IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 September 2012   (all times are UTC)

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06:24
<mealstrom>
good morning
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06:46
<knipwim>
morning :)
06:49
<alkisg>
Καλημέρα :)
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<muppis>
Huomenta :)
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10:17
<garymc>
Hi Guys, im having real problems with my LTSP server. All units keep losing internet connectivity and after about 5 minutes they will get it back, but sometimes its longer and sometimes it quicker to regain connection.
10:17
How can I troubleshoot this or fix it as it has become a pure bane and I am considering installing windows on each machine so they have internet access without interuption
10:18
<muppis>
Clients go thru server?
10:18
<garymc>
yes but they are FAT clients
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10:19
<garymc>
Its not the internet connection because we have machines using the same internet connection that run windows or Mac Os with no problems
10:20
<muppis>
How aboit livecd?
10:20
About..
10:40
<xsl>
garymc what distro your using?
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<markit>
alkisg: still sshfs working fine and a better choice than nfs?
12:03
<alkisg>
markit: no idea, I haven't heard any complains yet though
12:03
Since the default works, we leave it at that
12:04
<markit>
alkisg: fine, I ask just to make sure :)
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12:14
<NeilSorrel>
Apols first for my knowledge level but for a multi distro ltsp environ do you have to have separate ltsp servers ?
12:14
and anybody managed to run ltsp on bodhi ? as its a super tiny image ?
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<garymc>
xsl its ubuntu
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13:00
<garymc>
I have been away for a bit any help would be great
13:00
Hi Guys, im having real problems with my LTSP server. All units keep losing internet connectivity and after about 5 minutes they will get it back, but sometimes its longer and sometimes it quicker to regain connection.
13:00
How can I troubleshoot this or fix it as it has become a pure bane and I am considering installing windows on each machine so they have internet access without interuption
13:00
Its UBUNTU build
13:01
I dont want to throw away my LTSP setup I just need the internet to stay on as it costs money if it breaks
13:02
<muppis>
garymc, tried those clients with livecd?
13:05
<garymc>
i dont know what that is
13:05
Its a live system, my staff use it to access a website that we enter information on to
13:06
<muppis>
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
13:06
<garymc>
they speak to people on the phone and take down details into a web system
13:07
oh ok so just install ubuntu on each machine and see how the connection is then?
13:07
I have 30 machines
13:08
but shouldnt the internet just work ok through LTSP?
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<muppis>
Should, so that's why try it with livecd to see is it hardware or software problem.
13:09
garymc, no need to install. Just boot it from Desktop CD and use it as is.
13:09
<garymc>
but I need a solid system that works, if a CD drive fails then im back to square 1
13:09
that also means burning 30 cds
13:09
<muppis>
Just one.
13:10
<garymc>
just one what?
13:10
<muppis>
Cd
13:10
You don't need to test them at same time. One by one.
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<garymc>
ok but our problem is intermittent. So the connection fails when it wants to
13:13
<gothaggis|work>
hello, is there a way to see all of the ip addresses that the thin clients have (from when logged into the server that isn't the dhcp server)?
13:14
<muppis>
gothaggis|work, command w shows logged in users and where they's IP.
13:15
<gothaggis|work>
thanks!
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<Stile>
Hello, I'm having a problem with LTSP5 on Ubuntu 12.04. I can't get LDM to allow password changes when a password is expired.
14:05
Unexpired passwords allow login and LTSP works as expected.
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The ldm.log on the client shows "CRITICAL: no response, restarting"
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<mgariepy>
apt-cahe show rtl
14:20
oops hehe ;)
14:21
Stile, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/412197
14:24
<Stile>
So this is expected behavior at this point in time?
14:24
The final entry is Alkis Georgopoulos (alkisg) on 2012-02-17
14:24
no longer affects: ldm (Ubuntu)
14:24
<alkisg>
Stile: that's just an organizational comment
14:25
It means it's not ubuntu specific, it's a distro-agnostic ltsp problem
14:25
But that bug is not related to what you're asking
14:25
Password error != password expiration
14:25
I think ldm has code for password expiration
14:25
<Stile>
True.
