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Channel log from 25 November 2006   (all times are UTC)

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<mtgstuber>
I'm hitting a strange error trying to setup LBE. When the crosscomp build script runs, it fails on glibc.
01:19
From the log file I get:
01:19
CPP='/home/server/Development/lbe/i386-linux-crosscomp/bin/gcc -E -x c-header' /home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build/elf/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build:/home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build/math:/home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build/elf:/home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build/dlfcn:/home/server/Development/l
01:19
/home/server/Development/lbe/crosscomp-src/glibc/glibc-build/sunrpc/rpcgen: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
01:19
Any notion?
01:20
It seems that the rpcgen and rpcinfo executables created by the build scripts are corrupt.
01:21
When I run rpcinfo I get "-su: ./rpcinfo: No such file or directory"
01:21
When I run ldd on it, I get a similar "No such file or directory error."
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<jernst>
sep: thanks, your advices worked
05:08
I have some issues though
05:09
issue #1: when activating sound in lts.conf I have this error message when starting GNOME: http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturewb3.png
05:10
(gnome-settings-daemon seems to crash)
05:10
however sound works fine
05:10
issue #2 evolution-alarm-notify crashes
05:11
issue #3 I feel everything is quite slow and it doesn't seem to be network,memory or cpu bound
05:11
<ogra>
only if you have running another evo with the same user somewhere
05:11
<jernst>
ogra: that might explain why i didn't got this message everytime
05:11
<ogra>
g-s-d seems to have a race condition with dbus starting to slow ...
05:11
<jernst>
but issue #1 and #3 are still there when there are no other client
05:12
<ogra>
the timing was adjusted, but on slow machines or on delayed networks you might still see it
05:12
<jernst>
ogra: is there a workaround ?
05:12
<ogra>
no idea, i cant reproduce it since the final release anymore
05:13
<jernst>
I have this problem even with gigabit connection and two dual core cpus with 1 and 2 gigs of memory, don't think it's too slow
05:13
<ogra>
i think there is some gconf key for g-s-d you can set to make it wait longer for dbus
05:13
for #3 try to switch to 16bit colors ...
05:13
<jernst>
ogra: what is strange is that it's only happening when activating sound
05:14
I'm already using 16bit, maybe I should not be using auto as graphic driver
05:16
I couldn't find a document that describes all the settings available in lts.conf... is there any ?
05:17
<ogra>
dont set the graphics drive at all
05:17
auto is the default anyway
05:17
setting it wil just slow down booting
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<jernst>
ogra: ok will do
05:19
<SWAT>
is there a way (a rule of thumb) to calculate the server requirements for an X number of clients?
05:19
<jernst>
ogra: remote X doesn't seem to output it's logs somewhere so I cannot tell what graphic driver is used, shouldn't it be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
05:20
SWAT: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
05:21
<SWAT>
jernst, merci
05:22
<jernst>
de rien ;-)
05:25
<SWAT>
I'm currently looking into the possibilities of thin-client usage using linux. Offcourse this isn't applicable for applications that require thick client (e.g. AutoCAD etc.). Is this ltsp 'safe'? I'm also very security oriented
05:25
<jernst>
everything is ssh encrypted, so I would say yes
05:26
<SWAT>
ow great :)
05:26
<jernst>
Does anyone knows if it is possible to have input sound working ?
05:27
<ogra>
SWAT, if you use a gnome or KDE desktop the reqs are a lot higher than on that wikipage ... 256M to run the server and for gnome 128M/KDE 150M per client at least ...
05:27
if youur users all use the same apps this drops again due to mem sharing ...
05:28* ogra has to go now ... bbl
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09:47
<mighty-d>
Hi, can somebody help me, im trying to get ltsp to work. I'm using slackware 11 and ltsp 4-2 with etherboot from rom-o-matic, so far the thin client gets its IP address but won't load the vmlinuz.... file
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10:00
<cliebow>
might-d:still there?
