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Channel log from 22 October 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg_work>
Good morning
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<Kicer86>
hi
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<art>
Hello, I installed a local app in my chroot, why do I still need to ltsp-localapps xterm, gnomebaker, every time I launch it? Thanks.
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<alkisg_work>
You shouldn't have to, if you've set LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True in lts.conf
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<bulletxt>
hi, for some reason this isnt working: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get update
04:29
the connection stays to 0
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<jhutchins_lt>
I thought I had this working before, but how do I set up a default auto-login, but still make it possible for that user to log out and a different user log in?
04:32
I can do it if I'm using kdm for the login manager, and I _thought_ I had it working with ldm.
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<alkisg_work>
bulletxt: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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<bulletxt>
alkisg_work: thanks let me try that
04:35
<alkisg_work>
jhutchins_lt: LDM_AUTOLOGIN, LDM_USERNAME, LDM_PASSWORD - doesn't that give you a chance to logout and login again using a different user?
04:35
<bulletxt>
alkisg_work: thanks... its working now:)
04:35
<alkisg_work>
yw
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<jhutchins_lt>
alkisg_work: No, if I end the session it just logs back in.
04:37
<alkisg_work>
jhutchins_lt: hmmm... there's also a timed login option, maybe you could use that to let you login in e.g. 30 seconds :)
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<alkisg_work>
!learn lts-parameters as http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/head%3A/server/doc/lts-parameters.txt
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<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
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<alkisg_work>
!lts-parameters
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<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: "lts-parameters" is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/head%3A/server/doc/lts-parameters.txt
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<alkisg_work>
jhutchins_lt: LDM_LOGIN_TIMEOUT, http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#id2699474
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!manual
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<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: Error: "manual" is not a valid command.
04:54
<alkisg_work>
!learn manual as at http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html
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<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
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<art>
Hi alkisg, thanks for that info, LOCAL_APPS = True
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LOCAL_APPS_MENU = True
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LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = mplayer, gnomebaker
05:02
But gnomebaker won't burn cd if I run it from menu, but from xterm, it burns effortlessly
05:02
The reason I ask this is because my officemates don't know how to xterm :)
05:05
Or maybe the error is in the menu?
05:08
Hi, can you pls. reply when I'm online again? I'll go home for now, thanks ltsp channel guys!
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<bulletxt>
does a good gpu on ltsp make a difference?
05:46
does ltsp take advantage of the gpu?
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<cyberorg>
bulletxt, not unless you have graphics intensive localapp
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<bulletxt>
what do you mean for graphics intensive? software using opengl?
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<cyberorg>
yes
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<bulletxt>
ok thanks, so general use in clients like firefox or opening up openoffice doesn't matter if my gpu is 128mb or 512
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<bulletxt>
what's SEARCH_DOMAIN in lts.conf?
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<cyberorg>
bulletxt, remove it, not required unless you run a dns server of your own, it appends domain name after hostname if none is given
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<bulletxt>
cyberorg: i'm using dnsmasq
06:19
so i can remove that line
06:19
right?
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cyberorg: im trying to make firefox go on internet as localapp
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<cyberorg>
yes, remove it
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<bulletxt>
ok, what about DNS_SERVER ?
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<cyberorg>
that you need, if your dhcp server is not sending one already
06:22
<bulletxt>
im using dnsmasq, should I keep that line?
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<cyberorg>
if you have configured dnsmasq to give out DNS_SERVER remove it otherwise use DNS_SERVER=yourdnsserverip or 208.67.222.222
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<bulletxt>
dnsmask is not giving out a dns_server, so I'll leave that line in lts.conf
06:25
thanks
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06:30* stgraber is leaving for the hackfest, see you guys there
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<cyberorg>
stgraber, have a lot of fun :)
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<garymc>
Hi Guys Firefox is open but wont let me open it again, it says i need to close firefox or restart system. How do i close firefox when i cant see it open anywhere?
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<bulletxt>
hi, i installed firefox locally but as you already know it wont connect to internet. I'm using dnsmask, can someone help me? thanks
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<alkisg>
"as you already know"? :)
07:42
<bulletxt>
:)
07:42
lol
07:42
alkisg: please give me one of your great tips to make firefox connect :)
07:43
<alkisg>
Did you put DNS_SERVER and SEARCH_DOMAIN in lts.conf?
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<bulletxt>
im not sure what to put for SEARCH_DOMAIN
07:43
<alkisg>
bulletxt: you know, reading the docs is usually *faster* than irc in most cases :D lol
07:43
What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
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If you don't have anything, you may put "local"...
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<bulletxt>
# Generated by NetworkManager
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domain home
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search home
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nameserver 192.168.1.1
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<alkisg>
OK, SEARCH_DOMAIN="home" it is then
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<bulletxt>
and what about dns_server ?
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<alkisg>
192.168.1.1
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<bulletxt>
ok, do I have to rebuild the image?
07:45
<alkisg>
No
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<bulletxt>
ok
07:50
alkisg: great... you're the best :) its working
07:50
<alkisg>
;)
07:52
<bulletxt>
now everything is working with ubuntu 9.04 64bit
07:52
there is one last thing for me to do.. something very "odd"
07:53
alkisg: do you by chance know ies4linux?
07:53
<alkisg>
My God, people are putting Firefox on Windows, and you want to put IE on Linux?
07:54
Anyway I've never used it. I think winedoors has an IE version packed, though...
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<bulletxt>
ok because, ies4linux installs ie in the users home
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instead Ide like to install it into system so then all clients have it
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<alkisg>
What is lde?
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<bulletxt>
ops, I'de like
07:59
<alkisg>
Ah, I'd :)
07:59
And ies4linux does that?
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<bulletxt>
ies4linux installs ie to users local home
08:00
this forces me to login with to all users and install it
08:00
i want to install it once in a way that all users see it
08:01
should I try installing winedoors?
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<alkisg>
I don't know, I don't use IE on wine. Installing wine programs for all users can be tricky, though...
