IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 January 2012   (all times are UTC)

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04:41
<alkisg>
Wow, bzr serve --http ==> loggerhead is nice!!!
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10:32
<csaba>
hello gents
10:32
please hlep me I got a problem running ltsp-update-image
10:32
it just stops at about 9%
10:33
it used to be just fine
10:33
I added some packages to the chroot before
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10:51
<csaba>
anyone?
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10:59
<VectorX>
when installing from alternate CD, why does it say configuring apt and start retrieving files ?
10:59
shouldnt the files already be there ?
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11:02
<muppis>
VectorX, I think it is normal behaviour of Debian installer. It uses CD as apt source.
11:02
<VectorX>
ubuntu
11:02
so its not really downloading ?
11:02
<muppis>
Ubuntu uses Debian installer aswell.
11:02
No.
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11:12
<csaba>
ltsp-update-image hangs
11:12
any idea why and how to fix it
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11:15
<csaba>
it is ubuntu 1.0.4
11:15
10.04
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11:24
<csaba>
it also very slow to install anything with apt-get install in chroot
11:25
and when finally finishes with install it sas error something about openty (/dev/pts not mounted?)
11:25
<muppis>
Shouldn't be slower than in normal system. Hardware error?
11:26
That's normal, can be ingored.
11:27
<csaba>
main problem is with ltsp-update-image
11:27
it hangs at 9%
11:29
<muppis>
Try generate clean image to different chroot.
11:29
<csaba>
how is that done?
11:32
<muppis>
I don't have any ltsp server here at hand now to give exact syntax, but with options of ltsp-build-image
11:32
<csaba>
oh you mean to create a brand new image
11:32
<muppis>
Yes.
11:33
You don't need to touch existing one anyhow.
11:33
<csaba>
what if I delete the current one or to move it somewhere lese
11:33
else
11:33
<muppis>
If you find that easier.
11:33
You can just rename it.
11:34
<csaba>
let me try it
11:36
ltsp-build-client is this the one?
11:36
I amnot shure if this would overwrite my chroot or just create e new image
11:39
<muppis>
It won't overwrite it.
11:40
<csaba>
man says ltsp-build-client creates a new chroot
11:40
and that is not what i want
11:41
<muppis>
Just move old to different name so you can redeem it when you done testing.
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11:50
<csaba>
ok let me ask how to build a new image in ltsp so that ltsp-update.image will not freeze the system
11:50
and I do not want to buld a new chroot since this one is already configured?
11:51
just to update
11:54
<muppis>
Whole system frozes during ltsp-update-image ?
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11:56
<csaba>
almost
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<csaba>
and I have to wait long to reocver
11:56
at least via vnc I can not do much not via ssh
12:00
what interesting is cpu drops to low and it just waits for something
12:01
any idea?
12:03
<muppis>
Look with top -command what system does during that time.
12:04
<csaba>
that is what I said .. it is not doing anything
12:04
<muppis>
No even iowait?
12:04
<csaba>
I can try again but it might take some time until I can answer
12:04
wait
12:05
mksquashfs started
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12:09
<andygraybeal>
happy morning
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12:59
<csaba>
muppis, it freezed again
13:00
after running ltsp-update-image
13:01
<alkisg>
csaba: are you using some file system other than ext4? E.g. NFS, SSHFS?
13:01
<csaba>
alkisg, on the chroot ?
13:01
<alkisg>
In general, in your server, in your chroot, wherever
13:02
<csaba>
I installed nfs-kernel-server on the server and exported /home
13:03
but did not set it up properly yet so I am not shure if this is a problem or not
13:03
<alkisg>
What kind of freeze it is?
13:03
<csaba>
well, all was fine until today, when I installed block-flash on the chroot
13:04
<alkisg>
Maybe you have /proc still mounted in the chroot?
13:04
<csaba>
then tried to updete the image, and then about at 9% it just stops
13:04
maybe
13:04
<alkisg>
Try to reboot your server
13:04
This will make sure that you don't have something mounted that you shouldn't
13:05
Of course if it's a production server, try to umount it first
13:05
<csaba>
and in connection to this when I try to apt-get install anything it is Very slow
13:05
<alkisg>
Try again after rebooting, no point in troubleshooting it if you forgot e.g. /proc mounted
13:06
<csaba>
eralier: and when finally finishes with install it sas error something about openty (/dev/pts not mounted?)
