how it does that one
10:52
but there are a good 50 useful commands like that one all based on googly stuff
10:52
@ebay thin terminal
10:52
<ltsplogbot>
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<nubae2>
http://nubae.com/logs/logbot.htm
11:02
kept it hidden, but there are all the commands
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11:07
<nubae2>
http://nubae.com/logs/logbot.htm
11:07
improved now....
11:08
@fight ltsp vs drbl
11:08
<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: ltsp beats drbl by 779,000 to 94,100!
11:08
<nubae2>
!!
11:08
<ltspbot>
nubae2: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
11:08
<nubae2>
coolness
11:09
@ebayfight acer one vs asus eeepc
11:10
<ltsplogbot>
By results on ebay: asus eeepc beats acer one by 3,956 to 3,003!
11:10
<nubae2>
hmmmm wouldnt have guessed that
11:11
@trans english@spanish sweet
11:11
<ltsplogbot>
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<nubae2>
@trans spanish@english sweet
11:12
<ltsplogbot>
11:12
<nubae2>
bah so that doesnt work
11:12
<Gadi>
@trans en->es sweet
11:12
<ogra>
nubae2, you are spamming a lot today
11:12
<ltsplogbot>
11:12
<Gadi>
@trans en->sp sweet
11:12
<ltsplogbot>
11:13
<nubae2>
ogra: I know :-) making up for lost time
11:14
@google movie:valkyrie
11:14
<ltsplogbot>
Google | Valkyrie @ http://www.google.com/movies/reviews?cid=b8475c9274350e6a | Valkyrie @ http://www.google.com/movies/reviews?cid=be2414b35920bc8f | Valkyrie @ http://www.google.com/movies/reviews?cid=bf36bd67beca6595 | Valkyrie @ http://www.google.com/movies/reviews?cid=b38656a5de9c7dea
11:14
<nubae2>
ok ok, I stop now....
11:14
<Gadi>
@trans en@es sweet
11:14
<ltsplogbot>
11:14
<Gadi>
there we go
11:14
<nubae2>
eh!
11:14
cool
11:14
that could come in handy... wonder if it does sentences
11:15
@g define:ogra
11:15
<ltsplogbot>
Leader of another group known as the Barbarian Horses, Ogra occasionally joins Dragon Queen in fighting the Guardians. @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Girls_(toys) ( http://www.google.com/search?q=define:ogra )
11:16
<nubae2>
I have an idea...
11:16
fight ogra vs gadi
11:16
@fight ogra vs gadi
11:16
<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: gadi beats ogra by 6,160,000 to 1,120,000!
11:16
<nubae2>
hehehe
11:17
<Gadi>
lol
11:17* ogra sighs
11:17
<Gadi>
wow
11:17
thats a lot of results
11:17
and I dont even blog
11:17
:P
11:17
<nubae2>
welll guess its every word that contains that string
11:18
@fight nubae vs Lns
11:18
<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: nubae beats Lns by 144,000,000 to 2,300,000!
11:18
<nubae2>
what that cant be right.... 114 million?
11:18
<Gadi>
damn, nubae!
11:19
<Lns>
nubae2: so, does that mean you're a google whore? =p
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<nubae2>
Lns: http://nubae.com/logs/logbot.htm
11:19
theres all the commands
11:19
<_UsUrPeR_>
lol. I am surprised that the bot didn't come up with the gay rodeo again for ogra: search ogra <I'M FEELING LUCKY> = http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ogra.net%2F&ei=AFqUSYH9IJC4MoCfhIYM&usg=AFQjCNEcPDIKeB-Bsbfl_MGZKEaXm2qWQA&sig2=djiBOiSQXrd7wBdvTS7xeg
11:19
<nubae2>
some will come in quite useful sometimes
11:19
<alkisg>
nubae2: try googling for nubae to see what you get
11:19
"Nude Teen Girls Blog"
11:20
<nubae2>
:-p
11:20
<alkisg>
So don't be proud of 144 million hits... :P :D
11:20
<nubae2>
@g search nubae
11:20
<ltsplogbot>
65,400,000 Results | Search photos: nude @ http://www.fotolia.com/tag/nude | Art Nude and Sensual Photography Index @ http://www.fineartnude.com/links/cgi-bin/search.cgi | Twitter / nubae @ http://twitter.com/nubae | Re: Using nubae fatclient [was Re: whi @ http://osdir.com/ml/edubuntu-users/2009-01/msg00049.html
11:20
<nubae2>
hah! but fatclient is up there
11:21
@g search jordan erickson
11:21
<ltsplogbot>
218,000 Results | lost by jordan erickson @ http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/lost-223/ | Jordan Erickson - LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/80a/834 | # 30 - Jordan Erickson @ http://www.uah.edu/Athletics/hockey/bios/jordan-erickson.html | Jordan Erickson - Philadelphia, PA | F @ http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordan-Erickson/78202133
11:21
<nubae2>
is that spelled right?