10:01
mighty-d:..you have tftp installed..via inetd?
10:03
check in /etc/inetd.conf..is there a -s parameter?
10:04
which is part of the path tftp assumes when it looks for files.
10:05
if grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf that will show what is appended to the -s parameter in inetd.conf
10:11
<mighty-d>
yes
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inetd
10:11
yes there is a -s parameter
10:12
ok
10:12
wait
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filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0";
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filename "/lts/vmlinuz-2.6.16.1-ltsp-2";
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from dhcpd
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.conf
10:12
cliebow are you there?
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10:16
<mighty-d>
hello ? i closed this window by mistake, if you wrote something please paste ???
10:16
<cliebow>
what is the -s param
10:16
<mighty-d>
wait
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<mighty-d>
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd in.tftpd -s /tftpboot -r blksiz
10:16
from inetd.conf
10:18
<cliebow>
that should be ok..check that /tftpboot/lts contyains that exact file..you can comment the -s and specify the entire path to that file for debugging purposes..just in case your tftp migth not ohnor the -s parameter
10:18
in dhcpd.conf
10:19
i have to run in a sec
10:20
you can also check to see if tftp is in fact running with...netstat -anp|grep ":69"
10:20
<mighty-d>
ok wait
10:20
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 2710/inetd
10:21
where should i specify the entire path? in tftpd or in dhcpd?
10:21
<cliebow>
good tftp seems runing
10:21
in dhcpd.conf
10:21
<mighty-d>
mmm, i've already done that
10:21
<cliebow>
with -s /tftpboot commented ?
10:21
<mighty-d>
mmm
10:21
<cliebow>
in inetd.conf
10:22
<mighty-d>
no, so i just take out the -s /tftpboot ??
10:22
<cliebow>
worth a shot
10:22
<mighty-d>
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd in.tftpd -r blksiz
10:22
like that?
10:22
<cliebow>
it is not a cecure thing to leave that way..but for debug puposes
10:22
<mighty-d>
ok
10:23
so in filename i have to write the whole path
10:23
<cliebow>
eyond that check wiki.ltsp.org for tftp protocol and slack specific info
10:23
yes if there is no -s
10:23
<mighty-d>
ok, i'll check this out...
10:23
<cliebow>
just be sure the file really exists
10:23
<mighty-d>
yes of course
10:24
<cliebow>
older ltspadmin my give you ltsp-1 not ltsp-2 for 2.6.16.1 in /tftpboot/lts
10:25
have an appt...gotta run..
10:25
<mighty-d>
ok, thanks a lot
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<jammcq>
g'morning
10:28
<mighty-d>
it keeps printing dots
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<jernst>
hello, is it possible to make audio input work on the clients ?
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<efra>
Hi everybody
10:52
<jernst>
hi efra
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<vagrantc>
jernst: should check the sound wiki
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!sound
10:54
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
10:59
<jernst>
vagrantc: I already read it thanks, but I don't see anything about sound input (only output), maybe it just works...
11:00
<vagrantc>
probably not.
11:00
remote sound is tricky.
11:01
<jernst>
so it seems but some of my users will need it for skype/ekiga
11:01
<vagrantc>
jernst: run it as a local app.
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<mighty-d>
i'm trying to set a ltsp, im using inetd and slackware 11.. so far i get dhcp address on the thin client, and i can see the tftp request on ethereal but i dont see any response from tftp... can anyone help me?
11:05
<KBON>
does your client display an tftp error or something?
11:06
<jernst>
vagrantc: i'm using muekow on edgy, do you know about some documentation for running local apps ? Another "problem" is that if I chroot to the ltsp chroot and apt-get skype for example, it will pull out all the dependencies
11:06
<vagrantc>
jernst: what do you mean by "pull out" ?
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<vagrantc>
jernst: there isn't much documentation for running local apps with the muekow stuff yet. it's easier if you run all applications locally than just some applications locally.
