IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 February 2013   (all times are UTC)

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<Enslaver>
ok, I see the issue.
01:02
So i'm confused, is the common/ltsp-common-functions supposed to be called ltsp-client-functions, ltsp-client-common-functions or ltsp-common-functions??
01:02
on the client
01:02
because i've seen it called all 3
01:08
<vagrantc>
ltsp-client-functions should source ltsp-client-common-functions
01:09
if i remember correctly.
01:09
essentially, common/ltsp-common-functions should get copied to ltsp-client-common-functions
01:10
Enslaver: see client/share/ltsp/ltsp-client-functions
01:11
<Enslaver>
ok thats what was confusing, so ltsp-common-functions should only exist on the client as ltsp-client-common-functions right?
01:12
<vagrantc>
mostly
01:12
<Enslaver>
ldm was doing a check, i suppose for backwards compatibility and sourcing both
01:12
<vagrantc>
it used to exist also as ltsp-common-functions, but we renamed it so that you can install ltsp-server and ltsp-client side-by-side.
01:12
without file conflicts
01:13
<Enslaver>
Why file conflicts? Do they both write to that file or take ownership if you run them like that?
01:14
<vagrantc>
at least on debian systems, packages that ship the same files cannot be installed.
01:14
it's an error at the package manager level ...
01:14
(it's a bit of a white lie, but basically is true)
01:16
we could have split it out as a separate ltsp-common package, but it would be a single file ... and would then require versioned dependencies and conflicts between all the various packages.
01:16
<Enslaver>
theres gotta be, what about all the tons of programs out there that read config files?
01:16
theres nothing like %config(noreplace) ?
01:17
<vagrantc>
i don't know what that is.
01:17
<Enslaver>
http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling
01:17
<vagrantc>
not exactly...
01:18
at any rate, getting into the nuances of debian packaging may not really be what you want to delve into? :P
01:19
<Enslaver>
I actually might have to
01:19
<vagrantc>
these aren't really conffiles or configuration files, they're more akin to libraries...
01:19
<Enslaver>
One of my ideas is a unified packaging system :)
01:20
yah i know what they are officially, but in rpm thats the way we get around conflicts is to call them config files :)
01:20
so it basically creates a filename.rpmnew file there in its place
01:21
<vagrantc>
there are ways to do that with dpkg-diversions, but they are generally discouraged if at all possible.
01:21
and it honestly seems cleaner to have ltsp-server and ltsp-client package ship their own copy of a single file...
01:22
anyways, gotta head out
01:22
<Enslaver>
b4 u do
01:22
ldm is still segfaulting, how is the best way to go about debugging that?
01:23
<vagrantc>
haven't really ever had to, honestly ...
01:23
<Enslaver>
theres no --debug thing like ltsp-build-client uses?
01:23
i just need to figure out what rc files its calling
01:23
<vagrantc>
there might be some sort of DEBUG variable to set, i remember from vague memory
01:24
tweak the files themselves to log output....
01:24
<Enslaver>
nm its not even making it that far
01:25* vagrantc waves
01:25
<vagrantc>
good luck
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<ltspuser_50>
hi
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<otwieracz>
Hello.
16:31
Can anybody explain how "ltsp-client" should work?
16:31
For example, I have laptop with Ubuntu and Gentoo-based LTSP server.
16:32
Can I somehow connect to my LTSP server from Ubuntu?
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