11:23
@google en ??? logan
11:23
<ltsplogbot>
6,670,000 Results | Homemade in Logan Square/Hecho en Log @ http://www.lsna.net/display.aspx?pointer=7025 | Home - Logan Square Neighborhood Assoc @ http://www.lsna.net/ | Logan Real Estate Agents, Logan Home @ http://www.homegain.com/local_real_estate/OH/logan.html | Bancos En Logan Utah: Wells Fargo - As @
11:23
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/23915/bancos_en_logan_utah_wells_fargo.html
11:23
<nubae2>
ohhh wait
11:23
@google logan airport
11:23
<ltsplogbot>
1,050,000 Results | View conditions at Logan International Airport (BOS), Boston, Massachusetts @ http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaaindex.jsp?ARPT=bos&p=0 | <h3 class=r> View conditions at Logan International Airport (BOS), Boston, Massachusetts @ http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaaindex.jsp?ARPT=bos&p=0 | Logan International Airport @ http://maps.google.com/maps?q=logan+airport |
11:23
MASSPORT: Logan Airport @ http://www.massport.com/logan/
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<alkisg>
@google nubae you're spamming
11:24
<ltsplogbot>
1,600,000 Results | Did you mean: nude you're spamming | [00:13] <mwhudson> exarkun: https://bugs @ http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/21/#launchpad.txt | [07:34] <kickino> hello [09:00] <kickino @ http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/20/#edubuntu.txt | Ltsp Log. 8/1/2009 @ http://www.nubae.com/logs/ltsp20090108_pg3.html
11:24
<nubae2>
come on... u have to admit... the script is pretty cool
11:24
<Gadi>
nubae's just increasing his web hits, because he logs the channel :P
11:24
<alkisg>
Hehe!
11:25
<Gadi>
now everyone looking for naked people at logan airport will find his site
11:25
<alkisg>
lol!!!!!
11:25
<nubae2>
@groups gr ltsp
11:25
<ltsplogbot>
1,240 Results | ?????? ?????? Ubuntu LTSP 8.04 @ http://www.google.com/url?url=http://groups.google.com/g/1877f86f/t/6510c1ba44302a4b/d/6f6dba5cc623a944%3Fie%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dgr%2Bltsp%236f6dba5cc623a944&ei=eluUSfieAYKulQSk5unXCw&sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNEtuI15NOfc5BdTItjTPFGl44cr_w | [N-Age] -=Welcome to the DreamCity=- (L @
11:25
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://forum.ragezone.com/f115/n-age-welcome-to-the-dreamcity-ltsp-481063/&ei=eluUSfieAYKulQSk5unXCw&sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNEPgbonak-U2lLaHMUHK_9SgLh8WA | Ubuntu-gr Forum ? ??????? ??????? - ?? @
11:25
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D28%26t%3D2614%26start%3D0&ei=eluUSfieAYKulQSk5unXCw&sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNGW2Mh5GgA6gjqI1wXgogsTSwDytg
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<nubae2>
what is a .google.country.code exactly
11:26
I promise, last question, no more spamming
11:26
<Lns>
nubae2: That "Jordan Erickson" is not me.. :p
11:26
at least not the hockey, poem one =p
11:26
<nubae2>
I was wondering about that ;-)
11:27
@g search 30 dollars in euros
11:27
<ltsplogbot>
224,000,000 Results | CNN.com - U.N. to let Iraq sell oil for @ http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/30/iraq.un.euro.reut/ | How much would 30 euros be in us doll @ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070805115825AAx7qT3 | Dollar chilled by rise of euro | Bus @ http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/mar/30/useconomy.economics | Exchange Rates Graph (Euro, American @
11:27
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/graph30.html
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11:28
<nubae2>
bah
11:29
<alkisg>
@trans en@el sweet
11:29
<ltsplogbot>
11:29
<alkisg>
You gotta teach utf8, it's unacceptable... :P
11:29
*it
11:30
<nubae2>
hmmmm, let me see if i can fix that
11:30
<alkisg>
(ok, we got rid of him for 2-3 hours... :P :D)
11:30
<nubae2>
but then I'm allowed spam for another 2 after :p
11:31
@seen ogra
11:31
hmmm seen script dont work
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11:53
<_UsUrPeR_>
!seen warren
11:53
<ltspbot>
_UsUrPeR_: warren was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 19 hours, 7 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <warren> oh, nevermind
11:53
<johnny>
_UsUrPeR_, warren doesn't autojoin here anymore
11:54
you'll have to find him elsewhere probably
11:54
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: greener pastures I assume?