11:08
<jernst>
I mean downloading and installing the whole gnome desktop when installing ekiga for example
11:08
<vagrantc>
ok, so behaving the way it should :P
11:08
<KBON>
can't you just use the rc.d scripts for those local apps? That's what I do anyway, true, they run as root, but who cares :)
11:09
<vagrantc>
jernst: to run local apps, you need the dependencies satisfied in the chroot.
11:10
<jernst>
vagrantc: ok, and then when I'm on the remote session, how am I supposed tu run the apps drom the chroot ?
11:12
vagrantc: must I tell my user to chroot to /opt/ltsp/i386 and then run the application from there ?
11:12
vagrantc: forget what I just said... it won't be local then ;-)
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<vagrantc>
jernst: you have a number of options, none of which are well documented.
11:16
jernst: you can set up network authentication and network mounting of home directories on the client, and ssh -X back to the client to run the application.
11:17
jernst: you can not log in to the server at all, install a local display manager (gdm/kdm) and run the whole environment locally.
11:18
<jernst>
then it won't be a thin client anymore isn't it ?
11:18
<vagrantc>
jernst: you can set up network authentication and network mounting of home directories on the client, and ssh back to the client with DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY variables properly exported, and run the application.
11:19
those are the 3 basic options.
11:20
jernst: that method only works with fairly powerful thin clients, yes. though the root filesystem is shared and management is shared.
11:20
so it's not as bad as many hard drive installations.
11:21
<jernst>
indeed
11:22
<vagrantc>
be sure to document whatever you work on, so the next person has a head start :)
11:22
<jernst>
vagrantc: yes I have a great deal of difficulties to find accurate documentation
11:22
<vagrantc>
jernst: oh, there might be a /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/workstation mini-howto, that describes how to run all applications locall.
11:23
<jernst>
there is some documentation on the Ubuntu wiki about mukow but there are a lot of broken links (I will fix them)
11:23
<vagrantc>
jernst: you're working with a very new ltsp.
11:24
jernst: the first implementation of it was released only a little over a year ago.
11:24
<jernst>
vagrantc: I'm very new to thinclients and it seems to work quite well (I feel it's a little bit slow, but I guess it will improve over time)
11:24
<vagrantc>
jernst: what kind of hardware for your thin clients?
11:26
<jernst>
I'm currently making some experiments with ltsp in my father's company
11:27
I have some PIII's and PIVs with ~512MB but I was planning to buy a HP Compaq Thin Client t5125 to make tests
11:27
users there are mostly doing office work (openoffice, firefox, evolution)
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<vagrantc>
jernst: what specs are the compaq thin clients?
11:30
jernst: another way to improve speed (at the expense of security) is to configure gdm on your server to do xdmcp, and configure the thin-clients to log in via that.
11:30
<jernst>
VIA Eden 400 MHz, 128MB DDR, 32MB flash
11:31
vagrantc: xdmcp is a lot faster than ssh ?
11:31
<vagrantc>
jernst: way faster.
11:31
<KBON>
are you going to run skype locally on those VIA's?
11:31
<jernst>
KBON: I was hoping to run everything on the server
11:32
vagrantc: and if I choose to keep ssh I guest deactivating compression would make it faster too (at least until the network bandwith is big enough)
11:32
<KBON>
thought so... 400Mhz isn't alot but for a clean thin clients it's plenty
11:33
<vagrantc>
jernst: i think default is to not use compression.
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<jernst>
vagrantc: I guess there is no doc for using xdmcp instead of ssh ?
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<vagrantc>
jernst: add SCREEN_07=startx to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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jernst: and install gdm on your server, and futz around in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf for enableing xdmcp or maybe it's called remote login
11:36
jernst: or there's also a GUI gdm configuration thing that would probably work.
11:38
<jernst>
vagrantc: gdmsetup
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<vagrantc>
the documentation for using xdmcp from ltsp 4.2 will probably be similar, too.