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<bulletxt>
yea :(
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<maramau>
hi all!!
08:26
please i need to run ltsp in a network with a server dhcp already running,
08:27
erver without dhcp?
08:27
*server
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<alkisg>
maramau: if the thin clients are going to be in an isolated subnet (=the suggested setup), then an existing dhcp server present no problem...
08:30
<maramau>
alkisg, thin client are attachhed directly to the DSL/router, with his server
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<alkisg>
maramau: I've been successfully using this method in a similar setup like yours: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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<maramau>
because the class is in dual boot with windows (( :( )
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<alkisg>
maramau: ah, if you can modify the existing dhcp server, then do that instead
08:31
<maramau>
thank you very much i'll look
08:31
<alkisg>
E.g. if it's a windows dhcp server, just add the boot filename there
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(in my case the dhcp server is a cheap router, so I can't provide a boot filename with it)
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<maramau>
alkisg, i think this is THE guide!!
08:34
alkisg, another question:
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<alkisg>
shoot
08:34
<maramau>
can i run ltsp under fastweb (do you know?)
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<alkisg>
I don't know what fastweb is
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<maramau>
ok, you already do a lot!
08:36
now i try see you later
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<dro>
I have an internal speaker that does more than beep, whenever I listen to music on my headphones it also plays through that speaker, I would like to disable it or find a way to have it shut off if I plug my headphones in
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<cliebow>
anyone here at bts???
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<dro>
no :(
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<cliebow>
guess i'll go see if they want to go for q boatride..
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<dro>
anyone have any experience in using IEC958
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for sound?
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<dro>
what would be the best way to load drivers for IEC958 (intel sound card)
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<dro>
what would be the best way to load drivers for IEC958 (intel sound card)
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<cliebow>
dro:the whole gang should be here in a couple hours..i think i just saw ogra...
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<dro>
cliebow: cool ty, I will check back in a bit
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hey all
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<cliebow>
ho..just me holding the fort
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<johnny>
i thought i saw your momma's thin client around the corner
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/me looks for Gadi
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thing is.. i have to keep doing that occasionally so gadi will know i still exist
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<cliebow>
8~)
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<profes>
help
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cannot login from terminals
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<_UsUrPeR_>
cliebow: are you at BTS right now?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
:P
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<cliebow>
i am in the lobby
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<_UsUrPeR_>
how's everything going? good times all around I assume? :)
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<PMantis>
Everyone running out to get their copy of win 7 yet? ROFL
13:16
hi cliebow
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<cliebow>
davidj and godfather just drove in..and Ollie is here..
13:16
Hi Steve nice to hear from you..
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<PMantis>
hi rjune
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<cliebow>
have you tried win7?
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heh ww wont even support vista
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<rjune>
PMantis,
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sup
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<PMantis>
No, read about it... but eventually I'll have to know it to support customers
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<cliebow>
stable..or typical..
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<johnny>
when i get a new computer.. i'll probably keep win7 license and virtualize it
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<PMantis>
rjune: busy, busy... but get to be a geek most of the time, so it's fun. :)
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<johnny>
rather than go through the hassle of getting 50 bucks or whatever
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<cliebow>
johnny, good idea..
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<PMantis>
johnny: That's what i usually do. Ubuntu primary, use the OEM license for a VM.
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<johnny>
thsi computer i'm using is 5 years old.. so i'd be stuck with xp license..
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<PMantis>
But, every once in a while, to flash the BIOS or something, you'll need windoze on a hd.
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<johnny>
depends on if you pick your computer properly :)
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<PMantis>
lol
13:19
sure
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<johnny>
iirc dell has options to for bios flashing from linux
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<johnny>
and of course some still do the msdos floppy thing
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<PMantis>
Yeaaaaah, that's rather antiquated
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<johnny>
or cdthing.. whatever
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<cliebow>
rjune: guess we will miss you this time around (and Steve)
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<PMantis>
sbalneav: You guys make it to Maine?
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<johnny>
i'll never buy a computer that requires windows for bios flashing..
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<cliebow>
i think he is vurtual atm
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<profes>
cannot login from terminals
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<rjune>
cliebow, yes.
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<cliebow>
ron says he should be here any second
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<profes>
help
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<johnny>
profes, you need to provide more information
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distro, what you're trying to do
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etc
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<PMantis>
I couldn't resist popping in and rattling everyone about this... but hey... one week later is the release of a better O/S!
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<cliebow>
when??
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<johnny>
PMantis, and 3 weeks later is the release of a better OS :)
13:22
jk..
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<cliebow>
guess i could ask ogra
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<johnny>
it will be fedora 12
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<profes>
when i have to do ltsp-pdate-image?
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<cliebow>
when you change something
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<profes>
reboot
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<cliebow>
?
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<johnny>
lol
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yes.. reboot..
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<PMantis>
johnny: What's in 3 weeks?
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<johnny>
PMantis, only joking about fedora 12 release
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altho it won't matter much.. i've been running the alpha since august
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<PMantis>
Ahhhhh
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<johnny>
for me anyways
13:30
3 weeks after the ubuntu release
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<stgraber>
ogra: in SW harbor already ?
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<ogra>
yup
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when do you guys arrive ?
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<stgraber>
ok, we're in Bangor at the moment, picking up someone in 30min, then going to SW habor
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<ogra>
ah
14:02* ogra skipped breakfast and lunch and starts gerring hungry :)
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<ogra>
*getting
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<stgraber>
I'd expect to be there at 5:30pm if we don't get lost
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we had some troubles this morning due to some detours on the road and not having a gps (only some google maps on my laptop) ;)
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<ogra>
thats bad, my n900 got me nicely from portland to seawall :)
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<jhutchins_lt>
alkisg: Thanks.
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<stgraber>
ogra: ... still waiting for them to be available at good price here to get myself one ;)
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<ogra>
well, mine is builtin in the n900 phone :)
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i think all bigger nokia phones have GPS nowadays
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stgraber, do you know when jim and scott planned to arrive ?
