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Channel log from 11 May 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<thomask>
i'm trying to copy a home dir to my /etc/skel folder and it's not working... can someone help?
01:00
also does anyone know if I can install a wine application and make it work for all of my users?
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anyone here?
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anyone here?
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<cyberorg>
thomask: put .wine in /etc/skel too
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it might work, never tried it though
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<thomask>
i can't copy .wine into /etc/skel it won't let me...
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cp: omitting directory `.wine/'
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is what i get...
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cyberorg,
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<cyberorg>
cp -R
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<thomask>
wow it must be late
01:18
thanks cyberorg
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<cyberorg>
happens all the time
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<skyion>
hey hey
01:42
ok, hew after the second try at loading lts worked, I can get the login screen... though its not accepting any passwords...
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if u press ctrl-alt-F1 and try login through the text console its not working there either
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<jammcq>
g'morning
02:06* ogra waves
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<vagrantc>
morning!
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<sbalneav>
Morning
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<anarkae>
hello
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<skyion>
heeelllo :D
02:18
any idea why ltsp wouldnt accept usernames and passwords
02:18
<vagrantc>
skyion: what distro?
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<skyion>
ubuntu
02:19
default install...
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<vagrantc>
what version?
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<skyion>
7.04
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ltsp 5
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<vagrantc>
can you ssh to the machine with the same username and password?
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<skyion>
hmmm
02:19
will try in 1 sec
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<ogra>
skyion, usual suspects ... your ssh server isnt running, the keys are wrong (run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys), user stuff is wrong /check ~/.xsession-errors of the user you tried)
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<ogra>
it will be either of that
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<skyion>
ok
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<skyion>
ogra: i love you....
02:29
more than jelly tots
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<ogra>
vagrantc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113801 looks like a glitch with ltsp-update-kernels ...
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:)
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<jammcq>
but jelly tots are so good
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<vagrantc>
ogra: it's either hard-coded, or really should be configured with a configuration file
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<vagrantc>
ogra: we should probably generate the configuration file if the commandline options differ from the defaults
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<ogra>
yep
02:32
its a bug from edgy so it might not be in feisty, even though i dont remember any of us touching it
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<vagrantc>
i'm nearly certain it's still present.
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<ogra>
yup
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<jammcq>
ogra: LTSP-4.2 is using Busybox MOUNT
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<ogra>
aha
02:36
lets try it with that one then ...
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<jammcq>
how easy/hard is that to do in Ubuntu-ltsp-5 ?
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<ogra>
not to hard if you know how ...
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<jammcq>
k
02:37
I vote that we meet in Salon/America to give it a try
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<ogra>
sadly i'll be a bit busy today, rich needs a dump of the classmate image on his and i need to backup the system his has n it
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<vagrantc>
i would just install busybox ... and then switch the script to call "busybox mount ..."
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<ogra>
right
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: i can walk you through it
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<jammcq>
11:00am Salon/America is available
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<ogra>
btw .... getting that 2 gig from the classmate means to nfsmount a dir from my ltsp server and dd'ing the disk to there
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<vagrantc>
heh.
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<jammcq>
well, 100mb takes 42 seconds, so do the math :)
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<ogra>
hmm, probably using my usb harddisk is cleverer :)
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<vagrantc>
we're late
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: you're not taking another micro-nap, are you? :P
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<jammcq>
nope, sitting here with jonathon
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are we meeting or something?
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: well, ldm-load-balancing needs some care
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<vagrantc>
scotty says "no spec is complete unless it has it's own theme song"
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<jammcq>
hmm, I suggest the theme from Sanford and Son
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<vagrantc>
SLoB
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<highvoltage>
hey ltsp'ers
03:58
I did a standard LTSP install, and I get an error on the thin client "NFS over TCP not available from 192.168.0.254" on the client, and it retries over and over and over
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: bummer.
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highvoltage: copy /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs to /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs and add some "set -x" in the do_nfsmount function
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: I should do that in my chroot, right?
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: yeah, sorry
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<Nielsen|Work>
im trying to get ltspfs working for our system, however, /tmp/.ltspfs-socket is missing. any idea whyit's not there?