11:54
<epsas>
hello
11:54
what is the recommended path for installing flash on k12linux?
11:54
<johnny>
yum install <whatever the package is called>
11:54
hehe
11:54
<ogra>
johnny, oh, do you know why ?
11:54
<johnny>
busy?
11:55
nothing more than that i imagine
11:56
<nubae2>
or maybe because of my bot :-(
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<epsas>
and for MP3s?
11:58
should i use the rpmfusion repository?
11:59
<johnny>
i imagine so
11:59
these kinda questions are best for fedora specifiic channels tho often
11:59
as there are not many fedora folks here
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<johnb>
I'm at a cross roads here
12:24
<epsas>
coolness
12:24
everything is working smoothly so far
12:24
<johnb>
attempt to get our older existing video cards to work with ltsp5 or continue with ltsp 4 but upgrade to the last version
12:25
<epsas>
i decided to use Fedora because our legacy systems are CentOS -- best not to confuse the other techies with a radically different OS platform
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<johnb>
the existing hardware is working just well enough for me to see if we can coax it along.
12:28
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnb: what vid card?\
12:34
<johnb>
two I would like to get to work but they are only 16mb one is a nvida the other is intel the machines are compaq d500 and d510s we have 150 of them hanging off ltsp 4
12:35
I tried using vesa drivers and it was looking real good for a while
12:36
flash (youtube) sound OOffice 3 latest firefox
12:36
but ldm is buggy
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<johnb>
once your at the desktop it appears to be golden
12:37
<Gadi>
johnb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6713080
12:37
looks like it "just works" on Intrepid (the d500)
12:39
http://n2.nabble.com/Fedora-10-on-an-HP-EVO-D510-td2094886.html
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<stgraber>
alkisg: hey, can you do a test for me ?
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<alkisg>
stgraber: sure, what?
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<stgraber>
alkisg: can you find the line starting by comment= in italc-launcher
13:01
then add: print dir(comment) the line after it
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<stgraber>
then start italc on a network using the avahi stuff
13:02
I'm trying to use the hostnames for italc but don't have a setup here and I know avahi behaves weirdly for its parameters
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<stgraber>
so I'm not really sure which one is the hostname, the first or the last
13:02
<alkisg>
Well, it escapes @ to octal
13:03
\064 if I remember well.
13:03
OK, I'll send you some results in about 15' (I'm in the middle of something)
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<ltsppbot>
"stgraber" pasted "italc-launcher" (203 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/246
13:05
<stgraber>
alkisg: this one
13:05
<alkisg>
ok
13:05
<stgraber>
it also adds gettext support btw so you should be able to translate the Auto-detected computers with it (haven't tried it yet)
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<stgraber>
so ? :)
13:25
alkisg: ^
13:26
<alkisg>
30 secs... 29... 28... :)
13:26
<ltsppbot>
"alkisg" pasted "for stgraber" (49 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/247
13:27
<alkisg>
But vmware played some tricks with me, I see 3 times the same client now
13:27
Probably one for each vmnet
13:27
*once
13:27
(I'm testing on virtualbox, I just happened to install vmware yesterday - I'm not using it)
13:30
<stgraber>
alkisg: what's your hostname ?
13:31
<alkisg>
alkisg :O
13:31
Sorry!
13:31
<stgraber>
ok, so that's the first parameter
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<alkisg>
stgraber: `gettext -d italc 'Logon'` doesn't display translated messages, like e.g. `gettext -d ldm 'Username'` does. What's the domain for italc translations?