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<stgraber>
nope, last time they arrived quite late, we were back from dinner when they arrived
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<ogra>
i tried to text jim, but the mobile network here sucks
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<jhutchins_lt>
ogra: A lot of phones have gps but don't give the user access to it.
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<ogra>
jhutchins_lt, yeah, sadly
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<dro>
ahhh looks like everyone is back on today!
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<stgraber>
ogra: what's jim's number ? I have some 3G network here
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<ogra>
hmm, looks like a new suburban just stopped in front of the house ... i bet thats jim :)
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<stgraber>
probably yeah ;)
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<dro>
I am having a sound card issue with Intel IEC958, the client showed no snd_* modules enabled using lsmod, I blacklisted pcspkr
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<stgraber>
do we have access to the hackfest building already ? I'm bringing enough stuff to have decent networking+wireless+mirror+ltsp-cluster, so it'd be great if we can directly install that or at least dump that here when we arrive
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<dro>
My initial problem is that any sound (music, video) comes out the speakers and internal speaker
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<fasthans>
hello everyone.
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<fasthans>
I found in launchpad a bug from november 2008 which is marked as NEW!?
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<asmok>
ogra: What is schedule for tomorrow, do know it yet? Are you around 13-15 (here Finland 20-22) working or having some other fun to do - eating perhaps?
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<stgraber>
ok, getting the guy now, then heading to SW habor, see you there in 2 hours or so
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<dro>
channel reset?
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14:43* vagrantc waves to the BTSers from the other side of the continent
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<coordinador>
help
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hi
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<coordinador>
When i plug a usbdrive in any terminal, the icon appear in the terminal where root are logged in
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(but not in the terminal where the usbdrive was plugded)
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*plugged
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any ideas?
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<coordinador>
i think the problem is that i havent fuse running
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lsmod | grep fuse i got nothing
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please, how can i fix it?
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i have /dev/fuse ok, and installed both packages needed
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<jhutchins_lt>
coordinador: What distribution?
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<coordinador>
ubuntu 9.04 ltsp5
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<coordinador>
jhutchins_lt, do you have any idea how can i make that fuse runs?
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<jhutchins_lt>
coordinador: There is a page about it on the wiki - local devices. I've worked through it once or twice, but then the device I needed to test it with went out of town for a week...
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<coordinador>
ok, thanks
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<dro>
coordinador: have you updated your chroot?
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<coordinador>
mmm no
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but the system is pretty recent, maybe a week ago or less
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<dro>
coordinador: update your chroot, that will mostly likely resolve your local usb drive problems
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<coordinador>
what about if there is users working? it will affect the sessions?
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<dro>
no
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but
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if a client reboots
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<dro>
it will fail to boot while you are running sudo ltsp-update-image
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so update the chroot and get everything ready
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and when you think is the best time to spend about 10 minutes building the new image and have a couple minutes afterward to test, issue the "sudo ltsp-update-image"
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<coordinador>
oh, i though that update chroot was sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and then sudo aptitude update
15:29
<dro>
coordinador: add this page to your favorites: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
15:29
it has a ton of helpful info for LTSP+Ubuntu
15:29
it has a section on how to update your chroot
15:30
<coordinador>
ok, i will do the ltsp-update-image command
15:30
<dro>
coordinador: no you misunderstood
15:30
coordinador: read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
15:30
that will have all the howto links
15:30
<coordinador>
ok dro , ill check
15:30
<dro>
and the first one is How to update your chroot
15:30
<coordinador>
found
15:30
<dro>
excuse me, it says "UpdatingChroot"
15:31
<coordinador>
oh god so many scary steps
15:31
<]Oscar>
hi, a question. I'm new about ltsp: how are used script in /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/ ?
15:32
<dro>
coordinador: trust me, just read the instructions and follow the commands it everything will be fine
15:32
<coordinador>
ok, thank you
15:32
dro, is there a way to run fuse manually?
15:32
<dro>
coordinador: I am not familiar with that
15:32
<coordinador>
ok, thanks again
15:33
<dro>
]Oscar: I believe that is where they put out plugins across all distros that are LTSP specific not distro specific
15:34
]Oscar: a good example of that might be, if fedora and ubuntu mount a cdrom with different commands
15:36
<]Oscar>
dro: ok. but he ones in Ubuntu, for example. generating a new image, can i select some of such scripts, or they are even used?
15:36
<dro>
]Oscar: what are you trying to do? change a script? use a script for something eles? or write a script?
15:37
]Oscar: maybe you are wanting to know which scripts to use?
15:38
<]Oscar>
i'll be more specific. I did an mythtv diskless client, using the Mythbuntu Control Center. Now I started again from scratch, and I don't wanto to use the MCC again. I tryed to make a diskless client, but it works as a thin client, running application on server.
15:38
I remember that via MCC all applications was running on clients...
15:38
can be the use of 030-mythtv script the difference?
15:39
<dro>
]Oscar: not sure, will have to talk to whoever wrote that script
15:39
]Oscar: sounds like you are trying to get local apps working again right?
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<]Oscar>
ok,.. so, I'd like to undestand more about creating a new mage :)
15:39
mage=image
15:40
<dro>
]Oscar: sorry I can't help you much with that
15:40
try talking to alkisg, ogra, or Gadi when they are on
15:40
<]Oscar>
thans :)
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<coordinador>
when i try to do chroot at /opt/ltsp/i386 i get id: cannot find name for group ID
16:00
and the system doesnt let me do
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<LaserJock>
everybody at the Seawall yet?
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<ogra_>
LaserJock, a good bunch of us, yes
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<LaserJock>
ogra_: is sbalneav and Jim there?
18:36
<ogra_>
indeed they are
18:37
jim is just setting up the network in the conference room with stgraber
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<bieb>
what time do we gather in the morning??
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<ogra>
bieb, whenever we feel like :)
18:48
<bieb>
lol
18:48
that could make for a late morning
18:48
<ogra>
well, depends on the night before i'd say ;)
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<bieb>
rough estimate on time? 9ish? 8ish?