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<vagrantc>
Nielsen|Work: linux distro and ltsp version?
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<Nielsen|Work>
the ltsp client and server are both running ubuntu 6.10
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how can i tell which ltsp version is installed?
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<vagrantc>
dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ltsp-client
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and, while you're at it ...
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dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ltsp-client ltspfsd
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dpkg -l ltsp-server ltspfs
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<Nielsen|Work>
ltspfsd 0.4.3-0ubuntu4
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<vagrantc>
Nielsen|Work: can you paste /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf to the pastebot ?
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!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<ltsppbot>
"Nielsen|Work" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/128
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<vagrantc>
Nielsen|Work: use "True" instead of "Y"
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<ltsppbot>
"Nielsen|Work" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/129
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<Nielsen|Work>
liek that?
04:29* Nielsen|Work tests
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<Nielsen|Work>
still no /tmp/.ltspfs-socket
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what program is supposed to create it?
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<sbalneav>
Nielsen|Work: Are you using LDM or XDMCP for communicating to the server?
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<Nielsen|Work>
ldm
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find /opt/ltsp/i386 | grep -i XDMCP returns only some so's
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<sbalneav>
Well, LDM should be creating the socket
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<Nielsen|Work>
could it be my boss compiled it wrong?
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<sbalneav>
Compiled?
04:46
Should have just installed it with apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone,
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<Nielsen|Work>
yeh, true...
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i hate getting handed projects like this
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<sbalneav>
then created the chroot with ltsp-build-client
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<Nielsen|Work>
boss: "i cant get it working, you fix it"
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<sbalneav>
LTSP under Ubuntu's pretty autoconfigureing, why not try "mv lts.conf lts.conf.old", and see if it boots just using the defaults?
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<Nielsen|Work>
you mean /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ?
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<sbalneav>
Yep
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<Nielsen|Work>
no luck... still no file in /tmp
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ldm isn't running ither
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err either
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add_fstab_entry runs just fine, but the ssh in it fails since the file is missing
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<anarkae>
hello
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<sbalneav>
If ldm isn't running, you can't get logged into the server.
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Something odd is going on, thats for sure.
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<Nielsen|Work>
well it comes up asking what server to log on to, i pick the new one and then get the login prompt, doing a ps ax in tty1 durning each step.
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no ldm running
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<sbalneav>
ok
05:17
have you got an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/version file?
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<Nielsen|Work>
no
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<sbalneav>
have you got an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/issue file?
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<Nielsen|Work>
yes, issue "Ubuntu 6.10 \n \" and issue.net: "Ubuntu 6.10"
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<sbalneav>
ok, on the thin client, can you do a control-alt-f1?
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<Nielsen|Work>
done
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logged in as root now
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<sbalneav>
So, you set a root passwd in the chroot?
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<Nielsen|Work>
yeah
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<sbalneav>
look at the /etc/issue on the thin client
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<Nielsen|Work>
Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
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<sbalneav>
and you have no ldm running on that thin client?
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<Nielsen|Work>
ps ax|grep ldm returns only grep itself
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<vagrantc>
dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 ldm
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on the server
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<Nielsen|Work>
dpkg: need an action option
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<vagrantc>
dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ldm
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sorry
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<Nielsen|Work>
un ldm <none> (no description available)
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so thats bad, i guess
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<vagrantc>
sounds like you have either an incomplete install, or a very customized install.
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<Nielsen|Work>
i agree... lets leave it at that and i can tell my boss he's an "incomplete"
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<sbalneav>
If it were me, I'd mv /opt/ltsp to /opt/ltsp.orig, and re-do the ltsp-build-client
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<Nielsen|Work>
yeah i'll get that done this afternoon when boss gets in
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gotta get approval
05:27* Nielsen|Work grins
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<Nielsen|Work>
"you fucked up, can i fix it?
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"
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well, thanks for your time :)
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<sbalneav>
Good way to win points with your boss.
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Good luck with it.