13:39
Erm, _where_ are the italc translations, actually? (italc.mo or something)
13:40
@g qt4 translations
13:40
<ltsplogbot>
78,900 Results | WebSVN - KDE-FreeBSD - Rev 4433 - /branc @ https://kf.athame.co.uk/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=KDE-FreeBSD&path=/branches/kde_4_1/misc/qt4-l10n/pkg-plist&rev=4433&sc=1 | RPM Search qt4-common-4.4.3-13mdv2009. @ http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/11531376/com/qt4-common-4.4.3-13mdv2009.1.i586.rpm.html | RPM Search qt4-common-4.2.3-alt7.1.M30 @
13:40
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/4515355/com/qt4-common-4.2.3-alt7.1.M30.i586.rpm.html | Debian -- Filelist of package libqtcore4 @ http://packages.debian.org/sid/m68k/libqtcore4/filelist
13:41
<alkisg>
Heh
13:41
nubae, not really practical :P
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<nubae2>
alkisg: ???
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<alkisg>
just joking about using the bot instead of google, ignore me... :)
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<mart_n>
2 questions...
13:47
-Anyone knows how to boot a Macbook (intel) on a LTSP? (it's not supported by etherboot right now)
13:47
-How to install the netboot sequence on an hard drive? (from a laptop with a pcimcia card not supported by etherboot)
13:48
<stgraber>
alkisg: italc's translation (other than italc-launcher) are stored in italc's binary (yeah it sucks)
13:48
alkisg: I fixed all the bugs you reported for italc-launcher, I'm uploading a new package to my ppa now
13:48
<alkisg>
All of them?!!!
13:48
(the translations, I mean)
13:49
And I guess there isn't a gettext tool for qt... yup it sucks big time.
13:49
<stgraber>
yeah, all of them
13:50
<johnny>
WTF!
13:50
yes therei s a gettext tool for qt
13:50
qtlinguist sounds like it?
13:50
that's what i have in my menu on my gentoo box anyways.. never used it
13:51
<alkisg>
johnny: to be used by scripts, like "gettext -d ldm 'Username'"
13:51
or _("Username")
13:51
<johnny>
i know what gettext is
13:53
<stgraber>
alkisg: new package is being uploaded to edubuntu-italc-devel's ppa
13:54
alkisg: that exists but italc has to work on all platforms, it's by far not the only ugly hack in there ...
13:55
<alkisg>
stgraber: ok, I'll test it and send you whatever comments I have, if any.
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<mart_n>
Anyone knows how to install the capacity to boot on the ltsp from an existing system (on the local drive; the pcimcia ethernet card isn't taken in charge by the bios...).
14:03
<sepski>
mart_n, move the kernel and initrd to the harddrive. and boot them with the correct kernel args by $bootloader
14:03
make sure the pcmcia card is supported by your initrd
14:04
or just run a minimal system with a xserver that you connect to the ltsp server.
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<mart_n>
´╗┐sepski, you mean that I install the base system, (a debian for example), boot-it normaly and the connect to the LTSP? sound interesting and simple! How do I do this connection?
14:06
do you have a link or a clue?
14:07
<sepski>
well you can cheat and use a distro spesifically made for just that like thinstation.org
14:08
<mart_n>
cooool! Thanks!
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<sepski>
i also think kdm and gdm have meny options for connecting to other machins
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or just google for xdmcp
14:10
<johnny>
sepski, then no local devices
14:10
so that's not really a valid option
14:10
or sound
14:10
mart_n, there's a way to get the chroot on a hard drive
14:10
<sepski>
'if you need that yes
14:10
<johnny>
pretty sure there are ubuntu docs
14:10
<sepski>
you can perhaps run ldm locally and connect to the ltsp server
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<johnny>
the chroot is good enough with just a few aditions
14:10
<sepski>
to get ltspfs and sound etc
14:10
<johnny>
no need to generate anything else
14:10
the chroot will have it all already
14:11
mart_n, either look for the docs.. or try imagine the chroot to a disk
14:11
and mark the partition bootable
14:11
it might just work
14:11
altho you might need to install grub
14:11
<mart_n>
... I'll have to document myself a little bit (about ldm, chroot and´╗┐ xdmcp) but those are realy good hints
14:11
<johnny>
but as far as i know.. that's the only blocker
14:12
mart_n, what i just told you should work with little effort :)
14:15
<alkisg>
johnny: but wouldn't the initscripts need to be changed to use the local disk instead of nbd?