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<Lns>
hey guys!! Wish I could be over there, hope you all are having a blast =)
19:00
Just make sure to have lap dances for everyone just like Yahoo did, that way LTSP will make headlines ;) http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=16570
19:01
<scottmaccal>
hey all, looking forward to meeting you all
19:01
<bieb>
Lns: I thought you were coming?
19:02
<Lns>
bieb: no, i was going to but ran out of cash to make it unfortunately :(
19:02
<bieb>
I understand
19:02
<scottmaccal>
Hope I don't miss much Thursday. Be in Friday night.
19:02
<bieb>
if the school hadnt paid.. I wouldnt be here either
19:03
<Lns>
wow, that's cool they paid for your trip! :)
19:03
Take lots of pics/vids for those who couldn't make it pls :)
19:04
I'm going to upload a "preview" (not finished yet) vid regarding ltsp/linux thin clients that i've been helping make for you guys to see while you're there, if you'd like
19:04
<scottmaccal>
I wasn't sure I'd be able afford to attend either but it is in my state so that helps. :-)
19:05
<Lns>
scottmaccal: ;) close geolocality always helps!
19:05
<scottmaccal>
yeah.
19:05
<bieb>
true
19:06
<scottmaccal>
I thankful for the invite from David.
19:07
<Lns>
http://logicalnetworking.net/other/linuxthinclients-preview.mov -- remember it's not finished yet, but it's coming along nicely :)
19:08
<scottmaccal>
bieb and Lns, where are you located?
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<Lns>
scottmaccal: i'm in northern california
19:08
<bieb>
scottmaccal: Atlanta
19:08
<Lns>
lol
19:08
<bieb>
:)
19:08
he asks then leaves.. LOL
19:08
<Lns>
and now i'm out of my office =) talk to you guys later!
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<bieb>
scottmaccal: Atlanta, Georgia
19:09
<Lns>
scottmaccal: i'm in northern california
19:09
bye all!
19:09
have fun
19:09
<scottmaccal>
bye
19:09
<Lns>
drink a pint for me
19:09
<scottmaccal>
yeah
19:09
<bieb>
consider it done Lns
19:10
<Lns>
;) cheers
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<bart23>
Hi, good morning everyone from the pacific here.
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<scottmaccal>
morning
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<dtrask>
hey
19:24
<scottmaccal>
hi david
19:24
<dtrask>
I'll prolly be there around 5 tomorrow...leaving right after school
19:24
scottmaccal: are you at BTS yet?
19:25
<scottmaccal>
no. I have school too.
19:25
<dtrask>
chrisinajar: where is everybody?
19:25
<scottmaccal>
leaving Friday. hope to be there between 6 and 6:30.
19:26
<dtrask>
I'm guessing they're out to dinner
19:26
<scottmaccal>
yeah
19:26
david
19:27
<LaserJock>
I'm guessing I'll be there in the evening tomorrow, it's going to be a 5 hr drive
19:27
<scottmaccal>
is there a schedule for the agenda or is it a kind of on-the-fly thing
19:27
<dtrask>
this is the primary mode of communication for LTSP'ers
19:27
LaserJock: LaseerJock! It'll be good to see you
19:27
<LaserJock>
dtrask: same
19:27
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: depends on how many beers we've had
19:28
<scottmaccal>
heh, I see
19:28
cool
19:28
<ogra>
LaserJock, the coast route is worth the delay btw ...
19:28
<dtrask>
no schedule per se
19:28
<LaserJock>
ogra: oh?
19:28
<ogra>
more beautiful than driving up the 95
19:28
<dtrask>
yes...tomorrow anyway...it's supposed to be pretty nice tomorrow
19:29
<scottmaccal>
k. I have friends that live in Bar Harbor I plan to visit. Haven't seen thing a long time so this would be a good trip.
19:29
<dtrask>
hey ogra!
19:29* ogra decided to drive up the coast this time ... did the interstate 95 last time i was here
19:29
<ogra>
hey dtrask
19:29
looking forward to see you :)
19:29
<dtrask>
ogra: me too! :-)
19:30
hey guys...if we need beer...call me tomorrow or email me at copperdoggy_AT_gmail.com and I'll make a beer stop on the way
19:31
in fact...if you need anything...hardware...etc...lemme know
19:31
where's jammcq?
19:31
<bart23>
Hi guys, can I ask a question, I'm choosing if I still need to buy the Intel Atom Dual core thin client, as I already have the Intel Atom single core thin client, will there be any performance increase in my LTSP thin client environment? Thanks!
19:32
<scottmaccal>
yeah dtrask, thanks again for the invite.
19:32
<dtrask>
bart23: possibly, but only in terms of local apps I would think
19:32
I have a bunch of single core and they're awesome
19:32
<bieb>
beer runs are great... just make sure its good beer... :P
19:33
<bart23>
ok, thanks dtrask for the reply... :)
19:33
<dtrask>
bieb: of course
19:33
bart23: where you buying from?
19:33
<scottmaccal>
Guiness?
19:33
<dtrask>
bart23: I know a good place
19:33
<scottmaccal>
Bass?
19:33
<bart23>
where?
19:33
<dtrask>
magic hat #9
19:33
<bieb>
bar harbor is good and a local brewery
19:34
just finished a 22 of the Blueberry ale
19:34
:D
19:34
<dtrask>
bart23: I got mine from SenecaData...$199 with keyboard and mouse
19:34
<scottmaccal>
I went to a mirobrew in BH once and had an aweful beer!
19:34
<dtrask>
bieb: I LOVE the BB Ale from Bar harbor brewing
19:34
<bieb>
dtrask: that is some good stuff
19:35
<dtrask>
bieb: one of the few GOOD fruit beers
19:35
<bart23>
dtrask: Ok, I'll check, thanks for your feedback.
19:35
<scottmaccal>
I found a good one though that I washed it down with.