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<vagrantc>
Nielsen|Work: maybe you can do the fixing pre-emptively :)
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Nielsen|Work: i.e. generate a new chroot
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<Nielsen|Work>
nah, i dont want to look too enthusiastic
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he might mistake me for someone who enjoys fixing his mistakes
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<cliebow>
Nielsen|Work :Ohh go for it..show how much initiative you have !!
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<Nielsen|Work>
initiative = smoke break - ttyl ;)
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<cliebow>
or just swap it back and forth when he is not looking
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<Nielsen|Work>
lol
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<cliebow>
ill join you
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<SLEducator>
Hello All
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<SLEducator>
sbalneav: hi Scott , have you seen the new instruction for LTSP5 on openSUSE I posted last night?
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<sbalneav>
SLEducator: Yes, I took a look at it.
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When I get back from Spain, I'll see about grabbing an opensuse cd, and see if I can get it working.
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<SLEducator>
you are a gentleman ;)
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anybody else i should ask?
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<sbalneav>
Hmm, well, I know when jammcq gets back to America, he's gonna be pretty swamped with work.
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<cliebow_>
sbalneav, jammcq still fighting his wireless connection?
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<sbalneav>
cliebow_: you feel like testing SuSE?
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<cliebow_>
oh i could do that..what do you ned/
07:11
/ned/need/g
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suse what..like 11?
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<sbalneav>
cliebow_: SLEducator has been invol ved in getting LTSP5 ported to SuSE
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he posted a link to ltsp-discuss
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<cliebow_>
what should i d/l
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?
07:15
ill look
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<sbalneav>
OpenSuSE, one imagines, to start :)
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My bandwidth doesn't permit that here, so I'll have to wait 'till next week when I'm back.
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<cliebow_>
ill see what is up on #opensuse-kiwi
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<mhterres>
morning
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<cliebow_>
hmm..ppc...
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<plameng1>
Hi, all :) I'm trying to run Local Apps, following ogra's instructions... installed nfs-common in the chroot and change the default fstab in the ltsp-client-setup initscript to mount /home from the server ... OK
07:25
install openssh-server in the chroot and make sure every user has a valid key in /home and an authorized_keys file OK
07:25
logged as root without a password OK
07:26
write a script that executes your local app and attacheds it to DISPLAY=:6 on the client - I have problems with this
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can you help?
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<vagrantc>
plameng1: what problems do you have?
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<plameng1>
I trued this: ssh $USER@client <localapp> but no success
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<vagrantc>
no errors or messages of any kind?
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<plameng1>
ssh root@77.70.24.202 aumix
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Error opening terminal: unknown.
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For example
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ssh root@77.70.24.202 gaim
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(gaim:2497): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
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** (gaim:2497): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset
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Gaim 2.0.0beta5
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another
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<vagrantc>
plameng1: how did you set DISPLAY ?
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<plameng1>
I'm not sure about this: change the default fstab in the ltsp-client-setup initscript to mount /home
07:30
plameng1: how did you set DISPLAY ? I don't now exactly this
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<ltsppbot>
"plamengr" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client setup" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/130
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<vagrantc>
plameng1: you need to set it when you run the script
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<plameng1>
I also looked at this: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/pub/Ltsp/LocalApps/runremote, but I'm not sure what will be useful there
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this: ssh root@77.70.24.202 /bin/sh -c \"DISPLAY=:6 $@\" aumix, returns no error
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but there's nothing on Display6 :(
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<vagrantc>
you need to set XAUTHORITY=/path/to/.Xauthority, too
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which currently is a randomized filename
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<plameng1>
okay
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<plameng1>
ssh root@77.70.24.202 /bin/sh -c \"DISPLAY=:6 $@\" \"XAUTHORITY=/root/.Xauthority $@\" aumix
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returns no error, but still no result
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<vagrantc>
i'm almost certain that's not the right .Xauthority file
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you have /home mounted for the user ?
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<plameng1>
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/130
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sashka:~# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/fstab
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# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
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maybe not
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<vagrantc>
it
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s actually not your problem yet
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<plameng1>
I haven't set up LDAP or NIS, but can Locall Apps run with a password, just for the test, without LDAP or NIS?
