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Channel log from 17 November 2011   (all times are UTC)

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02:11
<sbalneav>
Evening all
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07:26
<alkisg>
stgraber: I wrote down the basic tasks that a windows port of epoptes-client would need, in case anyone's interested in implementing it: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation
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08:47
<Hooh9>
how to pass the tftp parameters to the kernel?
08:47
in /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd the path is somehow fixed
08:47
echo "get ${tftppath:-/ltsp/i386}/lts.conf" | /bin/tftp ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} >/dev/null 2>&1
08:48
<alkisg>
Hooh9: the path is sent by your dhcp server, it's produced by the boot filename
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08:48
<alkisg>
So your lts.conf needs to be in the same dir as vmlinuz
08:49
*as pxelinux.0
08:49
<Hooh9>
it is there, but never gets called
08:50
<alkisg>
Put your dhcpd.conf to pastebin
08:50
And your lts.conf
08:51
<Hooh9>
dhcp is done from windows
08:53
<alkisg>
OK, describe it then, what the windows dhcp server sends an on which cases
08:53
And paste your lts.conf
08:55
<Hooh9>
[Default]
08:55
XKBLAYOUT=de,us,it
08:55
NBD_SWAP=True
08:55
NFS_HOME=/export
08:55
SSH_FOLLOW_SYMLINKS=False
08:55
<alkisg>
!pastebin
08:55
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
08:55
<Hooh9>
TIMESERVER=85.18.189.242
08:55
RCFILE_01 = /etc/ltsp/ntpdate
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08:57
<Hooh9>
ok, sorry
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09:30
<muppis>
Wish me a luck. I'm about start building a ltsp based kvm cluster.
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09:31
<alkisg>
Hooh9: your lts.conf seems ok, but you didn't describe your windows dhcp server
09:32
The problem probably lies there. If you want, you can tell tftpd-hpa to be more verbose, so that you can see in the logs where it's trying to search for lts.conf
09:32
Probably you configured your dhcp server to only send a boot filename to pxeclients, and so it doesn't send it on the second udhcpc dhcp request, and finally the client searches for lts.conf in ltsp/i386/lts.conf
09:41
<muppis>
Is it possible install ltsp without GUI?
09:42
<alkisg>
I don't think there's a gui way to install ltsp
09:42
So yeah :)
09:42
<muppis>
:P
09:42
I meant, if I install ltsp-server, it installs ldm and so. I don't need them so I don't want them.
09:43
<alkisg>
ltsp-server doesn't install ldm
09:45
<muppis>
How about ldm server?
09:46
<alkisg>
ldm-server is not a GUI app, it runs from openbsd-inetd and reports the available sessions to clients
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10:06
<Hooh9>
@alkisg: PC boots via network using broadcast address, Win DHCP
10:06
provides IP and PXE server additional boot parameters
10:06
pxe-service=tag:ltsp,x86PC,"Linux",ltsp/amd64/pxelinux,10.7.20.21
10:07
/etc/dnsmasq.d/netboot.conf
10:08
<alkisg>
Hooh9: do you mean you're using dnsmasq in proxydhcp mode?
10:08
!proxydhcp
10:08
<ltsp>
alkisg: I do not know about 'proxydhcp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'proxy-dhcp'
10:08
<alkisg>
!proxy-dhcp
10:08
<ltsp>
alkisg: proxy-dhcp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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10:09
<alkisg>
If so, then that is the problem, that your windows dhcp server does not provide a boot filename, and your proxydhcp server only provides it to pxe clients, not to udhcpc
10:09
<Hooh9>
yes correct
10:09
<alkisg>
So your clients look for lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, even if they're amd64
10:10
<Hooh9>
true
10:10
<alkisg>
Ok so that's your solution ^
10:10
Or fix your windows dhcp server to send the boot filename
10:16
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, is there any point really in running an amd64 chroot, rather than i386, when you're using thin clients?