19:35
<dtrask>
LOL
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<jammcq>
hello friends
19:35
<ogra>
dtrask, ^^^
19:35
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: how about Chamberlain
19:35
jammcq: DAD!
19:35
<scottmaccal>
never had
19:35
<jammcq>
dtrask: WHERE ARE YOU ?
19:35
<scottmaccal>
good?
19:36
<dtrask>
jammcq: I'll be there tomorrow p.m. got school tomorrow
19:36
dammit
19:36
scottmaccal: tart
19:36
scottmaccal: I like it
19:36
<scottmaccal>
heh
19:36
<bart23>
Hi, what about in terms of cabling, what else can I buy instead of a local rj45 cable to speed up transmission of data, that's not too expensive.
19:36
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: I'll bring some
19:36
<scottmaccal>
k, cool.
19:37
<jammcq>
dtrask: looking forward to seeing you again
19:37
<dtrask>
jammcq: you guys go out to eat?
19:37
jammcq: ditto...I live for this
19:37
<scottmaccal>
I'm a Red Stripe man these days.
19:38
<dtrask>
bart23: Cat 5e or 6....go with gigabit from the server as far toward the thin clients as possible. I'm gigabit all the way as my new thin-clients are gigabit
19:38
jammcq: is ragnar gonna' make it?
19:38
jammcq: I know Gadi won't
19:38
<scottmaccal>
Yeah, there is no way I could get out of school tomorrow. Too much to do.
19:39
<dtrask>
jammcq: I'm psyched that LaserJock and Ogra can make it
19:39
where's Scotty?
19:40
<bart23>
OK, that'll be great. Thanks man!
19:40
<jammcq>
dtrask: he's on a beer run with davidj
19:40
<ogra>
dtrask, buying beer
19:40
<dtrask>
mmmm...beer
19:40
ogra: we got any good scotch?
19:40
<scottmaccal>
I have a closet of 30 or so ThinClients that need to be setup.
19:41
<jammcq>
and ragnar's not coming. He's doing a 30 yr college reunion
19:41
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: get to it
19:41
LOL
19:41
jammcq: aww
19:41
<scottmaccal>
OK.
19:41
<ogra>
dtrask, i think i saw some good scotch in a room today :)
19:41
<jammcq>
yeah, I know
19:41
<dtrask>
jammcq: we'll miss him
19:41
ogra: Yay! ;-P
19:42* dtrask sucks at emoticons sometimes
19:42* dtrask is updating his netbook to Karmic UNR as he chats
19:43
<LaserJock>
uggg, karmic
19:43* LaserJock senses a slight headache coming on
19:43
<jammcq>
LaserJock: we have medicine for that
19:43
<scottmaccal>
hmm, karmic is an interesting name.
19:43
<LaserJock>
I didn't think my respect for ogra could get any higher
19:44
and then I tried to produce an Edubuntu DVD
19:44
<dtrask>
LaserJock: do tell...what's the Karmic "uggg" for?
19:44
LOL
19:45
<LaserJock>
dtrask: I've just been fighting trying to get a decent Edubuntu DVD out this release
19:45
<scottmaccal>
I'm hoping there is someone that is willing to lend an ear to some Python questions I have.
19:45* dtrask will get to know Karmic UNR very intimately as he will be building a new image for Open1to1.org next weekend
19:45
<dtrask>
LaserJock: what's the issue?
19:49
figured I'd get a head start...actually I did a presentation today at the University of Maine on "open source and socioeconomics in today's classroom"....I wiped my netbook, installed Karmic UNR...and synched up my files prior to going. Logic dictates that you shouldn't f**k around with your computer prior to a big presentation. Nonetheless...I did...and it worked flawlessly
19:49
now I'm just "moving in" and tweaking
19:49
<LaserJock>
dtrask: I just had issues with going from Edubuntu being an "add on" CD to being a fully functioning DVD complete with Live and text-based installers and LTSP
19:50
<scottmaccal>
sweet
19:50
<dtrask>
LaserJock: wait a min...Edubuntu is going back?
19:50
<LaserJock>
yep
19:50
Edubuntu 9.10 RC is ~ 3GB
19:51
<dtrask>
LaserJock: I gotta' pay more attention....what precipitated that?
19:51
<scottmaccal>
Wow
19:51
That is huge
19:51
<LaserJock>
well, basically the add-on thing wasn't working so well for a lot of people
19:51
<scottmaccal>
I know I was confused by it
19:52
<LaserJock>
I talked to one company that ships Edubuntu as an installation option and asked what their #1 trouble was
19:52
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: the size doesn't surprise me...look at how big the Open1to1 image is uncompressed
19:52
<LaserJock>
they said they really would like a single installation disk
19:53
<scottmaccal>
It would be great to have Edubuntu back as a non-addon
19:53
<dtrask>
"add-on" is a tough selling point
19:53
<LaserJock>
people where having a hard time figuring out what Edubuntu was
19:53
<dtrask>
amen
19:53
true
19:53
<LaserJock>
"so it's a bunch of .debs you can install after you install regular Ubuntu?"
19:53
<dtrask>
I had a hard time wrapping my head around it
19:53
<LaserJock>
however
19:53
<dtrask>
average Joe says "huh?"
19:54
<LaserJock>
there were very good reasons we didn't do a DVD
19:54
and why we did the addon
19:54
as ogra knows
19:54
<dtrask>
Deb who? Is she single?
19:54
<scottmaccal>
Yes I can see that.
19:54
<LaserJock>
another big reason to do it was people kept asking for an .iso they could demo with
19:54
and we had nothing
19:54
<dtrask>
so what's the general feeling among the devs?
19:54
<scottmaccal>
No DVD drives in a school is still not unheard of.
19:55
<LaserJock>
yep
19:55
it's pretty easy to put it on a USB stick though
19:55
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: yeah, but less and less so
19:55
unetbootin baby!