14:15
<cliebow>
mart_n:i have seen an url of someone claiming to do so..i have only doen g3 and g4
14:17
<mart_n>
well, if it's more simple to have an existing system with X and the basics, and then start a kind of distant session on the LTSP, I think that's the most straitforward way for me
14:18
<alkisg>
mart_n: but it's not LTSP, it's remote X
14:18
<mart_n>
I just don't know much about distant session (apart form PXE boot)
14:18
... but, I'll need the server ressources... not just the filesystem
14:18
hum..
14:18
<johnny>
mart_n, actually alkisg is right.. much simpler
14:19
mart_n, just install gpxe to the local disk if it has proper drivers for your nic
14:19
<mart_n>
it has
14:19
<johnny>
then do that :)
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<mart_n>
but when I boot the CD... nothing happen and the diods dont lighten
14:20
so it's just copying the files on a boot/ partition?
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<johnny>
mart_n, for gpxe?
14:20
<mart_n>
yep
14:20
<johnny>
there are docs..
14:20
i've never done it
14:20
<alkisg>
mart_n: you have grub installed?
14:21
Or e.g. a windows partition only?
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<mart_n>
well, I have various hard drives where I tested things for this old toughbook, one with a whole system, other for installing bootable pxe, ...
14:21
so one is with grub yes
14:22
<alkisg>
OK, then you only need a menu.lst entry with "kernel=gpxe.krn"
14:22
<cliebow>
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Client-management/2006/Dec/msg00033.html
14:23
<mart_n>
and where do I put the gpxe files?
14:23
<cliebow>
good grief..they ripped out the informative stuff
14:23
<alkisg>
mart_n: gpxe.krn is the only gpxe file you'll need
14:23
<mart_n>
and where do I put it?
14:24
<alkisg>
anywhere that grub can see it.
14:24
<mart_n>
ok
14:24
<alkisg>
Here is the entry from my menu.lst:
14:24
<mart_n>
I'll try that
14:24
<alkisg>
title Boot from network (gpxe - fails)
14:24
uuid 6524bf3d-9214-42f9-b96d-341239a23eb2
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kernel /boot/gpxe.krn
14:24
(never mind about that - fails part, gpxe doesn't support my laptop nic)
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<alkisg>
And here's the entry for loading vmlinuz and using static IP:
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# Boot from network by directly loading vmlinuz
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title Boot from network (direct vmlinuz loading - static ip)
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uuid 6524bf3d-9214-42f9-b96d-341239a23eb2
14:26
kernel /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz ro ip=192.168.192.101:192.168.192.10:192.168.192.1:255.255.255.0:alkisg:eth0:none
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initrd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd.img
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<vagrantc>
gPXE supports pcmcia?
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<nubae2>
@g working here?
14:56
<ltsplogbot>
126,000,000 Results | Working Here @ http://portal.countyofventura.org/pls/portal/url/PAGE/COV/WORKING_HERE/ | Working Here :: University of Rocheste @ http://www.rochester.edu/working/ | Living & Working Here @ http://www.choosemilwaukee.com/living_working.aspx | Kaiser Permanente - Careers - Working h @ http://www.kaiserpermanentejobs.org/workinghere/
14:56
<nubae2>
wtf
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<vagrantc>
ltsplogbot: wtf
14:57
<nubae2>
he needs an @ or he wont get u :p
14:57
<vagrantc>
ltsplogbot: @wtf
14:58
<nubae2>
btw... list of commands is here: http://nubae.com/logs/logbot.htm
14:58
<alkisg>
@define wtf
14:58
<nubae2>
@g define:wtf
14:58
<ltsplogbot>
what the fuck, where the fuck, why the fuck, when the fuck or who the fuck; World Taekwondo Federation @ http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/WTF ( http://www.google.com/search?q=define:wtf )
14:58
<nubae2>
hahaha lol
14:59
wtf = world taekwando federation.... classic
15:00
@fight vagrantc vs wtogami
15:00
<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: vagrantc beats wtogami by 2,490,000 to 285,000!
15:00
<alkisg>
@fight wife vs nubae
15:00
<nubae2>
woohooo
15:00
<vagrantc>
what?!
15:00
<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: wife beats nubae by 321,000,000 to 144,000,000!
15:00
<alkisg>
:P
15:00
<nubae2>
it basicalls checks instances of words
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whats cool is u can do ebayfights too
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like:
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<davygrvy>
@fight install ubuntu vs fedora
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: fedora beats install ubuntu by 31,300,000 to 2,530,000!