11:39
<jernst>
vagrantc: I will try it and let you know when I'll get a chance to go there.
11:40
vagrantc: thanks by the way. I'll try to contribute a bit to the documentation
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<KBON>
vagrantc: I'm now running LTSP-4.2 thin clients from my Debian server, works great. However I'd like to run Ubuntu on the clients (fat). I have extracted the root Ubuntu installs. How should I do this? Replace /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386 with the ubuntu-root? I suppose I have to keep some LTSP-files from the "old" root, but which ones?
11:42
<vagrantc>
KBON: the ubuntu ltsp will install in /opt/ltsp/i386, so it shouldn't be a problem.
11:42
<bronze>
kbon thereis a fat client article on the LTSP wiki
11:42
<KBON>
sure but I want to keep my server running Debian
11:42
<vagrantc>
KBON: what version of debian?
11:43
<KBON>
hmm... mixed, a bit of that, a bit of that, but recent, I'm mostly running unstable
11:43
<vagrantc>
KBON: you could just use the ltsp utilities from debian to create debian-based ltsp environments.
11:44
KBON: specifically, ltsp-server package.
11:44
<KBON>
can't I use the ltsp-utilities from ubuntu on debian to create ubuntu-based ltsp environments?
11:44
<vagrantc>
with a lot of hacking, maybe.
11:44
<KBON>
I like debian on servers, but ubuntu on clients, and I like to make things over-complicated :)
11:45
<jernst>
I will start by fixing the dead links in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
11:45
<vagrantc>
KBON: it's definitely possible, but will require a fair bit of work, as it assumes you want to install the same distribution that you're installing.
11:45
<KBON>
but thanks for the help, I'll try and hack my way out of it myself
11:46
okay, I'm not affraid of work :-) ... perhaps I can just point the ltsp-utilities to use another root (ubuntu) as "source" distribution
11:46
<vagrantc>
KBON: if you're using the tarballs, though, all you need to do is unpack them in /opt/ltsp and run ltsp-update-kernels and configure dhcp and tftp appropriately.
11:47
<KBON>
which tarballs are you referring to? LTSP or ubuntu?
11:47
<vagrantc>
KBON: use ltsp-server. and it won't "just work" to point them to a different source distribution.
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<pr>
hi all
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<vagrantc>
KBON: you said "I have extracted the root Ubuntu installs.", and i assumed you had downloaded one of ogra's pre-built LTSP-Ubuntu tarballs.
11:48
<pr>
i need help
11:48
how can i safely diconnect the terminal client???
11:48
if there exist a command which is doing this ...
11:48
or something like it??
11:48
<KBON>
no, I couldn't find anything appropriate so I downloaded the ISO image of ubuntu and unpacked the squasfs containing the ubuntu root
11:49
<pr>
please help me
11:49
<vagrantc>
KBON: actually, the simplest option to get ubuntu LTSP on a debian server is to install an ubuntu chroot on your debian server, apt-get install ltsp-server, run ltsp-build-client there, and then copy /opt/ltsp/i386 (ubuntu) to /opt/ltsp/i386 (on the debian server)
11:49
<neuralis>
pr: there is no need to "safely disconnect"
11:50
pr: just have the user log out of the desktop environment if she's logged in, and then unplug the terminal or power it off.
11:50
<KBON>
vagrantc: damnit, ofcourse, that's really easy! Thanks!!
11:50
<vagrantc>
KBON: in fact, you could even do: mount --bind /opt/ltsp/ /path/to/ubuntu/chroot/opt/ltsp
11:51
<pr>
but it happened when i done this and appeared after the login that the panel is already running ...
11:51
<vagrantc>
and then you wouldn't even have to copy it.
11:51
<KBON>
isn't that like making a symlink then?
11:52
<vagrantc>
KBON: a symlink won't work properly in the chroot, probably.
11:52
though it depends on how you set it up.
11:52
<KBON>
good point, didn't knew the mount --bind command, it's usefull
11:55
<vagrantc>
very useful.