19:55
<scottmaccal>
Yeah, we only use USB sticks for our installs
19:56
now
19:56
<LaserJock>
it also allows for some freedom
19:56
<dtrask>
scottmaccal: just wipe out those 32gb MLTI USB sticks and put it on those ;-)
19:56
<scottmaccal>
lol
19:56
speak of which
19:56
I have a story to tell you
19:56
<dtrask>
oh boy
19:56
here goes
19:56
<scottmaccal>
about MLTI
19:56
<dtrask>
LOL
19:56
shoot
19:57
<scottmaccal>
Later
19:57
very funny
19:57
remind me
19:57
<dtrask>
can't tell me here or it's better in person?
19:57
<scottmaccal>
I should talk about it in the channel ;-)
19:57
shouldn't
19:57
I mean
19:58
<dtrask>
tomorrow...over beer
19:58
<scottmaccal>
yep
19:58
<dtrask>
guys...where's Brendan?
19:58
is chuck there?
19:59* dtrask wishes he was in SW Harbor right now
19:59* dtrask will drive very fast tomorrow
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<bart23>
Bye everyone, thanks for the info, have a nice weekend
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<dtrask>
well...heading to bed soon...need sleep as I won't get much this weekend ;-)
20:08
<scottmaccal>
dtrask: what is you cell?
20:08
<dtrask>
2074462738
20:08
<scottmaccal>
I'll give you a call when I get in tomorrow.
20:09
<dtrask>
k
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<cliebow>
scottmaccal, lookig forward to meeting you as well
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<scottmaccal>
hi cliebow
20:15
where do you hale?
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<cliebow>
southwewst harbor..hop and a skip from here
20:16
work in ellsworth schools
20:16
im the Chuck dtrask asked after
20:17
<scottmaccal>
cool
20:17
<cliebow>
see you tomorrow afternoon then..i have to go in in themorning(TO SCHOOL)
20:18
<scottmaccal>
yeah, see you then!
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<bieb>
cliebow: what time is everyone getting together in the am?
20:20
<scottmaccal>
I'm off all, to get ready for the weekend. See you!
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<jammcq>
bieb: I'd say certainly by 11am, most likely before that
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<bieb>
ok.. jammcq this is my first, so I am not sure how it works...
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<cliebow>
bieb:depends on how late they go tonight..generally not before 9..
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<LaserJock>
jammcq: is there stuff going to be going on tomorrow evening?
20:21
<jammcq>
bieb: it's very casual
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<bieb>
cool
20:22
<jammcq>
LaserJock: pizza and beer for dinner, here at the workshop
20:22
LaserJock: what time do you think you are coming?
20:22
<cliebow>
best exercise your arms tonight..never know what you might need em for
20:22
<LaserJock>
jammcq: I'm going to try to get out of work early, but it's still like 5+ hrs drive
20:22
<jammcq>
yeah. we were near Tewksberry sometime either last night or this morning
20:23
spent the night in Worcester
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<LaserJock>
!
20:23
you shoulda picked me up?
20:23
<jammcq>
heh
20:23
<LaserJock>
s/?/!/
20:23
<jammcq>
we got into worcester around midnight, and we were back on the road by 8am
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<LaserJock>
jammcq: when did you get in?
20:24
<jammcq>
to here in SW Harbor? ummmmmm, I guess it was around 2:30. we took the long scenic route tho
20:24
coulda prolly shaved 90 minutes at least if we'd stayed on the highway
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<LaserJock>
hmm
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<LaserJock>
so maybe I'll take the highway up and the scenic route back
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<bieb>
hey scott
20:51
<sbalneav>
Hey hey
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<cliebow>
LaserJock:i seem to m,ake the best time to go boston-->augusta..then down thru belfast/buckeport from there
21:01
augusta/bangor is SO boring..
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<ogra>
!s
21:02
<ltspbot>
ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<stgraber>
hey ogra
21:06
<ogra>
hey :)
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<chrisinajar>
yay...
21:14
all set up :)
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<sbalneav>
Why ae we chatting in this channel when we're all in the same room?
21:16
<stgraber>
sbalneav: it's a lot more fun
21:16
<ogra>
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/drunkest-man-ever-tries-to-buy-booze/story-e6frfhix-1225789248474
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<stgraber>
chrisinajar: took you a while ;)
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<chrisinajar>
stgraber: yeah, it's how I roll :P
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<chrisinajar>
took me a while to setup because I thought this was ltsp btw, not ubuntu netbook remix bts ;)
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*ltsp bts
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<sbalneav>
Someone in this channel?
21:56
<stgraber>
sbalneav: you mean, other than the ones at BTS ?
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<chrisinajar>
only cool people talk over IRC to people in the same room as them
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s/cool/wicked nerdy/
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<PMantis>
hey, did jammcq turn in for the night?
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<sbalneav>
He's just on his way out
22:09
<davidj>
No, he's going to the airport to pick up Eric Harrison.
22:10
<PMantis>
I just finished upgrading the jabber server here, and I didn't see him online. So, that makes sense if he's not connected. :)
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<sbalneav>
If you will examine my previous statement, there were no factual errors in it.
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<PMantis>
lol
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<chrisinajar>
a lack of complete truth is just as bad as fallacy :P
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<sbalneav>
Incorrect.
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<PMantis>
Here we go....
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<chrisinajar>
:D
22:12
well, if it isn't Mr Trask :)
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<dtrask>
hey
22:12
<sbalneav>
Hey Trask!
22:12
<dtrask>
sbalneav: hey!
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<davidj>
Hey!
22:12
<dtrask>
davidj: Hey!
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<PMantis>
oh, NM, forgot to update the vmware tools... one more reboot for the I server.
22:12
IM
22:13
<dtrask>
looking forward to seeing ya'll tomorrow p.m.
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<chrisinajar>
dtrask: what time will you be ariving?
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<dtrask>
brendan!
22:13
<brendan0powers>
HI!