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<davygrvy>
aww
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<nubae2>
@ebayfight cocacola vs pepsi
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on ebay: cocacola beats pepsi by 14,046 to 0!
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<nubae2>
woah
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<davygrvy>
doh!
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<nubae2>
@ebayfight macbook pro vs sony vaio
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on ebay: sony vaio beats macbook pro by 27,899 to 5,052!
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<nubae2>
hey we could set some wagers....
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@fight beer vs wine
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: wine beats beer by 246,000,000 to 148,000,000!
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<davygrvy>
@fight ubuntu vs fedora
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: ubuntu beats fedora by 77,300,000 to 31,300,000!
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<nubae2>
there ya go
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double baby!
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proof
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@fight woman vs man
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: man beats woman by 1,830,000,000 to 509,000,000!
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<davygrvy>
@ebayfight tektronix vs agilent
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on ebay: tektronix beats agilent by 2,336 to 1,792!
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<vagrantc>
maybe y'all could have a private session with ltsplogbot ? :P
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<davygrvy>
sorry.. got geeky
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<p4ch0>
@fight you vs me
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<ltsplogbot>
By results on Google.com: you beats me by 6,580,000,000 to 4,040,000,000!
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<nubae2>
vagrantc: û can actually do everything msged
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<vagrantc>
that would be nice, yes. :)
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<nubae2>
maybe we should make a policy on when we are allowed to publicly use it
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like for translation its quite useful
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<alkisg>
nubae2: does it support package searching?
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<vagrantc>
i think the occasional joke and whatnot is fine... as long as the scroll keeps to a minimum.
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<nubae2>
how do u mean?
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<alkisg>
Like !info <package-name> in #edubuntu
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<nubae2>
vagrantc: I know what u mean, if u take a look at todays log it looks like we're on #ubuntu or something
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<nubae2>
its tcl... quite easily programable
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<nubae2>
if u think its useful, Ill code it
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<vagrantc>
it would be great to get a poll of current versions across distros ...
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<nubae2>
how so u mean
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<vagrantc>
you know, to maintain an atmosphere of keeping up with the joneses
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<nubae2>
that it temporarily says distro x has so many users, distro y has so many?
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<vagrantc>
no, something that checks for upstream ltsp, ldm, ltspfs versions in each distro: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_(.*)\.orig\.tar\.gz http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_(.*)\.orig\.tar\.gz and http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/ltsp/ ([0-9].*)/
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something like that
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: like that watchfile parser we have somewhere in devscripts ?
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<vagrantc>
yeah
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that's where i pulled the above URLs from :)
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<nubae2>
what I could do is grab info from launchpad of course
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like most commits
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<stgraber>
vagrantc: I believe we have something like that in Ubuntu to monitor the versions in Debian and upstream but not in other distros
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<nubae2>
of the day
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week
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stuff like that
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so we could say... X upstream commits today, 5 deb related, 10, buntu related, 11 unknown
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like dat?
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or just version numbers?
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<vagrantc>
something like: http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/report.php?package=ldm but more brief.
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<nubae2>
oh nice
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<johnny>
it'd be nice to not have to parse the commit message ..
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<vagrantc>
actually, that doesn't represent it very well..
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<nubae2>
think we can parse that quite easy
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<johnny>
and rather have an arbitrary attribute
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<vagrantc>
but that doesn't really display which distros have which versions...
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<nubae2>
well first, a bug tracker would be nice right?
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<nubae2>
new bug reported X blah blah
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comment added to bug 32343: this should go upstream, by strgraber
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<vagrantc>
i don't want something that spams the channel... rather something that we can query when we're curious
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<nubae2>
stuff like that seems useful
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thre are not enough bug reports to spam the channel
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if only there were
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<vagrantc>
a lot of the bug reports on launchpad seem to have nothing to do with LTSP
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<nubae2>
ok, so basically, status of source versions in distros of various trunks
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but with a bot we can fine tune that
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thats what I mean
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<nubae2>
it would be JUST ltsp stuff
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and commit statuses?
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or just too many of them
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what u always talk about is tagging
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i think something to do with urgency of bugs and requests would be nice from user perspective
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or list of maintainers and responsibles
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for what
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<nubae2>
and distro/release status
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<johnny>
that's not necessary for a bot..