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<vagrantc>
you could set a password in the chroot
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<plameng1>
yes, I did. But, am I right, LDAP connects the user in the chroot with the user in the server? or maybe I misunderstood
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<vagrantc>
well, you can use LDAP to authenticate and get login information
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<plameng1>
okay, 10x much for the help :)
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<Nielsen|Work>
sbalneav: looks like the boss took the day off, and since it's friday, i have desire to fiddle with it any more :) you have a great weekend, and i'll come back and pry at your wisdom next week
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<sbalneav>
ok
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<fxrsliberty>
sbalneav: it's SLEducator in my street cloths ;) . does ltsp's boot kernel do hdetect work in memory or rw mount?
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<sbalneav>
hardware detect, you mean?
08:13
right now, it's using udev
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<fxrsliberty>
sbalneav: the reason I ask is that I can;t connect my LTSP150's
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<sbalneav>
so, that's mostly memory :)
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<fxrsliberty>
yes udev I ment
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<sbalneav>
which, to kiwi?
08:14
<fxrsliberty>
yes
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<sbalneav>
hm
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<fxrsliberty>
seems our netboot kernel doesn't do well with some hardware, my IBM r51 laptop boot like a champ
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<sbalneav>
In the current model, udev actually gets started in the initramfs, in order to find the network module to load for plumbing the nfs mount.
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<fxrsliberty>
it's after that I have troulbe
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pardon my n00bness, not in anyway a coder
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<sbalneav>
I only pretend to be one on TV. :)
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<fxrsliberty>
LOL then your script writers are genius
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<sbalneav>
maybe you don't have one of the drivers the 150 needs in the initramfs?
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so ltspfs is merely a science-fiction?
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<fxrsliberty>
science-fiction-drama!
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: yes, don't look to carefully at the man behind the curtain.
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<vagrantc>
as long as you have fire, we're set.
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<fxrsliberty>
is the initramfs something I can pastebin?
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<sbalneav>
heh, no, it's the bit of kernel that gets downloaded that helps it boot up
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it'll be a few megs
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<fxrsliberty>
can you point me at an example inclusion list of yours?
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<sbalneav>
hmm, vagrant?
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brb
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<fxrsliberty>
ok
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<cliebow_>
mistik1:i concur...xubuntu-desktop is pretty sexy..
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<anarkae>
Hello. I bought two LTSP Term 1220 PXE Thin Client. My server is a
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Debian Lenny with ltsp5 (chroot in etch).
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I try to make function the graphics board of the thin client in "via" CN700 ,
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but I do not arrive there. For the moment the thin client functions in vesa. Diskless.com indicate a modus operandi for ltsp4.2 but
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not for ltsp5. http://www.disklessworkstations.com/web/documentation/LTSP_T-1220.pdf
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: inclusion list?
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<anarkae>
08:23
I do not know how to make
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<fxrsliberty>
hardware to be supported by the initramfs
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my ltsp150'
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s won't connect while other things do
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or our udev is having issues
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: does it produce any error messages?
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<fxrsliberty>
not that i can tell it just stalls after time: tsc clocksource has been installed
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: so, what distro, what version of ltsp, etc.
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?
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<fxrsliberty>
p.s. love the LTSP line of hardware
08:26
opensuse 10.2 with ltsp 5 pre alpa integration
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<vagrantc>
ah
08:27
fxrsliberty: so, just to clarify ... you can boot some machines but not this particular machine?
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<fxrsliberty>
correct, my IBM r51 laptop is on , also an IBM 2292-22u netvista
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: so ... how far does it get?
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i.e. does the initramfs mount the NFS filesystem?
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<fxrsliberty>
i am repurposing some IBM 6649-nau netvista's that fail as well with trouble configuring the intel 815e graphics
08:29
yes nfs mounted
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<fxrsliberty>
on the netvista not the ltsp150
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<vagrantc>
so the netvistas are working fine. ok. what about the ltsp150 that isn't? where does it get?