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<dtrask>
chrisinajar: 5 ish
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<chrisinajar>
cooool
22:13
<brendan0powers>
we've improved openoffice performace on local sessions a bit
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not that much though
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<dtrask>
chrisinajar: lemme know if you guys think of anything we need
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<brendan0powers>
boose
22:14
<dtrask>
brendan0powers: every little bit helps
22:14
brendan0powers: name your poison
22:14* brendan0powers wonders if that how you spell boose
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<dtrask>
booze
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<PMantis>
booze
22:14
heh
22:14
<brendan0powers>
ha
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<dtrask>
sbalneav: better have lots of pictures....we've some catching up todo
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<sbalneav>
hooch
22:15
<dtrask>
:-)
22:15
<brendan0powers>
dtrask: were running local sessions now, and its pretty good
22:15
things like scrolling in firefox are better
22:15
<dtrask>
brendan0powers: cool
22:15
<brendan0powers>
also, the flash issues are most likely video driver related
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<PMantis>
Local browsers.. Oooooooooh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
22:16
<dtrask>
brendan0powers: the trick will be how does it work with more than one thin-client ;-)
22:16
<brendan0powers>
true
22:16
works with 2:)
22:16
probably
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<dtrask>
LOL
22:16
<chrisinajar>
we were both watching youtube videos a second ago
22:16
<brendan0powers>
as the network IO will be in quick birsts
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<dtrask>
is there a way to really crank up the buffer?
22:17
<brendan0powers>
I think so
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<chrisinajar>
PMantis: it's how we roll ;)
22:18
<dtrask>
oh problem for Monday....USB drives won't mount. They show up in the corner, but you can't actually read them
22:18
<brendan0powers>
chrisinajar: thought it was rholl...
22:18
<chrisinajar>
RHOLL
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<dtrask>
brendan0powers: anything you can think of I can try?
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<dtrask>
or should we jsut wait
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<PMantis>
chrisinajar: SOrry, out of the loop a bit, haven't been to BTS since 2005
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<brendan0powers>
dtrask: that's odd, worked at the office
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<PMantis>
chrisinajar: THAT was AWESOME, BTS+UBZ. :-D
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<chrisinajar>
PMantis: yeah, brendan and i have entire sessions running locally right now :D
22:19
it's pleasent.
22:19
<brendan0powers>
dtrask: I'l fiddle with it
22:19
if you logged in tomorrow i can probably fix it
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<dtrask>
brendan0powers: k\
22:20
brendan0powers: we'll look tomorrow
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<chrisinajar>
PMantis: what's UBZ?
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<dtrask>
Ubuntu Below Zero
22:20
I was there!
22:20
<chrisinajar>
I'm assuming it's ubuntu booze zebra
22:20
i was close....
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<johnny>
i can talk again..
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<dtrask>
UDS Montreal
22:20
<johnny>
sweet
22:20
<PMantis>
chrisinajar: Well, that completely changes it from thin client, to fat client with network storage.
22:20
<chrisinajar>
perhaps.
22:21* brendan0powers was hoping the z was for zelda
22:21
<chrisinajar>
a very good game
22:21
<PMantis>
chrisinajar: Might as well just setup a bunch of desktops with iSCSI. :)
22:21
<dtrask>
PMantis: with the Atom thin clients...why not?
22:21
<brendan0powers>
is uds in montreal this year?
22:21
<chrisinajar>
PMantis: i'll pass :P
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<PMantis>
lol
22:21
<brendan0powers>
yes, me too
22:21
I have not had great experices with iscsi and desktops:-)
22:21
<PMantis>
dtrask: I agree, it's just funny the cycles computing goes through....
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<brendan0powers>
I havn't tried it for a few years though
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<PMantis>
centralize, de-centralize.
22:22
<dtrask>
no...what I meant is UBZ (Ubuntu below zero) was the codename for UDS Montreal
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<chrisinajar>
PMantis: it's still totally centralized
22:22
<brendan0powers>
oh
22:22
<PMantis>
brendan0powers: ubuntu 9.10 suports it directly.
22:22
<dtrask>
PMantis: how about centralized decentralization
22:22
<brendan0powers>
ah, cool
22:22
although with ISCSI you'd have to have a seperate disk for each client
22:22
<chrisinajar>
dtrask: we should think of a word for that
22:22
<brendan0powers>
actually, thats not true
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<PMantis>
chrisinajar: True, but the horsepower is not. In all seriousness, with the proper thin clients it's the RIGHT thing to do.
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<chrisinajar>
dtrask: decentracentralization
22:23
PMantis: i'm on an atom box right now, in fact
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<dtrask>
or decentralized centralization "ness"
22:23
me too....netbook
22:23
;-)
22:23
<chrisinajar>
dtrask: centralized decentralizationism
22:23
<PMantis>
You *could* boot a live image from an iSCSI disk, mount it with cramfs and tempfs, joined with unionfs... y'know.. :)
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<brendan0powers>
PMantis: yes, that would work
22:24
PMantis: I wounder how the performance would compare with NFS or NBD
22:24
<dtrask>
PMantis: sometimes it's jsut fun to see what you can actually do
22:24
even if it's pointless
22:24
<chrisinajar>
dtrask: fact.
22:24
<PMantis>
Although, that's atypical for iSCSI, and really a waste of such hardware, IMO.
22:24
<brendan0powers>
well, you can use a software ISCSI server
22:24
<PMantis>
dtrask: Exactly :)
22:24
<chrisinajar>
PMantis: but silly, so worth trying ;)
22:24
<dtrask>
and $$$
22:24
amen
22:24
<PMantis>
chrisinajar: LOL yup
22:25
<dtrask>
just for the hellofit
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<chrisinajar>
indeedy
22:25
<PMantis>
(TM)
22:25
<dtrask>
remember the first guys who had that silly idea about clustering?
22:25
<PMantis>
dtrask: That was meant for you
22:25
dtrask: You should type: just for the hellofit (TM)
22:25
<brendan0powers>
dtrask: no?
22:25
<dtrask>
they did it...and now folks use it a lot
22:25
(TM)??