13:06
alkisg, ok I reboot then
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<csaba>
alkisg, just a min
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13:13
<VectorX>
i installed the 64 bit alternate cd and trying to connect a pentium ii client, getting error "This kernel requires an X86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU" what can i do to fix this
13:14
<muppis>
VectorX, you need i386 chroot.
13:14
Pentium II is 32 bit system.
13:14
<VectorX>
right, so does this mean i have to install the 32bit cd ?
13:14
the idea was to use all the mem in the system
13:15
<muppis>
ltsp-build-client --arch i386
13:16
<csaba>
alkisg, it is now passed 9% so perhaps you were right
13:16
alkisg, is it possible to create e new image from chroot and not update the old one?
13:17
<VectorX>
muppis so should work after running that ? its doing its thing atm
13:18
<muppis>
VectorX, maybe little adjustement needed to dhcpd.conf to offer correct files for client, but basically yes.
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<VectorX>
got any docs on that
13:23
to determine which arch to load depending on the system cpu
13:23
<csaba>
alkisg, it worked thanks
13:23
<knipwim>
VectorX: try wikipedia
13:24
for the cpu in question
13:24
<muppis>
VectorX, only bullet proof is use 32 bit for every client. Otherwise you must define that in dhcpd.conf.
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<VectorX>
muppis i guess that would make sense
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<csaba>
alkisg, it is now showing a fail event on my raid,
13:30
it is on of the /
13:32
<muppis>
csaba, something like that I expected.
13:35
<csaba>
really
13:35
has it happend to you too
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<muppis>
Not in LTSP enviroment, but sounded like it.
13:37
<csaba>
interesting is that the smart status is fine
13:38
but the raid status is not
13:38
hm
13:38
<muppis>
Maybe controller is failing?
13:38
<VectorX>
muppis ok so its downloading a whole bunch of stuff(ubuntu), is there some offline way I can do this, obviously the amd64 alternate cd isnt sufficing
13:39
<csaba>
muppis, tomorrow I will try it with another disk
13:40
it is sw raid not hw
13:40
<muppis>
VectorX, I think not.
13:40
csaba, ok.
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13:53
<csaba>
thanks for helping
13:54
<muppis>
No prob.
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<csaba>
I am glad I did a raid 1 install instead of just with 1 disk
14:02
<muppis>
Raid 1 really saves the day.
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<Guest56586>
hoping for a succesful replace
14:04
interesting is that only one partition is degraded and not the whole disk
14:06
<muppis>
Can be predective for full failure and smart doesn't detect that yet. In my home server is same situation, smart show ok for all, but disk doesn't start if cold.
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14:32
<dgroos>
alkisg: epoptes help?
14:32
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
14:32
<alkisg>
dgroos: if it's a fast one... I'm going to leave in 5'
14:32
hi mgariepy
14:32
<mgariepy>
how are you doing alkisg ?
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14:32
<dgroos>
'k
14:33
I launch epoptes and on the fat client and it shows only grayed out icons...
14:33
<alkisg>
Btw, the certificate generated by default by openssl is only valid for a month, I hope that doesn't break installations after 1 month, I just saw that, didn't investigate yet if it causes problems...
14:33
Did it use to work before?
14:33
<dgroos>
I name all the clients via MAC in lts.conf.
14:33
Yes.
14:34
I haven't used it in a while.
14:34
<alkisg>
It might be that certificate problem then
14:34
Let's leave it for now, I'll look at it tomorrow, and tell you if it was that
14:34
If you're in a hurry, you can regenerate the certificate
14:34
Or disable encryption
14:34
<dgroos>
OK, I'll try that and see if it works.
14:35
how disable?
14:35
is it easy?
14:35
<alkisg>
Make /etc/epoptes/server.crt zero-size, both in the server and the chroot
14:35
<dgroos>
I'll google that, thanks.
14:35
<alkisg>
(e.g. mv server.crt server.bak; touch server.crt, something like that)
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14:35
<dgroos>
OK
14:36
Thanks, have a good afternoon!
14:37
<alkisg>
u 2
14:37
bb
14:37
<dgroos>
adios
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<knipwim>
what version of nbd are you guys using?
16:24
I'm getting a "Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" when trying to boot via nbd
16:24
using 2.9.22 myself
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<knipwim>
ehm, nm on the version, upgrading to 2.9.25 didn't help
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<alkisg>
dgroos: you can check the date of the epoptes certificate with: openssl x509 -in /etc/epoptes/server.crt -noout -text | grep "Not After"
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