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10:17
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: I don't even run amd64 on servers, I use -pae kernels instead, so I'm not the correct person to ask this question :D
10:17
<Hyperbyte>
pae kernels?
10:17
<alkisg>
I heard some people saying that the amd64 kernel is about 1-2% faster
10:17
Pae kernels see up to 64 Gb RAM
10:17
So until I have systems with more than 64 Gb RAM, I don't really care about amd64 architecture...
10:18
Firefox doesn't even ship binaries for amd64, does it?
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10:18
<alkisg>
And flash just now started shipping the 64bit plugin, so...
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<alkisg>
Ah and another argument against amd64 is that you waste more power if you use that instead of i386 - at least that's what I heard, I never actually googled about a proper comparison
10:35
<Hyperbyte>
Firefox doesn't have amd64 binaries?
10:36
<alkisg>
From their site, afaik no. That tells me they don't think their code is 64bit ready yet
10:36
<Hyperbyte>
Heh!
10:36
That's nuts.
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<muppis>
Should ipappend=3 in pxelinux.cfg/default disable udhcpc at client?
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12:02
<muppis>
Ah. Incorrectly remembered. Fixing.
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16:11
<matrix3000>
ltsp-remoteapps epoptes isn't working
16:12
actually non of the ltsp-remoteapps commands are working
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17:00
<matrix3000>
lol
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17:07
<matrix3000>
how do i make myself as away
17:07
<alkisg>
Why do people use away and back messages at all?
17:08
<matrix3000>
lol
17:08
<alkisg>
I don't think the channel is so much interested to learn when they're away from their pcs...
17:08
<matrix3000>
hey alkis, found a problem
17:08
<alkisg>
What?
17:08
<matrix3000>
ltsp-remoteapps epoptes doesn't work on fat clients
17:08
<alkisg>
You mean that you didn't enable remoteapps in lts.conf and you're trying to blame epoptes for that? :P :D
17:09
<matrix3000>
no
17:09
how do i enable remoteapps in lts.conf
17:09
<alkisg>
Hehe, any error messages?
17:09
<matrix3000>
you need to document this crap
17:09
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
17:09
<ltsp>
alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
17:09
<matrix3000>
no
17:09
no errors
17:10
no way you guys updated it?
17:10
<alkisg>
If it's not documented there, file a bug against ltsp docs
17:10
<matrix3000>
yea its not in there
17:10
just like some other things but the fat client stuff should be in the next commit i believe
17:10
<alkisg>
Basically you set REMOTE_APPS=True in lts.conf
17:11
<matrix3000>
ok will do that
17:11
what code should i look at to find other options in lts.conf
17:11
maybe i can help with more documentation
17:11
<alkisg>
!ltsp-source
17:11
<ltsp>
alkisg: ltsp-source: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files
17:12
<matrix3000>
what file or is it a bunch of files that look at the lts.con
17:12
f
17:13
<alkisg>
A bunch of files
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<matrix3000>
ah ok im starting to understand
17:21
wish i could search
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17:23
<alkisg>
matrix3000: bzr branch lp:~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
17:23
grep -rw REMOTE_APPS *
17:23
And thus you can search :)
17:23
<matrix3000>
im on windows and looking at that in firefox haha
17:24
<alkisg>
You don't have ssh on windows?
17:24
<matrix3000>
wait how do i grep a site?
17:24
lol
17:24
gahhhh
17:24
<alkisg>
You ssh to a real pc, with linux
17:24
<matrix3000>
i hate not knowing stuff
17:24
ok, i did now what
17:24
<alkisg>
Then you use the power of the force... .err... bash
17:24
<matrix3000>
oh a real PC....
17:24
<alkisg>
The 2 commands you need are above
17:25
<matrix3000>
ah ok
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<matrix3000>
gotta install bzr
17:27
lol
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20:38
<matrix3000>
quiet day in here today
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<lifeboy>
I'm off to bed, it's 23:12 here. Bye!
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<markit>
when is quiet means or everything is ok, or everyone is too busy to fix problems to even have time to ask / reply here ;P
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