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the web page says it fine
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<nubae2>
im still not really sure what gentoo is getting close means :p
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but let say... I do @bugs ubuntu open
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all private of course
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<johnny>
is that really helpful to anybody tho?
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<nubae2>
sure... someone comes on and says
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need help with x, x doesnt work
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and one thing for sure.... @lts variables xorg
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<johnny>
searching bug summaries does not tend to be useful..
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and can you really say @bugs distro ?
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i didn't know the launchpad tracker would let you do that..
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<nubae2>
the info is there
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at least for debian and ubuntu, and I guess for fedora too somewhere
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anyway, whatever... if u guys think of something, I'll put it in, in the mean time I'll shut up
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<johnny>
oh.. you mean searching their trackers directly?
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<nubae2>
yes
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<johnny>
not launchpad?
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<nubae2>
anything
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the bot can scour anything
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hence ebay, google, etc
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like what would be nice to know, without constantly checking launchpad would be release versions for various trunks
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or.... @responsible strgraber
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and it says what he is working on and is responsible for
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<nubae2>
@branches vagrantc
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just gotta think what would be really useful to us
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<alkisg>
stgraber: Great job, it works fine! One minor thing, if you could check for "$HOME=/tmp/guest-home.*" (or use some other method) in ica-launcher and not launch ica in this case, to avoid the "ISD server already started" dialog in guest sessions.
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<nubae2>
or how about bug reports straight from a /priv message
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making them I mean
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<alkisg>
stgraber: or better yet, check if the port is in use, and log a warning message instead of trying to start ica.
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<stgraber>
alkisg: ok, will check if and how I can do that, ideally, it should just use another port
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<alkisg>
ty :)
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<davygrvy>
I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600E that I'd like to experiment with trying to lan-boot it from my ubuntu machine. BIOS says the 600E support lan-boot. What pieces do I need to assemble to get it to boot into ubuntu as a thin client?
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<mart_n>
johnny, about this boot issue... I thought about it; why not just copy the content of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 to a partition on the client and boot from it? wouldn't it work?
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<Gadi_eeepc>
mart_n: you would need a bootloader
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<mart_n>
there isn't one in the client image?
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<Gadi_eeepc>
nope
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<mart_n>
hum
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<nubae2>
hey, for Jaunty, whats the recommended vm?
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kvm?
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i heard virtualbox is giving some problems
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<mart_n>
grub is a boot loader?
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<Gadi_eeepc>
mart_n: you could: copy /opt/ltsp/i386 to the hard drive, install grub, enable networking and that may work
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<nubae2>
and does alternate work with ltsp yet?
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<jammcq>
hellooooo #ltsp
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<aglio2>
hey
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<erechm>
I'm completely new to this, so please let me know if there is a better place to start...I'm trying out K12Linux on a USB drive. I've gone through the setup guide to setup the server, but I cannot get the client to connect. The client has a FoxConn motherboard and I've changed the BIOS to boot to "Legacy LAN" first. It just skips it though and boots right into Vista. Am I missing something simple? Is there a guide to the Client setup
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<nubae2>
u should be booting from the usb stick on the server first
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u are doing that right?+
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<erechm>
yes
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<Ryan52>
hmm.
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check the boot order in bios.
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make sure netboot is at the top.
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failing that, try a etherboot floppy or gpxe or sometihng.
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<erechm>
It is "Legacy LAN", then "CD" then, "Hard Disk"
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<nubae2>
maybe no pxe
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<erechm>
what is gpxe?
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<Ryan52>
try gpxe.
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it's something that you download and put on a floppy.
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<erechm>
where do I find it?
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<nubae2>
or a cd
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@g gpxe
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<ltsplogbot>
24,400 Results | start - Etherboot/gPXE Wiki @ http://www.etherboot.org/ | howtos - Etherboot/gPXE Wiki @ http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/howtos | YouTube - gPXE: Modern FOSS Network Bo @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GofOqhO6VVM | freshmeat.net: Project details for gPXE @ http://freshmeat.net/releases/272473/
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<erechm>
ahh, so I put gpxe on a CD and boot from the CD?
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<nubae2>
now tell me the bot aint useful :p
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yep
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<erechm>
;-) THANKS
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<Ryan52>
erechm, ya, you have the cleint boot from cd.
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<nubae2>
or floppy or usb
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<alkisg>
or hard disk, putting grub4dos into the vista boot manager :)
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<erechm>
ahh, good tip on the grub4dos. thanks alkisg
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