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<fxrsliberty>
it just stalls after time: tsc clocksource has been installed
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: do you see anything before that? or the second you turn it on?
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<fxrsliberty>
yes all kinds of stuff.. it downloads the kernel and begins the init process
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: init from initramfs, or from NFS ?
08:34
<fxrsliberty>
it checks the initrd for initramfs compatibilty
08:34
<anarkae>
08:34
nobody knows how to activate “via” with the LTSP Term 1220 in ltsp 5 on debian ?
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<fxrsliberty>
before it even thinks about nfs
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<vagrantc>
anarkae: set XSERVER=via in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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<ogra>
that wont work
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: so ... does the initramfs work, or not?
08:37
<anarkae>
08:37
Ca does not go, it charges all the same vesa in the place of via
08:37
<ogra>
it needs the openchrome driver fro which no debian package exists
08:37
*for
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<vagrantc>
anarkae: ah well. you're stuck with vesa.
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<fxrsliberty>
in the middle of loading hardware the initramfs stalls after it says "time:tsc clocksource has been installed
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<anarkae>
ogra : I have a solution?
08:38
Diskless.com indicate a modus operandi for ltsp4.2 but
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<anarkae> not for ltsp5
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: no idea.
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<anarkae>
http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/downloads/downloads.html
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<fxrsliberty>
what rw resources need to be available to the initramfs or the udev process?
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: i'd try to increate the verbosity of your initramfs so you know exacly where it breaks
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<ogra>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
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<ogra>
its a lot of work ... but shuld work the same on debian
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: all an initramfs is is an cpio that gets unpackaged into a ram-based filesystem, so you should have write to whatever you need.
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<anarkae>
ogra : I was reading it
08:42* vagrantc is a little clumsy with the keys today
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<fxrsliberty>
no problem and did i say THANK YOU yet...if not THANK YOU ;)
08:43
<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: though your cpio might need to contain a directory structure or something
08:43
fxrsliberty: it entirely depends on how your scripts work.
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<fxrsliberty>
asking kiwi dev to do what you suggested about verbosity
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<vagrantc>
we should really try to make initramfs-tools distro independent
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<fxrsliberty>
this is how we config the whole system http://pastebin.ca/482908
08:50
from there we are using mostly your scripts
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<cliebow_>
any link to the video conference jim did with oliver..mark..jono??
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<ogra>
unfortunately not
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<fxrsliberty>
do any of the devs have an ltsp 150 and time to the opensuse ltsp5 integration packages?
09:07
time to install
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<federicoco>
hello guy ....i have installed ltsp5 but don't find rdesktop... any idea?
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<cliebow_>
rdesktop "should" be installed on server huh..
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<federicoco>
yes
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<cliebow_>
sudo apt-get install rdesktop should tell you..
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<cyberorg>
hi cliebow thanks for dropping by in kiwi channel and offering to help, that was very generous of you :)
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<fxrsliberty>
vagrantc: does any of this incude things that need looking after?
09:16
http://pastebin.ca/482947
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
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<cliebow_>
cyberorg, not much i can do at this point..since not the least bit familiar with suse
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<cyberorg>
you are download it right?
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<federicoco>
so...in main root i find and execute rdesktop, in the client, chroot is set /opt/ltsp/i386...
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i have chancge chroot and dowloaded rdesktop
09:18
well, in the lts.conf i have put screen_01 = redesktop....... but don't work
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<federicoco>
any idea?
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
redesktop? rdesktop
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<federicoco>
yes yes sorry rdesktop
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
:P
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<fxrsliberty>
vagrantc: could you send me a copy of your boot initrd....gz?
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sbalneav: could you spend a couple of minutes in #opensuse-kiwi to help with hardware diagnosis?
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<fxrsliberty>
vagrantc: could you send me a copy of your boot initrd....gz?
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: you could grab one out of the tarballs
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!tarball
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: why do you want a copy of an entirely different initramfs system?
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<fxrsliberty>
I was hoping to dig into it and read your drivers list?
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<vagrantc>
why not grab the source code for initramfs-tools instead?