11:56
mount --move is scary.
11:57
<KBON>
got to go, dinner calls. Thanks for the nice support!
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<jernst>
good night
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<pr>
pls help me how it is possible to disconnect thin client
12:21
when the user is logging out and it's simply powering down the thin client without pressing disconnect, the workstation is coming back after the login with a strange error like "unable to put desktop panel" because it's locked
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<chupacabra>
a darn spam made its way to the list. dern it.
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<jammcq>
ogra: hey
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<chupacabra>
hey jim, you know about wine at all?
14:53
<jammcq>
well.... I know red goes with beef, and white goes with pasta
14:53
and fish
14:53
what else is there to know?
14:53
<chupacabra>
lol
14:53
<ogra>
jammcq, ho
14:53
<chupacabra>
i inherited a wine box full of apps and know nothing about it.
14:54
<efra>
xDDDD
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<jammcq>
ogra: quite a trip you are on, eh?
14:54
<ogra>
need to give the cable back to RichEd ... so i'll drop out again ...
14:54
<jammcq>
or are yo uback yet
14:54
<chupacabra>
i hate windows.
14:54
<ogra>
seen my blog ?
14:54
<jammcq>
yeah, very nice story
14:54
<ogra>
no, i'll have to hang around here until monday morning 5am
14:55
<jammcq>
wow
14:55
<ogra>
there is more to come ;)
14:55
he coference ended today
14:55
i got assigned the leadership for the development of the project ... ;)
14:55
<jammcq>
ogra: that'll be a great story to tell, next time scotty tells his story of the trout princesses
14:55
<ogra>
hahaha
14:55
<jammcq>
ogra: which project?
14:55
<ogra>
edulinux
14:55
<jammcq>
oh?
14:56
how is that different from edubuntu ?
14:56
<ogra>
an EU sponsored project to establish an remote e-learning platform
14:56
<jammcq>
hmmmmmmm, sounds very cool
14:56
<ogra>
i.e. a totally spoiled moodle ;)
14:57
its a bit beyond my scope for edubuntu, but the EU will pay money for an moodle programmer ... so i can get a cool enhanced moodle for free for edubuntu and they get edubuntu as a base for their server
14:57
<jammcq>
ogra: so, you'll become a moodle programmer?
14:57
<ogra>
nah
14:58
i think we'll contract one ... not sure yet, i have no idea what mark wil say about all this
14:58
<jammcq>
heh
14:59
<ogra>
but i wont have time to do more than delegating in that project, else edubuntu will suffer
14:59
ok, rich needs the cable ... bll
14:59
err
14:59
bbl
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<cliebow>
jammcq: no if there is anything weird iin Slack 11 re tftp?
15:22
jammcq:id bet his prob is next-server
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<cliebow>
daniq:Hey!!
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<daniQ>
hello
15:40
i'm having printer issues on the ubuntu side
15:43
cliebow - on the microcrap side Bill has to unplug and replug the printer cable in to get it to work...
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<cliebow>
i odnt know of any reason.
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perhaps googling by mthe model of printer may help
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so probs on both sides?
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<cliebow>
ogra:you hiring?
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<knitoperu>
Hi Evribody!
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<knitoperu>
Ihave an k12ltsp server instaled and working. I have read about "freenx" and I know that it's included in k12ltsp...
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I've read that it's an excellent choice, that is faster than anything and things like that
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has somebody experience with freenx? it's so wonderfull like I've read?
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It's a differrent thing from ltsp? an alternative? or a complement?
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<daniQ>
cliebow - i can't get "kingdom of loathing" to work on the ubuntu side either and it's a super fun game...
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<cliebow>
knito: i use freenx all the time..it is Awesome
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daniq:it wont compile?
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<daniQ>
cliebow - it must have been a quirk...it just worked....huh...the game not the printer
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<cliebow>
is that web based game?
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knitoperu: i use freenx all the time..it is Awesome
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<daniQ>
cliebow - yes and it rocks...