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<alkisg>
Not sure if it has been tested/working lately
14:26
<Stile>
I would think that would be a common occurence.
14:26
<alkisg>
Not all installations use a password expiry policy
14:26
!screen_02
14:26
<ltsp>
screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
14:27
<alkisg>
You can try `ssh user@server` from screen_02 to test
14:27
If you get an ssh prompt to update your password,
14:27
and you're able to change it, and then switch to ldm and login,
14:27
then yeah we can safely say it's a bug and you need to file it to launchpad
14:27
Change "user" to an existing user with an expired password, but leave "server" as it is, don't replace it with anything
14:32
<Stile>
using the console I do get a password change prompt.
14:32
After changing it from the console I am able to login.
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<Stile>
Looks like a bug needs to be filed.
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<alkisg>
!ltsp-bug
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<ltsp>
ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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<gothaggis|work>
is there anyway to force all ltsp users to log off each night?
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<knipwim>
gothaggis|work: yes, by setting SHUTDOWN_TIME=12:00:00 in your lts.conf
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ah, no, that's shutdown
16:08
but the users will be logged off :)
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<ltspuser_88>
Hello folks
16:30
Can someone give some help please?
16:31
<||cw>
that's really going to depend on the question
16:31
<ltspuser_88>
hahah
16:32
is about runing LDM on a local system.
16:32
i am testing a raspberry pi as thinclinet
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i tested berryterminal, but it was a lillte slow, and i have no way of see whats is the problem, if it is CPU or network.
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now i am thinking of running LDM directed from raspbian so i can use htop and other resources to see whats is going on
16:35
does anyone can help?
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||cw:
16:36
<||cw>
are you pxe booting the rpi?
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<ltspuser_88>
nops, raspberry pi does not support this
16:36
bytheway it is an ARM
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<||cw>
I know about it.
16:37
<ltspuser_88>
oh sorry.
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<ltspuser_88>
so i am just trying to start LDM and make it connect to my LTSP server
16:37
as berryterminal o does
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<||cw>
have you tried disabling compress/encryption?
16:39
<ltspuser_88>
not on this particular test
16:39
<||cw>
set LDM_DIRECTX=true
16:39
<ltspuser_88>
i could try
16:40
i will try this
16:40
but do you know how to configure LDM from a local system?
16:41
<ogra_>
isnt there a recent u-boot for the RPi ? you should be able to PXE boot it
16:41
you just need an armel nbd image on the server and indeed uImage and uInitrd in the tftp dir
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<ltspuser_88>
||cw: i guess i am not able to disable SSH compression, cause this conf comes from client right? I am not hable to "edit" any conf on berryterminal
16:43
ogra_: let me look for it!
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<||cw>
I'm not sure how berryterminal works. it's not impossible for it to grab the servers lts.conf, in fact it would be smart to do so
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<ltspuser_88>
yeah, but the developer said is not getting it right now ..
16:45
<||cw>
seems odd that you wouldn't be able to edit the local file. worst case, you stick the sd card in your pc and edit it, right?
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<ltspuser_88>
it seens that it odes not have the lts.conf
16:47
let me check
16:47
the developer implemented part of LDM
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<||cw>
it might be easier to go the pxe route than to build your own arm thin distro
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<ltspuser_88>
||cw: i am just trying to get LDM to work on raspbian but can't get it right now.. once i teste and see what th eproblem is i might work on a thin distro
16:54
<vagrantc>
nice!
16:54* vagrantc would be happy to help, although has limited free time today
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<jammcq>
heyllo friends
17:30
err... hello friends
17:33* vagrantc waves
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<alkisg>
Hello
17:50
<highvoltage>
howdy
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: thanks for the packaging, successfully built on launchpad, will try it tomorro
18:41
w
18:42
<vagrantc>
yay
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