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<sutula>
vagrantc: for the ltsp-server package, where does the client's kernel come from? Is it the stock Debian kernel?
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<fxrsliberty>
this is how we tell kiwi to build our boot files are there missing drivers? http://pastebin.ca/483040
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<vagrantc>
sutula: yes
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<sutula>
vagrantc: tnk
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<fxrsliberty>
vagrantc: this is how we tell kiwi to build our boot files are there missing drivers? http://pastebin.ca/483040
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<vagrantc>
fxrsliberty: having no idea how it works, it looks like you pul lin drivers/net/* ... that should be everything.
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and als fs/nfs/*
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<fxrsliberty>
vagrantc: als ?
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<vagrantc>
sorry, "also"
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<fxrsliberty>
ok
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<cliebow_>
alas?
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<Q-FUNK>
http://www.artecgroup.com/thincan/
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<sutula>
Q-FUNK: prices?
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<Q-FUNK>
sutula: send a request. i'll read it on Monday :)
11:57* sutula wasn't that interested...just curious
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<Q-FUNK>
:)
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<Guaraldo>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
Guaraldo: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<skipper>
Hi everyone
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<Linf>
hey
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<Mineque>
hi
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<skipper>
I asked for help yesterday but I think I figured it out
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<Linf>
ok, so it's my time :)
14:18
everyone who run this ltsp have to have devfs running?
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it seems that the newer kernels don't have devfs anymore....
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<skipper>
The computer I am using as a server is just too small. It has a 1.2 GHz Pentium IV and 2 GB ram
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<Linf>
it's the slowest computer to ever had 2gb o' ram...
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<skipper>
Tell me about it
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I'll just have to invest a real server, anybosy have some ideas?
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<Linf>
what's your problem with ltsp? does it run ok?
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<skipper>
It runs but then Thin Client Manager hangs up after I connect 12 terminal clients
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I tested it today and as I added more clients the TSM ran slower and slower
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<Linf>
yeah, it definitly looks like you need more processing power
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<skipper>
oops I meant the TCM
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<Linf>
you can surely buy a pentium iv on ebay which would ran somewhat faster
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<skipper>
Also I have ide drives and not sata
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<Linf>
or switch the whole computer to a core2duo or something more like it
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<skipper>
I think
14:22
I think I proves that 7.04 edubuntu is the way to go to get away from my old Windows ME
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<Linf>
yeah, but you can't expect a p4 to run more then 10 stations... perhaps if you use windowmaker or some lighter window manager then it'll do
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<Mineque>
skipper: try to use fluxbox, nice wm
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<skipper>
I can limp along this way until I can scape enough $ up to get something that will work. Thanks for the help all
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<Linf>
can anyone answer me if the ltsp-4.2 or something newer still depends on devfs ro run?
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<fxrsliberty>
does anyone know if cirrux processor support is enabled by default in todays kernel?
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<fxrsliberty>
moguist: do you know why the vmlinuz needs to invoke a temporary fs?
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<Sunborne>
Hi there folks. first-time irc'er here. also a first-time ltsp'er.
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i have kubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 5.0 (muekow) and it all seems to work OK except for one little thing -
17:12
I have KDE set up to auto-login a user (ltspguest) after 5 seconds. It works on the console just fine, but when a thin client boots they get the yellow Ubuntu login page instead of the KDE one and they have to enter a password.
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once they enter a password everything's ok... the kiosk admin profiles work beautifully and everything.
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At one point I did a sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 aptitude install kdm but that seemed kinda ugly, and in my Google travels someone said not to do it that way.
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Is there a really good tutorial on setting up MueKow with KDE? Or maybe I'll write one if I ever figure it out. ;)
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<irule>
hi I got 2 nics and I can ping to one of them but the other one does not respond, but when I put on the cable the screen does say link up, and if I disconnect I see the link down message, how may this be fiexed? thanks, PLUS! if I connect the cable to the eth0 I can ping and get a response from both eth0 and eth1, but if I put the cable on eth1, I get network unreachable from both eth0 and eth1
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<cliebow>
Sunborne, ont he terminal yu must be getting ldm which is a front for ssh login..independent of kde.