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<cliebow>
daniQ:sometinme we have to bite the bullet and upgrade to edgy..it means the modem wont work without recompiling the driver
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<daniQ>
cliebow - the printer is my main annoyance...it prints when i reboot...printing something i had tried to print days earlier
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<cliebow>
hmm, cups must be dying or somethjing?
16:34
you can use lpq -aa to see what is in the printqueue
16:34
you can use lpq -a to see what is in the printqueue
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<daniQ>
cliebow - turlough has a REALLY bad haircut and looks silly.....(make sure to pass it on to leigh)
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cliebow - i just erased print que stuff...i had checked it earlier and it didn't show any documents...
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<cliebow>
wht model printer?
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<daniQ>
cliebow - lexmark Z22
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cliebow - it's kinda old...
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<cliebow>
perhaps the drivers are flaky..ill google a litle
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<daniQ>
thanks
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<ogra>
vagrantc, !
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<vagrantc>
ogra: hi!
17:04* vagrantc is setting up an IP phone.
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<ogra>
cool
17:04* ogra is sitting in poland
17:05* cliebow_ cliebow waves to ogra
17:06* ogra waves back
17:07* vagrantc is worried firewalling is getting in the way
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<vagrantc>
dial tone!
17:08* vagrantc dances
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<ogra>
:)
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<cliebow_>
Cool
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<edgarin>
Hi to all
21:32
how are all people?
21:32
<ball>
hello edgarin
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<edgarin>
hello ball where are you from?
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<ball>
I'm from Britain, but I live in the U.S.
21:33
<edgarin>
ohh cool!
21:34
ball, Im from Guatemala city
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<ball>
Is it nice there?
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<edgarin>
ltsp?
21:35
<ball>
:-)
21:35
<edgarin>
ball, you are talking about the popularity of ltsp in Guatemala?
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<ball>
I wasn't, but that's a good on-topic question.
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<edgarin>
ok
21:37
The popularity of LTSP in Guatemala is very little
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<ball>
Do you use it?
21:38
<edgarin>
because, not exist a popularity of free software
21:38
ball, yeahh of course
21:38
I use LTSP since the 2005 year
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excuseme for my english but i'm learning english my language natal is the spaish
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spanish
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<ball>
That's great. Your English is very good.
21:39
<edgarin>
really?
21:39
cool!
21:39
I'm very happy ;)
21:39* vagrantc helped someone install debian in quetzaltenango this summer
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<vagrantc>
two machines, actually
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<edgarin>
vagrantc, who is the person of Quetzaltenango?
21:40
Quetzaltenango is a state of Guatemala
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: one computer was at a spanish school, and the other was my spanish teacher's computer Jorge.
21:41
edgarin: state, or city, or both?
21:41
i know it's a city.
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though everyone there called it "Xela"
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<edgarin>
in Guatemala exists State
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and each state have a city
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for example
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the state Quetzaltenango have a city called "Xela"
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;)
21:42
vagrantc, yo know this city?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: i spent a month there.
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edgarin: yo estudio espanol en xela por dos semanas
21:43
<edgarin>
ohh! cool
21:43
vagrantc, En este año veniste a Guatemala?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: no estoy seguro.
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<ball>
hola
21:44
<edgarin>
vagrantc, You're spent in Guatemala was in the currente year?
21:44* ball exhausts his Espan~iol
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: si!
21:44
edgarin: junio.
21:45
<edgarin>
vagrantc, What month?
21:45
Ohh cool!
21:45
<vagrantc>
edgarin: june.. the 6th month
21:45
<edgarin>
vagrantc, what is your name?
21:45
<vagrantc>
edgarin: i have many names :)
21:46
<edgarin>
Jejejeje
21:46
but I wan know you really name
21:46
jeje
21:46
<vagrantc>
they are all real :P
21:46
<edgarin>
vgrantc, :p
21:46
vagrantc, you know Jorge Dargon?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: i don't think so
21:47
edgarin: there's probably a lot of jorge's in xela :)
21:47
<edgarin>
vagrantc, umm.. you know in Guatemala some people of the Xela Linux User Group?