22:26
<chrisinajar>
that's like dave trask's moto
22:26
<PMantis>
Trademark. :)
22:26
<chrisinajar>
'just for the hellofit'
22:26
<dtrask>
oh
22:26
got it
22:26
yes
22:26
LOL
22:26
<brendan0powers>
and its only fun if your up ater midnight
22:26
<PMantis>
dtrask: Yeah, remember the "happy packet dance?"
22:26
<dtrask>
my whole life is just for the hellofit
22:26
LOL! Fabian Franz!
22:26
<chrisinajar>
fueled by liquid sleep
22:27
<PMantis>
BRB guys, gotta go wifi
22:27
<chrisinajar>
wurd
22:27
<dtrask>
and enhanced by liquid courage
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<brendan0powers>
I love wifiing
22:27
<dtrask>
LOL
22:27
<chrisinajar>
and a lot of cheese.
22:27
A LOT.
22:27
<brendan0powers>
SO MUCH CHEESE
22:27
perhaps even nested levels of cheese
22:27
<chrisinajar>
recursive cheese
22:27
<dtrask>
7-6 Los Angeles over the Yankees...top of 9th...bases loaded....2 outs
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<brendan0powers>
I'l have some cheese on my cheese please
22:28
<dtrask>
CHEESE!
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<dtrask>
it's the cheesiest!
22:28
<PMantis>
K, make sure thin clients work, THEN I can leave... :-)
22:28
<chrisinajar>
the day we can put cheese on cheese to make it more cheesey will be a glorious glorious day for dtrask
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<PMantis>
lol
22:29
<dtrask>
You got that right!
22:29
no such thing as too much cheese
22:29
<brendan0powers>
like mozzarella sticks with more cheese on the outside instead of breading
22:29
<dtrask>
I used to love it when Maddog would call over the waitress and send my burger back (at Suds) due to lack of cheese
22:30
<johnny>
this computer is much nicer..
22:30
faster that is.. yay new xorg
22:30* dtrask is hungry now
22:30* brendan0powers has witnessed that burger
22:30
<PMantis>
mmmmmmmmmmmmm foood
22:30
<johnny>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm foood
22:30
i fee the same
22:30
<brendan0powers>
not sure I'd dare to eat it
22:30
<johnny>
just different place
22:30
<chrisinajar>
hah... we never really had dinner, brendan0powers
22:30
<brendan0powers>
true
22:30
<chrisinajar>
we had like a 3pm lunch...
22:30
<brendan0powers>
I did have that burger
22:30
<chrisinajar>
eww.
22:30
<brendan0powers>
it could eat again
22:30
<chrisinajar>
lets not talk about that
22:30
<dtrask>
2-3 inches thick with cheese....little bit of burger....yum
22:31* brendan0powers agrees
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22:31* dtrask got killed playing NetPanzer earlier
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<brendan0powers>
NetPanzer?
22:32
<dtrask>
oh man
22:32
3-2 count...2 outs....bases loaded
22:32
<PMantis>
Ketchup, mustart, pickles, lettuce, mayo, and.. *meaty* hot sauce. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:32
lol typo
22:32
<dtrask>
the pitch of destiny
22:33
ANGELS WIN!
22:33* chrisinajar apt-get install netpanzey
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<chrisinajar>
*netpanzer
22:33
:\
22:33
<brendan0powers>
ha
22:33* dtrask doesn't like the Angels, but like any good Red Sox fan...hates the Yankees
22:34
<dtrask>
netpanzer is fun...build a sh*tload of tanks and descend on your enemy
22:34
create alliances...and attack your allies...just for the hellofit
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<PMantis>
ok, guys, time to leave for home. If I don't get out of here, the security system will auto-arm and the cops will come.
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<PMantis>
Cyaaaaaa
22:34
<dtrask>
PMantis: I've done that before ;-)
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<dtrask>
cop scared the crap out of me
22:35
when someone...who shall remain nameless...left the f**kin' door WIDE open at school after midnight! That someone is here in this chat
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<chrisinajar>
dtrask: I launched it, joined a server, played for 30 seconds, then it segfaulted....
22:36
boychild?
22:36
<dtrask>
State cop came into school and scared the crap out of me
22:36
some servers suck
22:36
we shall engage in a rousing game of netpanzer tomorrow
22:37
<chrisinajar>
ok
22:37* brendan0powers defenetly wasn't me
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<dtrask>
ok guys...I'm off to bed...for real this time
22:37
<chrisinajar>
nuh huh
22:37
<dtrask>
Let's blame warren
22:37
<brendan0powers>
works for me!
22:37
<chrisinajar>
sounds good.
22:37
<brendan0powers>
he used to much paper
22:37
<chrisinajar>
fact
22:37* ogra blames warren
22:37
<dtrask>
night all! See ya'll tomorrow
22:37
<chrisinajar>
word, see ya
22:38
<dtrask>
ogra: LOL
22:38
<brendan0powers>
dtrask: its only 11:36
22:38
i didn't think you slept
22:38
<ogra>
my inner clock thinks different
22:38
<dtrask>
brendan0powers: I don't...normally
22:38* ogra is at 5:37am
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<dtrask>
ogra: I bet
22:38
:-)
22:38
<brendan0powers>
ogra, you win
22:38
<chrisinajar>
ogra: so it's *just* about bed time then...
22:39
<ogra>
lol
22:39
<dtrask>
ogra: your inner clock needs a new battery
22:39
LOL!
22:39
g'night
22:39
nighty nite
22:39
zzzz
22:39
<ogra>
night dtrask
22:39
<chrisinajar>
dtrask: yeah, after i got to sleep and wake up again i always think it's 1970
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<dtrask>
chrisinajar: LOL! Only a geek would get that.
22:40
<chrisinajar>
:D
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<brendan0powers>
damn!
22:42
chris has more memory than i do
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how did that happen
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<chrisinajar>
i have 2g of ram on my thin client 0.0
22:42
wwhhhyyyyyy
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<brendan0powers>
i have a broken fan on my thin client
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