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you "could" sacrtifice scurity by using xdmcp instead of ldm
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for a login screen.
18:34
dont chroot and install kdm though..
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<Sunborne>
Thanks cliebow.
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Where does xdmcp get configured?
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<cliebow>
you cann use gdmconfiig to enable remote llogins
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and
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use screen_07=startx in an lts.conf..prob of your own making
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[default]
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scren_07=startx
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<cy_coe>
my client says :"NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out" after booting the kernel and running /scripts/nfs-top. where the hell is the problem?
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<cliebow>
add an e there
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what card?
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and what distro..and what ltsp?
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<cy_coe>
upps, just a moment
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<cliebow>
sounds like jkernel-2.6.17.
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<cy_coe>
Edubuntu 6.06.1, ltsp 4.1, NIC: rtl8xxx (NE2000PCI?)
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kernel is 2.6.15 but other kernels show the same problem
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booting with floppy!
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<cliebow>
floppy is fine
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ltsp4.2 rocks
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<cy_coe>
working for a week to get this tlsp running, but it drives me crazy. Perhaps a wrong bootfloppy?
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<cliebow>
must be a realtek 8029..i can t remember haaving trouble wit those..
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yuo boot from floppy..get a bunch of dots,,the kernal and intrd load..then you get this error at second dhcp?
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<cy_coe>
yes, correct
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<cliebow>
i hate to suggest this..but i think you should move to ltsp4.2 with 2.6.16.1.kernel
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<cy_coe>
I`ve already tried ltsp5 which comes with edubuntu7.04.... same Problem :(
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there is no 4.2 for edubuntu/ubuntu I think. So I have to compile myself, right?
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<cliebow>
4.2 is distro agnostic
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it will take some doing to see where you are..
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lessee ..dhcp is working ok so you get your kernel ok..tftp is also good..
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<cy_coe>
right
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<cliebow>
cana you grep filenamae /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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<cy_coe>
My English isn`t best... What you mean?
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<cliebow>
can you pastee your dhcpd.conf at pastebot.ltsp.org
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<ltsppbot>
"cy_coe" pasted "authoritative; option subnet-m" (38 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/131
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<Mineque>
cliebow: one question... have you any idea why dhcpd after restarting server sometimes get up, but most of not?
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and i have to run it manualy
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<cliebow>
must be the interface is noy up when dhcp tried to start
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<Mineque>
but when i starting it 5sec after boot process it starting without any problem
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hmm
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<cliebow>
cy_coe, your dhcpd.conf is set up for ltsp5..but your chroot it sounds like is ltsp4.1 which certainly wont work..
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<cy_coe>
hmmm
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<cliebow>
can you cd /var/lib.tftpboot
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s orty
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can you cd /var/lib/tftpboot
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<cy_coe>
cd /var/lib/tftpboot/ works
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<cliebow>
you ZDo have only one dhcp server on that network..
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<cy_coe>
right
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<Mineque>
cliebow: who are You asking? :P
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<cliebow>
i am asking cy_coe
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<Mineque>
ok :)
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<cy_coe>
the server has 2 NICs and dhcp is configured for eth1 (192.168.0.1)
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oh. by the way, the NICs are similar. Might that cause problems?
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no, when I think about it I don`t think so....
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<Mineque>
goodbye...
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<cy_coe>
if I had the wrong bootimage the kernel wouldn`t even download, right?
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<cliebow>
cy_coe, i am not sure how to help you..there is such a mix..
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<cy_coe>
hmmm. Do you recommend me ltsp5, or shoud I really try out 4.2?
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I`ve setup the server over and over again, once more doesn`t matter :(
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<cliebow>
jeez: i just dont know what to tell you..the brains are all in Spain..and asleep
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<cy_coe>
okay, thanks anyway.
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<cliebow>
ill look for you tomorrow..as i can..
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<cy_coe>
ok
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<PMantis>
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<ltspbot>
PMantis: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 18 hours, 1 minute, and 19 seconds ago: <jammcq> hmm, I suggest the theme from Sanford and Son
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