21:47
<vagrantc>
edgarin: no! i wish i had known!
21:48
edgarin: i didn't even think to look.
21:48
<edgarin>
ohh cool!
21:48
<vagrantc>
edgarin: quiero visitar Guatamala otra vez. pero, otra paises tambien.
21:48
<edgarin>
and you have a plans to travel in another time to Guatemala?
21:48
vagrantc, cool!
21:49
vagrantc, Cuando vengas a Guatemala avisamen yo te conocere
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<vagrantc>
neccesito usar google traduccion
21:50
<edgarin>
vagrantc, When you have a plans to arrive Guatemala, I want meet you in live
21:51
vagrantc, ok, write first in spanish and follow in english
21:51
<vagrantc>
edgarin: i want to work on free software projects in latin america :)
21:51
<edgarin>
vagrantc, ohh cool, What projects?
21:52
<vagrantc>
edgarin: mostly interested in free internet access community center type things.
21:52
edgarin: i know some people who work on huge projects like that in brazil.
21:53
<edgarin>
vagrantc, yes brazil is a country with help to the project of free internet access
21:53
<vagrantc>
edgarin: i also know some folks working in venezuela on similar projects.
21:54
<edgarin>
vagrantc, I know Venezuela
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in the octuber month i spend in venezuela for a one week in the IV Forum of Free Knowledge
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<vagrantc>
very cool.
21:54
<edgarin>
I teach a conference of LTSP
21:54
<vagrantc>
nice.
21:55
<edgarin>
I spend in the Monagas state
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in the Maturin city
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wait.. I Back again in one minute
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: a talk i gave with a person from venezuela: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Resurrecting_Computers_with_Free_Software
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<edgarin>
ohh
22:00
you're conference was in Mexico?
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vagrantc, but you conference was in the debconf 6 in Mexico it is ok?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: yeah, i went to debconf6 in mexico, and then to guatemala afterwards
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<edgarin>
ohhh!
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in this moment I'am downloaded a video of the link the free geek
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<edgarin>
vagrantc, you can give me your email for have a contact with you?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: vagrant@freegeek.org
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<edgarin>
ok
22:08
and your name?
22:08
is Vagrant?
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: for free software projects, i usually go by Vagrant or Vagrant Cascadian
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<edgarin>
ok perfect
22:09
i want sleep :S
22:09
in Guatemala the time is 22:08 pm
22:09
in U. S?
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<ball>
Depends where you live, but it's 22:08 here too (Illinois)
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<vagrantc>
in new mexico, it's about 21:08
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<edgarin>
yeahh
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vagrantc, I want to you know about me
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<vagrantc>
edgarin: i look forward to the chance to meet you :)
22:12
<edgarin>
vagrantc, I have 15 years old!
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I'm the teenayer of this world implement LTSP
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jejeje ;)
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and using free software too
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<vagrantc>
excellent.
22:14
<edgarin>
and I have a blog if you want meet a little about me the URL is http://edgarin.wordpress.com
22:14
<ball>
I have a blog, but nobody reads it ;-)
22:14
<edgarin>
jejejejeje
22:15
please give me the URL of you blog
22:15
<ball>
http://potchery.blogspot.com/
22:15
<edgarin>
ok
22:15
since of this moment I'm a new reader of your blog ;)
22:17
ball vagrantc, this is a picture of me http://static.flickr.com/89/282461984_d1bbd5913e.jpg
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the other person of this picture is my daddy
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<ball>
Nice lawn :-)
22:18
<edgarin>
what is lawn?
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ok, Nice to meet you
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happy night
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I want talk with you tomorrow
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bye bye!
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<ball>
Goodbye.
22:20
Have a peaceful night.
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<edgarin>
thanks!